Riots that have been underway for four days now following the death of George Floyd. He was pinned down by a Minneapolis police officer with a knee in his neck. 
The WSJ reports Ex-Officer Derek Chauvin Charged With Murder in George Floyd’s Death
It’s ex-officer Chauvin because he was fired. The Hennepin County Attorney is investigating the other three officers involved. They stood by and did nothing.
Riots ensued in the wake of the death have since spread to other cities.
Yesterday I reported Protesters Attack CNN, Smash Cars in Atlanta and LA.
Things turned even uglier today.
College Football Hall of Fame
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1266571046620102657
Fires in Downtown Atlanta
https://twitter.com/kieroncg/status/1266569024491716609
Shoot the F…
https://twitter.com/jxnchurik/status/1266629451967688706
Secret Service Outside the White House
New York Police Officers Protect Barclays Center
NYPD Van on Fire
15 Cities
https://twitter.com/TerriGreenUSA/status/1266507998173765633
New York Officer Forcibly Shoves Woman to the Ground
https://twitter.com/MayaMedia7/status/1266554668328513538
A New York Police officer shoved a woman to the ground and called he a “Stupid Fng B“. she ended up in the hospital.
It is unclear whether the woman was backing away from the officer or moving towards him.
But in the wake of four days of rioting over clear excessive use of force in the death of George Floyd, there is no excuse for this kind of response.
Officer Allegedly Identified
Pathetic Responses
https://twitter.com/johnsmithfield6/status/1266658063173537792
There is plenty of support for the officer on Twitter. One person called the woman shoved to the ground “a thug”.
Good grief.
The police officer’s actions and the support for it will further escalate tensions.
Perhaps that’s what some want.
Trump Threatens Action
Is that supposed to help or is it supposed to incite further violence?
Killer Mike Speech
I encourage you to play that video, all 8 minutes.
Good Message Bad Shirt
I was almost in tears over some of this, especially the insensitivity of the NYPD officer in one of the videos.
Killer Mike’s message is correct. His shirt is not. “Kill Your Masters” incites the very violence he rails against.
Everyone needs to walk this back.
Mish
Great video
https://www.bloglovin.com/blogs/infomercantilinfo-20775809
Gee Mish, I really do not know why you be appalled? This is exactly the result any conservative would expect as the result of liberal policies. Liberalism has directly caused all the problems we now see in these ravaged cities.
In the final analysis we need the thin blue line. Blue Lives Matter. The tyranny of the minorities, including illegal aliens supported by corrupt politicians, have created an America almost unrecognizable.
This must stop or it will lead to civil war.
The Police are out of control. They are nothing more than criminals with badges. They need to be brought under control of the American people. As our forefathers said, when the government fear the people, you have freedom, when the people fear the government, you have TYRANNY!
I’d never heard Killer Mike, found this: “They boots was on our head” – in song “Reagan” 2012
Mish, thanks for recommending the Killer Mike speech, very reasonable and passionate. Too bad we have a president who can’t provide half as much leadership! We are seeing the real cost of having a demagogue in the White House. It’s been fun to see Trump slap the libtards and lifer politicians around as they deserve, but here we are in real crises (3 or 4 multiplied, I lost count) and all we can count on from our president is an endless stream of toxicity and unreason as he is more than willing to burn it all down to get re-elected.
This is a really ignorant comment. Trump as a business person as opposed to corrupt politicians and “community organizers” has a more accurate perception of current macro trends and tendencies.
Things work until they do not. Based on complaints and beliefs, not all accurate, a large number of citizens feel they are no participating in the “American Dream” and are free to steal from those who have worked, sacrificed, saved an built a moderately comfortable life. I think the phrase, “Ask what you can do for your country not what your country can do for you” uttered by a creation of the New York Times is a bit trite, but bears a small grain of truth. Maybe Americans need to pay less time in malls and more in libraries.
So liberals lay the groundwork for the chaos and destruction, and then blame someone who had nothing to do with it, for not being able to stop it.
This is the kind of feeble minded, dishonest, reasoning that make liberals held in such contempt.
Only confirms that ignorance runs deep@Realist
The FED is the greater increaser of inequality, injustice and violence in this country….dig deeper you
ll see that whats happening is not about black violence and looting vs white or brown but in reality this is about legalized looting and violence by the FED sponsored elite: corporations, banks and well connected against the bottom 90% of the society…this division will only get worse from here….The action of the stock market over the past couple months has simply been the small minority of Americans who control the vast majority of the wealth and own the vast majority of the stocks, laughing hysterically at the vast majority of Americans on the other side of the inequality.
The elite know that the, I mean, their Fed will keep stealing the value of money from that vast majority and dumping it right into their own pockets via the market. It’s great to have an all-powerful Reverse-Robin-Hood doing your every bidding, reacting to your every tantrum, unauditable, irresponsible … I was going to add uncontrollable but their Fed is firmly under their control.
How many on this board have not happily benefited by their Fed’s thievery … even while railing against it?
