Is a war with Iran too late to stop? 
U.S. Military Moves Into Place for Possible Strikes in Iran
The New York Times reports U.S. Military Moves Into Place for Possible Strikes in Iran
The rapid buildup of U.S. forces in the Middle East has progressed to the point that President Trump has the option to take military action against Iran as soon as this weekend, administration and Pentagon officials said, leaving the White House with high-stakes choices about pursuing diplomacy or war.
Mr. Trump has given no indication that he has made a decision about how to proceed. But the drive to assemble a military force capable of striking Iran’s nuclear program, its ballistic missiles and accompanying launch sites has continued this week despite indirect talks between the two nations on Tuesday, with Iran seeking two weeks to come back with fleshed out proposals for a diplomatic resolution.
Mr. Trump has repeatedly demanded that Iran give up its nuclear program, including agreeing not to enrich any more uranium. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, whose country would potentially take part in an attack, has been pushing for action to weaken Iran’s ability to launch missiles at Israel.
Israeli forces, which have been on heightened alert for weeks, have been making more preparations for a possible war, and a meeting of Israel’s security cabinet was moved to Sunday from Thursday, according to two Israeli defense officials.
Many administration officials have expressed skepticism about the prospects of reaching a diplomatic deal with Tehran. The indirect talks on Tuesday in Geneva ended with what Iran’s foreign minister said was agreement on a “set of guiding principles.” U.S. officials said the two sides made progress but added that big gaps remain.
Mr. Trump has repeatedly threatened that Iran must meet his terms or face severe consequences. But another attack, eight months after a 12-day war in which Israel and the United States assaulted military and nuclear sites across Iran, would potentially carry substantial risks, including that Iran would respond with a ferocious barrage of missile strikes on Israel and on U.S. forces in the region.
For a president who ran for office promising to keep the United States out of wars, Mr. Trump is now considering what would be at least the seventh American military attack in another country in the past year, and his second on Iran. Last June, after striking three Iranian nuclear sites, Mr. Trump declared that Iran’s nuclear program had been “obliterated.” But now he is considering sending U.S. military back to continue the job.
But unlike the U.S.-Israeli assault last June, Mr. Trump’s objectives now are less clear.
The U.S. military buildup includes dozens of refueling tankers, rushed to the region by United States Central Command, more than 50 additional fighter jets, and two aircraft carrier strike groups, complete with their accompanying destroyers, cruisers and submarines, U.S. officials said.
The American buildup also includes dozens of additional F-35, F-22 and F-16 fighter jets that have been flowing from the United States to Europe and onward to the Middle East in recent days, according to flight tracking data and U.S. officials.
Dozens of refueling planes, vital for a prolonged air campaign, have also been moved forward, those officials say.
The second aircraft carrier, the Gerald Ford, and its three destroyer escorts could be in the Mediterranean by the weekend or early next week, military officials said. The Ford is likely to be deployed initially near the coast of Israel to defend Tel Aviv and other Israeli cities and towns, officials said.
Senior national security officials have told the president that any operation that aims to change the Iranian leadership is not guaranteed to be a success, the officials said.
U.S. Gathers the Most Air Power in the Mideast Since the 2003 Iraq Invasion
The Wall Street Journal reports U.S. Gathers the Most Air Power in the Mideast Since the 2003 Iraq Invasion
The U.S. is ready to take action against Iran, but President Trump hasn’t decided whether to order strikes or—if he does order them—whether the aim would be to halt Iran’s already-battered nuclear program, wipe out its missile force or try to topple the regime.
Over the past few days, the U.S. has continued to move cutting-edge F-35 and F-22 jet fighters toward the Middle East, according to flight-tracking data and a U.S. official. A second aircraft carrier loaded with attack and electronic-warfare planes is on the way. Command-and-control aircraft, which are vital for orchestrating large air campaigns, are inbound. And critical air defenses have been deployed to the region in recent weeks.
The firepower will give the U.S. the option of carrying out a sustained, weekslong air war against Iran instead of the one-and-done “Midnight Hammer” strike the U.S. carried out in June against three Iranian nuclear sites, U.S. officials said.
Representatives from the U.S. and Iran met in Geneva this week to negotiate a possible deal over Iranian enrichment of uranium. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said there had been “a little bit of progress” in those talks, but added, “We’re still very far apart on some issues.” Iran is expected to offer a more detailed proposal to the U.S. in the next few weeks, Leavitt said.
Trump has received several briefings on his military options should he choose to strike, all of them designed to maximize damage to Iran’s regime and its regional proxies, U.S. officials said.
The options include a campaign to kill scores of Iranian political and military leaders, with the goal of overthrowing the government, U.S. and foreign officials said, as well as an air attack that would be limited to striking targets including nuclear and ballistic-missile facilities. Both would involve a potentially weekslong operation.
Given the uncertainties, some former military officers said a diplomatic agreement could be preferable to war. [Only Some?!]
Trump has repeatedly threatened an attack on Iran should negotiations fail. “I don’t think they want the consequences of not making a deal,” he told reporters Monday.
Eliot Cohen, who led a study of the use of air power in Desert Storm for the Air Force and is now a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said that a punishing air campaign might try to weaken Iran’s leadership in a way that surviving members of the elite would agree to a far-reaching accommodation with Washington.
“If what Trump really wants to do is affect the regime and set back its ability to use missiles to attack American bases, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, it would probably have to be an intense operation that would last weeks or possibly months,” he said.
Just burning more fuels to help climate change along. /s
Iran has huge oil fields.Iran sells oil to China.Us is quietly closing every big oil market to China.
There is a war between US and China for ressources…..
Epstein crisis is getting deeper and deeper.
This might be the last chance for Israel to destroy Iran.
