Trump’s Tweet is related to Minneapolis riots that have been underway for several days following the death of George Floyd.
Floyd was pinned down by a police office with a knee in Floyd’s neck. Most of the police-released videos are so redacted (video and audio) as to be useless.
Here is a video with clear audio.
Floyd is clearly complaining that he cannot breathe. He later died.
Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who killed George Floyd, has been arrested in Minneapolis, the Minnesota Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington announced.
Chauvin Charged with Murder
All of the surrounding officers are guilty as well for not acting.
Chauvin has a history of police brutality charges. Union rules do not allow getting rid of bad officers, bad teachers, bad anything, until something like this happens.
In the wake of the death of Floyd, riots began.
We’re Gonna Start Coming to The Suburbs
ZeroHedge reports
Minneapolis Rioter: “We’re Gonna Start Coming To The Suburbs”
Reader Anecdotes
Reader Tim who lives in the Twin Cities emailed some personal anecdotes this morning.
I was watching the local Twin Cities News starting at 9:00 pm last night.
Rioters burned down the Minneapolis 3rd precinct police station. Some nearby stores including a Napa auto store were set ablaze. The riot was taking place in real time and I stayed up watching the news until 2:00 AM.
The police and Fire department did not respond to any fires as protesters would throw projectiles at the fire fighters.
The riots have occurred for 3 days now. Governor Tim Walz called out the National Guard yesterday, but they were nowhere to be seen.
The riots have now moved to St. Paul where 170 businesses were vandalized. I would be livid if I was paying taxes for many years to have my business burned to the ground.
Who will pay for this damage? I bet insurance companies will try hard to avoid paying.
Meanwhile, Target has closed 24 metro stores until further notice.
When the Looting Starts the Shooting Starts
Note that Trump’s ‘Looting’ Remark Dates Back to Racial Unrest of the 1960s.
The first known use of the phrase came from Walter Headley, the Miami police chief, in December 1967, after he dispatched police officers carrying shotguns to patrol the center city during a wave of violent crime. Mr. Headley’s tough anti-crime tactics, including a stop-and-frisk policy and the use of dogs to patrol majority-black neighborhoods, had long been controversial in the city.
Mr. Headley repeated the phrase in August 1968 in response to riots in the predominantly black Liberty City neighborhood during the Republican National Convention, which was being held in Miami.
“This is war. We don’t mind being accused of police brutality. They haven’t seen anything yet,” said Headley.
Trump Defends His Tweets
Trump sent in the National Guard and supposedly this means Floyd will not have died in vain.
That’s one hell of a leap.
Fact or Statement?
Trump says he is citing facts, that “looting leads to shootings”.
One can make that case, and no doubt all of his rabid followers will do just that. One can also make the case that shooting leads to looting.
In this case, it’s clear that police brutality against Blacks resulted in looting and then shooting.
The pertinent fact: Trump’s statement was first made in 1967 and it has a proven history of escalating violence.
Negro Slum Hoodlums
When 20-year Miami Police Chief Walter Headley used the phrase, he was addressing his department’s “crackdown on Negro slum hoodlums.”
The phrase was considered to have contributed to the city’s race riots in the late 1960s.
Horribly Irresponsible
So facts aside, it was a horribly irresponsible thing for Trump to say. And it will backfire on Trump.
If Trump was making progress picking up Black votes, he just lost whatever he picked up and then some.
Mish
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Twitter and Facebook need to be abolished. They serve no useful purpose, they are simply a propaganda tool. Anyone who uses either platform is an idiot.
Mish,
Just checking back in on this one to see how you would respond. Guess I was right to leave your site. You have become a leftie nutjob.
To tie this back to a statement made by some guy in the 60 years ago so you could put a racist slant on it. Really!
I concur with hmk above. You have nothing to offer anyone with an IQ above 90.
It seems like blacks are always on the cutting edge of social change in this country. We now know how the poor are being effected by Trump’s policies of enriching the opulent at the expense of the rest of us, and it’s no longer a theoretical conversation among economists and statisticians. The lower classes are hurting and very angry. Nothing stops violence quicker than a satisfying, hot meal, with all the fixings. Food prices have gone through the roof with this pandemic. The cost of face masks are 10x what it was before the virus. There is rampant gouging going on. Trump doesn’t seem to care, because these price increases are inconsequential for the average millionaire.
“Trump doesn’t seem to care”
It’s not that he doesn’t care. Whether he does or not, doesn’t really matter.
