France is in shock over weekend riots.
What Happened
Senseless destruction of historic buildings, businesses, and schools came to a head on Saturday throughout France. Up to 800,000 people were involved in protests throughout France.
The protests started with students upset over classroom size, lack of teachers, and buildings in need of repairs.
Students blockaded hundreds of schools and set fire to, or damaged, at least 24 of them. Thousands of students have been arrested since September. Over 1,000 police officers, students and school staff have been hurt.
The students were joined by unions, radical Left rioters, and opportunistic looters to break into businesses and steal what they can.
Some historic building have been heavily damaged by arson. Here are some takes from the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Twitter.
Huge Riots and Anti-Government Protests Roil France
The New York Times reports Huge Riots and Anti-Government Protests Roil France
France is reeling from its largest unrest in years, after anti-government demonstrations devolved into riots and looting that caused nationwide damage and deepened a sense of national reckoning.
As the chaos subsided on Sunday, political leaders blamed each other for the unrest and citizens looked on with shock at their cities, littered with broken glass and the charred skeletons of burned cars.
The violence marked a convergence between a weeks-old student movement for better school conditions, an emerging national movement to protest high living costs, and opportunistic rioters who used the demonstrations as a cover for looting.
The protests have heightened a sense of fiscal and social crisis in France, the European Union’s second-largest economy. The government is trying to pass an unpopular belt-tightening budget while facing public anger that has helped position Marine Le Pen, a far-right leader, as the favorite to win the presidency in an election next spring.
More than half a million people joined some 110 marches throughout France on Saturday, the interior ministry said, in the biggest day of protest since the demonstrations began about a month ago. A major union, the C.G.T., gave a higher estimate, saying 800,000 protesters had turned out.
Amid many peaceful demonstrations, rioters vandalized roughly 1,500 shops and many symbols of the French state, leading to roughly 2,000 arrests. An arson attack largely destroyed the town hall in Limoges, in central France. In Marseille, the second-largest city, masked people broke into a government building and tipped over a bust of Marianne, a symbol of the Republic.
Destructive Protests Sweep Across France
The Washington Post reports Destructive Protests Sweep Across France, with Buildings Burned and Hundreds Detained.
Violence and destruction swept across France late Saturday as protests over rising living costs, educational conditions and proposed budget cuts erupted into looting, arson and widespread mayhem.
As public anger boiled over, more than half a million people took to the streets in cities from Lille in the north to Marseille in the south, as well as in Paris, the capital. At least 1,800 people were detained and 150 police officers and gendarmes were injured, authorities said.
On Sunday morning, people awoke to images of littered streets and wrecked government buildings, the most shocking being the charred shell of the historic town hall in Limoges, which was consumed by fire with its spire collapsing into bright orange flames in the night.
The unrest follows weeks of mostly student-led protests, some also involving violence and vandalism, which have accelerated with the support of labor unions and other groups protesting the policies of President Emmanuel Macron’s government.
Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu blamed “far-left groups” for Saturday’s violence in several cities, adding that “criminals have joined in to loot and destroy.”
Lecornu told reporters that the government would not be “intimidated” and accused the “ultraleft ” of stoking violence ahead of a presidential election next year. “There is obviously a political battle to wage,” Lecornu said, adding that France was at a “point of no return.”
Le Pen Chimes In
Le Pen Translation
Loot, ransack, destroy, attack law enforcement: the rioters have once again poisoned the October 17 demonstrations in defense of purchasing power.
Legitimate social demands have once again been held hostage by the far left and the speeches of Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s deputies, who, by legitimizing violence, viewing order as oppression and disorder as a right, seek to plunge the country into chaos.
Faced with this incendiary strategy, the French people, who can no longer bear being caught between the austerity and fiscal hammering of those in power and the insurrectionary activists, must hold out for a few more months.
We will free them from Macronist toxic policies and protect them from the violence of the far left.
Huge Riots in France Prompt Shock and Blame Game
Also consider Huge Riots in France Prompt Shock and Blame Game
France was in a state of shock on Sunday, as citizens walked through streets lined with shattered storefronts, charred cars and burned-out government buildings after the country’s largest demonstrations in years devolved into riots and looting.
The unrest on Saturday — which led to some 2,000 arrests — caused widespread damage to several symbols of the state, including a 19th-century city hall in Limoges, a town in central France renowned for its porcelain, that was largely destroyed in a nighttime arson attack. More than 600 police officers were injured, Laurent Nuñez, France’s interior minister, said on social media on Sunday.
Rioters attacked city halls from Lille in northern France to Marseille in the south, where they broke into the local government headquarters and tipped over a bust of Marianne, a symbol of the French Republic. A fire also destroyed a tourist office in Lyon, and 1,500 shops were damaged or looted nationwide, according to Alexandre Bompard, head of the French federation of commerce and distribution, who estimated that the cost of repairs could run into hundreds of millions of dollars.
“I’ve never seen this before, I am disgusted,” said Sophie Vanpoperinghe, 47, as she gazed at ransacked shops on Boulevard Magenta, the road in Paris where she has lived for 22 years and which is frequently used for demonstrations.
“It feels like society is spinning out of control,” said Henri Parent, 56, a tourist from Belgium who was surveying broken storefronts in central Paris on Sunday morning.
That’s a free link with many shocking images of the widespread destruction, fires, and looting.
Videos do a much better job than words or links. Please watch this one.
