Biden is opening a rift with Harris by repeating a claim he would have won.
Rift With Harris as Time Expires
The Wall Street Journal reports Biden’s Claim He Would Have Beaten Trump Opens Rift With Harris
Vice President Kamala Harris has told close allies and family members she is disappointed in President Biden’s recent contention that he would have won the 2024 election, according to people familiar with the conversations, straining relations between the two during their final days in the White House.
Her fraying relationship with Biden comes at a challenging time for Harris, who is dealing with a crisis in her adopted hometown of Los Angeles, where wildfires have caused broad destruction, as she transitions out of her public role. Harris has expressed deep sadness to people close to her over losing the election and Biden’s comments, some of those people said.
Asked if he thought he could have defeated Trump, Biden said this month in an interview with USA Today, “It’s presumptuous to say that, but I think yes, based on the polling.”
Days later, he reiterated to reporters that he “could have beaten Trump, would have beaten Trump.” Biden also said that Harris “could have beaten Trump, would have beaten Trump.”
“I didn’t want to be one who caused a party that wasn’t unified to lose an election,” he said. “And that’s why I stepped aside.”
On what planet do any of these contradictions make any sense?
- Based on polls Biden would have won.
- But he dropped out because he didn’t want to be the one to cause the party to lose.
- And finally, Harris could have and would have beaten Trump.
Jill needs to lock this guy out of public view.
Dear Kamala
Please run again in 2028. Every Republican in the country would be grateful.
In my opinion Biden would have won. The Democrats made a huge mistake. They should have let Biden run. If he had won then they could stage a sick call on Biden, Biden would leave after serving a few months in office and Kamala would have been president. She could have then run two more times. She could have been the first female president and possibly the longest serving president. I would not have voted for her anyways. I always thought the Democrat party was the evil party and the Republican party was the stupid party but now I am of the opinion that the Democrat party is both evil and stupid.
Kamala would not have surpassed FDR in time-in-office, but she could’ve come close.
P.S. All political parties contain both evil and stupid, that’s in the nature of political power and why the system was built to include checks and balances. Give any party enough power for enough time, and watch the evil and stupid flourish as power corrupts them.
Kamala’s political career is over after her comment to the CA homeowners to be “patient”
I watched the entire Biden going away speech and I was nauseous after about 5 minutes. The BS was so thick and deep. Why is it our leadership seemingly getting worse with each election. Am just getting older and wiser? I do like how Trump is filling out his cabinet with a lot of non yes people with a wide range of opinions on how to move forward. Healthy debates usually improve outcomes..
If you voted for either of these mental midgets, please stick your head in the toilet and have someone flush it.
I don’t mind calling out Biden’s senility. Its almost a civic responsibility for the media to inform the people of incompetent leadership. I just hope you call out Trump for the same things when the time comes. He isn’t too far behind Biden in age.
One thing I question, what’s the purpose of dumping on Biden when he’s only a few days from leaving office? Is it to reassure everyone that we made the right choice to vote for Trump? What value is there? Why not move on to current matters.
Agreed.
Trump also needs to be called out on his insane bullshit work salad statements. Disguising his bloviating as 5D chess is insane.
I look at the picture and any chicken farmer would wonder how those 2 could even manage to get out of the coop.
Biden is a terrible man who says terrible things about the ultra rich. Little does he know we care only for the well being of the common man… specifically how much wealth we can extract from him.
Many people are going to miss the irony of this comment
I love the intellectually challenged!
Kamala Harris’ best chance at becoming President would have been invoking the 25th amendment..
I think Harris will be leaving Washington.
Other parts of Biden’s speech were more interesting –
e.g., his suggestion for a change to the Constitution.
We should reconsider that 19th Amendment. Everything started going downhill after that.
LOL!!!
Don’t get your hopes up. Kamala won’t survive ten minutes in a debate with Shapiro.
Yes, Joe Biden’s mental acuity is in decline. It happens to most of the elderly as they get old. Now imagine 80 million Joe Bidens across America over the next 10 years. Think long and hard about the implications of that last statement. Think about the number of people that will be needed to support 80m Joe Bidens…think long and hard.
No thanks, 1 Joe Biden is plenty.
To your point, presumably you have thought long and hard about how many people it took to maintain the illusion of the presidency during the past 4 years.
Realistically, when resources aren’t there then support won’t happen. Fortunately most old people don’t decline like Joe has and conflating his experience with that of a typical senior is quite incorrect.
Are you prepared for the shitshow of the next 4 years you guys are mistaken on assuming that it will be smooth sailing.
Who guys think that? I’ve never indicated any such thing so either your wires are crossed or you meant to reply to a different comment.