Instead, it’s much more fundamental: He doesn’t understand. Doing so, is simply beyond his meager grasp of even basic economics, arithmetic and logic.
And ditto all and everyone he is surrounded by. Nominally liberal as well as conservative. In the nominally “private” as well as “public” “sectors.” Which is why they all advocate the same policies. The same bailouts, the same printing. All of them. From Trump to Obama to Buffet to Soros to AOC to even Olof “Devaluation” Palme. It’s not because they don’t “care.” It’s simply that they don’t understand. And that a system of financialization, specifically promote the kind of people whose common trait is a lack of ability to understand, to all positions of wealth, power and influence in both “public” and “private”, heck even academic, spheres.
If asked point blank, at least some of the more self-styled “economically edumecated” among them, may twiddle their Adam Smith ties and acknowledge that simply printing Washington’s head on paper pieces does not, in fact, create any new real wealth. Amazingly insightful, that is…….
Yet putting that together with the printing and bailouts making banksters, slumlords, and anyone rich enough to “own” a lot of “assets” wealthier; often by literally saving them from the alternative of going flat out bankrupt and losing all they have, is a logical leap too far for these economic, arithmetic and logical nothings to comprehend. It simply doesn’t sink in. Directly challenged, they may accede (as what else can they do…), but then it’s back to “but thiingz aaare diiiiferent thiiiz tiiime…” “In, liiiike, the reeeeeal woorld, liiike, iiiisn’t maaath”
But no. Logical “Things” are never different. Deductive logic doesn’t magically change with the winds nor fashions: If you do something which adds no new wealth, yet some (the “rich”) ends up with more wealth as a result of you doing it, than what they would have had if you didn’t: What must then, by arithmetic necessity, happen to the wealth of the non-”rich?” It ain’t hard. Or at least shouldn’t be.
Yet, quite obviously, it’s still beyond the grasp of Trump, Obama, Buffet and all the rest. (Not Krugman, though. He’s not that fundamentally unintelligent. He knows very well he’s spouting obvious fallacies from his pedestal. Instead, like his also very much not stupid idol Keynes, he is just gleefully abusing the authority afforded him by his previous achievements wrt fooling starstruck dumb people, into making them fall in line with his own a-priori ends justifying the means game. And, again like Keynes, he is no doubt rolling his eyes and chuckling to himself, every time he overhears one of them trying to appear edumecated to the even less so, by mindlessly regurgitating some mindless pap of his.)
Of course, neither Trump, nor Obama, nor even Palme, are/were on the side of those personally losing out from perpetuating the above fundamental fallacy. And neither are anyone in their immediate social nor professional circles. So, like all members of the motley bunch of undifferentiated retards who end up making up “the elite” in all financialized dystopias; going through life retarded has little immediate negative material effects for they themselves. You can’t really expect them to be too concerned about suddenly wising up and learning to count, when innumeracy has been so obviously good to them all these years.
So, instead, the impetus for reintroducing basic numeracy and literacy into governance, has to come from those who are not being made wealthier by the redistribution effected by the bailouts and the printing. Which is 90% of the population, at least. And growing. They are the ones whose indoctrination into pliant cluelessness, is necessary in order to keep the “system” of theft, from themselves, alive and self perpetuating. Once they, in any meaningful numbers, realize spending their entire life paying most of their earnings on a $500,000 mortgage in exchange for an, at best, $50,000 shack; solely in order to prop up the “wealth” of deadweights dependent on renting out their own $50,000 shacks for amounts usurious enough to maintain the illusion they are “worth” $500,000; they’ll grow up, wise up and bring the whole pyramid of rank theft crashing to the ground. But until then, they’ll just stand their pliant and bent over, working ever more for ever less, all in order to “save” some “system” comprised of nothing at all, whatsoever, beyond rank, crass theft for the exclusive benefit of a class of nothing but rank idiots.
I love how this blog has become a collection of assholes who have TDS. Fuck this I am out of hear. Yeah those assholes protesting are right to burn the city down. You people deserve each other go fuck yourselves.
” Yeah those assholes protesting are right to burn the city down”
They are not.
But there are degrees of not.
And they are MORE right, even to burns the world down, than some taxfeeding apparatchik is to kill even one of them.
A police force making some modicum of effort to help people protect their property from being burned down, is probably a nice feature. But “protecting property” takes a very distant second to “protecting life.” And until a police force manages to do the latter, that’s priority number one. And two. And even many, for members of the progressive indoctrinati who may be counting….. In the scheme of things, protecting life is the essential. The rest are, at best, just a bunch of nice-to-haves.
