A new AP-NORC polls shows nearly two out of three Democrats want Biden to exit the race.
AP-NORC Poll
Please consider a new AP-NORC Poll on Democrat Voter Preferences.
Nearly two-thirds of Democrats say President Joe Biden should withdraw from the presidential race and let his party nominate a different candidate, according to a new poll, sharply undercutting his post-debate claim that “average Democrats” are still with him even if some “big names” are turning on him.
The new survey by the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, conducted as Biden works to salvage his candidacy two weeks after his debate flop, also found that only about 3 in 10 Democrats are extremely or very confident that he has the mental capability to serve effectively as president, down slightly from 40% in an AP-NORC poll in February.
The findings underscore the challenges the 81-year-old president faces as he tries to silence calls from within his own party to leave the race and tries to convince Democrats that he’s the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump. The poll was conducted mostly before Saturday’s assassination attempt on Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. It’s unclear whether the shooting influenced people’s views of Biden, but the small number of poll interviews completed after the shooting provided no early indication that his prospects improved.
About 6 in 10 Americans want Trump to withdraw — but relatively few Republicans are in that camp.
As for Biden, younger Democrats are especially likely to want to see him bow out – and to say they’re dissatisfied with him. Three-quarters of Democrats under the age of 45 want Biden to drop out, compared to about 6 in 10 of those who are older.
D.N.C. Aims to Push Biden Toward Nomination Next Week
The Democratic convention starts on Monday, Aug. 19, and runs through Thursday, Aug. 22.
Biden rates to be the official nominee long before then. The DNC rules committee meets July 21 and well before the convention, Biden will be the official nominee.
The New York Times reports D.N.C. Aims to Push Biden Toward Nomination Next Week
Leaders of the Democratic National Committee are moving swiftly to confirm President Biden as his party’s presidential nominee by the end of July, according to four people briefed on the matter who insisted on anonymity to discuss the sensitive deliberations.
The move would formalize Mr. Biden as the nominee at a moment when Democrats are torn over whether he should run again after his poor debate performance.
The process will effectively begin when the rules committee of the Democratic National Convention meets on a video call at 11 a.m. on Friday, followed by another party group on Sunday. All of the more than 4,000 delegates are expected to begin casting their ballots as soon as Monday, a process that is likely to take about a week. After that, the committee is expected to quickly hold the roll call, a tradition that typically occurs on the convention floor but is being held virtually this year.
The roll call process was planned long ago because of an Ohio requirement to have nominees by August 7 but Ohio changed its law.
There is no need for the DNC to meet early, but it will do so anyway.
House Democrats Warn DNC
The Hill reports House Democrats Warn DNC Against Moving Ahead with Virtual Roll Call to Nominate Biden
Members are circulating a letter to the DNC, which was obtained by The Hill, arguing it is “a terrible idea” to take an “unnecessary and unprecedented” roll-call vote, contending that it could “deeply undermine the morale and unity of Democrats … at the worst possible time.”
“There is no legal justification for this extraordinary and unprecedented action, which would effectively accelerate the nomination process by nearly a month,” the letter read, adding that the justification for the virtual roll call is no longer “valid.”
The members also noted that Biden has said to members of Congress in recent days that if a Democrat wants to challenge his nomination, they can do so at the convention. [That was a lie because the convention will be too late, by weeks].
Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.), who is signing the letter, told The Hill in a brief interview that a “substantial number” of lawmakers are supportive of the effort. “They should do the right thing and pull down this dumb idea instead of accelerating the nomination by a full month,” he said.
It’s the Plan, Stupid!
My theory, but I have not yet found a single person who agrees, is that Biden (rather Biden’s handlers), want Biden to hang on until the DNC makes Biden the official nominee.
As discussed above, that will be before the end of the month. As soon as that happens, it kills an open convention and make it impossible for anyone other than Kamala Harris to become the nominee.
Understanding the Goal
If the real goal is to make it 100 percent sure that Kamala is on the ticket avoiding a messy open convention, then everything makes sense.
For discussion, please see Is Biden Bluffing or Do Democrats Have a Defendable Strategy?
Is it possible Biden’s handlers know exactly what they are doing?
That is the key question. I propose Biden is out, but he does not know it yet. Here’s my scenario.
Defendable Strategy Theory
- Biden has no idea what he is doing.
- If Biden drops out now we would have an open convention, and possibly a destructive one.