Massive Riots in Marseille
Footage from Central Paris
The historic Limoges town hall has just completely collapsed after far-left rioters set it on fire It was built in 1876. It survived World Wars. It did not survive modern France.
Morons cheered.
“Stop, This Isn’t the Cause”
An Amazing Police Scene in Paris
This is another must see clip.
Comment of the Day
Paris looks like a war zone. What is the cause? The cost of living? Mass immigration? A mismanaged economy? Excessive spending on war? A crisis of political legitimacy caused by an unaccountable elite? Europe will likely be a very different place 10 years from now.
Le Pen’s Fiscal Plan for France Cannot Possibly Work
On October 8, 2026, I commented Le Pen’s Fiscal Plan for France Cannot Possibly Work, Will Voter’s Care?
No one ever cares about fiscal sanity in France or the US.
They all lie about growth, taxes, revenue, wars, and everything else.
France has gotten away with flouting EU budget rules but Greece didn’t. The reason is France is France. More accurately France is too big to bail.
But the EU has no love affair with Le Pen, so the crisis will surely come to a head in 2027, one way or another, no matter who wins.
French Budget Deficit Explodes Into a Major Debt Crisis and Riots
On October 7, 2026, I commented French Budget Deficit Explodes Into a Major Debt Crisis and Riots
The welfare state in France is coming unglued. An EU-wide crisis is coming.
Marine Le Pen, the far-right candidate who is leading in the polls, has vowed to push France’s age of retirement as low as 60 years old, a measure she says would cost the state an extra 9 billion euros (about $10.1 billion) a year.
Her closest rival in the polls, far-left leader Jean-Luc Mélenchon, wants the European Central Bank to freeze or wipe away the French bond holdings of the Bank of France, a sum worth 488 billion euros.
“Throw it in the fire,” Mélenchon quipped.
“Throw it in the Fire”
And they did, literally, just not in the sense Mélenchon wanted.
I suspect this seals the next French election. Support for the far Left is going to collapse.
France vows ‘massive’ security operation involving military forces for expected weekend protests
THE Uneducated do not understand that Islam is first a political cult wanting world domination like the natzies. They use religion as a cover for brainwashing and propaganda. The West has been battling this cult for thousands of years. If a muslim follows strictly the Quran they are a terrorist. France is an example of what the Democrats want for America
All religions are pretty much the same in that regard. Read Joseph Campbell on the subject.
More specifically, Who would Jesus kill?
Trying a new spin to see if it will take only 1 in 3 students. Others are …..”Russian”,,,,,
Haha William nazis you misspelled it and you are educated and the democrats here in the US my country are corporatists generally. We have the uniparty. Note most of the demonstrators or protesters in France were peaceful. Me I belong to no party and what is happening in France and the rest of Europe is none of our business we have many problems here. We should also end all the wars we are in and bring our troops home now. The rest of your opinions are quite ludicrous and you are a know nothing
Nedd like most libtards name calling is all you have. Facts allude you.
Peaceful is Bull Sh#t —The police in France will need to use buckshot to end the Islamist riots and looting shortly–Then deportations—Thank God for Trump and ELON stopping the traitor Democrats in America with their illegal immigration for developing a voter base
Actually I am not in any party I ain’t liberal but elon should be deported
Why are you so obsessed with France and are you a fascist or a nazi
Buckshot? Haha your are probably a cuck and u r so tough haha what an ignoramus why not birds hot?
Birdshot
The BBC is being flamed for calling the riots engulfing France “mostly peaceful,” while airing footage of masked looters torching cars and clashing with cops.
BLM with a flair…
The argument becomes increasing gray as to which group fought for a better future for France, the French Resistance or SS Charlemagne. There’s always been a strong case for the former, but as each year goes by the case becomes increasingly strong for the latter.
Marine Le Pen will be allowed to govern, as long as she first shows signs of being “tamed” with regards to foreign policy [the need to support the America organized war at the Eastern Front].
It’s just freedom of speech.
The right of peaceful assembly and giving voice to grievances.
Actually, it’s their way of applying to be sent to the Eastern Front to defend the traditions of European civilization and the values of the Enlightenment.
Pretend that this were happening in Russia, Iran or any other country that the Empire doesn’t like.
The rioters would be called “freedom fighters” and would get non-stop wall-to-wall fawning coverage.
Exactly right, the Empire and the MSM have one set of terms for what we are and do, and another set of terms for what those we oppose are and do.
US (THEM)
Democracy (Dictatorship)
Government (Regime)
Allies (Proxies)
Foreign Aid (State Sponsor of Terror)
Free Press (State Propaganda)
Reasonable (Crazy)
Free (Oppressed)
Independent (Puppet)
Liberators (Invaders)
Freedom Fighter (Terrorist)
This is your open border future when the Democrat party recaptures the House and Senate. Or should I say, the Immigrants First party, because at this point, that is fundamentally what it has become.
The Southern border has been wide open since the Alamo.
You are delusional. The Democrats proposed immigration reform and the Republicans blocked the legislation so they could market a problem.
I am imagining if the citizens of france had rifles. Some militia-adjacent type commented that it is impossible to tyrannize citizens armed with rifles.
Afghanistan would indicate that there may be some truth in this.
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” Attributed to Thomas Jefferson
What about when the majority of citizens fear the violent minority of citizens?
If you hate police, try living in a world without them…
This is the observable evidence that the european union experiment is in the middle to late stages of winding down. No nations come to the aid of the other because each nation member is responsible for the fauliures caused by collective governance with lack of accountability. There is only the state to blame… and now it is being blamed by everyonei….including those in runnining it. The European Union has suceeded in detroyong what once was…. but didn’t hve a replacement blueprint with any kind of foundation based in logic and sound reason.
