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Unemployment Claims Have the Largest Increase Since March 2020

Initial Claims Trend Turns Up

Initial claims bottomed at 711,000 on November 7, 2020 and have been rising in a choppy fashion since then.

Continued Claims

Continued claims lag initial claims by a week. Continued claims appear to have bottomed and likely have. 

A number of people dropped off the rolls because they expired all of their weekly benefits. 

Although Congress extended emergency benefits such as PUA and PEUC, those programs expired for a short while. Numbers for those programs are even more distorted so I will wait for a bit to comment.  

Jobs Recovery Has Gone Into Reverse

Last Friday I noted Jobs Decline for the First Time in 8 Months

Today’s unemployment claims number strengthen the idea the jobs recovery has stalled.

Mish

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Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago

All of this leads to the question of why it was so essential to shut Parler down immediately. It was free conversation, with no privacy. The government, or anyone else, could easily track what was being said, and identify the ip and location of the speaker. That seems like exactly what the law enforcement would want. Now, the evil people will be scattered to various sites, where they undoubtedly will have better privacy and more secrecy. Shutting Parler down may have made law enforcement’s job a lot harder, not easier.

To make a non-internet analogy, suppose you have a coffee shop, and a group is planning insurrection, just sitting at a table, and doing it with police sitting at the table next to them. The coffee shop owner kicks them out, so they move to someone’s basement. Did the decision to kick them out of the coffee shop prevent evil? No, the same evil people are still around, and if anything, more angry. Did it keep them from communicating? No. Did it make it harder to track them? Yes.

The only argument that I can think of as to how shutting down Parler instantly might have helped comes down to a single person. It prevented Trump from using Parler to communicate with millions of people at the same time.

Haze90
Haze90
5 years ago

Welcome to the great reset! The rich ate richer and the smart middle class are even more richer! Universal basic income which is here is even better, why because you can buy more stuff increasing purchases of goods and stocks! The only ones that will suffer are the poor and shiny object searching fools. No one knows the future and I surely don’t but I’m rich “250k + per year” pay 0 taxes legally and legally received 3.5 million in forgivable loans for my businesses. I also created “green” investments in my business for the tax credits. I will also be spending more in “environmental friendly” alternatives for tax credits. This is why rich don’t pay taxes. They just adjust and I have no college degree but a wise mentor. Everyone fights among themselves like children while the government steals the futures of your children Trump/Biden/Pinocchio it doesn’t matter as the divided falls and the people that are financially savy just adjust. My Tesla was bought by Tesla and house too! Thank you government credits! My other EV plays netted me 2 million since Joe became the elect and I can’t thank him enough. A boy that grew up poor with 0 college and a small business a multimillionaire during Covid. I feel like this is the dumbest Idiocracy we live in but F it let’s get rich!

Mish
Mish
5 years ago

No Evidence Supporting the “let me get this straight” allegation.

From WIRED

Parler’s cardinal security sin is known as an insecure direct object reference, says Kenneth White, codirector of the Open Crypto Audit Project, who looked at the code of the download tool @donk_enby posted online. An IDOR occurs when a hacker can simply guess the pattern an application uses to refer to its stored data. In this case, the posts on Parler were simply listed in chronological order: Increase a value in a Parler post url by one, and you’d get the next post that appeared on the site. Parler also doesn’t require authentication to view public posts and doesn’t use any sort of “rate limiting” that would cut off anyone accessing too many posts too quickly. Together with the IDOR issue, that meant that any hacker could write a simple script to reach out to Parler’s web server and enumerate and download every message, photo, and video in the order they were posted.

“It’s just a straight sequence, which is mind-numbing to me,” says White. “This is like a Computer Science 101 bad homework assignment, the kind of stuff that you would do when you’re first learning how web servers work. I wouldn’t even call it a rookie mistake because, as a professional, you would never write something like this.”