On rare occasion, the vast majority of Americans might get tired of being laughed at, tired of being robbed.
Great video from Killer Mike. He’s very eloquent and on point. I love that he encourages voting and completing your census form. Be heard and be counted. The census is worth on average $15,000 in Federal funding per person but can be worth up to $20,000 per person (over 10 years) for schools, roads, health care, housing and more. For instance, the covid stimulus money is distributed using the census. If every American voted, the Republican party would be upended. I’ve been working on voter registration every week for more than a year – and my impact is nothing compared to a few sentences from influencers like Killer Mike or Taylor Swift.
I don’t support Trump nor “the wall.” But I also won’t take lectures on tolerance from snug denizens of a deeply racist neighbor who overwhelmingly re-elected a Prime Minister who is a fan of dressing up in blackface.
When this situation is over, the US will come back stronger than ever. But Canada will still be Canada — a country that has only ever won participation trophies.
Killer Mike name or pseudo-name, T-Shirt caption, word choice and passion are inflaming, IMO.
What would we say if we turned the table. That’s have a large vocal white male named and dressed similarly, speaking similarly about his perspective of the world. Let’s say “Killer John”, with a T-shirt with inflaming caption, speaking with passion and anger, etc.
My take is that too many officials and influencers are capitalizing and surfing the situation rather than calming it down.
“Kill Your Masters”
Unfortunately, our system is irreparably corrupt. The government no longer serves the people, it only serves its corporate masters. It does it by both threat of, and by actual force against its citizens. Force is unfortunately all governments and the corporations who control them understand.
The American people are no longer free or prosperous. Their freedom has been stolen by a corrupt government and their prosperity stolen by the socialism known as Wall St. The government and the corporations will not give up what they have stolen without a fight. That is the simple truth. When the masters of Wall St. run for their lives, only to find their private jets burning at the airport, that will be the day you see change.
Right now the two groups I detest most are fighting each other, Government vs. liberals. With a little luck, they will substantially diminish each other…
I suspect this is about more than George Floyd. I suspect this is three years of pent up hatred incited mostly by “the resistance” and “not my president.” The Democrats have been trying to discredit authority of governance since November of 2016, and the violence spreading across the nation suggests to me that they have succeeded.
Obama started this mess. He made race relations WORSE when he criticized the police and saying Trayvon Martin is his child. I have spoke to other folks and they say the same.
Come on now. I remember a noticeable increase of intentional political hostility back in the ’90s, along with the whole idea that we can’t reason with each other. The divide and conquer tactic has been used adeptly by both parties for a long time, hence our current mess and lack of political solutions.
Do you think this would be so bad without masks and 3 months of lockdown? Anxiety was high to begin with.
Unprecedented social experiment…unintended consequences.
Masks? Really? It was masks that did this? Lockdown made everyone edgy and the masks just pushed everyone over the edge?
You should try to get your obviously HUUUGE amount of research published. I’m sure it will be well received.
Sorry Mish, which part pf America are you calling “Ugly”?
“Riots ensued in the wake of the death have since spread to other cities.”
In case you haven’t heard, its not the “death” that started the protests, its the “murder” in plain daylight by yet another “rogue” white officer, captured on video.
And why do you call these protests “riots” while those burning and looting in HK you call anti-Beijing protests?
And while the protests were spreading nationwide, that dynamic duo which you call your government, Pompeo/Trump, together with your vassals UK and Australia and also the EU and whole western MSM were lecturing HK police against the use of force when all they fired were pepper at the HK rioters (that is the term you applied although specifically only to the black protesters) . So why is your government justified in shooting life bullets at black protesters while the police of HK are not allowed to shoot pepper? Either both groups are rioters and deserve to be shot, or both are not.
One of the interesting things to observe is how commies are excited about this rampant lawlessness. It makes me wonder how much of a hand they’ve got in it.
Obviously, the NYPD doesn’t report to the “state” that focuses on human rights abuses in Venezuela, China, and Iran… but a lot of useful idiots on the fringes love to try and blur the issue and hope their audiences are stupid enough to fall for it (and they often are).
Mish,
What liability did Rahm Emanual have when he hid the police tape in Chicago a few years ago? No personal liability whatsoever, nobody burned his house, his car, didnt go to prison for obstruction of justice or anything else. He sleeps well, out of state, with private guards paid for by the City of Chicago.
Same goes for the idiot mayor of Minneapolis. He has no personal problems at all out of this. Here is his illustrious background:
He made sure this thing would blow up.
You will see tomorrow that Philadelphia has been added to that list of riot-torn cities shown in Mish’s post … some similarities … peaceful protests for several hours, then an influx of “newcomers” and then rioting and looting and fire-bombing are soon underway.
The young people have every right to be mad as hell at the crappy situation they are being left with. College loans, crap jobs, government debt to pay for Viking River Cruises for baby boomers. Its sad but totally unsurprising.
They most certainly do have every right to.