I think Israel will do it and Trump will follow.
Unless it uses nuclear weapons (which it might), Israel doesn’t have the ability or desire to fight an extended war with Iran. The strategy is the same as with Iraq, tell the Americans to fight the war for them. That way Americans die rather than Israelis.
Dudes… once again, nothing to see here! “The Dow is over 50,000 right now!”
Trump is awaiting Israeli order to attack or not.
But Trump is ready to defend Tel Aviv and other cities.
MIGA – – – Make Israel Great Again.
And it’s one two three
What are we fighting for
Don’t ask
I don’t give a damn
Next stop
Is eye ran
Well it’s five six seven (six seven, oh yeah)
Open up the pearly gates !
Well, there ain’t no time to wonder why
Whoopee!
We’re all gonna dye
Country joe
In case
You didn’t know
Did anyone remember to buy the carbon credit sustainability off-sets?
I really hope President Kushner rethinks this impending war.
The US has been conducting a dirty/hybrid/sanctions/terror/outright war on Iran for 47 years. The goal is to insert a compliant regime.
The rest is excuses. They are not the world’s greatest sponsor of terror like everybody says; they have never had a nuclear warhead project, in fact the ayatollahs are probably the only people in Iran that are stopping it at this point; now it’s the missiles. Iran must capitulate and turn belly up so that AmericIsrael can stab it at will.
The negotiations are face, perfidy, just to maintain a facade, as outline in 2009 paper “Which way to Persia?”, to maintain the semblance of being peaceable.
The plan is murder & mayhem and hope for a miracle when the dust settles.
Likely outcome: Another Libya failed state OR a humiliation of American power.
The question people should worry about:
What if Iran strikes a carrier and it sinks, will America again resort to nuclear bombing of an unarmed population?
drastic, but saying it all in 5 sentences
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She got this all figured out a long time before Trash Pajeet, the useless deep state cocksucking kunt, got involved.
Jeffery Epstein
Leon Black
Less Wexner
etc etc etc
Does the US have the ironclad ability to protect its carriers from drone swarms? If not, they are sitting ducks.
Derecho I am not an expert in naval warfare but the Iranians were able to hit the israelis AKA getting through iron dome
Our carriers are vulnerable to drone swarms speed boats with torpedoes mines and submarines. Our political leadership if you can call it that are putting our brothers and sisters in harms way.
To answer your question it is possible some of these weapons will hit our ships.
Also China and Russia are providing Iran radar and satellite.
The ships with our brothers and sisters on them should be pulled out ASAP
No blood for oil
No more disposable heros
Mind our own business fix Americans problems and be neutral
Also the Iranians have hypersonic missiles the Persian Gulf area is a hornets nest that should not be kicked!!
Absolutely.
Stay out of range.
Of course that vitiates any point to them being there, since that puts them out of range to strike anything in Iran.
Part of the problem is with the bloated American military and the costs of its arms. While Iran or Yemen can attack an American ship with a $10,000 drone, the US typically takes out the drone with a $2 million missile, because it can’t risk the ship getting hit. https://warontherocks.com/2025/11/the-hidden-cost-of-a-missile-why-the-headlines-get-cost-wrong/
America spent $1 billion fighting the Houthis in tiny Yemen before agreeing to a truce last year; Yemen likely spent less than $5 million. With so many American targets in the region, Iran can do a lot of damage, both to American troops and assets.
More taco threats to get minds off this continuing shortfalls?
inshallah
Trump’s best attribute is chickening out. Hope it happens because going to war with Iran is insane.
Until you see ground troops moving it a show. The us voter wont put up with loss of american lives in these unjustified conflicts. That is part of the reason we have so much tech.
The US suffered almost 40,000 wounded and killed in Iraq and that wasn’t justified.
plus serious anthrax vaccine injured: between 150,000 and 200,000, conservatively – AI reply (depends who you ask of course). Though this figure really appears excessive. But 1 in 50 with serious adverse effect documented.
Plus uranium depleted bullets and death and sickness from burn pits my question is why does Tulsi Gabbard whom knows about this is keeping quiet??
TULSI was always a great grifter. just told the middlebrows what they wanted to hear on her path to power, to paraphrase, robert caro.
Sure looks that way. We can imagine she’s doing whatever she can behind the scene to stop this. We can also imagine getting a unicorn for Christmas.
The US voter will put up with as much crap as their elected officials can throw at them, then on bended knee begging for more.
If Iran utilizes asymmetric warfare to the extent they are capable of it’s gonna be a helluva bloody mess. Their hypersonic missiles can’t be defended against. They have the capability to do a lot of damage to the oil producing infrastructure in the Middle East as well. If they play that card the Western Financial system will take a helluva hit.
… and an intervention of a few weeks turn into an Afghanistan II for several years, which DJT and his warmongering neocon club controlled from the background certainly will not survive. Iran has a defense cooperation with Pakistan signed 15 years ago so there will be support from there, and China and Russia will certainly not simply sit there and watch yet another US aggression played out in full. Good luck.
https://conflictsforum.substack.com/p/who-can-halt-the-america-first-ambition
They’re supposed “Hypersonic Missiles” are the equivalent of Iraq’s WMD’s.
Pure bullshit. Vaporware… They do not exist!
They can barely hit Israel which is right next door with a spitball!
More proof that as long as Fox propagandists can imagine it, MAGA heads will promote it as fact.
The Iranians hit the israeli stock exchange and many other buildings not sure what kind of missiles
all the repugs voted for WMD and half the dems. like their voters. democracy works, old sport. always has. always will. amerikans just cannot face the mirror to see who the cunts of the world are. hat tip plato
You have no idea what you are talking about. Many videos from last June demonstrate the day and night difference between a typical ballistic missile or small rocket and a large hypersonic vehicle. The latter go from being out of frame high above to hitting a target in less than a second. Also, you typically don’t see much visual evidence (at least at night) of a standard ballistic missile until impact. But the hypersonic delivery vehicle is going so fast on re-entry it develops a hot plasma field around it. That’s why it looks like a streak of light right before impact.