—————————————————————————–simply put
*There is no sound reason that the European Union should or can continue, so it is falling to pieces in the abscence of not having one.
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Nobody of influence and authority wants to see the end of the eu. Therefore it will continue.
So billions of Euros for Ukraine and nothing for your own people isn’t as popular as expected?
Ukraine will get more. The citizens of france will not. They will not be happy. Nobody of influence and authority cares what the peons want.
On many occasions the current crop of leaders have voiced the sentiment: Voters be damned, we are on the right side of history and will continue NATO’s fight against Russia regardless.
Cmon, Bridgette! Slug Macroleon in the other eye!
JUBILEE. i’ve been saying this for years. it’s not an if. it is just a when.
The latest western plutocratic “free market” system(post WW2) is finally on its last legs. In every “developed” country, the wealth inequality is unsustainable and the bill is ultimately on the public balance sheet. Arguing about right vs. left is for distracted citizens who haven’t thought it through. The whole model is broken and nobody has an answer for how to effectively have reset/ jubilee (see babylonians). So preach whatever gospel u subscribe too, it’ll make you feel better (left vs right). But remember this is about materialism and power, the two defining attributes of “modern life”. Too bad its a dead end as currently practiced, since humans haven’t invented the economic system to make himan society socially and naturally stable – so the cycles of violence will continue , as they always have. No country is immune, especially with morons in charge
/rant off
CPC looking pretty good. They prioritize win-win trade instead of win-lose or lose-lose war. Competitive markets. They jail and execute white collar criminals before the serfs even need a Luigi. Their leaders are engineers not lawyers and bankers.
But they say politics is downstream of culture. Can a culture that revels in cruelty of “celebrity” chefs berating subordinates, “you’re fired”, “you are the weakest link”, or “survivor” produce something different than Genocide Joe or Genocide Don?
Near his EOL and to his credit, IIRC Jerry Springer publicly lamented his role in pandering to the lowest levels.
The Chinese government will murder or imprison you for dissent and erase history. Sounds great!
My hat goes off to France if they’re really dumb enough to elect the far right party after seeing what it did to the USA. Monkey see monkey blame brown man for his stupidity. Oldest trick in the book but it’s just so much easier than admitting you’re the problem!
“What do these Europeans think they’re doing, trying to bomb and destroy the Libyan State? There’s going to be floods of migrants out of Africa and jihadists into Europe.” Muammar Gaddafi 2011
Gaddafi possessed an acute awareness of France’s domestic vulnerabilities. During a 2007 visit to Paris, Gaddafi delivered a speech at UNESCO directly targeting France’s ethnically diverse suburbs (banlieues): [1]
His comments, originally responding to the 2005 French riots, foreshadowed the recurring, explosive structural tensions between French police and immigrant youths in the suburbs—a cycle of unrest that continues to dominate French politics. [1]
As far as the west is concerned, the blowback is worth it, as long as their enemies are hurt in the process.
France has a lot of stupid, frightened, hateful people. I could see them going hard right.
If the progressive liberal left elite has degraded society to this point, what choice do the people have? More of the same? Road to ruin.
And what has the righteous shining right done for us here in america?
Nobody is on your side, and it cringe that you think they are.
I do not live in America and I do not have a side. Too many cluless like ypu.
You’re welcome for the lesson.
One of those 1970’s-type dictators like Franco or Tito.
There is nothing but controlled opposition everywhere, unless the opposition still meets in a basement. So, dont worry about them stopping the oceania forever war against eurasia. They will simple play up the racism and make some token arrestsof immigrants. After gaining some tiny political capital from that, they’ll invade or escalate another Muslim country. No, maybe back to the Sahel states or adjacent, as revenge for them daring to ruin the CFA!
Anyway, trust me, nothing exciting… /s
It’s all the same party, the Epstein party!
This should be what the US looks like in response to Trump. But Americans are gutless sheep.
Les poules rentrent au poulailler.
Diversity is France’s strength just imagine how strong it will be in another decade.
LOL!
In 1789 the French King was forced (by the Nobility) to convene a “Trois Etats-Generale” due unhappiness with Royal Debts. In the past the “Noble Estate” combined with the “Church Estate” to impose higher taxes on the Commoners to deal with Royal profligacy. Not this time. By this time the Commoners had read Rousseau and Voltaire, and after taking the Bastille they imposed their own National Assembly of the People with elected delegates. Needless to say, a whole new system of taxation was put in place.
The point here is that with France in the eighteenth century, Revolution started over elites’ concerns about debt and taxes and ended up being overthrown altogether. Elites didn’t understand the powder keg that was France.
Today the leadership class seems similarly clueless. It has been putting the squeeze on basic social services like education to deal with its budget problems. France has little room to raise taxes without upsetting France’s competitive position in the EU. Under the EU structure, a country in this position must severely curtail social spending much more, as was done with Greece. The pre-EU remedies of devaluation and capital controls are no longer available. The French gave up economic sovereignty when they joined the Euro. Under the banner of “freedom”, free movement of capital and labor within the EU was a major coup of capital over labor. Now the wealthier countries of Europe are seeing the result.
Germany and Britain have similar problems. There is less of a tradition of taking to the streets in those countries, but I’d guess the discontent is running just as deeply there, especially in Germany, where Merz’s popularity is even lower than Macron’s.