Now, all they need is to grow enough brains, to refuse to pay even a single penny of any of it. For any reason, and regardless of any possible drummed up hogoblinesque supposed “consequence” the leeches wishing to leech off them keep blathering about. Just get it into their indoctrinated-from-the-crib little minds, that there is not one single facet of even the tiniest sliver of “The System”, which is, in any way whatsoever, worth preserving even the tiniest trace of. And that the sooner it is all gone, collapsed, blown up, burned down, turned into a smoking crater and forgotten like the shameful blot on human history which is all it is, the better. Without a single exception in any way at all.
It doesn’t even strictly matter if they are still nominally out voted for a few more years by geezers on Fed welfare living it up on cruise ships. Since if they are all credibly and fully committed to never pay, every potential creditor would realize that those guys are near all the future voters of America. And would act accordingly.
You sound bitter
In the present situation, many of them won’t be paying a penny because they don’t have a penny to pay.
That’s when things get interesting.
“In the present situation, many of them won’t be paying a penny because they don’t have a penny to pay.”
And neither is there any reason why they should pay any of the few pennies they may at some point have.
Biggest issue is, a chunk of that debt, did help fund the effort to indoctrinate them into believing the obvious-to-anyone-literate fallacy that there is even a trace of “The System” which is worth preserving.
Which there, of course, isn’t. And the quicker they grow up and figure that out, the better off they, and America, will be. Return on investment simply don’t get greater than saving yourself $30 Trillion with the bat of an eye and a raised middle finger. It’s not an opportunity anyone, no matter how indoctrinated-from-birth into pliant subservience, should be too dumb to pass up.
“The System” is the result of centuries of organic collaboration between all classes of peoples in quite a few different political setups – feudal, mercantilist, industrial, socialist, etc. They further combine the contributions of good and bad actors in the mix.
There is no population that doesn’t have such a mix. Every population has a very intelligent, driven minority that tends towards parasitism – sucking the lifeblood out of the many for the benefit of the few. Every society has higher aspirations – religious/spiritual/artistic/peace-and-plenty and so forth.
Anarchism is simply the intention to blow the whole rotten thing up and start over. But start over with what? Are you also going to blow up private property, including the house your parents worked decades to own and brought you up in? Are you going to blow up the family as cornerstone societal institution? Faith? Money as medium of exchange? Political system? The list goes on.
Blowing things up is dramatic but extremely disrespectful of the work and heart that have gone into generations of building the current society which we have, warts and all. Rather we should keep pruning back on corruption – which always sprouts up like weeds in any garden – and fostering what is good. And there is always much that is good. It starts with the love children and parents have for each other, with pride in work, family, community. These are so-called ‘conservative’ values but really they are just human values.
The issue is corruption, which also inevitably happens. Indeed, one can argue that the main – perhaps the only important – role of any government or leadership setup is to protect the rights of the governed so that they are not abused by tyrants or corrupt laws or officials. The ‘system’ has to have a way to correct when inevitable corruption quotient gets too strong.
That is where the developed world is at now. There are no doubt lots of theories one could drill into, but generally speaking the commercial sectors have overtaken the others to the point that things are out of joint. Money has infested all societal elements so much that most of them aren’t holding together well any more, whilst also fostering over-centralisation of laws, financing, governance, media and so forth with corrupt gaming of the system by ‘special interests’ skewing things in unfortunate, essentially dishonest, ways. At the same time, the over-emphasis on the commercial has degraded the value we place on honesty, familial love and duty, reverence for the sacred, including nature, and much more.
The solution is to cut back on what has become excessive and return to basics, to what is basically good, ordinary, sane, decent. It can be done.
Just blowing everything up is rarely the right approach. Usually what comes in to fill the vacuum are the same bad actors who were behind the destruction. They promise utopia but deliver hell. Millions die. This has happened many times just in the past two or three hundred years. Each of us thinks it couldn’t happen to us or to me, but that’s what all those lost millions thought too.
In short: you should be careful what you wish for.
The current “System” is the result of a central bank, as well as a government also in other ways no longer sticking to a government limited the way the Founders spelled it out in the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Without those transgressions, there would be very little national debt to pay for anyone. Nor much in the way of ability to pay any of it. Try servicing $30 Trillion in debt, with Gold at $20/oz, no income taxes, no money printing, and a population properly armed to protect their Gold….
As for destroying property: Far and away most people’s property have either been destroyed, or stolen, by The Fed and government, aka “The System,” already. Burring down a grocery store, or a few cars, while hardly the “right” thing to do in a vacuum, pales into utter insignificance, compared to several Trillion dollars of Fed, as in “System,” mediated crass theft over the past few months alone. On top of the untold trillions already stolen by the same mechanisms over the past century.
As Bastiat pointed out, it’s the “Unseen” that needs to be focused on. Any old idiot can see, and get all hot and bothered watching TV footage of, the burning of a store ruining a lifetime of work (rarely anymore in the era of rank idiots on Fed welfare having been handed “Private Equity” to take ownership of it all, but perhaps still in some isolated cases if you search them out dilligently…).