- Whoever is really calling the shots wants Biden to hang on at least until the DNC makes Biden/Harris the official candidates.
- Once Biden/Harris is official, there is no chance of an open convention, and Harris is guaranteed to be on the ticket.
- If Biden then drops out, the DNC will make Harris the Presidential candidate.
Does anyone disagree with any of those points?
Assuming those points are well agreed with, it does not take that much of a leap of faith to see Biden dropping out sometime between the end of July and the start of the convention on August 19.
That gives Biden over two weeks to make a major flub, have a medical doctor confirm he is unfit, or most of the Democrats in Congress decide it is time for him to go and Biden finally relents.
Under this theory, Biden only needs to hang on until the end of July.
Difficult to Prove My Theory Correct
Curiously, it is difficult to prove my theory correct. Suppose everything happens as I suggest and Biden drops out after he is nominated later this month.
Was that the plan, or happenstance?
That’s another beauty of my theory. No one can prove it except those who won’t. How convenient is that?
If Biden lasts through the end of the live convention on August 22, my theory bites the dust.
However, Biden dropping out early does not disprove my theory. It only means events progressed passed Biden’s or his handlers ability to contain them,
Biden Seeks Supreme Court Term Limits, Medical Debt Cancellation, Rent Controls
Whoever is behind Biden’s campaign has gone completely mad. Is the goal to make Vance and Trump look like centrists?
Please note Biden Seeks Supreme Court Term Limits, Medical Debt Cancellation, Rent Controls
Whoever is calling the shots may be completely insane from one perspective, yet have a plan to dump Biden that makes sense. Isn’t that special?!
We will find out by August 22.
Would not at all be arbitrary if Biden drops out for medical reasons.
That is what he should do to help his party and that is what think he will do.
However, I prefer Biden hangs on, making my call wrong.
Stay the course Joe! don’t let the naysayers bring you down!
He-may-go-all-the-way!
Wasn’t the Robert Hur thing a prelude to pleading insanity when the Ukraine/SBF-FTX-DNC bribery/kickbacks- hit the fan? Z-y will testify to save his own @ss.
When he’s in Chicago, make sure to ride the Red Line L end-to-end a few laps each night. Invite some white suburban cul-de-sac box wine moms to join the party! Chuckles The Clown Schumer to grill for the tailgating festivities outside the United Center. Bring your barf bags.
Another scenario:
LOL. But Hillary is probably the best candidate the Dems could field. I don’t have confidence that she could beat Trump though. Maybe with Newsom as the VP?
Except she ALREADY lost to Trump in 2016! Why would this time be any different??
and all Biden wants is Ice Cream. it seems so unfair..Jill knows if he leaves the Oval Office, she has to be the one to change his diapers. She has a vested interest in her significant (ly older) other staying in government care, I mean the Oval Office.
The Presidential Puppet was warmly embraced until it was highlighted that a few strings had broken. A broken puppet! No one ever looked up to see whose hand was manipulating the strings. Now that some people are peering, the hand has taken out a pair of scissors (Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries).
Pelosi has apparently moved from pushing Biden to make a decision he already made, to actively pushing to get Biden to drop out. Corrupt Adam Schiff wants Corrupt Biden to drop out. Irony. Democrats are exposing just how much they hate democracy.
Jonathan Turley: “Georgia Democrats have joined counterparts in other states to prevent citizens from being able to vote third-party candidates.”
Why would Biden’s handlers want Harris out of all people to be on the ticket?
under federal election laws, she is the only one who can use the monies accumulated in his re-election campaign. its likely a ruse to later transfer the cash to someone else. perhaps she will be this new
candidates VP as well once the music stops and we see who is sitting in what chair and who is forced to leave the game.
It’s a not a large amount of money and Harris herself doesn’t get to throw a hissy fit and keep the money for her own use. It will have to either be returned to the donors or distributed some other way.
Regardless, there are plenty of Dem billionaires that could easily write a $250 million check and call it square.
its around 210 million, depending on your per annum wages, a lot of dough or peanuts. in political advertising and payoffs,its enough to put one over the line if you were a viable candidate of course…
Another source recalled something I’d forgotten (because I knew it was not gonna happen anyway): that Brandon said in 2020 that he’d be a transitional President and only have the job 4 years, suggesting at the same time, if I recall properly, that he’d be the last old white President and a young person of color would take his place. This was toward the end of the nationwide George Floyd Campaign Rally for Democracy (also known as the “Summer of Love” in Seattle’s CHOP zone).