Perhaps France’s street protests will spread to those countries as well if governing elites continue to ignore the economic pressures on the bottom half of the population. Much of Europe’s economic pain now is due to the U.S. and its sanctions against Russia and Iran; the consequent energy inflation; closure of the Strait of Hormuz; and higher global interest rates. I suspect people understand this, but the leaders of Europe act like they have no agency, mere vassals of the U.S.
The attitude of the leadership class in Europe and the U.S. towards the working classes seems reminiscent of Marie Antoinette’s: let them eat cake.
In short, things would rapidly improve in Europe and the U.S. with an end to Russian sanctions and the Iran war.
Meanwhile, this November’s elections may bring about a change in Congress. Sadly, nothing will change about these global problems if the Democrats don’t throw in the towel on American exceptionalism, support for Israel, hawkish foreign policy over diplomacy, wasteful defense spending, and Russophobia. This was the foreign policy under Biden, Schumer and Pelosi as it is under Trump.
The US elites and their european catamites smell blood and are not going to let anything get in their way.
Unlike the boot licking thank you for your service wusses stateside, the French people know how to make the state tremble.
Congratulation, Zalensky!
War is almost over.
War backers are collapsing one after another.
Who did Ukraine invade?
Ukraine tried to invade Donbass twice, and got their asses kicked for their troubles.
Gee, if only there were agreements Ukraine could have reached, say at Minsk….
The agreements they were forced to make after Russia invaded them the first time?
They weren’t forced to make them but they had lost a war. There was no “Russian invasion” unless Russia toppled the Ukrainian military without air support.
In fact, Poroshenko, Hollande and Merkel all admitted that Minsk and Minsk-2 were a sham and that neither Ukraine nor its western guarantors ever intended to abide by any of them.
How is ‘because they lost a war’ not forced?
A war that Ukraine started. I remember when they sent the 24th para brigade into Donetsk to “fight Russians”. They found a bunch of local militias, ended up giving away their equipment to the militias. There was actually video footage of a couple of locals doing donuts with a BMP.
Civil war. Between the Ukrainian Army reconstituted from gangs of football hooligans and Nazi skinheads against the units in the East that defected to the side of the ‘Separatists’. who voted for independence, not recognizing the unconstitutional Banderite putsch regime in Kiev.
? Agreement
Minsk2 was ratified as UN Security Resolution 2202, which makes it International Law.
The self-same principle these hypocrites keep bleating about.
They literally invaded Kursk in Russia, same as your Nazi heroes. Same outcome.
Why is the French military in Saudi Arabia? The war is in France.
A big thank you to John McCain and Obama’s Arab Spring. The bills have come due.
I believe it is the fuel crisis which is destabilizing the economy of France.
It seems to me Trump’s unilateral Iran war is the biggest obvious proximate cause of the collapse of order in the Middle East at the moment. Israel also has been crossing borders and rearranging furniture an awful lot over there lately.
Credit to George W. Bush for an optional war of choice, knocking pieces out of the convenient pre-existing standoff around Iran’s western border, in the name of rapidly rewriting the economies and cultures of the entire Middle East. A Neo-Con Neo-Crusade for sure. But yeah, plenty of idealistic meddling.
Yeah, the effect on people’s budgets is going to push a lot of them over the hedge they’ve been walking since covid.
Get your respirator and slingshot now and avoid the rush.
To create more refugees that want to go to France.
The french military is in Saudi Arabia to keep the Americans happy.
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE do not have a lot of muslim immigration. Why is that? Because they do not accept immigrants from “politically unstable” communities. In other words, they are not stupid, and therefore don’t import more muslim clans to compete with established ones. Make no mistake, muslim’s prioritize strength of the tight-knit personal clan (zero sum competitive game), while the west has traditionally focused on generating prosperity accross the entire community (constant growth). These worldviews are fundamentally incompatible.
almost half the population in saudi arabia is muslim immigrants from poorer muslim nations from south asia/south east asia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Saudi_Arabia
Almost all the Saudi immigrants are temporary workers, kept separated from Saudi society. Essentially all immigrants (aka “temporary” workers) are forced to live in either labor camps or gated compounds. Saudi Arabia historically does not offer permanent residency or citizenship through routine migration. I’m talking about citizenship, not transient population. The Vision 2030 initiative is trying to make changes, but it is ongoing.
PS Wikipedia is not a great source of information.
PS Wikipedia is not a great source of information. Neither is AI.
So you are saying that the vast majority of immigrants do, in fact, mingle freely as an integrated part of Saudi society? Do tell! Boy, do I want to hear this story!
One often sees servants and prostitutes mingling with their Saudi betters. It’s a melting pot society.
They almost always give them their passports back.
Whats your source?
The EU should follow Saudi Arabia’s example, and keep the illegals locked-down/separated from EU society. Again, Saudi Arabia is not stupid when dealing with non-vetted outsiders, especially the muslim ones coming from a clan-based worldview.
Doesn’t matter what their legal status is – those immigrants are there and Saudi Arabia and the gulfie tyrannies are entirely dependent upon them.
What a relief! Such indentured serfs have never rebelled against their masters. No, dear sir.
Europeans liked cheap servants. Not so cheap, it turns out.
Media selling the disgruntled student narrative “for the children” minimizing camera coverage of said students which quickly dispels that narrative or creates cognitive dissonance. On a side note it is getting colder in France 42 degrees as I type.
Right, now the yellow vests and other working class groups are involved. This is larger than just far left or students or whatever.