But what about the unseen? The life’s work of all those who have nothing to show for it. No house, no store, no car, no nothing. Despite also having worked every day… Difference being, they had their income stolen, again by the same “System.” All in order to hand unearned riches to the gaggle of useless leeches who “The System” exists solely in order to redistribute everything to.
Without government restricting building of residential and commercial property, all in order to facilitate already-haves pulling ladders up and living off of unearned usury, how many of those current own-nothing guys would own their own places, both business and residence, even outright? It’s not as if slapping up some walls and a roof, is that expensive…
And without income taxes, and without free-for-all ability of ambulance chasers to shake everyone down, how many more companies would be viable in America? From paying no income taxes, no “liability insurance”, no costly personnel just to navigate court abetted shakedowns, a fraction of current rents, employees paying no income taxes and lower rent hence needing less wages etc., etc…. And all of those companies would then be bidding for labor….
That’s the property theft and destruction which matters in aggregate. Not some dude smashing a window and grabbing a beer. And it’s not as if this “System” facilitated theft is any less crass, nor any less destructive, than the smash-and-grab variety. The only difference is, the latter is easier to capture on TV cameras. And is often performed by people further from the junta and their privileged free shit army of self righteous sycophantic hangers-on.
Now, if all those guys had not had their property “stolen,” hence effectively from their POV destroyed, perhaps they would also have some incentive to not burn everything down. But stolen it was. So they, instead, have nothing. No amount of burning will ever harm their stuff, since their stuff was stolen, destroyed and, as far as they are concerned burned, already. By, exactly, yes as always, “The System.”
Like I said, commerce has become too dominant in the current ‘system.’ But I include ordinary people (and their ancestors) in what we have today. Society is more than the system of governance. This is not just a semantic difference. I deliberately include ordinary people in my use of the word ‘system’ because leaders and followers, governed and government etc. are always a mutual and interconnected dynamic. Sure, you can analyse the system intellectually in discrete areas – the intellect can always make categories and play around with them in no end of ways, but it doesn’t change the reality: ultimately we are dealing with people, living human beings.
And if you try to blow up ‘the system’ to create a utopia free of all the many problems the current system has, usually – precisely BECAUSE it is interconnected with ordinary peoples’ family, cultural and economic lives – millions suffer and die.
What’s happening now is still on the level of staged outrage, rather serious theatre. But if the food supply starts failing and there’s a financial panic, well the stage is now set for truly horrendous anarchy. Which is what many are pushing for. And if they get it, make no mistake: along with your corrupt system collapsing and finally being replaced,
a) millions may well die early and/or suffer greatly in the process, including yourself
b) the new system will almost certainly be worse than what we have now, given its foundation will have been heartless anarchy.
Ends never justify means; rather ends are determined by means. Nasty, deceptive means lead to nasty, deceptive ends. Simple as that.
“precisely BECAUSE it is interconnected with ordinary peoples’ family, cultural and economic lives – millions suffer and die.”
All “systems,” by the very virtue of being “The System” in the first place, is interconnected with ordinary people’s lives. The Antebellum “System” was one such. Ditto Nazi Germany. And the Soviet Union.
But while millions may well have suffered and died as a result of their somewhat rough and tumble breakups, many more millions were spared that faith, from them being busted up. All change is difficult. Freedom isn’t free…. Etc., etc.
No matter what “System” happens to currently be in place, far and away most people will seek to arrange their lives to maximize their own utility under it. Hence, over time, most people will be, at least to some extent, dependent on it. Hence, it will always and everywhere be entirely tautological, that millions of lives will be negatively affected by a “System” breakup. Any System breakup whatsoever. Which is exactly never any argument at all, for simply continuing on endlessly with the slavery, Jew gassing and nigga-choking and crass theft which “The System” depends on for it’s continued existence.
Younger people who are not succeeding have themselves to blame. The only gripe they have with the boomers is that they were handed everything without ever having to work for it.
The image of a cavalier police officer with his knee on the neck of a handcuffed man that later died have brought people to the streets in protest of police brutality. Abuse, violence, and unnecessary force is not used only on blacks and other minorities but is also employed on whites.
The expansion of the NSA and the militarization of police forces across America reeks of a growing Orwellian police state that should concern us all. Ironically this comes at a time many laws go unenforced. More on this subject in the article below.
“that later died”
Where do you get that? Looks like he died right there while underneath the 3 cops.
See my link from bellingcat in the community section if you want to understand who boogaloo really is.
“Is that supposed to help or is it supposed to incite further violence? “
The National Guard was sent in during the Rodney King riot in L.A. That put a stop to the rioting.
As always, as more time has passed, more facts have emerged. I’ll say this up front, but I won’t be a bit surprised if mob mentality commentators say I’m excusing the cops’ behavior. I’m not. What he did to a handcuffed prisoner who was not resisting (and that’s key) is contrary to law enforcement agency policy nationwide.