Fed counterfeits trillions every day without even a single protest, and this poor dude counterfeits 20 dollars and gets his neck snapped by the Gestapo!
In the City of God, St. Augustine tells the story:
Indeed, that was an apt and true reply which was given to Alexander the Great by a pirate who had been seized. For when that king had asked the man what he meant by keeping hostile possession of the sea, he answered with bold pride, “What do you mean by seizing the whole earth; because I do it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, while you who does it with a great fleet are styled emperor”.
That’s how those privileged by all totalitarian terror states, get to keep their privileges.
It’s not as if any of them are able to earn them on their own accord, in a free market where All Men are Equal, after all.
Trump is toast. Carrot top could be the opponent and would win.
Yeah, because “you ain’t black” has it in the bag.
You proved my point. The opponent doesnt matter. That’s how terrible a shape Trump is in. There is a rumor the GOP may drop a bomb at the convention and nominate another candidate for their party.
Hm…
Trump’s tweet gets flagged for “glorifying violence” yet this tweet from Colin Kapernick – posted within an hour of Trump’s, remains unadorned by the same label…
How did it get so out of hand in Minneapolis?
It all has to do with head of the police union, Kroll, who is an avid MAGAite–last rally in town he had Trump adoration t shirts printed up for the police to wear to the rally.
Its a really toxic mess under Kroll, and I would suspect there were lots of sub-rosa “just stand back and let it happen” in the police ranks. The is a lot of FU attitude in the police after the last few years of screwups and killings.
You will note that the police in St. Paul stood firm last night so why couldn’t Minneapolis?
A somewhat typical incident from a year or so ago….
….Along with the ornaments and strands of lights, two police officers in the 4th precinct of Minneapolis’ Police Department added some unusual items to their [public] lobby’s Christmas tree: A collection of street trash, including packs of Newport cigarettes, a crumpled bag of Takis chips, a cup from a Popeyes fried chicken outlet, a can of Steel Reserve malt liquor and some yellow crime scene tape. Critics say the items chosen play on negative stereotypes about African-Americans.
“These pieces of trash were deliberately chosen to represent how certain officers feel about the community they serve: that Black people are a stereotype to be mocked and the lives of those they serve may as well be reduced to trash in the gutter,” City Councilman Phillipe Cunningham said on Facebook.
Funny how I took Trump’s tweet as a description of something to be avoided. Sort of like it’s “glorifying violence” to say, “Tornadoes rip houses and people to shreds”.
Twitter’s flagging seems like the result of an unsupervised AI process. Well, “Time flies like an arrow.”
There’s something a bit more troubling about this, though. Why did Twitter people decide to flag violence? Is violence necessarily a bad thing? Well, staff your police force with pacifists and find out. Don’t forget to have a pacifist army, too. And, be near an expanding nation while you’re at it, just for fun.
So, flagging violence is at the least, a value statement, and at most, a political statement.
Let’s drop our Vietnam “War, what is it good for” tinted glasses and put on our religious-right glasses. Does Twitter flag un-Godly statements? Blasphemy?
Why, yes. Clearly they do … blasphemy to the religion that considers “glorifying violence” blasphemy. That particular religion’s current political alignment is irrelevant. Twitter, corporate, has apparently decided to warn everyone of that religion’s blasphemy.
I find the syntax of the last sentence unusual, to the point I cannot discern the meaning intended. On the one hand it would be more normal to say “the shootings start”, the way said instead seems to imply organised shooting…or he is using the pre-existing phrase as warning that looting is still met by armed response, the racist connotations not nescessarily his, possibly a “folk attribute” to the phrase, possibly he knew that the phrase carried those connotations… but to jump to the conclusion of glorifying violence, well in all honesty I don’t get that impression from his statement, I just don’t get that sense from it. Obviously others will understand it a different way, maybe will feel sure of the intent, maybe are just triggered to read anything that way. I don’t know, but I don’t think the meaning is clear enough to draw any firm conclusion from, so the only conclusion is that “Twitter” must have jumped to one. :/
I agree that Trump’s tweet will kill any support he was gaining in the black community. On the other hand, it didn’t need to be like this. Why did it take days to arrest the officer who murdered Floyd? Why haven’t they arrested the other three? If they had immediately arrested all four, we would not be here. Furthermore, if Trump had said “I have asked Federal agents to arrest the four officers”, his support among blacks would have gone up, not down.