Brandon’s reason for staying put comes down to more than his greedy stubbornness or his wife’s guile. Since its clear he doesn’t function as an executive, his cabinet is running the whole show without him, and they are having a great time of it. This is not something that can end. It reminds me of Dave (1993), a political comedy film directed by Ivan Reitman, starring Kevin Kline as Dave Kovic, a lookalike who becomes a stand-in for the President of the United States. The point of the film is that the cabinet runs the show and just needs a front man to capture all the photo flashes.
That’s Brandon’s job today. And its a part-time job at that.
A fine film indeed!!!
The position is a figurehead/PR man combination, regardless of who holds the title. The guy has the same 86,400 seconds in his day, as everyone else, can’t process all incoming data and steer the ship of state on his own. Others sort through information and decide what and how gets through to the capo, write the proposals, write the ”policies”, et cetera.
Jill knows most Doctors of Education don’t make the cover of Vogue, however 1st ladies certainly do. To be an old teacher married to a diaper wearing man of fading abilities, or to be the wife of the President. Women are by nature social climbers, they rarely climb downwards…
But who would want to sacrifice any future possible nomination by getting slapped by Trump in November? The Dems know it’s a lost cause.
How about this scenario:
Fun though it sounds, the people you’re theorizing about are cowards, not risk takers.
They are not cowards in the sense that you or I would use the word, they are backstabbing psychopaths that need you to beleive they are “normal” and not prone to violence and intrigue. They are only cowardly in revealing their intentions..
I think point 5 is where the theory breaks. Kamala is the kind of moron that lacks the self-awareness to know or acknowledge how stupid she actually is. This is a trait that is especially common in professional women who are coddled by the culture to believe in the myth of their own competence. These are the women most likely to complain about men and how they had to break down the glass ceiling and such nonsense.
this is precisely what makes her easy to manipulate by those around her. She is blinded and a prisoner of her blindness.
The powerful like that sort. Easy to use, easy to discard..
Your theory is possible, but I have trouble accepting that the Democrat back room wants Harris above all other possible candidates.
It seems almost all African Americans are in Biden’s court. The only logical reason is because Harris is in line to be the first black woman president when Biden is forced to retire.
Possibly. I never heard any black colleagues mention Kamala’s name — not once. I heard Obama’s name thrown about plenty of times around the rest lounge, but Kamala might as well not exist.
That was up until about 3 weeks ago. Then some in the black PTB started reminding people that when Biden steps aside, as it is inevitable that he will have to, even if he somehow wins the election, they then get a black woman president with zero work. Given her level of dumbness, she will be easily manipulated. National black reparations anyone?
its about the money. its election law, she has the biden/harris cash from donors and no one else, though Jill could fake the signature to transfer it to the DNC for the right amount of zero’s on a deposit in a foreign bank account.
Does anyone else see the D party’s current position as being a bit like when they were in the middle of their Iowa vote-counting fiasco? Sort of like watching Laurel and Hardy. Even the D comedians tell jokes and get laughs about themselves.
Buckle up, though. Demographics says incompetence will be the norm for some time. In the next few decades there will simply not be enough people to maintain the current standard of living, absent super-automation. I think the Earth and humanity will win the race of super-automation against population loss.
Just a few quick questions, to clarify things for me a bit. I can’t seem to come up with an adequate answer myself?
– How does one expect to be Nominated by their Party for anything, never mind the Presidency, when nearly two-thirds of said Party (of Democrats), say President Joe Biden should withdraw from the presidential race and let his party nominate a different candidate?
– How does one even come to the conclusion to run for the Presidency, when only around 3 in 10 of said Party (of Democrats) are confident that he has the mental capability to serve effectively as The President?
– Heap on top of all of that, a rather Bold and Stern Warning from the DNC, about having any “Virtual Roll Call” (For Joe) coming into consideration anytime soon…
Just curious…
It’s interesting that a (slim) majority of black dems still favor a rickety, demented, old white bigot to be their party’s candidate for prez, while a strong majority of the remaining dems want him out. What is this guy’s secret, anyway?
Name recognition.
The secret is Harris, a “black” woman, standing behind him and read to step into the job w/o the need for a messy election.