That said, charging people with crimes is easy. But yesterday, convicting the cop of murder got significantly more difficult.
Information from Hennepin County’s Medical Examiner, in an attachment to the criminal complaint against officer Derek Chauvin, said this:
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26, 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings. The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.
In addition, the complaint’s Statement of Probable Cause notes Floyd complained of being unable to breathe before Officer Chauvin put his knee on Floyd’s neck: “While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe.”
Once circulation gets cut off you can have a heart attack. That’s exactly what happen in this case. What you are saying isn’t actually the cause of death which is strangulation. Please note my wife is a doctor and said the autopsy would show heart attack but the true cause of of that is strangulation. The heart attack happen because of the strangulation.
A related cause is certainly a strong possibility, thanks for that insight. It’ll be interesting to see how the case progresses.
As to a couple other points, as expected, the credibility of every agency associated with the case is now in question.
That coroner’s “statement” is propaganda. “Potential intoxicants?” Lol. Floyd could have just as easily been killed by “a potential meteorite.”
Casually suggesting that Floyd was intoxicated without proof is unprofessional in the extreme and reeks of cronyism within the coroner’s office.
The whole statement from the coroner felt like a cover-up. Like they didn’t get the message that the city was already burning and were doing their part to continue the paper trail that the initial arrest filing started — that he was intoxicated, dangerous and resisting. None of which appears to be in obvious evidence on any of the recordings (and there are multiple recordings now). Was he intoxicated? Maybe, but it doesn’t look like he was that impaired and no recording so far shows what I would term resisting. Not complete evidence, I know, but enough to start drawing conclusions about how much to believe the initial filing.
That’s a good explanation. I would demand an investigation of the coroner if I were Floyd’s kin.
When Tyler Skaggs, MLB pitcher for the Angels, was found dead in Texas, the authorities would not comment on the cause of death until the tox screen was complete. Took months to learn he OD’d.
The double standard is breathtaking.
“Potential intoxicants.” They’re the new “alternative facts.”
Apparently, the Minneapolis old boy network wants people to believe that it’s implausible that applying the full body weight of one’s knee to the throat of a man for nine minutes won’t lead to asphyxia.
The family should demand an autopsy from an independent source, and failing that, independent oversight of the autopsy as it is conducted.
Death of Geoege Floyd ? Seriously Mish ? It was the MURDER of George Floyd by a policeman and 3 accomplices who were also policeman.
There is going to be some rioting, like before, and then the dust will settle. Less than 1% of the taxpayers will stop paying. The USA will still do what the elite wants it to do: stay in power, have a lavish life style, have the strongest military in the world, keep Israel on top. So… why would the elite worry at all? Especially if the whole riot thing can be turned in some black-white thing that keeps the masses occupied.
Strongest military? We can’t even beat people wearing sandals with no airforce.
Our military is a has been. Thank God we still have thousands of nuclear warheads.
“We can’t even beat people wearing sandals with no airforce.”
And not just at military matters. But rather at anything at all.
Heck, “we” can’t even make our feeble attempts at rioting against a thuggish totalitarian occupation force, even a fraction as consequential as those guys have been doing on a near daily basis for decades upon decades…
There are benefits to be had from being a free, and properly armed, populace, it would seem….. Such people are most definitely a lot harder to keep pliantly bent over, while helplessly awaiting some tax feeder putting his knee on their necks for fun and profit.
Though Democritus is a lovely name, Zeno would be even better, given the essence of your post.
Most of this stuff is organized agit-prop. If we had a real FBI, they would have been all over antifa for some time now and have already busted up the ringleaders and funding sources.
But we don’t. Hard to blame Trump for this since the FBI just spent 3 years trying to put him away, even colluding with foreigners to do so. But no doubt most will.
But this is NOT about the death of that man; it’s not about racism and all that stuff. This is about bringing the country into a state of chaos, partly to keep various political revelations from getting too much attention, but mainly to make things so painful that the country will vote Trump out in the hope that finally all this hatred and aggression will cease.
It would if that’s how it plays out. But so will any semblance of a bona fide Republic as well. However, this sort of thing is a clear sign of desperation; chances are they are about to lose and lose big. Indeed, the Dems might have just lost another 10% of the black vote with this heartless, dangerous BS put on by their more secretive, radical grandees.
In any case, this is mainly manipulated (like the overblown Covid response). Best not to get caught up in the hysterics and let’s hope higher authorities (like NG, Feds) can re-establish law and order soon, especially in those jurisdictions where the local authorities seem determined to inflame things by standing down, blaming it all on ‘white supremacists’ and so forth.
I suspect a large number of these rioters are alt-right provocateurs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re also working with foreign intelligence services.
Violent protestors in Minneapolis came from as far afield as Alaska, and many were members of the Proud Boys alt-right group. Trying to start their stupid “race war” fantasy.
Wow, are those “facts” Jack? I guess not, huh. I mean, everyone knows leftists are peace loving do-gooders, right? Just ignore the little exceptions like Mao’s China, the old USSR and Germany under National Socialism.