More bullshit!
Iran can not defend itself from the US.
The only chance Trump has of generating a war is a false flag incident.
End of story.
I stated some observable characteristics of hypersonic missiles which differentiate them from typical ballistic missiles. You could have retorted “but they are supposed to be maneuverable and those videos don’t show that!”. And then I could find a video that demonstrates that aspect. But instead you throw up “bullshit!” and make a spurious claim that Iran cannot defend itself (or even fight Israel to an extent we could call it a proper war?).
Le sigh.
I agree with you. I’m completely opposed to any attack on Iran, but people questioning the competence and dominance of the US military in a first strike capacity are really out to lunch.
The fact that Iran was able to slip a small percentage of missiles through Israeli air defenses of their entire geographical footprint is hardly the same as successfully striking a limited number of relatively tiny and heavily defended moving targets in the ocean.
Will there be a “False Flag” attack again?
US oil producers are setting production records and the profits will be staggering.
Think how many teenagers Trump and his complicit congressmen and sycophants can rape if the dow hits 70K
I burn lots of hydrocarbons, so I benefit from our imposition of our will on nations with hydrocarbons. The US’s interstate system creates fantastic bandwidth of freedom for Americans. I can use tractors and all sorts of fertilizers to grow crops and heat my greenhouses with natural gas economically to extend the growing season. I run photoperiod lighting to manage blooming and optimize seed production for rare and endangered plants. Like I said, hydrocarbon heaven! I live on the side that is “Winning”.
My kids are not being burned in their beds, Jewish kids are not being burned in their beds. We get to watch the genocidal highlights from Iran, Iraq, Venezuela on Fox News from the comfort of our living rooms. A big ass fireworks display while eating popcorn!
When our children ask why we attack other nations, we get to teach them to dehumanize those we bomb and call them “”Savages”, “Muslims”, or creatively, “Narco Terrorists”. We, of course, are perfectly innocent in invading their nations, killing their children, grandparents, brothers, sisters and friends.
We do not show our solders coming home in flag draped coffins or their broken bodies.
Our great grandchildren will pay the bills, or the price in one way, or another.
If ~ They are ever born…
well said Frosty. pax dumbfuckistan has been voting for nonstop world wide imperial warfare since at least 1898. one is either a war monger or a nihilist to vote for the uniparty red or blue parties. the only sane peaceful humans in amerika vote libertarian or green for federal offices. just reality. hat tip plato’s republic.
It’s a jewish world. and we’re just in it.
Rather, it’s a jewish club and we ain’t in it.
God’s Chosen People a/k/a The Master Race
The evil empire has moved it’s “death star” to Iran from Venezuela. After destroying Iran, it will move on to Greenland.
I think we can take Greenland – hopefully without resorting to nukes.
I hear that Turkey is next after Iran.
Remember what happened to the Death Star?
waiting for the Olympics to end
Trump had me and millions of others fooled that he would be less likely to get the US into wars like Kamala would have. It’s true that Kamala would have gone along with whatever the Military Industrial Complex wanted to do.
The problem is, Trump has put deranged people in charge who have the power of the MIC behind them to do crazy things. On top of the military “purge” that was done shortly after he took office.
So ironically, if Kamala had won, we would have had a much more sane MIC that’s not going reckless like this one is.
That excuse doesn’t work after his first term. He showed exactly what he is, and these people voted for him anyway.
What wars did he start in Trump 1.0? Shooting a few Tomahawks onto the tarmac in Syria doesn’t count.
It does count. And he expanded the footprint there and proudly “took their oil”. And expanded the merc presence.
And proudly arming Ukraine and presiding over their exercises with nato. By staging it, he’s as responsible for the NATO war against Russia as Biden, who couldn’t have advanced it to the next stage without trump’s work.
And stealing all VZ’s Citgo revenue and setting up the subsequent acts of war. (That’s piracy and war, even if it’s short.)
And murdering the Iranian general visiting Iraq officially as a diplomat. And reneging on the agreement with Iran. We’re again on the precipice because a prior admin — Trump’s — set the stage.
There’s more, of course. This guy didn’t drain the swamp, the deep state, the mic, etc. He hired Bolton and Abrams. Did he cut their budgets or expand them? What do you think they do with the money? And what percentage of SF ops aren’t classified?
El Trumpedo is correct in his statement: Trump showed everyone who he is. People who voted for him a second time are accessories to his crimes.
Good points all. Anyone who would pick Bolton for is sus.
Dude, you are a class act. I thought so before. This is just another example. What am I referring to? Often times, people just dig in their heels. (I’m sure I do it too, even though I’m probably unaware.). You didn’t.
Now I wish I’d started more cordially…
Cheers.
It feels like chickenhawk lindsay graham is prez.
Yupp
“Accessories to his crimes” => I’m not buying that one. Voters remorse is understandable, but you deal with the information you have to work with. Kamala was a terrible candidate and she wouldn’t have pushed back against the MIC in any way. One could argue that at at least we wouldn’t have ICE debacles but I can think of a dozen more crises brought on deck.
Like trumpedo says, you had access to all the information you needed.
Stop voting uniparty. Stop enabling their crimes and immunity.
Nah, whoever’s turn in the Oval Office it is, one thing is certain: the wars that happen on one side’s turn would also happen if the turn were the other side’s. The office of the Fantoche of the United States, FOTUS, works as intended.
