Expletive-Laced Phone Call
Here are new details regarding an Expletive-Laced Phone Call between Kevin McCarthy and President Trump during the Capitol riots.
While the Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.
“Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.
A furious McCarthy told the then-President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, “Who the f–k do you think you are talking to?”
“He is not a blameless observer, he was rooting for them,” a Republican member of Congress said. “On January 13, Kevin McCarthy said on the floor of the House that the President bears responsibility and he does.”
What We Know About the Call
Similarly, the Wall Street Journal reports What We Know About McCarthy’s Call With Trump On Jan. 6.
“He’s getting reports of what is happening. He did not accept people doing this type of the behavior. I know he’s getting reports as well. I wanted to give him a first-hand report,” Mr. McCarthy told Fox News on Jan. 6.
The call got heated and at one point, Mr. McCarthy angrily retorted, “Who the f—- do you think you’re talking to?” according to a person familiar with the discussion.
Trump Did Not Try to Put Out Flames
The above call proves Trump Did Not Try to Put Out Flames.
Rep. Jamie Raskin (D., Md.), the lead House manager, pushed back on the Trump legal team’s arguments that senators should ignore the former president’s actions after the attack on the Capitol began.
“Senators, think about it for a second,” Mr. Raskin said. “Say you light a fire and you’re charged with arson. The defense counsel says, ‘Everything that I did after the fire started is irrelevant.’ And the court would reject that immediately and say that’s not true at all.”
“If you run over and try to put out the flames, if you call for help, a court could infer that you didn’t intend for the fire to be lit in the first place,” Mr. Raskin said. “They would accept your defense perhaps that it was all an accident. Accidents happen with fire. But if, on the other hand, when the fire erupts, you go and you pour more fuel on it, you stand by and you watch it gleefully, any reasonable person will infer that you not only intended the fire to start, but that once it got started and began to spread, you intended to continue to keep the fire going. And that’s exactly where we are, my friends.”
Can I Get a Witness?
Sadly, no, because a deal was reached to not call witnesses.
The Senate averted a drawn-out impeachment trial after Democrats and defense lawyers reached an agreement to not call witnesses, setting the stage for closing arguments and a final vote on the charge that former President Donald Trump incited an insurrection at the Capitol.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell told his GOP colleagues earlier on Saturday morning that he would vote to acquit, and many Republican and Democratic senators sitting as jurors have said they have largely made up their minds on how they will vote.
Rep. Jamie Raskin (D., Md.), the lead impeachment manager, reversed his earlier plan to call Ms. Herrera Beutler and instead read her statement [regarding the phone call] into evidence. The agreement averted a drawn-out process of calling witnesses and puts the trial back on track for a vote to convict or acquit as early as later today.
The phone call will be a matter of record, but most Republican, including Mitch McConnell just do not give a damn.
A friend of mind commented the Republicans would not have convicted Trump even if they got a hold of Pence, Pelosi, and McCarthy and hung them.
Won’t Matter?
My headline says this won’t matter. That statement pertains only the the impeachment process not courts of law or courts of public opinion.
Trump still faces criminal charges in Georgia, and tax evasion charges in New York.
Perhaps D.C. prosecutors will conduct a real trial over this because the impeachment process was a farce.
Trump can be prosecuted for inciting a riot or dereliction of duty in D.C. And D.C. is the most democratic jurisdiction in the United States. Being tried in DC is Trump’s worst nightmare.
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Mish
It’s hard to get reliable objective news nowadays. Every news station from CNN to MSNBC from Fox seems to be laced with a certain political agenda. Even the newspapers like NYT and LA Times seems to have their own flavoring of how you should lean your opinion. You’re able to see how one side says Trump caused the riot and how the other side says Trump did not cause the riot and it was instead the supporters. The question begs: “If J. Biden or Hunter Biden were to have their fans riot, would they themselves be charged with insurrection?” An interesting question.
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McCarthy is a pussy that Trump just grabbed again and again.
One of the reasons that the Trump story is important and relevant to the economic picture of the United States is that countries that institutionalize disregard for the law and truth while encouraging injustice and the repression of democracy will not prosper either economically or socially. John McCain called Russia a gas station masquerading as a country. If the US does not change its attitude regarding truth and the rule of law, we will soon be a military force masquerading as a country.