Clearly most of them are Antifa.
So who funds them and helps them organize?
Maybe it’s alt-righters (keyboard warriors most of them btw, and there aren’t many anyway), but maybe it’s alt-lefters. And maybe the many reports of Soros groups funding them are on the right track.
Generally, those on the right are for tradition, loyalty, stability. They get co-opted by those taking advantage and you end up with a top-heavy, stodgy, narrow-minded situation larded with tons of finance/influence corruption. Straightforward.
Generally, those on the left are for destroying the status quo, ‘the system,’ and replacing it with some sort of utopia, which is usually idea and feel-good concept laden fantasy and usually results in widespread mayhem, slaughter, poverty and death. After that, you get order, but usually it’s a big step back. Look at France, Russia, China as three large, obvious examples. Millions upon millions paid the ultimate price for these utopian-laden left-inspired revolutions.
The alt-right is mainly a left wing invention. Quite effective.
Hopefully the AG is not making idle threats and will begin to roll back the Antifa networks, expose who is funding and organising them, give as many as possible maximum jail terms and end this nonsense. There will be a political price to pay if it is revealed that senior Dem politicians have been aiding and abetting those mounting these riots, as seems quite likely if you follow how some of them have been funding lawyers to represent rioters arrested, their children egging them on etc. Really nasty bunch.
This from Trump:
“The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.”
So AG Barr’s threat not idle.
Good.
Now we’ll see.
Comey is rumoured to have been involved in many of those antifa groups (also islamic terrorist groups too). In theory infiltrating but his detractors say he was actually mounting them for false flag purposes. Who knows? In any case, will be interesting to see if Antifa finally gets stopped. There is no justification for running around in masks, throwing bricks and concrete-filled soda cans at people and business windows, burning cars, destroying businesses and so forth, let alone inciting and/or paying others to do the same. This is criminal behaviour 101 and should be quashed rapidly, no ifs, ands or buts.
The only difference between a cop and a soldier in America is that the later lives in a barrack.
Same violence. Different housing.
One could certainly understand that, from the perspective of African-Americans, police in America are an occupying army. This is an uprising against that occupier, no different from Palestinians rising against Israelis.
The cops are all ex solders who have just changed their enemy to the American Citizens.
This is a Democrat-controlled city with a Democrat-controlled state. Minnesota has voted Democratic in every Presidential election for the last 40 years. IMHO, the Democrats have had ample opportunity to fix their racism problems.
To misquote Einstein, “Insanity is voting Democrat, over and over again, but expecting different results.”
Not sure if you noticed, but every major US city is burning now.
His reply would be: “they are all Blue cities”.
Barrack Obama is not a saint, but he made an observation that there’s not a lot of differences between the Democratic and Republican parties.
And he was and is still right. Both only respect money and power. Only idiots think that one is better than the other.
Obama said and did a lot of things the media never questioned.
In the same vein, we have all sorts of problems that government of either party have been unable to solve, and usually make worse. Covid-19 is a prime example of limited minds trying to deal with complex problems under uncertainty. It may be that government is not the solution, that we need to restructure society and its operation, even how we think.
And most major cities are run by Democrats.
Every city has riots, but all the rioters were bussed in from other cities, and paid by George Soros. People honestly believe this.
Looks like the red/blue game is alive and well if this dumb post gets likes. If you want to know how we got into this mess, look in a mirror.
Exactly right. The morons always rush to say “Ah HA! Tweedledum Party is behind it, my Tweedledee Party is the best!” Zero sense of self-awareness.
Cities may have Democratic administrations, but I’ll bet dollars to donuts that EVERY police UNION chief is MAGA. And there is a huge part of the problem.
The 600 pound gorilla that no one’s talking about is “qualified immunity”. For those unfamiliar with this doctrine, here is a snippet from theappeal.org:
“The Supreme Court invented qualified immunity in 1967, describing it as a modest exception for public officials who had acted in “good faith” and believed that their conduct was authorized by law. Fifteen years later, in Harlow v. Fitzgerald, the Court drastically expanded the defense. The protection afforded to public officials would no longer turn on whether the official acted in “good faith.” Instead, even officials who violate peoples’ rights maliciously will be immune unless the victim can show that his or her right was “clearly established.” Since the Harlow decision, the Court has made it exceedingly difficult for victims to satisfy this standard. To show that the law is “clearly established,” the Court has said, a victim must point to a previously decided case that involves the same “specific context” and “particular conduct.” Unless the victim can point to a judicial decision that happened to involve the same context and conduct, the officer will be shielded from liability.”
Last year I – a 67 year old White physician with no priors – was incarcerated overnight after police filed a false report. It cost me $15,000 to get the charges dropped. Even though body cam video clearly showed they lied on my arrest report my attorney said the qualified immunity doctrine would protect them.
The qualified immunity doctrine is a get out of jail free card for the cops. It gives them a sense of being not only above the law, but BEING the law.
