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Who Benefits From Money Printing?

https://twitter.com/Nakadai_mon/status/1442004110534922248

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  1. “Let’s start with the Fed and inequality. I don’t think there is any greater engine of inequality than the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States the last 11 years.”
  2. “Hearing the chairman [Jerome Powell] talk about visiting homeless shelters is very, very rich indeed.”
  3. “Why are we making money? Because this guy is printing like there is no tomorrow.”
  4. “The kids in Harlem are not benefitting from money printing but Stan Druckenmiller is.”
  5. “For the life of me I can’t figure out why the left is so excited by the money printing, when all the data says that people that benefit from money printing are rich people that know how to navigate the markets.”
  6. The odds on bet is we are going to have inflation, and inflation is going to hurt poor people a lot more than rich people.”
  7. How does this thing end? To me, the asset bubble which he is blowing up to unbelievable proportions before the inflation ever really manifests itself.
  8. “We’ve never had a deflationary bust because inflation was too close to zero or 1.5 instead of 2. We’ve had them because we’ve had these tremendous asset bubbles. There is no group that will get hurt more than the poor. They will be first in line to be screwed. Trust me.” 

That’s a more colorful explanation  for the one I have presented for years.

Inflation benefits those with first access to money: The banks, the already wealthy, and the connected political class.

Point number 7 is the “transitory” case as discussed here:

MishTalk TV Episode #1: Is Inflation Transitory or Not?

The bursting of bubbles is not inflationary.

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amalagoli
amalagoli
4 years ago
This is so lame. All of a sudden money printing is a problem of the left, when republicans not only printed money, but they have given huge tax cuts to the rich? He is talking only now because he is afraid of the tax increases on rich folks like him.
At least the left is considering a fiscal program that will benefit regular folks.
Mike 2112
Mike 2112
4 years ago
Reply to  amalagoli
So money printing is OK if it’s for Social Justice purposes?
And it’s funny that you think the rich are going to pay much more in taxes. AOC and Bernie, etc exist not to take on the rich for you but to control you at the behest of the rich.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  amalagoli
“He is talking only now because he is afraid of the tax increases on rich folks like him.
At least the left is considering a fiscal program that will benefit regular folks.”
I read recently that Nancy Pelosi is estimated to be worth some 110 million dollars. How does that benefit you?
Bronco
Bronco
4 years ago
“The bursting of bubbles is not inflationary.”
Absolutely.
What is coming will surprise MANY.
Druckenenmiller is late to the game.  I recall him excited the night DJT won the election saying he was buying equities (a good call) but also saying 10 yr yield going to 6% (totally clueless).
TheWindowCleaner
TheWindowCleaner
4 years ago
Private banking creates upward of 97% of our money with loans that create deposits…so how many times do libertarians want to whip  the “money printing” dead steed??? The problem is PRIVATE debt NOT GOV. DEBT!!! C’mon Mish you said over 10 years ago you learned that lesson from Steve Keen. The deepest problem that even Keen doesn’t see is the monopolistic paradigm of Debt Only that needs the new paradigm of Gifting strategically implemented at retail sale with a 50% discount/rebate policy so as to benefit all economic agents individual and commercial. New paradigms change the character of entire patterns. They’re not just reforms or de-forms. Libs and conservatives/libertarians will get the best of the separate agendas implemented with the 50% discount/rebate at retail sale. Libs get more economic democracy but have to give up almost all re-distributive taxation and conservatives/libertarians get beneficial price deflation and tax reduction but have to give up monetary austerity. 
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“The problem is PRIVATE debt NOT GOV. DEBT!!!”
Not according to Martin Armstrong.
It is the Biden administration that wants banks to report any transaction over $600, to the government. Why should the government want to know, unless it is the government that has a debt problem?
TheWindowCleaner
TheWindowCleaner
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
First of all Martin Armstrong is nuts. Secondly,  Private debt is what saps the economy’s strength and dynamism. To wrap one’s mind around a paradigm change they have to be able to think outside of their current political and economic orthodoxies and that goes for all three of democrat, republican and libertarian.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
It is Illinois government that is failing, deep in debt and over taxing the workers in the state. It is Medicare that is about to empty the trust fund.
Martin Armstrong is right.
dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
I dunno about anyone else, but I certainly benefitted from all the money printing last year.I and my wife combined bring home around 70k so we are middle middle class.  We used the 20k the government handed out to our family (We have 3 kids, so lots of goodies came our way).  HOw did we use it?  We bought another rental house that will generate 500 a month free cash flow each month for forever.  So we got a permanent gain from the money printing.  It’s overly simplistic to say that only the rich benefitted.  They benefitted the most because they have enough cash to overcome the hurdle of paying for basic life necessities and save all the extra they receive.  Anyone else who manages to invest in assets with free money will also gain.

The losers are those who spend it.  

So the real losers are those who do not invest in assets.

RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Klaus Schwab: you will own nothing and be happy.
Klaus plans to take your assets.
Bronco
Bronco
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Productive assets.  Yes.
Pet rocks, er coins (or other garbage) …
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
More money printing may be necessary if this storm takes the path of Sandy:
Hurricane Sam intensifies to Category 4 with 145-mph winds. Could it take Superstorm Sandy’s path?
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
All the money in the world can’t unload/distribute/warehouse/ship  the contents of  70 cargo ships off the coast of Caly.  We really need to rethink this shutdown/lock-down  paradigm that enhanced the fed’s bubbles.  Inflation squared .  Compound  inflation ? Santa will be putting carbon credits in the Christmas stockings /s
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  thimk
What shutdown or lockdown are you referring to ? I’ve been everywhere in California and everything is  open.  
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
Ya and Venice Beach finally got cleaned up. Maybe its just me but you don’t shutdown an economy .   
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
what the fed and government are doing is really sad.  do these guys not believe in karma?  do these guys think they will take their wealth and power beyond the grave?  do they think their descendants will somehow escape the negative consequences that their actions are causing for humanity?
Anon1970
Anon1970
4 years ago
The average person does not get to borrow at the Fed funds rate, or anything close to that. Two decades ago, the broker margin rates were much closer to the Fed funds rate even for modest accounts. Since the Great Recession, margin loans appear to have become a significant source of income for the brokerage firms even as stock commissions have gone down to zero at many firms.  
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Anon1970
Where can you find information on what hedge funds pay to borrow?
 I’m under the impression that right now the companies sucking up all the RE in fast-growing cities are paying perhaps 2% or more for 10 year money at 90% LTV. I can’t document that…it’s just hearsay, I’d love to hear from somebody who really knows.
I can get 30 year money for 3.4%  at 75% LTV on single family RE.
That’s actually competitive, but it creates an ROI projection that is significantly lower in the early years….it’s  more lucrative for the big players to hold properties for a shorter duration and flip more often, all other things being equal.
And THAT makes it harder for the small investor to flow cash because it drives up prices. As prices go up, cap rates go down.
Right now borrowing costs are great, but it’s hard to flow cash in these rapidly rising markets. Rents go up too,  but they tend to lag in rising markets, sometimes by years.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

You are competing against organizations for whom price and
ROI are not the principle concern. Their aim is to use paper assets to buy real
assets since they feel that paper assets are fictitious assets.
.They can barrow at negative rates thanks to the Central Banks which you cannot
do. In former times gold would have been attractive but now the only liquid
market that can absorb these massive sums of electronic money is real estate
worldwide. The US bond market has been tapped out and rates are negative.
Currently the money has been going into real estate because that is the deepest
market in the world. Either you play the speculation or you sit out this one.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago

“For the life of me I can’t figure out why the left is so excited by the money printing, when all the data says that people that benefit from money printing are rich people that know how to navigate the markets.

Because the left has political power when they can throw some bread and circus at the poor…….who have nothing……and can’t even see themselves ever having anything more than……. a phone, a used car, some clothes, enough cheap food to grow obese, and  a roof over their heads.

And dignity.

In essence, all the identity politics is about giving disenfranchised people their dignity back……and it sells pretty well to black and brown people and gays and all the other “special” people to whom the left wants to get to pull the lever……so the left-leaning  politicians can still profit from the money coming down from the real rich into their pockets.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
I expect CPI inflation to remain at 2% or better even after the bubbles pop. Real inflation will be 2% higher than that, because reality is that it’s needed as a tax to keep the system functioning at all.
 
The takeaway from Druckenmiller for the likes of us should be that we have to emulate (insofar as is possible)  what he does so we can keep up with the printing. Buy a basket of assets that can benefit from inflation (with the cheapest t borrowed money we can get, locked in for the long term) , while also holding tangible assets as a hedge against deflation.
I will hold the RE I own for now, which is a fairly resilient portfolio in the later stages of its cash flow performa…..to that I will add underpriced energy stocks in companies poised to benefit from carbon credits…and for the first time in five years, I will start to accumulate physical metals, which I think are also underpriced now.  And even though I don’t want to, I will keep a fairly high cash reserve…..to smooth out the bumps we all see coming.
Crypto is a harder call. It might do well in a crash, but I see no fundamental reason to hold it as a safe haven hedge. Way too risky. The Druckenmillers and other deep pockets can afford the risks, I cannot. It’s just a speculative asset..and I only have limited funds.
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
the fed is basically forcing everyone to the casino.  you either play or your chips become worthless over time.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
It’s simple.
Were the Bank to buy peaches or paint, it would benefit peach farmers & paint manufacture, but harm everyone else.
Were the Bank to buy assets, it would benefit asset owners but harm everyone else.
So who owns assets? Now you know who is on the receiving end of MMT order of magnitude welfare & largesse.
Why MMT order of magnitude?
Because there are no policy makers anywhere who actually espouse MMT, and if they did, it wouldn’t be true that 90% of the money is going to the canyons of Wall Street and the rest to income transfers.
rogoclub1
rogoclub1
4 years ago
Lotta great reads this week, Mish your crypto posts right on point🙏❣️
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  rogoclub1
Thanks!
caradoc-again
caradoc-again
4 years ago
Moral decay.
How does any society rectify that before going through a lot of pain to learn lessons?
No amount of tax, rate changes or big government will compensate for moral decay.
A benevolent dictator might just force it to occur.
The system is rotten to the core, too broke to fix as is.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
I would not start here but since we ARE here, stuck with the huge inequality caused by reckless money printing,  the only solution is to levy stiff wealth taxes on the super-rich and bring corporate tax revenues in line with the 1970s 3:1 individual:corporate revenue ratio (right now, it is 8:1).   This would mean corporate tax revenues going up from the current 212B to about 500B.  

Of course, it won’t happen because we have 2 right-wing parties running the show in DC.  

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Won’t happen because both parties are owned by the rich/special interests and benefit from rising stocks, not because they are right-wing.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
The policies they support to benefit the rich and the corporations are deregulation, tax cuts, privatization, “free” trade deals etc.  And they are all right-wing policies.  No true left-wing movement has ever supported any of those.   
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Castro was the richest man in Cuba.

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