“Continuity of agenda” as Brian Berletic calls it.
Brian is worth listening to. I thought he was overly pessimistic when Trump took office but he was correct!
Do you think Kamala would have done all the overseas things Trump has done so far? I think not. Her public relations façade wouldn’t allow her to bomb boats extra-judiciously, kidnap a foreign president, total goods blockade of Cuba, or going full bore with Israel’s plan for regime change in Iran. None of those would have happened.
She wouldn’t have tariffed Canada either.
And she wouldn’t have raped those little girls, and absolutely destroyed any respect other countries still had for us.
Several female clients of Epstein’s raped girls.
Therefore all women rape children?
“Elected US presidents may come in with ideas, but, once they take office, people in briefcases, well-dressed in dark suits show up and explain to them how things are done.” (Vladimir Putin)
You’re pretending like she wouldn’t be surrounded by neocons like Blinken. She might well have continued the “more aggression is better” approach to Ukraine and delivered the Tomahawks leading to uncontrolled escalation. I would also expect a quicker escalation in Taiwan – that’s coming as well, but looks like the neocons are sequencing Iran first, then China.
We would have about the same policies with a more soothing word salad rhetoric.
I’m European so no side to pick….but why on earth do Americans see the Democratic Party as war mongers it simply does not add up…
Bush Snr – Big war
Bush Jnr – Big war
Trump – looking for a big war to distract from other nonsense
It is complete nonsense that Hilary and Kamala wouldn’t have at least tried a more diplomatic path. IMHO, the sooner women are in charge the better. They seem less driven by this Team America nonsense.
Come on America get over this “my side needs to win” shit and grow up!
I’m afraid you will need a better source than the Democratic Party or the New York Times for your claims that Democrat Presidents are Peacemakers. In particular:
Jimmy Carter continued and even expanded the full arming and funding of Indonesia’s appalling genocide in East Timor.
Bill Clinton led or participated in military interventions in Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti, and Iraq. Interestingly, while intervening in Yugoslavia he did nothing to stop the genocide in Rwanda.
Barack Obama continued wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, continued operating Guantanamo (despite a campaign promise that he would shut down the military base “on day one” of his presidency), used the military to effect regime change in Libya in Egypt, and bombed Yemen, Syria, Somalia, and Pakistan. Hilary Clinton led much of this in her Secretary of State role.
Joe Biden funded and supplied massive military support for war in Ukraine and funded and supported Israel’s daily bombing and genocide in Gaza, as well as attacks on Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen.
Any vote for the Uniparty is a vote for worldwide military intervention and weapons sales/use.
Bill Clinton was spooked by the US’s losses in Somalia – so was reluctant to get involved in Rwanda – however, the UN did.
Yes, the video of dead and wounded US soldiers getting dragged through the streets of Mogadishu by Somali warlords did not play well with the American public.
That’s a stretch. The guy you replied to is right, the false equivalence is getting really old. It’s not a contest between who’s perfect and who’s not, it’s between who’s better, and it’s not even close.
You think Democrats are much better than Republicans?! There are robust debates between them about what bathrooms trans people should be able to use, whether and how immigration laws should be enforced, and whether we should have Affirmative Action, but that’s about it.
Why is it that the government (Medicare) is legally prohibited from negotiating the drug prices it buys from pharma (except for less than five drugs!) and almost every other country pays less for the same drugs than America does? Why are members of congress never prosecuted for making millions of dollars in the markets through insider knowledge of what legislation will be passed? Why does government choose not to prosecute (or hold accountable in any way) Epstein co-conspirators and participants? Why is the military budget never ever cut, even though it is larger than the next ten largest countries in the world? Why do we put more people in prison than any other country in the world? Why are American leaders never held to account for their roles in genocide, extrajudicial killing, or other human rights violations? Why does America continue to provide massive funding and weaponry to Israel even though they are daily committing genocide? Why is the government allowed to conduct mass surveillance of Americans and lie about it? Why does America kill innocent people in other countries (especially the Middle East) by bombing them all the time, even though they are no threat to us? Why are we never allowed to audit the Federal Reserve, even when the American people have overwhelmingly expressed an interest to do so?
Because Americans thoroughly support the Uniparty. Maybe we are the problem?!
Omg the trans thing, you gotta be fucking 😂
How is anyone still this dumb falling for this shit, Jesus
IMO
Iran has nothing of substance to defend itself with or capacity to attack other nations with. This was proven during the last 12 day attack by Israel and the US.
Wag The Dog bullshit to deflect scrutiny of Trump from Epstein file coverup.
Trump is a petty tyrant and he should be removed from office along with his team of criminal backers and they should all be prosecuted.
RICO Act!
That’s because Israhel censored picture from its cities after being attacked by Iran’s missiles: you would be excused to confuse them with pictures of Gaza city today.
Yup. Israel begged to end the war they’d started because they were getting hammered way beyond what they’d thought possible. They were out of anti-missile defense missiles. Iron Dome and David’s Sling and Nehemiah’s Ballsack were all ineffective.
“Nehemiah’s Ballsack”
Oh god, I’m DYING!
Nonsense! Iran is defenseless or bubba Trump wouldn’t be taking their oil.
Since Trump is the self declared “President of Venezuela” it id double funny that he is attacking Iran. Trump is a pathetic pawn of BiBi and the media bosses that tell us what to think…
LOL!
Frosty, Right on! This has nothing to do with Making 🇺🇸 Great Again but rather making a Greater Israel! NutYahoo comes often and gives him his marching orders. Iran is the last to fall from NeoCon General Wesley Clark 7 countries list in Africa/ Middle East. T fooled us All (as Bushie did), as he ran on as Prez of Peace yet renamed DoD to DoWar and attacked many nations since and more to come!🤮
T also said He Will Obliterate Deep State! But He is Deep State! And don’t get me started on the coverup of E files, while calling many MAGA stupid for wanting the exposure of files. DoJ under Bondi & FBI Kash Patel cleaned it up and T 180° turn and ok now. Meanwhile they redacted 480+ files that reference Him.