Secondly, many police are former military. Military training is very different from civilian law enforcement training. It’s more oriented toward lethal force.
Third, most of us don’t have a dog in this fight. We have neighbors, friends, relatives, and co-workers of a variety of races, colors, and creeds. Most of us just want to be left alone to live our lives.
No matter what color the victim was, we are all reminded that once the cops think you’re guilty, you’re screwed, and you will be treated like dirt. As mentioned above, I was incarcerated. I was the oldest inmate and one of two White detainees. I was treated better by the Blacks and Hispanics than by the a-hole cops.
Time to pull their feet to the fire and show the cops actions have consequences. Kill qualified immunity and let the lawsuits roll in. Politicians may not respect rights but they respect liability for lawsuits.
“Police” is Greek for “state.”
All you need to know.
Interesting, another piece of the puzzle that needs policy review and modification
I hear people say often that most police are good, that there are only a few bad apples. It depends on how you define ‘good cop’. To me, a ‘good cop’ is someone who takes action to stop a bad cop. By that definition, it feels like there aren’t many good cops out there.
I hear people say most protesters are good, that there are only a few bad apples. If all the cops get blamed for the actions of a few, then all the protesters get blamed for the actions of a few bad apples too. Personally, I think most protesters are good and most police are good.
Biden needs to control his people!
Biden needs to control his people!
Make sure you cover how cops are being agent provocateurs in this whole mess. They caught the cop busting autozone windows, max blumenthal caught cops going in dressed as rioters posing as media and there’s footage of a palate of bricks just placed in Dallas out of nowhere ! Shits wrong on both sides-protestors and cops!!
Source that proves that was a cop please. And please don’t send me that fake text exchange from his “ex wife” – I mean actual proof.
The guy matches the description of people seen at nearly every one of these protests – black clothes, gas mask, hammer, backpack, radio…
I would like to figure out who they really are without bullshit disinfo or listening to politicians lie because it helps them politically…
The casseurs, black bloc, anti-system, antifa
is also likely infiltrated or used by others to own purpose. Anarchists generally are not part of that funnily enough, they don’t believe in that sort of order because they live no “archy” by example, but sure there are those who want to create anarchy and so use the anarchy label or have it applied to them.
What or who is behind is never clear, in Europe this goes on the same, for example now you have the casseurs appearing alongside the yellow vests, many yellow vests saying ruining the nature of the protest. To now no one has been able to pin an authority behind, could be government or part of , could be political, could be hard line anti-system etc., maybe just nebulously organised people of that disposition handled by whoever.
True anarchists are nonviolent. The use of violence is prima facie statist, the defining characteristic of a statist.
That is my understanding also, though there are obviously those who will argue this. Somewhere the term anarchy, which traditionally means to be outside of hierarchy or its organisation, became used to actually describe creating anarchy. “Traditional” anarchists don’t need to do this, because they just don’t recognise hierarchy, and those I have met like this are completely non-violent because they equally respect the next individual, in that they don’t see themselves as superior either . That does not make them socialists or communists either, but you can see how that base idea of anarchy has then been merged into those political concepts by some.
Oh yes! The nature of politics is to distort true meanings to serve political ends. No one is more dangerous to the statist than the anarchist. It is the equivalent of religious apostasy. Thus, the statist denies his own violence and falsely projects it onto the nonviolent anarchist, all to be in control.
Independent analysis of “Umbrella Man and Pizza Guy” – pretty thorough.
This has been building for a long time. We’re a nation that craves simplistic answers to complex questions and are averse to addressing any real problems. We’d much rather kick the can and make the printer go brrrr if possible.
When you combine a terminal decline in economic prosperity with decades of divide and conquer propaganda, this is the result. Somebody commented recently that they figured a crisis like Covid-19 would unite the country, but it’s done the opposite. People have been spoiling for a fight and with bad news rolling in all the time, they will have plenty of opportunities to lash out. If anything, it’s surprising that we didn’t unravel sooner.
Edit: To address Mish’s last point about people needing to walk this back, that seems extremely unlikely. We’ve all been trained to never back down from our critics and Trump is the latest example of this. Talk big, talk loud, never admit error, and never apologize for anything. It’s the new American way!
Everybody’s right there to scream about how it’s somebody else’s fault. As a country, we have no self awareness, no empathy, no intelligence, and no honesty. Might as well rename us to The United States of Trump.
2011 Arab spring shifting from the middle east to the US in 2020?
The chaos in Oakland seems premeditated. https://twitter.com/AsiaJannelll/status/1266626927885873152
Also in past demos, Oakland Chinatown was spared, but not this time around. There seems to be some truth that there’s external forces taking advantage of the situation.
We are one more similar incident away from large scale chaos.
BUT NO WORRIES. As I said, stock market will open BIG on Monday to celebrate this.
These antifa scum are quite common in Seattle. Young white men dressed in black who always come out of the woodwork to cause mayhem. Anarchists.