For starters, He rarely says the same thing twice. He tries really hard, but can’t seem to repeat the same verbiage, and often strays afar when trying to. Ironically, this doesn’t allow Him to be pinned down on any one topic. You say: He said Red! MSM say: He said Blue! When he actually said Both, but just at different times.
He also has the benefit of people feeling sorry for Him. Emotion in Politics is huge! Without even realizing it, his Medical Issues, whatever they may be, are in some cases helping him with bleeding hearts, elderly, TDS affected, and the likes…
He does have “Name” recognition, albeit mostly negative, but to those that just vote blindly, ignorantly, or by a name, He gets their vote. There is definitely something to be said for: All Press is Good Press, Good or Bad, and in His case, it’s saving him to still be a consideration by many in the Party…
and just like that
Covid Joe – now likely to …..
or was it assassination attempt
Biden has the covid, that he keeps taking shots to prevent him from getting. What it is the saying about repeating the same procedure and getting the same results?
covid is two weeks vacation from Chuck and Adam Schiff.
Exactly and Dr. Prescribed wink wink…
They are shooting him up with Plaxoid now.
I am unvaxxed and got Covid for the 2nd time in 2 years when I woke up the morning of July 4th. Had the usual symptoms. Tired, headache, mild cough, runny nose, mild elevated temp. Pretty much all cleared up now.
But if its a ruse, that could be long Covid, he could have to take a month or 2 off, SOrt of give President Harris a test drive, while they plot an exit strategy. Don’t expect this to be “normal” covid. I never thought i’d use the words normal and a bio engineered virus named Covid in the same sentence…..
Appointed under Trump, Dr. Redfield served as the CDC director under President Biden, who he claims insisted the health agency suppress data regarding adverse reactions to prevent vaccination hesitancy. “There was not appropriate transparency from the beginning about the potential side effects of these vaccines, and I do think there were inappropriate decisions by some to try to underreport any side effects because they argued that would make the public less likely to get vaccinated,” Redfield testified. The government KNEW that the vaccines were neither safe nor effective, as did the health agencies. Still, they insisted that the public take the experimental vaccine to participate in society.
Redfield is now stating that he believes the vaccine data should be released immediately rather than 2026. Whoever is president during the data dump will face the wrath of the public. The Food and Drug Administration still refuses to admit that the vaccine has potentially lethal side effects in order to continue persuading the public to undergo booster shots. “They never should have been mandated,” the former director said. “It should have been open to personal choice. They don’t prevent infection, they do have side effects.”
you don’t want people to be hesitant to take a vaccine that could kill them, just doesn’t make sense… CDC in bizarro world
If they are successful in starting WW3 before the convention, all bets are off
starting, i think you mean finishing. world war 3 has been running since 911, the battles are just spaced farther apart to keep the ratings up.
Adam Schiff, who impeached Trump, is trying to get rid of Biden. Biden will not quit before Bibi speech on July 24 thanking the US and Biden.
President Schiff has a ring to it…..Schiff/Harris the shining path to the future of safe tweets and comfy words. I’m certain he’s lobbying rather hard as I write these words.
Gamala attacked Vance. Trump is immune, at least for now.
but Biden’s immunity seems a bit comprimised.however….
Funny how there was so much talk about 25th’ing Trump and none about applying that amendment to get rid of Rigor Mortis. The Democrats are dumb bunch.
rules for thee and none for me. 1st plank of the Democratic Platform.
Biden diagnosed w/ Covid.
Right. On. Que.
Biden’s covid is timeout for two/three weeks.
So they’ve switched to plan C? They must feel they need to get the new guy in asap. And guess what, if a stray bullet were to “do him in” before November, that could and would be labeled as republican retaliation (Plan D).
no need for a bullet when a ventilator can easily make sure he can no longer be president. the magic of “medicine” in this brave new world. stay away from doctors if you treasure your health….
Jill could always time a shove just right, as Plan E?
she thinks she looks really good in black, a funeral of State, could be a great place to meet a new husband..
Diagnosed…. lol!
Does he wear a Triple next time on stage, or just a double face diaper? I go with the double, but I bet He really wants the triple…
scuba tank with ventilator, he’ll be subtitled which is an improvement cause nobody can understand him anyway..
no need to replace Joetato now…
Dems cannot win in Nov. – regardless of candidate/ticket… so let Biden take the loss.
it’s over.