Yet Trumpsters 👀 away! Very 😔 but unless body bags start coming back there’s No accountability by T and His NeoCon Military Industrial Complex & AIPAC cabal.
Iran has lots of capacity to attack other countries with. More importantly is their weapons supplies to groups like Hesbollah, Hamas and Houthis.
Let’s hope any strike is focused on the mullahs and the IRG and there is regime change to something more moderate. Doesn’t need to be pro west but just peaceful so that sanctions can end and the Iranian people can benefit
Neal Not our job to decide who’s good or bad! Nobody made us 👮♂️ of 🌎. But Every conflict we got involved in starting w/ Vietnam on.. A Disaster Remember WMDs in Iraq, None! Just death and destruction. Btw Bushie gave us the misnamed Patriot Act, so now we can all become ‘domestic terrorists’ by either side of Uniparty if we disagree on direction of country!
Kill first and second amendment as T brings Authoritarian Technocracy w/ his Billionaire SiliconV Tech Bros. (Thiel, Ellison, Altman, Gates, Zucky etc)
America First! Fix our country domestically as Middle America is suffering while we spend Trillions on Military Industrial Complex and make Neocons very wealthy while 🇺🇸 Debt will be exploding past $40Trillion very 🔜. My 2c
Start WARS , starve and kill do everything to distract and protect the Epstein pedofiles. PROTECT THE PEDOs
Randy Andy went down today.
But for leaking official secrets, not for his other extracurricular activities.
… which no doubt or how he was paid for the secrets.
Looks like there’s going to be one Epstein war after another until end of term or impeachment or nature takes it’s course.
The best way to short circuit that would be for the US to attack Israel instead of Iran. Joke’s on you, Bibi.
I would vote for trump for a third term if he did that.
I would buy a Maga hat and put stickers all over the back of my truck.
I would spend every vacation in DC, standing at the fence blowing kisses to the Whitehouse.
Israel needs to be stomped, hard. They are all wrapped up in this Trumpstien bullshit, and are blackmailing half our government and bribing the other half.
ALL The President’s Following Same Plan – Greater Israel.!
“The role of the President of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the People of Israel”
Ann Lewis
End Of ‘American’ Empire – Rise Of ‘Greater Israel’.!
(‘Finishing Off, Iran’) Gen W. Clark (+ Gaza Genocide)
In 1995, Benjamin Netanyahu wrote a book called ‘Fighting Terrorism’ where he listed 7 countries that needed ‘Regime Change’ to ‘Secure Israel’. Those countries were Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.
In 2001, This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and
– (‘Finishing Off, Iran’) Gen W. Clark
US/UK/Greater Israel(NATO) NORTH America Terrorist Org. (BANKRUPT)
‘VERSUS’ BRICS Alliance (Global SOUTH) (RESOURCE RICH)
2 Aircraft Carrier Groups Will Soon Surround ‘Iran’.!
When the United States attacks another country for what it does inside its own borders, it will not have much justification to complain if another country does the same thing, such as a China takeover of Taiwan.
I am not a big fan of Iran. However its current regime is an over-reaction to the US backed and installed corrupt Shah of Iran. The Iranian people were finally starting to make some headway against the ayatollahs but an outside attack has the chance of bringing them together.
Trump DGAF about Iranian people or Iran, it’s all part of his Epstein cover up, the biggest coverup in US history.
You and I both know Trump will not honor a standard when it applies to someone else, only to himself. Don’t fool yourself.
I feel bad for the normal Iranians … caught between an islamofascist government and a pedofacist government that needs a distraction badly enough to kill hundreds or thousands of them.
You might say the Iranian people are caught between Iraq and a disgrace (the orange kind)
“When the United States attacks another country for what it does inside its own borders, it will not have much justification to complain if another country does the same thing, such as a China takeover of Taiwan.”
Rule of Law? How quaint! Didn’t you hear—Trump has evolved the world into the Might Makes Right phase of existence?!
As the late Robert Fisk once told me, As the American Empire becomes weaker, it will become more erratic and violent. He knew that region well, and didn’t think the story would end peacefully.
I suspect that a lot of powerful people are trying to speed up the second coming…one does not have to be smart to be powerful.
The funny thing is, these people wanting the second coming are literally following the antichrist, and disparaging the teachings of Jesus.
Evangelicals are a disease.
With Christian education once upon a time, they’re seem to be more like Evilgelicals to me.
Nobody of influence and authority acutally believes any of the End Times rapture crap, otherwise they would not be so frantically amssing for themselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal.
It could be as simple as donors & lobby groups encouraging them to pretend to sing that song.
They have created a huge army of people that do, however, and that’s exactly the lever they used to do it.
The new boss has the same old boss (the zionists).
With any luck we/they will bite off more than we/they can chew, so to speak.
it maybe a trap then what does america do when the shit hits the fan.
this is not iraq or libya most of those aircraft carriers are sitting ducks
where they are situated. look at israel in the 12 day war multiply that 10
20 or 30 fold then what
The same way a toddler does if you break his toys.
More tantrums.
Jerry every naval officer United States should be screaming about this. Our brothers and sisters in the navy and the air force are probably going to be injured and killed for power hungry greedy jerks in the regime. The Iranians have rockets drones submarines and missiles that are going to hurt and kill our brothers and sisters. The weaklings occupying the white house should go sign up. It is obvious none of those cowards would sign up.