I think you put your finger on it. It isn’t just the immigrants or the schoolkids.
Corruption and stupidity in authority eventually leads to its own overthrow. As I keep saying, it’s the priesthood (people who live by telling lies) who are doing it. They consist of the teachers, the journalists, and the judiciary. Not all of these people are intelligent by any means, and some of them do no doubt quite sincerely believe their own nonsense.
If you leave the sexual nonsense (women’s lib and so on) and the race nonsense (racial equality) out of it, the money nonsense (fiat money – money that has no value except that the government says it is money) on its own is bad enough. I don’t suppose we will get out of it now without a highly authoritarian government and much suffering, but a stable money would go a long way towards getting the horrors over with quickly.
I don’t blame the kids who are rioting and burning, by the way. Just as with the environmentalist nonsense (another kind, promoted by the priesthood, that I forgot to mention above), why wouldn’t you riot if you thought that the world was ending and that those in authority were doing nothing about it. I blame the people who told the lies to the kids. Unfortunately there are so many of them, and they are mostly so very very stupid, that I don’t see any way out of it except something like what General Franco imposed in Spain.
Maybe we shall all have to suck up to the Catholic priesthood again, just as they had to in Spain after Franco drove out the Communists.
Tell me about the shining future that awaits these miscreants if they only come around to your way of thinking?
With our government mismanagement exacerbated by essentially free money to borrow having come to an end, I expect similar discontent in the US next summer as the economy, jobs, general availability of goods and services are likely to be much less than the citizenry expects. Constricted economy will mean less tax revenue and more stress on federal state and local governments, also making it more difficult for the federal level to pawn responsibilities down the line. The huge debt run up over the last 30 to 40 years has brought forth a lot of economic activity that must at least in part be normalized in the correction process that is incrementally hindered by ever increasing debt service costs. Huge borrowing by government and the tech sector for AI buildouts, impeding trade with tariffs and torn up trade agreements, all the wars, or cash handouts if they were to materialize are not helping to solve the problem.
What a mess.
“I expect similar discontent in the US next summer as the economy,”
I doubt it. France’s population is relatively homogeneous and densely populated when compared to the US. Most Americans identify more with Musk and Hollywood stars than their fellow American. They live in their cell-phones and worship the police ( why else do we have so many cop tv-dramas?) and have been programmed to blame themselves over their leaders. Americans are largely a nation of sheep, not the iconic tough guys of John Wayne lore. Why aren’t the MAGA republicans rioting over Trump’s attack on Iran? Because they are sheep.
I discovered that France recently banned cell phones in schools and perhaps the French kids are rioting due to withdrawal from their matrix simulation.
Some people believe that, but I’m working class in the service industry dealing with many, many “peons”, myself being one of them.
A surprising number of people see that the system is bullshit, but they are so tired and still need time to recuperate from work, that they can’t get to the streets. Wage-slaverly is a vicious cycle that I’m sure is harmful to our health.
I assume as the job market collapses from AI, people will be hitting the streets.
THe number of cop-TV dramas is simply what those in power decide we watch. I doubt cop-tv dramas are the most popular stuff on user created content systems, i.e. youtube ticktok and whatever else.
I think the cop-tv situation is actually government propaganda. Luckily newer generations aren’t watching that boomer medium.
Good thoughts. I am of the opinion right or wrong that France is populated with two major population divisions; have and have nots which is a lot of the motivation for riots now as it is folks wanting more from government, the French culture and the middle east culture from the European open border experiment. That plus the lack of any progress on the political economic front should keep it hot for a while.
In our country, I foresee the drivers potentially being as described my post above and hatred for law enforcement, ICE in particular but also any overzealous enforcement potentially like the George Floyed as an example. Any politician even floating the idea of cutting spending on some pet even not so pet project could also ignite violence. I believe our citizens as a whole are not particularly tolerant of having government services cut back even though that will become inevitable by either our choice or market considerations. The one budget item that congress has no direct control of is the interest on the debt and it is turning hockey stick on a chart.
They banned cell phones in schools in North Dakota, but I have seen relatively few serious riots.
I was being facetious. But France did ban cell phones in schools this year.
Yes, Americans are “sheep”, compared to other folk in the world.
But they also like their property values, and their comforts. Rioting damages those.
That’s a pretty solid hypothesis… apps hook straight into your dopamine system. They have probably been addicted all their lives, and get damn cranky when denied.
ICE ?
BLM riots ?
As in France, with prepositioned pallets of riot ordinance
see the link for more on that “France’s population is relatively homogeneous” statement:
France, Italy and… Poland in [Market-Ticker-Nad]
Some truth to that. In most western countries post-WWII, there was an unspoken deal. Work moderately hard, play be the rules that matter, and you will lead a fairly comfortable life (especially if you happened to be white). Not only that, but your children have a decent shot at a more comfortable life than what you had.
For better or worse, that deal is breaking down. The only thing that hard work and following rules will get you is old. Meanwhile, The Epstein Class live lives of sybaritic luxury that would make Caligula or Elagabalus think that was over the top, and they flaunt their exalted status and immunity to any law with total impunity.
That was appeasement of war hardened men, who’d have the means and knowledge to upset the turn of the century Epstein class.
It was fear of communism that caused the elites to offer a better deal.
Now that there is no competing system, the elites want to renegotiate.
This is the preview of global debt crisis.
Over 40 years global bond yields have been dropping and ended with negative
interest rate in 2020.