When Trump has a can’t lose position, he can’t seem to stand it, so he always chooses some controversial position that costs votes and support.
It all has to do with head of the police union, Kroll, who is an avid MAGAite–last rally in town he had Trump adoration t shirts printed up for the police to wear to the rally.
Its a really toxic mess under Kroll, and I would suspect there were lots of sub-rosa “just stand back and let it happen” in the police ranks.
Trump against the World. He’s going back to his playbook. Doesn’t matter if the economy goes to hell though. If there’s a second lockdown, he’s pretty much toast.
I don’t think they can do another lockdown. People won’t comply, and Meal Team Six will throw another parade.
We’ll see what happens when health workers go on strike.
Having grown up 15 minutes from Kent State, I can attest that sending in the national guard worked well there.
I don’t know what’s worse, the policy makers intentionally training cops to be hyper-aggressive revenue generators who will inevitably alienate the public, or the actual cops who are too dumb to realize that’s their role in this game. Even putting the killings and civil asset forfeiture aside, anyone who wants to join the police after 49 glorious years of the War on Drugs must have a screw loose.
They still believe they’re gonna get that pension….
The State attracts a certain personality type. Disposed to violence, controlling, manipulative, bullying, cruel and cowardly.
Sadly, there is no shortage of such individuals who find a “socially-acceptable” outlet for their pathologies in service of the State.
I can understand attacking and burning the police station and see it in the range of decent human response into the blatant murder of Floyd.
I feel less sure about looting the Target and Cub grocery store across from the police station, in that these are the few moderately priced larger store in an area that could be defined as a “food desert”. There are many in that area who have lost access to the goods in those stores and will have to travel further to obtain them. There is social justice in having easily accessible and affordable sources for your food and other life goods. One of the more ridiculous images of the looting was a white “frat boy” type walking out the broken front door with a female manniken under his arm
I am entirely repelled by the burning of the other buildings–one was a block away from the station that held Nuevo Laredo, Ghandi Mahal and Town Talk–all restaurants owned by locals that had good food and good people that I have gone to many times over the years. And there are MANY of those destroyed businesses extending for miles from the police station and also in St Paul. Can you call yourself righteous walking away from a burning liquor store swigging on a bottle? Isn’t all of this another level of callous indifference to the effects of your actions on others?
And WTF is with targeting the Target stores in different locations around the city? A jewelry store near us was broken into by an Asian gang (video) last night, as well as nearby drugstores for opioids.
Make no mistake, the crowds of rioters and looters (not necessarily the same people) were very mixed in terms of race and ages. What has happened again and again– the worst effects of this destruction are in the neighborhoods that have the least.
So it is possible to have an entire range of feelings for the composite of what has happened.
But Trump is not helping.
Here’s video of when it turned from protest to riot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCmJ4ybZuk
I’m appalled by your opening statement! How do you justify destroying property as
” in the range of decent human response” If a relative of yours committed a heinous crime against someone in my family, would I be justified in burning down your house?
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How do you justify destroying property as
” in the range of decent human response”
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Ask those who decided to bomb Germany, Japan…..
IF, AND ONLY IF, there exist a just and efficient system of laws and enforcement, able to achieve just results with less third party collateral damage than resorting to violence; THEN the existence of such a system is perhaps a valid argument for going that route instead.
But if it’s not? Then a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do. Violent slave revolts, are ALWAYS preferable to a bucolic, calm and peaceful Antebellum cotton plantation, where everyone gratefully goes about performing their assigned job dutifully. All while respecting the poppeti massa “owns,” and doing their part to help “save the system.”
tRump, enemy of the people of the world, must be kicked out of Twitter, and kicked out of any public office
Thank You for your insightful input.
What an asshole comment your an idiot
The best thing that could happen to him is to get kicked off twitter. He could squeal about the unfairness, and a lot fewer of the stupid things he says would get disseminated.
Ergo if one believes Twitter has an anti-conservative mendacity, they left the tweets up for a reason, so they could lead to bigger self-inflicted wounds. Trump absolutely should want those tweets to go away.
Definitely agree. Twitter should give him enough rope.
Cops have killed plenty of poor people of all races with impunity…the problem is, and has always been, complete lack of control by elected officials who are cowed by police unions. Statements like this by POTUS are unhelpful, but turning this whole tragic incident into a race-baiting exercise by the MSM is just as shameful.