The only two that served in military are Gabbard and Hegseth and they should be yelling at the doomsday makers I. The regime
In the regime they should push for no war but they will not
Didn’t the VP also serve?
Correct I forgot that Vance was a photographer or journalist in the Marines thank you for the correction
to join the us military is to be a huge supporter of war mongering genocidal maniacs since at least indochina. or one is a nihilist and just doesn’t care about anything in life.
True, but most 17-18 year olds are too young and inexperienced to comprehend that. Their families should tell them not to join.
Probably just a distraction, meanwhile one of the Fed Chairs (Neel Kashkari) concerned that the Fed could shrink the balance sheet. (Who will buy our bonds if we don’t)
Kashkari is the jackass that pushed for 6 months more of covid lock downs to get the monetary system under control. Covid was a federal reserve scam. Drop this clown off in Iran. War is here and now you want to shrink the balance sheet what a joke. This country is huge flaming pile of s***.
Right As COVID Plandemic Hit 2019 – FED Prints Trillion$$.!
Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein – Revealed Empty Fort Knox.!
No ‘Audit’ Of Ft Knox Gold Reserves Yet.!
When you put it into perspective it doesn’t matter whether there’s any gold in Fort Knox or if it’s all just gold-plated twinkies. The 8,000 tons the US claims to have in gold reserves will pay for exactly 9 weeks of the US budget.
The Houthis chased out the USN from the Red Sea. Iran will sink a couple of ships faster than the Houthis. Aircraft carrier groups are the 21st century battleships: ineffective, juicy targets.
Scott Ritter thinks a sunk aircraft carrier would bring about an American nuclear response. Scott can be a little excitable, though.
That’d be plausible, especially the current Pedophile in Chief.
I wouldn’t be upset if we lost a carrier or two. We’re going to pay for it anyway. At least they couldn’t be used for any more trouble making.
And everyone on board is an enabler who volunteered. So no Fs given.
Everyone on board is a mercenary, but I wouldn’t wish anyone’s death. May they all find lifeboats and find rescue, very likely from Iran.
The way I look at it, they are getting sunk sooner or later the way we resort to bully tactics instead of diplomacy. I’d rather Iran sink them than have them sunk by China. That would definitely result in nuclear exchange.
Considering the Houthis depend on Iran to supply the rockets and missiles that have struck multiple ships as well as Saudi Arabia, Israel and Egypt you make a good argument to attack Iran.
It’s a low probability that Iran will sink a US aircraft carrier but a much higher probability that they sink or damage a support ship or three. Then things will get really interesting
Since Congress is too flaccid to act, we know this will secure our status as pariah nation.
I think it would be funny, but kinds, if Iran succeeded in taking out an aircraft carrier. Of course that would be a cause for extended war, just like the Maine.
It might also be a little sobering. Maybe you don’t casually park $10 billion in a hostile area unless it’s worth the loss. But some tyrants can’t cope with that
Senator Mitch McConnell Let It Slip – Getting Rid Of Our ‘Old’ Weapons – So We Can Get ‘New’ Weapons.!
Get Ready For A – False Flag – To Kick The War Off.!
One of the Iranian leaders actually joked about that yesterday.
How come we always end up with John McCaine no matter who we vote for?
In January the Doomsday clock moved 85 seconds to midnight, closest its ever been.
Time to stock up on iodine and unalive pills.
Well said!
Yes, iodine for the children.
Spoiler: If you need to take iodine to live, the world will be so FUBAR that 99% of all humans will be better off dead. Without their two dollars.
The use of iodine is temporary, until the radioactive winds die down.
And mostly for children’s use.
Only congress can declare war the regime occupying the white house lies. If Iran is attacked by our military our constitution requires a declaration of war by congress. That being said I am against it we should mind our own business.
Our Congress is flaccidly playing with themselves
They are busy with the Epstein coverup…
Get Ready For A – False Flag Attack – To Kick The War Off.!
That Will Bypass Congress.!
Your constitution is a bit of toilet paper.
Look at all the failures to uphold it. 60,000 plus laws ignore the 2nd A, only gold and silver as money, the TSA stop, question and searching people and their property. So if congress does or doesn’t declare war is so 1941 in thinking.
1/ Where is Congress in all this? 2/ No boots on the ground means no control of events
Constitution says only congress can declare war why don’t they get to Washington and stop this dumb war of choice
The constitution says nothing. It’s a mute piece of paper, It’s the congressmen who should give it voice. Alas…
Did you ever read it? I have and I said congress should go to. Washington and vote on it ASAP!
Both Parties Are Two Wings of the Same Bird – Headed by
The CIA/Mossad MIC Warmonger$$$.!
Someday someone’s going to float a nuke up the Potomac. The US is too dangerous to the world to let it run unchecked.
Not this week. It’s too full of shit, literally
From dookies to nukies… it can take but mere moments. Was that the flush button or the nuclear button we just pressed, I can’t recall?
A nuke up the Potomac will have the same effect as 9/11 did.
It did not and will not end the United States meddling in world affairs. Instead it simply turned that meddling up to 11 and you can bet if a nuke did go off, a whole lot of countries around the world would soon be irradiated in response.
A big enough nuke would take out Langley, Foggy Bottom and the Pentagram. Enough of the decision makers would be vaporized to make any response delayed if not scuttled. And floating it up the Potomac would make it harder to know who’d been behind it.
I hope this war doesn’t start but the reality is the market was already forecasting oil supply cuts. The option premiums on oil companies and oil ETFs were through the roof a while back and I posted comments here noting it. I was banking good coin selling call options on my holdings.
If war is averted, I will buy them back cheap and pocket profits.
If war isn’t averted, I will sell higher and pocket profits.
Will collect dividends while I wait for the outcome.