Yeah, this is a problem long in the making. Local government officials are afraid of the police and fire unions. State and federal officials have needed to crack down harder on bad cops for a long time….none of them have done a damn thing to deal with this….same old sad story, and now with all of the unemployed youth? Its gonna be a long hot summer.
Ooohhh, that’s a BINGO! (Is that how you say it?)
Complaints have been lodged against the cop in the past. What were the outcomes? Did the union protect him? Did the Department attempt past action against him and other bad apples only to have their attempts at meaningful discipline overturned by an arbitrator at the state level?
In my blue state, cops fired or suspended long term for proven bad behavior are reinstated with back pay and benefits by liberal arbitrators (and it’s obvious they’re liberal by looking at their arbitration award history) ALL THE TIME!
The rot is also evident in the courts, which are also full of lenient leftists.
Police departments eventually recognize the futility of going after bad actors for anything short of egregious conduct (like the MN cop’s) because it’s pointless to waste their time on anything less.
What’s happening is just a stark visual of the darkness that has been brewing for generations. Voting in elections is NOT going to change a bloody thing unfortunately staying home won’t change a thing either.
What would have tremendous impact is if the white middle and upper class also took to the streets in non violent protest. Alas, they are way too complacent and comfortable for that to ever happen. They love their security!
As long as black people have it slightly worse, white people will do nothing to defend themselves from The Government.
Spot on.
When you organize the protest against the lawlessness of the rioters and looters, please let us know so that the law abiding citizens can turn out to support your effort.
So you’re saying that the rioters and looters are the new State? Seems legit.
The mayor, governor and attorney general just sat back and waited …
What a surprise!!! Looks like a Paul Krugman GDP enhancement.
All the people that carry on about their 2nd amendment rights enabling them to keep the government in check are conspicuously absent.
The police straight up murdered a guy, and tried to sweep it under the rug. Again.
For those that have trouble keeping up:
The police are The Government
Donald Trump is The Government
The military is The Government
Are you on the side of The Government?
Gimme a F-ing break! What that police officer did it not right. This I agree. I see a lot of people who are white, pro 2nd Amendment speaking against this action to Floyd. You must be an Antifa member to spew your BS vitriol. I have not seen your comatose Democrat Presidential candidate (Biden) say anything to resolve this violence. MAGA.
So you’re with The Government. Glad you have that clear in your head now.
Yes we are all obeying the law I guess that’s call absent.
Yes Go Bidden. He has been in government longer than anyone!
Your support for The Government is appreciated, citizen!
These are local cops in jurisdictions that have been run by Democrats for decades. All their blather about supporting minorities is so much BS. Police departments have always had the problem of officers that are little more than street thugs in blue. They joined the police force for the opportunity to push people around and beat the shit out of anyone as long as they could make up some flimsy justification. They are a disgrace to the other police that meet the scum of the earth every day and try to do an honorable job in a dangerous environment.
That these A-holes exist is not the problem. That those in authority allow it to continue is the problem. It is no different from child molesters in the Catholic church.
I believe most police are trying to do a fair and decent job in difficult circumstances. Of course, as in most jobs, there are rouges and cowboys who have their own ideas about what their job is. And sure, those in authority often know who the cowboys are but unions prevent them from doing anything to get rid of these people before they do something really stupid, like the cops in MN did.
The whole Black Lives Matter thing started after Zimmerman was shot in 2013. Let’s blame obama for that.
I believe your referring to Trayvon Martin who was killed by George Zimmerman
It would appear you are a Marxist revolutionary intent on overthrowing the current social order. A slew of mindless riots fits in well with your plans don’t they?
The “current social order” is the direct result of what is hardly distinguishable from Marxism….
Which is why “our” police forces are hardly distinguishable from those of the Soviet Union and the DDR.
And why “our” companies are about as competitive as Soviet ones were.
And why all those who have any wealth, influence and power at all, near to a person obtained it solely by machinations of The State and state organs like The Fed. Rather than through being efficiently serving a free market.
Pumping fists, waving flags and clinging to antiquated notions of America being some sort of a “Land of the Free”, just because that was the case 150 years ago, doesn’t make it so now. Lands of the Free don’t have income taxes. Nor central banks. They don’t force their citizens to bail out regime lackey banksters. Nor drag people into court just to help enrich ambulance chasing garbage.
Once a country does any of the above, much less all of them, it no longer has anything in common with a free country. But has, instead, increasingly more in common with all the other failed experiments in social organizations derived directly from Marx’ teachings.
Nancy Pelosi is the government. Chuck Shummer is the government. Adam Shiff is the government. and they have been for a long time…..
#Zardoz
The “Government” is all of us. You are ‘part of the Government.”
The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with it. The law is clear. If the police officer used excessive force, he will be punished.
YOU – on the other hand – clearly want him lynched and hung. No need for ‘due process’ – good enough for you. Hang him…
From that perspective – YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT. Think about it.
Hmmm looks like you aren’t looking that hard.