They keep referring to recent polls suggesting the race is now tied. If they keep it up might give cover for making election scam night version 2 believable. Let’s hope not, but I’ve lost confidence.
You can do it Joe! Help improve America by losing to Trump in November – I’m rooting for you!
If it comes down to it, there is only one way that Biden/Harris can remain on the ticket and not lose – declare MARTIAL LAW!
You mean pull a Zelenskyy? Very likely now.
Z had a sugar Daddy, B only has a Dr.
A significant majority of NYT commenters are now calling for Biden to bow out.
Dementia Joe is the democratically elected candidate. His arbitrary replacement would be the end of democracy.
Would not at all be arbitrary if he drops out for medical reasons.
That is what he should do to help his party and that is what think he will do.
But I prefer he hang on, making my call wrong.
Joe stopped making decisions a long time ago. Now you have to figure out how Dr. Jill is feeling today, cause she’s the one in control of the Democratic Party at the moment.
Rigor Mortis should be 25th’d. His brain is like his 10pm snack…. a bowl of oatmeal.
You mean alphabet soup
Adam Schiff when public today, calling for Biden to step aside. This means Pelosi believes Biden has to go.
It’s incredible that after months of kangaroo court trials and even a failed hit on Trump that snipped a bit of his ear off, I feel the need to say this…strap in fellas, things are about to get REAL.
KlownWorld possesses infinite stupidity, the only thing you can count on for sure is you can’t count on anything for sure…
I have posted repeatedly that the plan has always been for Biden to bow out AFTER he wins the election and then elevates Harris to the job, because on her own, she has zero chance of ever getting elected. This is why all the black politicos and pundits are pushing for Biden to stay in the race. Of course, they need Biden to actually win and that is looking less likely daily.
So your plan might make more sense now. Unfortunately, having Harris at the top of the 2024 ticket is also a loser for the Dems.
If he hangs on, he won’t win.
The actuarial charts don’t lie. Joe’s in sad shape. His dementia walk is getting worse and he is surrounded by enablers unwilling to stop him from continuing to humiliate himself.
It doesn’t matter who they install to run now. The DNC is too toxic to win anything. They earned this. .
Remember that 40% of the country is blue no matter who. the next 10% can be bribed with one-time gifts. So they can and will continue to win elections even if they have “earned” all the disdain in the world.
Powerful Gods are his friends. I would be wise not to anger them.
Jill Biden will NEVER allow Kamala to be the Democrat President nominee. Joe is staying unless he drops dead.
He’s forgotten everything else — maybe he’s forgotten that he’s racist too.
Well, Trump is his VP.
Joe should stay.
To save the democracy!
home.
World.
With or without Biden, Trump will win and Republicans will control the house and the senate. Will be interesting to see what the dems do since they can’t jail him, can’t impeach him and can’t kill him.
far too cocky
Sounds like a big red wave to me. The predictors can’t keep being wrong about it materializing.
And sadly, the Republicans will not do a thing they claim to stand for, because, well, they’re IN now. Even Trump will not usher in a lick of needed austerity because that will make him “look bad” (even though it could make him look great in the eyes of history much…much later on). And I am an ardent Trump supporter, mind you.
the problem with the Republicans are they are not monolithic in thought or action.
The strength of the Republicans are they are not monolithic in thought or action.
see how that works??
He’s holding out for top dollar.
and a new corvette and a garage that can hold a lot more classified documents..
“If Biden then drops out, the DNC will make Harris the Presidential candidate.”
I wonder if the Congressional Black Caucus has reached the same conclusion and are lobbying Black Dems to push to keep Biden on the ticket? As the poll in your article shows most Black Dems want Biden to stay put.
Is the Congressional Black Caucus that organized and forward thinking? I see them as more reactive than proactive.
The black caucus is very well organized.
They are responsible for nominating Biden in 2020 when all appeared lost.
The problem is that handing someone (Kamala) something they haven’t earned (the nomination if Biden drops out) is not going to endear her to anyone or help her chances of winning the election. This is true of pretty much anything in real life, not just politics.
Winning an open convention is the only way you prove to everyone that you earned the nomination and deserve to be president if you beat Trump.
What percentage of the American population are “Karens?” Harris will get their votes.
President Z decides who runs anyway. There is not VOTE here.