By the way, gold (GLD) and silver (SLV) call options toward the end of the year are rising to very juicy levels so something is cooking there as well. I might bite.
Blue Owl Capital halts redemptions. Is this the first domino to fall in private equity that loaned out money to software companies, commercial real estate and other industries in trouble?
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/19/blue-owl-private-debt-investor-loan-liquidity-restriction-market-shares.html
Also saw a headline that Schwab was cutting fees on private equity.
All starting to look like that Lehman moment back in 2008
What Iran’s Naval Exercise With China And Russia In The Strait Of Hormuz Actually Means
https://www.twz.com/news-features/what-irans-naval-exercise-with-china-and-russia-in-the-strait-of-hormuz-actually-means
They can call it “The War on Epstein” or “The Epstein War” or something like that
Can’t spell Epstein War without Iran
_PST__N
Pat, I’d like to solve the puzzle …
he wants to start a war for the midterms so he can be a wartime president and if you don’t support the presidents party during wartime you are unpatriotic.
that’s what this is.
Agree, and I think he wants Epstein and his other disasters out of the headlines. But I don’t think attacking Iran will play well for him. Americans don’t want it and they don’t want to be beholden to Israeli interests any longer as well.
Well said but the files are out and the israelis should not get our money for their war machine
That ol’ rally around the flag thing won’t work this time. I suspect Trump knows that and that he’s more afraid of something Israel has on him (Epstein related probably) or that he’ll meet JFK’s fate if he doesn’t do what Netanyahu wants.
That will backfire but that is part of the regimes schemes plus oil and taking orders from the crooked genocide regime of netenyahoo
Like Palestine. If you are against genocide then you hate Jews.
I’ve always been against genocide. My opinion on Jews and the Israeli state will remain undeclared
39% of American Jews themselves believe that Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, so somehow we are supposed to believe a huge chunk of American Jews are antisemitic against themselves, or something
They’re trying to save themselves. Should have spoken up a couple decades ago. Too late.
Unhinged that
Yep, Usonians can’t see a boot that they wouldn’t grovel to lick.
Yep – They Are Already In Trouble For The
‘Mid-terms’ – Due To The Loss In Texas.!
Senator John Thune Is Now Calling For The Full
Release Of the ‘Epstein’ Files – Senate Majority Leader.!
The Pressure Is Building Against Trump – Republicans Turning Against Him As Mid-Terms Near.!
GOP’s New Fear: Losing Not Only The House – But The Senate Too In November After Texas Loss.!
Imagine what a sucker your downvoter is to be able to bring themselves to click that down vote button.
I believe in President Trump as a peacemaker, and there is no way he’s going to start a new war. No way. LOL
Consider this. He’s going to start a war and then he’s going to end a war and then he’s going to threaten to invade Norway if he doesn’t get his Nobel Peace prize
WMD in 2002 was my barometer for all the morons in pax dumbfuckistan. all the Repugs in congress and half the dimocrats. same as it ever was. democracy works perfectly. warmongering assholes elect warmongering assholes.
amerikans are 98% nihilists. easily proved. the voters of the warmongering uniparty for the past 128 years. happens in world history.
They are accessories to the crimes of their state.
All of this because Israel have blackmail videos and pictures that they can release of US politicians and elites abusing children. America is occupied. Crazy times!
Lots of GOP voters are helping keep their political overlords and the billionaire class safe, at their own material expense. Can’t make up fiction like that, everyone would call you an idiot for merely presenting that premise.
None of these measures could have been possible without bipartisan support as AIPAC donations confirm.
I don’t know what the President and Israel could possibly know about the Mullah’s and the IRGC and Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthi’s that would cause us to resort to violence. Such fine people. Just leave them alone with their peaceful nuclear program. Why worry?
Let’s just add a few more names to the “Crazies with nuclear weapons list”:
Starmer, Macron and Xi look positively sane in that company.
Pakistan looks like a credentialed psychotherapist next to that group
They all refuse to be dominated by the US?
Iran should have gotten nukes years ago. They wouldn’t be facing this threat now.
We trade with India, Israel and Pakistan and leave N. Korea alone. Iraq and Libya did not acquire nukes. The lesson is clear.
If we leave them alone and mind our own business then they are not our problem we should stop funding the israeli war mongers
At least Iran enriches its own uranium. Israel STOLE their uranium from the NUMEC plant in the mid 1960s. What’s interesting is that Dimona was a heavy water reactor that did not need enriched uranium. I think plutonium production at Dimona was delayed and Plan B was to have Hiroshima-type uranium bombs that did not require testing to have on standby in the Sinai in case of an Egyptian counterattack or a Soviet intervention. If the Israelis feared that the USS Liberty (stationed just off the Sinai coast) intercepted signals intelligence about these weapons would they go as far as to try to sink it? Nah, they’re our greatest ally.
The U.S. is operating in tandem with Israeli interests, which have involved intense, ongoing military actions against Iranian proxies & facilities (which includes nuclear) according to the NYT. And curbing the China-Russia-Iran alliance by damaging Tehran. Concurrently issuiing heavy sanctions & high tariffs against those countries tradiing with Iran. We reflect back to May 2018 when Trump withdrew the U.S. from the joint Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA).
pro tip. israel is the amerikan empires’ colony and bitch in a strategic location, surrounded by billions of christians and muslims that despise them. perfect, useful idiots.
It might have started off that way, but it seems the tail started wagging the dog around 1963. The Israelis like to act like they’re still just a colony.
how about we just call them our most important of our 51 states
You probably need to consider the relationship that Trump has through Epstein to Israel. I would not be surprised if they have something on him.
Israel & Russia are the only countries he isn’t openly attacking. They must have something on him personally.