Every countries enjoyed the dropping bond yields. The more you take debt and
the less interest they paid.
Then the countries especially Western countries including US caught off guard
after 2020 when bond yields rise up. That is paradigm shift.
Now rising inflation, bond yields and weaker economy especially in Western world.
Welcome GLOBAL STAGFLATION !
More unrest, More riots.
Debt has reached its limit.
You have enjoyed best part of the world for 40 years.
Now prepare for the worst part of the world.
Lets blame each others.
We have a problem… the problem is us.
No matter where we go, there we are.
Debt is a secondary result.
The primary is the displacement of the original population by an unruly dependency class. All the grievances are excuses. It’s the dissolution of anything resembling a nation, a coherent society, a shared culture.
Milan, Lisbon protests are happening. It’s a networked world. Let’s see if righties counter-protest. Party like it’s 1923.
The narrative of this just being the far left is false. It’s populists, working class people and young people. I don’t think Mish is right about this automatically helping the right. After the unrest of the blm movement in the US, Biden took the white house. It’s not so cut and dry, especially not now that populist labor is getting involved.
Well it seems inflation and debt is a world problem. I wonder how much of the trouble is stirred up by russia.
It was a joke, right?
Not really the world is swimming in debt. The internationals ive talked to over the last five or so years have the same problems with affordability as the us. That’s coming from people wealthy enough to travel.
Secondly russia cyber operations are stirring up disinformation from the us to Moldova. Not a far stretch to think they would be operating in france. .
Moldova’s a bullshit country.
Once upon a time, not so long ago, any development that the establishment of the day didn’t like could automatically be blamed on Jews.
Crops failed? Because Jews.
Freak storm sank the royal fleet? Everyone knows that Jews not only hate us because we are so noble and kind, Jews also can control the weather.
Foreign invasion? Machinations of Jews.
King’s eldest son and heir turns out to be a rather flamboyant and barely closeted homosexual? Jews, you silly goose!
No evidence needed. Because Jews. What, are you on their side?
Today’s establishment is far more enlightened. They do not blame unwanted election results and social dissension on Jews. Instead, they blame Russia.
Everyone knows that Russia has secret powers of psychic mind control, but that the Establishment is immune.
There is always someone somewhere pulling the strings to get people to do what benefits the string puller. Look who stands to benefit / follow the money. I would not be surprised if there are some paid string pullers on this site
Assume facts not in evidence, much?
If Russia has these incredible and undetectable powers of manipulation, why isn’t Stoli the best-selling beverage in the land, drunk at breakfast, lunch and dinner by every red-blooded American man, woman and child and touted by brainwashed doctors.
“‘T’s gota ‘lectrolytes!“
‘France, truly, is on the brink’ and just days away from a make-or-break moment in its debt crisis, analyst warns, as protests turn into riots‘France, truly, is on the brink’ and days away from a make-or-break moment in its debt crisis | Fortune
Cutting spending works so well.
I do wonder what the 80 million boomers will do when social security benefits get cut out of the pending insolvency right around the corner. They’ll be too old to riot but will they march with their walkers on D.C? Or will we just hear stories of dead boomer discovered 4 months after dying alone over and over again?
I doubt younger generations will get worked up on their behalf. The VA budget may get cut too because despite all the rhetoric, no one in politics really cares about the troops.
It’s going to be a sad day for those left behind…
Most of “the troops” now in VA care foolishly volunteered despite decades of evidence that all the wars the US fought in since the beginning of the 20th century were based on lies.
They fucked up. They trusted the US government.
Maybe this will discourage future enlistments.
Nice homage to the Animal House quote
Applies to Ukraine, too.
Boomers are still too big of a reliable voting block for politicians to ignore. The Uniparty politicians will fall over themselves to save Social Security at current levels. It’s not like anyone cares about the debt anyway, as increases in the war budget boom.
Once the trust fund is empty, if nothing at all is done to increase social security revenue, a beneficiary will still get 78% of their existing benefit. So if a person is $45,000 per year before the trust fined is exhausted, they will still get $35,100 per year.
Been full of IOUs for decades.
The trust fund is shrinking because the “IOUs” are shrinking. When the fund reaches a zero balance, all of money the Federal government owed to the trust fund, principal and interest, will have been paid off.
Correct and my guess is it won’t be equally cut across all levels of SS. Almost certainly there will be means testing or just those getting the biggest monthly checks will get the biggest haircut.
Have no idea what they will do.
They will absolutely fuck over all parties concerned.
…which will buy you a grand slam breakfast in 2035.
We have old people on the street already. We obviously are ok with it.
Or properly taxing the very wealthy.
If you cut support for the bottom you crime and a general collapse of society. Unless you can afford to live in a secure gated community with private armed security your a lot close to that bottom than you think.
Lets put this into perspective. Last year tesla paid no taxes. Not sure how much musk paid. But he is able to spend something like 336 million( close but don’t quote me) to get a criminal elected. There are 438 million citizens in the us.
Every jurisdiction would have to say yes at the same time to coordinated tax hikes. Good luck with that.
Populist movements have a funny way of making sure there’s no tall grass to hide in
The population of USA is 349,660,921 this Sunday … you socialists have issues with numbers.
You can tax your way out of this problem. Even at 100% tax rate.
There are too many promises that have been made and no way to keep them all. People are going to be taking hair cuts of some kind (working longer before retirement kicks in, reduced retirement benefits, reduced welfare benefits, reduced healthcare, affording less ‘stuff’ including vacations etc).