If assertions from one side are all all it takes to convict….throw Ted Cruz in jail for attempted murder…. This post fails. Sad.
So, Mish. What is your goal or objective? Your end game with this Trump thing? It’s now over and you better wake up to the inflation in the commodities market. That’s where it starts. You did your best and got your message out.
Hey Mish, why did you delete my post here?
I just said, imho, Irondoor was questioning the conclusion, not the content of the post. No court would convict based on 1 sides re-telling of events; that dumb and I question why Mish would propagate it when he knows better.
Guess what Mish: Hillary never landed under fire, AOC was not almost killed, Cheney never new where the WMD’s were…. People lie and skew the events….like you deleting my post earlier post that pointed this out…….
So not really a phone call… it was a second hand account by CNN who describe what McCarthy had told them about a phone call. Not like CNN has ever been caught embellishing anything. “evidence”; they don’t make it like they used to.
McCarthy has not disputed it.
what an astounding absence of civility. I make a presumably private phone call to a colleague…then after an inappropriate amount of time, I make a phone call to Joe Shit the Ragman, and reveal my side and my colleague’s (private??????) responses. The nation has turned into a pack of scuttling busy bodies. Well, OK, this is the ‘new’ transparency. Wow.
It’s still hearsay and would not even of been introduced in an actual court. If Dem’s had the evidence, they would of presented it, not manufactured it.
You’re simply not being honest with yourself, if they presented a Fox News account of a call that supported Trump would you have been just as accepting of it? Or course not, your simply too biased and it’s effecting your reasoning.
It’s just like the photo of the doctored tweet (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/07/us/politics/trump-impeachment.html). You will say; that’s ok… they didn’t actually present it., so nothing to see here…they’re merely using it to mislead the public. I am no fan of Trump due to him being such an arse….but unlike you, I give no excuses to people obviously running a ruse. It’s insulting and manipulative; why are you so supportive of that. They lie to you; then you shrug it off.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/07/us/politics/trump-impeachment.html).
“ The republic which sinks to sleep, trusting to constitutions and machinery, to politicians and statesmen, for the safety of its liberties, never will have any,” Wendell Phillips
I’m glad that did come out. It will be a footnote to history…and an important one.
I think if a congress-critter or the VP had been hanged…that Trump would have been convicted….but absent that, it was a foregone conclusion he’d skate again.
Very briefly it looked like things might be different….but then the Republican Senators got reminded what they really stand for……and justice just isn’t it. It’s something quite different.
Ah yes, it’s morals and ethics that lead to law and order and ultimately, hopefully, to justice. Sometimes it seems so easy but alas we just can’t get to that last little bit for fear of losing law and order.
Similar to most of the other posts that relate to politics, nothing in the article comes anywhere close to supporting what is actually suggested in the headline (i.e. “Proves Trump’s Guilt”) Not even close.
Please stick to economics. You have a lot more credibility there.
Good to see our legislators busy a work on Saturday. The dollars are ticking away I am sure they are working on something important!
Deplorable behavior. Very unpresidential. Narcissistic. Still not legally incitement. Still a pointless trial with a prescribed punishment that can no longer be enacted. Censure was the better (only) path.
This retard Mish is left wing hack .
Mish, you’re a liberal clown if you actually believe Trump incited anything. Our government is full of senior-aged children bickering back and forth over a citizen who they are so scared of being President again. If elections are secure and real again, Trump will get re-elected after 4 years of this Biden clown show.
Mish, you’re a liberal clown if you actually believe Trump incited anything. Our government is full of senior-aged children bickering back and forth over a citizen who they are so scared of being President again. If elections are secure and real again, Trump will get re-elected after 4 years of this Biden clown show.
The FIX is in. Republicans Didn’t need any lawers, A drunk clown would have given the same senseless results.
This Trump bashing is enough for me, I have been reading your posts for years and I am done. Delete…..
Bye
I’m surprised it took you that long to realize Mish has severe TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) . Liberal moron like the rest of ’em.
Sayonara…
Please don’t leave, you contribute so much
Don’t forget your Flavor-Aid gift basket on your way out.
Bah-bye!
“Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.”
— Friedrich Nietzsche
Bye Mr. Dave — peace/out.