The White House is compromised
By Way of Deception – Thou Shalt Do War” – Victor Ostrovsky, Ex-Mossad Agent, Translated the Motto
Israel Is An Aircraft Carrier/Beach Head in the Middle East For NATO – Robert F. Kennedy Jr
Hamas Was Created by Israeli and US Intelligence Services to Counteract Yasser Arafat – Ron Paul
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas.”
Benjamin Netanyahu (2019)
“In the visible dimension Hamas is an enemy, in the hidden dimension it is an ally.” – IDF Major General Gershon Hacohen (2019)
“Israel started Hamas. It was a project of Shin Bet.”
– Charles Freeman, US diplomat and ambassador (2006)
aye aye
They will use Syrian airbases as forward bases
The US is run by an evil group of omnicidal criminals drunk on their own hubris. They don’t even pretend anymore to have an excuse to blow countries up at the bidding of their puppet masters. Here are twenty minutes of truth bombs, with some relevant history lessons, by Prof. Jeffrey Sachs: https://www.youtube.com/live/s-iCpXrdJ7g. I’m feeling pretty good about my oil investments; but not very good about being able to enjoy the profits.
Tick…tock…
Feel exactly the same way, I hate all this warmongering but nothing I can do except profit from the situation and do some good with it in my own way.
It’s also why I have an exit strategy, can’t be a part of this endless evil anymore.
NIHILISM to a tee. sorry. no personal offense. the amerikan way since 1898. we have been voting for nonstop world wide warfare. but it’s all ok as we can make money off it.
Nah, since 1776.
true. but that triggers too many. i’m kind.
Whatever label you wish to put on it, it accurately describes observable reality.
Perhaps you should sell before they spike higher. Then you won’t have to enjoy your guilt- ridden profits.
Trump specifically said, on TV, that the air attack last year completely destroyed Iran’s nuclear program. So how can Iran give up a nuclear program that no longer exists?
Because Trump is not full of shit, right?
Right?
Restarting it…
If it can be restarted at any time then it’s impossible to stop Iran’s nuclear program isn’t it? Unless the plan is to wipe out every person living in Iran at which point, every nation better start their own nuclear program or face the same fate.
Ironic isn’t it?
It doesn’t work that way. They can still be doing things, like uranium enrichment, without the vast tunnels, and all the resources they had that were destroyed. They are simply saying, that if you start it up again, we will bomb it and every bit of parcel of land you can do it on, and again and again, if you keep trying to create a nuclear weapon, briefcase or otherwise…
You can’t keep bombing again and again, this activity costs money, resources, time and eventually human life on all sides. At some point, even you will figure this out.
Correct. That’s why this time it will be regime change to someone who doesn’t want to pursue enriching Uranium.
And when exactly has that worked out anywhere?
I didn’t say it was going to work out.
I’m just saying that repeatedly bombing them costs money as you pointed out.
Regime change while unlikely to work out at least has a chance however small. Hence why it will be pursued.
Syria, Libya and Iraq are shambles of what they were. But they dohave American/Israeli approved dictators. No democracy but ruins and ok for us.
How’s Germany Doing?
You have to take the chance, as we just did in Venezuela. Good generally wins over evil, IF given the opportunity imo. This allows that to perhaps work out without death and destruction…
Texas Tim answered your question perfectly.
If we can’t stop them, as You Claim and don’t feel like getting nuked in the foreseeable future, then eliminate the source, and find someone else to take over. Under Your scenario they are leaving us No Choice, or one could simply say We Die, but not sure when, it’s not up to us apparently.
The other solution, is to force change, if possible, like in Venezuela, and try to Peacefully Work Together, with the new Regime. That or bombing becomes the only answer then… Or we die but don’t know when…
Well the Israelis systematically assassinate every Iranian nuclear scientist.
Which ones, and how many, and Whom did it directly, and why?
Looks like Stu Pid got his marching orders and has moved past the “confused” stage
Mysteriously he has once again come down to supporting Trump
Just curious what’s next? He’s been unpredictable for sure…
So unfortunate.
Trump does as instructed by the gangster state on the Mediterranean.
Yupp he is their puppet! And they laugh at the fat old ugly clown after using him but the unfunny part is we pay $ and people are going to die for that gangster state
We’ll see how it actually plays out.
(The fat old ugly clown comment is pure TDS though.)
Actually I do not have tds I am not a democrat but I am independent and noticing u do not dispute that the occupant of the white house is a fat old ugly clown and those are his good points!
If Trump would stop acting like a puppet and a clown then we would not call him a puppet and a clown.
However, Trump dances like a monkey on a string.
FFS – I hope you (America) are doing this on your own. There was talk of using RAF bases in Cyprus and refuelling assets….I hope not.
Also assume that you are up for housing all the refugees when chaos breaks out.
It will be sold to the British like this:
Let us use your bases and refueling assets and it will be over fast with few refugees and American help for those there are. Refuse access and when it takes longer we’ll not lift a finger to help with refugees.
Lol. Is the US helping with refugees anywhere under Trump?
If Israel told Trump to take in Palestinian refugees to remove them from proximity to Israel, he would do it and easily sell the shit sandwich to MAGA as necessary for peace and stability in the middle east and the security of our little buddy.
Yeah starmer whom thru Jeremy Corbin out of the labor party is a man of peace haha! He is in on it a real meally mouthed politician
Not one Nato country dares to say no to Trump especially the UK. No Degaulles present in Europe now.
Nobody will ask the uk.
His reasons can be no more clear: MONEY BEING SPENT ON MIC.
The “reasons” are secondary and meaningless. ALL of these entanglements feature a blatant lack of a clear goal.
to spend trillions so nihilist oligarchs can syphon those trillions back to themeselves. in uniparty MICC