Whatever you WANT to believe, you CAN believe this: THAT THE DNC, BIDEN, Harris and everyone else who are considered INSIDERS are ALL LYING to us.
The amazing thing about that poll is that THIRTY FIVE PERCENT want the Imbecile to REMAIN the candidate
What can one do with people who simply willfully fail to use REASON
That pretty much includes ALL Democrats and over half of Republicans as well
There are many possible outcomes over the final stretch of this Fourth Turning, but I fail to see at this time how we come out with SPRING a decade or so from now
At this point I would say literally all of the registered Democrat and Republican voters are brain dead as far as politics go.
you could have stopped at brain dead…and I’m a bit doubtful of independents and communists as well, as a matter of fact I think the whole reality has been manufactured to manipulate the unwary and the unlucky. Pity is we don’t get to chose the world we live in, but be aware and strive on and don’t rest your fortunes on your rulers for they are poor investments indeed.
I’m not much into the Fourth Turning mumbo-jumbo, but change is on the horizon.
Yes, 35% — all with TDS. They all need to go in and get their 5th or 6th Covid booster shot, that oughta lower the percentages a bit.
the fourth turning is simply demographics and economics transformed into a palatable read by categorizing things into easily understood memes, like Heroes, and Artists.
It has lots of underlying truth, but it cannot predict single events or people, only trends and timelines.
But the Republicans who want him to stay in are responding that way for tactical reasons, they’re assuming he’s the easiest to beat.
no they are assuming he’s toast, and his handlers are the ones that must be bested. Joe is no longer on the Chess board, they are chasing his shadow.
The way our election laws are structured, he is the only candidate to best, but he is not a true candidate, he is a construct of the people pulling the strings. This was obvious from the terrible campaign he ran last time. Its only now that his mental degeneration has progressed that it can no longer be hidden that the general population is noticing and allowed to talk about it in public.
There is a reason they want to eliminate online discussion, it makes it harder to control the story. The construct. The reality that they make for you to live in.
Nonsense. It is the height of hubris to expect that all reasonable people must agree with you.
Reason alone is insufficient. You need accurate input data (premises) to reach accurate conclusions. The media are actively denying people accurate data, so of course some of them are going to reach flawed conclusions.
And actually, even with identical premises, reasonable people can still reach different conclusions, because there is always a natural and fairly broad distribution of genetically and/or environmentally set value-preferences.
And even for people with identical preferences, there’s still going to be a range of opinions on a given issue depending on how the options impact them personally.
you are given the facts, and you are given a range of “proper” choices. Just as you are controlled by the language you are allowed to use, you are controlled by the stories you are told and the choices presented.
your life is lived in an Overton Window, and the view, to be humble, ain’t that great.
some of that support is a reflection of the strength of modern propaganda. Mass media and internets help it reverberate within their unthinking, mostly feeling minds. another bit is simply saboteurs, inflating the numbers to keep the quest through quicksand going until the supply lines can be cut as the party sinks into obscurity…
The other 35% want him to get electrocuted.
can’t harm a dead man, and when you mind goes, you are just walking meat to be totally honest. As terrible as it is to witness, if we live long enough we too will walk that path. I can’t blame Joe for the last 4 years, more likely Jill and the rest of the Maryland Mafia have been running things. The world is a cruel place and the irony is those who espouse compassion most, have the least of it.
The rose always has thorns. Beware the scent that beckons you, it isn’t random, it calls you for a reason. We are witnessing cracks in the deepstate, watch for rats scrambling out the holes..
The D dictators don’t care about polls and what people want.
They haven’t for a long time.
Hey Joe! I thought you said this was a Democracy? If 65% percent of the Democratic Party want you to shuffle on off to Buffalo, what gives?
I was going to say I just want him to shuffle off to Delaware. But no, I hope he stays because then Democrats should get destroyed this election and not just the white house.
Or, than can cheat like never before
Imagine he stays, and wins the election? Never say never.
I see dead people. And they vote Democrat
I think that the shit filter is full for most people now. If Joe “won”, the country would be in dire straights. Very bad. No one wants that. Anyhow, the Dems dysfunction is on full display, the final blow is inflation. Numbers going down lol. People don’t care. They care what milk, cereal eggs, rent etc cost and its a lot higher than when the Puppet was placed on the throne.
They should be forced to stick with him. The criminal cabal gets what they deserve.
There is less justice than mercy in this world, and mercy is very rare indeed.