When Yapping No Longer Works

Message of the Day

New York Fed President John Williams Says the “Central Bank is Listening to the Market“, and everyone else too.

“We are listening very carefully to what’s happening in markets for two reasons. One is financial conditions have [an] important influence on [the] economic outlook,” Williams said on “Squawk on the Street ” in an interview with CNBC’s Steve Liesman. “Second, I think we are hearing something important from markets, and that is a concern risk to the economy and potential further slowdown than we currently expect in our base case.”

It’s not just looking at the “hard GDP data” or “CPI data,” he added. “We’re listening to the message of the market.”

He said Friday that this week’s rate increase was “fully justified and makes sense,” but he added the Fed is open to reconsidering its views on rate hikes next year. Stocks rose sharply during Friday’s interview, but then faded.

Implied Message

The implied message was that the Fed would not let the stock market decline, or if it did, the Fed would adjust policy.

Fed Listening

The Fed is listening, to everything. What a hoot. The market does not believe the Fed’s implied message and neither do I.

This is another one of those “Too Late To Matter” concepts: Too Late To Matter: Fed-Sponsored Economic Bust Coming No Matter What.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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Mish
Mish
7 years ago

“s&p trailing p/e is now down to about 18”
Smoothed PE is 26.75

shamrock
shamrock
7 years ago

s&p trailing p/e is now down to about 18.

KidHorn
KidHorn
7 years ago

I have money in the stock market and have lost some the past few weeks, but I’m all in favor of raising rates. Any part of the economy that can’t handle interest rates of say 5%, is trash and needs to go away. Get rid of the cancer and let some real organic growth commence.

blacklisted
blacklisted
7 years ago

Raising rates is ALL about saving pensions (or delaying the inevitable), period! This of course is going to blow up the balance sheets of the foreign entities holding mountains of dollar-based debts! The mere fact NO ONE in the MSM brings up the pension problem, tells you all you need to know.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
7 years ago
Reply to  blacklisted

It’s WAAAAY too late for “higher rates” to save grossly under-funded pension plans. And the real kick in the face is that these idiots are now exposed to the stock market and losing their shirts. It’s OVER.

hmk
hmk
7 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

As long as the tyrants can tax you they will try to do as much as they can get away with until the yellow vests come out. Good thing, for the tyrants France has such stringent gun control.

blacklisted
blacklisted
7 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

I should have said “try to save pensions”, which is why I said delay the inevitable. hmk has got it right, except in the US tax payers can first leave high tax states before they need to don the yellow vest. Tax havens like FL are 1-2 elections away from voting in a Socialist, but the financial reset and popping of the socialist debt bubble will make their efforts literally worthless.

FelixMish
FelixMish
7 years ago
Reply to  blacklisted

@Blacklisted It might be interesting to know what percentage of pension fund money is in – what? – new bonds that take on new, higher interest rates, and what percentage is in stocks.

It seems more like stocks are the new, inflation-proof “money.” Watch for the idea to be floated of eliminating capital gains on stocks. That would essentially convert stocks to “money”.

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