Exactly. The guy making $200000 is closer to the guy making $50000, but he votes like the guy who makes $2000000.
The majority of “protestors” are recent migrants.
Markets price France’s debt. Nobody prices its stewardship debt: thirty years of corrections the state should have made but didn’t. That debt sits on no balance sheet, and it compounds. Saturday was an interest payment. Notice who paid it. Not the people who got the promises. The people who will inherit them.
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It seems that the cultural collapse together with the financial crisis in France is just beginning … highly likely it will affect other countries in Europe …
Italians, Albanians, and Portuguese are having similar riots.
It won’t be long before they are rioting in the UK and Germany.
Belgians too.
There’s nothing more French than a revolution when heads literally roll.
Given French attitudes towards elitism and inequality, I suppose that France deserves a far-left government by a year from now. The workers seizing places-of-employment and ousting the owners and managers, etc. And many of those owners and managers fleeing the country to save their lives and “freedom” (from kidnapping for ransom).
Glenn Diesen is probably right “Europe will likely be a very different place 10 years from now.” And so seems is Greg Atkinson “”Europe is already now a very different place to what it was 10 years ago and not in a good way.” (Can the Fifth Republic survive long enough to match the Third Republic in duration? And beyond that?)
P.S. I expect that the French are per capita as wealthy as they will ever be, and are now headed downward in standard of living.
I suspect they were much wealthier 25 years ago around the year 2000 than they are now. By the time things get this bad, the peak hasn’t just crested, it’s fallen far enough that everyone is noticing.
Why are the police allowing this to happen? This is not a peaceful protest and they could stop it if they wanted to.
800,000 protesters vs may be 8000 riot police.
100 : 1
If protesters are violent they can’t be stopped.
Where is the army or national guard? We got them out for Minnesota.
TPTB thought they had it managed and it boiled over.
FWIW, diesel jut hit $6.89 at my benchmark station this morning which is ten cents higher than the last high…
What happened with tax relief and diesel from Russia? Trump happened, that’s what…
There were NO MAGA hats at the after church social and some damn grumpy hard core Trump supporters did not stay for the meal.
It is harvest time, so few farmers are hitting the cafe for coffee. In a couple of weeks I’ll get take their pulse as they try to sell the physical excess of their crop.
I do not row crop corn, soy or wheat so I store a few neighbors oversupply of corn in my silos and side loading leads this time of year. They all produced about three more bushels per acre over plan. NO idea when it will find a market… Just gotta keep it dry!
Fuel will plunge to 2.50 immediately after the election, but only if you vote for the Guardians Of Pedophiles.
So which is it gonna be, America? Cheap fuel and unprosecuted child rape, or expensive fuel and child rapists in jail?
Oh yeah, and the fuel might not get cheap until after may the first of the year, or within the first 2 weeks of January, for sure…
Oh My!
I was in France last year for what were described as huge protests and they were nothing like this. This is serious and scary! What a damn disaster!
France has recently announced military support for Saudi Arabia and they can not take care of their own educational system?
Let the two incompetent extremists flail and get some moderate candidates with a level of competence take the helm!
Radical activism does not solve anything. It only divides and destroys.
I doubt there are any political solutions to what’s happening.
Maybe it can be papered over for a brief time but it’s going to flare up again and again and get perpetually worse because the fundamental problems can’t be solved politically by anyone.
There are too many promises (early retirement, generous welfare, free health care etc) and not near enough resources (both in terms physical goods and human labor) to meet them all.
It will ultimately come for all the 1st world countries, it just came for France first.
Election? Really?
Good thing Charles Martel was “elected” 1300 years ago. /s
Did their military run out of Napoleon-flavored grapeshot?
Hopefully the price of a dozen eggs is reasonable there, as that is usually mentioned in the context of government stability here.
Trump’s Iran war is driving up diesel globally, everything dependent on that fuel will rise in cost over the next 12 to 18 months even if everything were magically solved today. Price of eggs may be down lately but it will soar right back up in due time.
“I love the inflation”. — Trump, June, 2026
He can say and do anything, and his minions will elect a Repub majority Senate. I can’t wait to see what the impending post-election Iran military action will do for prices. Katie Zacharia for SCOTUS!
As I stated before, people in France are rioting because of the failure of socialism in France and they want to elect right wing clowns. And people in America are seeking to elect socialist candidates after right wing clowns failed the American people.
See the pattern yet? Don’t worry, you’ll get a chance again a couple of weeks from now on election day and the subsequent 365 days that follow.
Got exit strategy? Obvious note: U.S. and France should be off your list. Probably scratch UK, Australia, Italy, and Portugal too for now anyway.
Anywhere in Europe should be 100% off your list unless your timeline is very short (10 years or less). In 20+ years most of the Europeans will have been replaced by immigrants (Muslims in France are 10% of the population but account for 40% of births) and what we are seeing in France will have been repeated everywhere.
Very similar, identical riots spread to Milan over the weekend. And, every in France knows Macron is a clown with less than 15% support, a drop of 7% in last two months.
How do you rate Turkmenistan as a retirement spot?
That country is fairly closed off to outsiders.
My nephew liked Moldova, when he visited.
He said the food was great – they have no food-processing industry – everything was home-cooked, or right off the farm.
Too bad it’s the matter of dispute between Romenia, Russia and the Ukraine.
On this planet, if you are not Larry Ellison, and maybe even if you are, there is no longer any refuge, despite the eternal fond fantasies of escape. No, we do not get “away clean.”