From donk_enby

Mish
Mish
5 years ago
Reply to  Mish

From Wired

bradw2k
bradw2k
5 years ago
Reply to  Mish

The default in web frameworks like Rails is to put the (autoincrementing) DB table key ID right in the URL. Ugly. I wonder what framework Parler used for their API backend.

Greggg
Greggg
5 years ago

Here in Michigan:
The weekly benefit amount is capped at $362. To determine how many weeks of benefits you may receive, BW&UC multiplies your total base period wages by 43%, and then divides that answer by your weekly benefit amount. The claim, however, cannot be less than 14 weeks or more than 26 weeks.
So, we now have a whittled down active employee that’s being chomped down to a smaller size in round 2.

Mish
Mish
5 years ago

Repeating prior thread comments

@Doug78 says “Let me get this right. Somebody who works at twitter hacks Parler and downloads all their data. Twitter and friends then takes down Parler”

Let YOU get this straight @Doug78 I am tired of bullshit straw man statements presented as facts to make them seem like they happened.

This applies to everyone

Frilton Miedman
Frilton Miedman
5 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Thank you for not being ZH.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

Covid is the economy, now.

UK preventing flights from most of South America due to new Brazil variant that may not be handled via the current vaccines.

Meanwhile, our government is at a standstill apparently with respect to the virus. Basic precautions are still not being taken.

USA 11th highest per capita death rate in the world. 7th highest case per capita case rate. This is without the more contagious British variant taking hold and before the other monsters lurking in that closet come out.

There is still a lot more pain to come. This is what happens when you assume “it’s just gonna go away” and all of your enablers agree.

One-armed Economist
One-armed Economist
5 years ago

Actually the States and reporting are just MONTHS behind. I.e. last Friday I put in over 60 calls to TX Unemp. Divsion. Only 2 calls went thru, 1 was dropped while I held 45 minutes into, the other dropped me at near 3 hours. KS is 3 months+ behind. There’s a hell out there waiting to show in more data IMHO (and not just me).

Scooot
Scooot
5 years ago

Sorry to hear you’ve had so much aggravation. I’ve had my doubts about their stats for ages.

Greggg
Greggg
5 years ago

Michigan is worse. We still have people laid off last April still waiting for their first check.
Back in the 1970’s during the energy crisis, Michigan was hit very hard. Most auto workers were laid off and Chrysler Highland Park Engineering where I worked, laid off 98.5% for about 100 days. We had to appear at local unemployment offices in person to file for benefits. The line was about 3/4 of a mile long and it too 3 1/2 hours standing in line in the cold and wet snow. As far as the claims, everything went very smoothly. All handled by hand. We had no internet back then and fraud was practically non-existent.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago

I we don’t get the COVID numbers down, it could get worse instead of better. The vaccinations need to ramp up some more..

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

Rapid testing is less reliable, so more false positives make things look worse, and false negatives let infected people spread the virus.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

When we have a possible exposure, we get both tests…So far no false positives or negatives either one though…in my limited experience. Technique matters a lot in testing. If it’s done right, the accuracy is better.

caradoc-again
caradoc-again
5 years ago

A considerable re-allocation of labour will have to happen along with training for new jobs.

The jobs market itself will have changed and not return to what it was & how many, who can afford to retire, will return?

Haze90
Haze90
5 years ago
Reply to  caradoc-again

Retire lol 😆

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
5 years ago

Given the prolonged, elevated initial state claims, and disproportional unemployment number, there may be a couple of things happening. People who have been laid off have started selling things online. There may be some repeat initial unemployment claims by people who lost their job, used up part of their unemployment benefits, found a job, and then were let go again. That’s IF you trust government numbers.

Frilton Miedman
Frilton Miedman
5 years ago

“It’s only 15 cases, will soon be down to zero”…Carry on, go to maga rallies, don’t bother masking, it’s fake-flu and the health industry is fear-mongering for profits, HCQ or drinking bleach cures it anyway!

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