Gotta stand and fight for what we can. Push back to expand our little bubbles against the Stupidularity.
If you have money, its good whereever.
As european quality of life continues to deteriorate, there can be only one solution acceptable to the political classes:
Send more money to Ukraine, more war, more weapons.
And as American quality of life continues to deteriorate, there can be only one solution acceptable to the political classes:
Send more money to Israel, more war, more weapons….and feign outrage for the public.
Jan 6 vs the destruction in Europe right now. Give me a break. Here’s a report on damage inside the Capitol building:
“statues, murals and historic benches displayed the residue of various pepper sprays, tear gas and fire extinguishers deployed by mostly law enforcement personnel”
That and a few broken windows. Oh the horror! People were sitting in Congressional offices and taking pictures of themselves.
Turn on a TV and look what is happening in Europe, or keep your head buried in the sand. You’ll get what you deserve when your party reopens the border.
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The 6ers stopped after the military was called in. I’m not sure why France didn’t deploy the military to stop the rioting but I’m sure it has something to do with political gain for someone.
The politicians in Europe fear for their (family’s) lives. The illegals there don’t just threaten, they follow through.
You know it’s funny, actually absolutely not funny, but in the 30’s, Europe fragmented politically toward left and right like that, and then soon struck out to seize oil and grain through, guess where, Ukraine, against guess who, Russia.
I don’t think this is a question of resources.
This is a question of power. Nothing more.
So where does Europe get fuel? To this day, the same regions it did 90 years ago. Britain then had the Middle East oil locked up, but was cozy with France. Germany had no other options (a bit of oil in Romania), so it struck east and south. And this France situation now is most immediately an energy scarcity (price) crisis as much as anything else, driving everything domestically to zero sum. Students and retirees are how it trickles down. Hence the support for Saudi Arabia: the supply chain.
“Riot – A popular entertainment given to the military by innocent bystanders.”
― Ambrose Bierce
Hope taco’s proud boys don’t respond in a similar manner in a couple of weeks.
A bad and hysterical analogy maybe, but once the brown shirts did their prelude in the streets, the more professionalized men in black took over, and detention centers had already started construction. All that were needed were a couple of convenient pretextual national security threat-events to point to, for escalation.
mussolini thugs in 1920s were black shirts. his protege, hitler’s thugs in 1930s favored the brown shirts.
Welcome to the world of unvetted illegal immigration. When the Democrats own Congress again, you can bet your ass we’re going back to wide open borders. In fact, at this point, it’s the only guarantee you can count on concerning what the Democrat party will bring.
Yes, that’s exactly what the January 6’ers were, unvetted illegal immigrants tearing up the Congressional building and threatening to hang Pence.
Jan 6 vs the destruction in Europe right now. Give me a break. Here’s a report on damage inside the Capitol building:
“statues, murals and historic benches displayed the residue of various pepper sprays, tear gas and fire extinguishers deployed by mostly law enforcement personnel”
That and exactly 56 broken window panes. Oh the horror! People were sitting in Congressional offices and taking pictures of themselves.
Turn on a TV and look what is happening in Europe, or keep your head buried in the sand. You’ll get what you deserve when your party reopens the border.
“56 broken window panes”…
And 114 US Capitol police officers injured, but I guess they aren’t as important to note as the historic window panes
I’m already seeing the GOP ads in my area saying the GOP candidate supports law enforcement. I’m waiting for the Democrat ads asking where those GOP candidates were after Jan. 6, but American memories are short…
Symbolically, to me, the assault on our capital and institutions, abetted and then papered over by the departing and now-sitting president, so, also legally and institutionally, was 1000x worse than a few French department stores being burned or looted. Trivializing it as a few windows, as if windows anywhere, being broken, is straight up demagoguery.
Well with estimated half a billion firearms in USA they certainly were not watering the tree of liberty so pretty peaceful.
From my monthly visits to ranges, maybe only 10% practice regularly. The rest will probably lose a finger or an eye trying to fire their pistol from the attic or basement.
Oh totally. They were there to overthrow the government!!!!! 😱😱😱😱
All those white Boomers who were actively encouraged by undercover FBI agents and informants,waived past barricades by Capitol Hill police. We all know white people know how to riot. Blacks have nothing on whites in this regard.
And then they put their feet up on Nancy “We have to pass the bill to find out what is in it” Piglosi’s desk. 👀👀👀👀👀👀 Democracy almost died right there you guys!
You sound worked up. Has it been a while since your last profitgasm?
No, the Jan. 6 peeps and their promoters knew exactly what they were doing when they rioted in democratically-controlled DC.
Try doing the same thing in my GOP-controlled stand-your-ground state. Shout you’re going to kill or hang someone, charge at them or carry anything menacingly that can hurt someone, and you can be shot on sight. If no one collects your rioting body from the front yard before trash day, you can be escorted out with the leaf collection truck.
No one would even question the shooter when the film was shown. Lucky old, white Jan. 6 boomers!
maybe his escape plan was to one of the french towns torn up. my immediate family was in paris when the downtown was torn up about 15 years ago. the riot police locked up the dance clubs as fanciest part of paris was getting destroyed…….
Reminds me of the USA Krystal-Nacht of 2020
sold to the people as the Floyd Riots
Always reason(s) behind the excuses and distraction(s)
and those who swore to protect, are making excuses on TV
for the problems they in part or whole, created
Unhinged to compare the Floyd protests (which wouldn’t have been anything if people weren’t locked up with COVID) to krystalnacht