A lot worse than in decline. The truth will come out.
My bots will report it on twitter, and you’ll accept it as The Word of Your God.
How about your President-elect?
This is a bullshit argument. There are currently around 10 million people aged 80+ in the United States. There will never be 80 million people over age 80 at any point in time in the next 10 years. Nor over age 70, nor over age 60.
You should check the official statistics before posting inaccurate venom:
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/cb18-41-population-projections.html
75-80 million people on SS is why it will not be fully funded around 2034
Wisdom talks about people over 80 and you reply about people on Social Security. Talk about inaccurate venom.
You should read the full comment and chain of comments or you look foolish, too. Wisdom Seeker specifically wrote and said:
“There will never be 80 million people over age 80 at any point in time in the next 10 years. Nor over age 70, nor over age 60.”
I did not make him say that, or make it up. But the Census data show differently as I posted. Personally, I don’t care either way, but I do usually point out hypocrisy and hubris when I see it.
I admit I was wrong about “over age 60”. But those people are not elderly in the manner of Joe Biden, so the gist of my comment is still accurate.
I await your admission that you were wrong to conflate “over 60” with “elderly and senile like Joe Biden”.
Sorry, but I don’t know what you are talking about. I never wrote about or referenced and certainly did not conflate “senile” with anything. I never used that word. Personally, I can’t believe there is an entire blogpost about it.
I just provided other commenters with the actual statistics that around 80M people will be collecting Social Security within the next decade and the rest of us will pay for that to “support” them, which I thought was fairly obvious what MPO45 was referencing.
And what MPO45 actually posted was: “Joe Biden’s mental acuity is in decline.” and “Now imagine 80 million Joe Bidens across America over the next 10 years.”
Joe Biden is 82, not 60, his mental fitness was clearly being referenced, and there was absolutely no reference to social security.
Wow, this is really bothering you badly for some odd reason.
MPO45 literally responded to you much earlier today with a link to SSA information; he was obviously referring to Social Security.
And you’re still leaving out key context. He also said “It happens to most of the elderly as they get old. Now imagine 80 million Joe Bidens across America over the next 10 years.”
Of course, there are not going to be 80 million 82yo senile Americans. The 80 million obviously refers to the aging people over the next 10 years, aka the commonly referenced recipients going to make SS go insolvent.
You already noted your mistake about the 60yo elderly numbers. Why keep digging? Regardless, you can dig by yourself from here on out. The inanity of your arguing such minutiae is wearing
That’s like the Chicago Cubs waiting until the year 2116 comes along.
I did check the official stats. Population by age per U.S. Census.gov
Biden is 82. People of Biden’s age:
80 to 84 years 7,041,419
85 years and over 6,122,068
Next 10 years – but note that ~half of these will be dead within 10 years.
70 to 74 years 15,797,857
75 to 79 years 11,318,751
https://data.census.gov/table/ACSST1Y2023.S0101
Thanks for the data, but now you’re quoting numbers that change your previous context and statement. Above, you said “There will never be 80 million people over age 80 at any point in time in the next 10 years. Nor over age 70, nor over age 60.”
From your own source, why didn’t you add the following to your numbers (who will all be older than 60 in the next 10 years):
65 to 69: 19.0M
60 to 64: 21.6M
55 to 59: 20.2M
50 to 54: 20.6M
I don’t have a bet on the actual number either way. But this is why Social Security will have such issues in 10 years and what MPO45 was (and usually is) referring to as the rest of us supporting these elderly. And the numbers are what they are, which is not what you wrote
I’d edit out the “nor over age 60” comment if I could, I admit that bit was incorrect.
However, “people over age 60” (but not over 70) aren’t germane to the point MPO45 originally made, which remains bullshit.
The original comment was “Now imagine 80 million Joe Bidens across America over the next 10 years.”
The vast majority of people between age 60 and 70 are not “Joe Bidens” in terms of elderly mental decline, so they aren’t relevant.
By the time the elderly have Biden’s level of mental decline, many of them will be dead from other causes. Mortality rates kick in hard above age 60 and even harder above age 70.
I understand that an aging population poses challenges but “80 million Joe Bidens” is nonsense.
I interpreted it to reference mental condition because of the blog post topic and MPO writing 80 million *Bidens*.
You may very well be correct, based on their past posts, but we are almost 90% there according to the SSA so it isn’t a huge jump to 80 million. The $2 Trillion+ budget deficits are already here, another hole in the budget won’t noticeably affect how fast the metaphorical ‘ship of state’ sinks.
There are 72.8m people that need “support” as of November 2024 and that number will only grow.
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quickfacts/stat_snapshot/
People here keep talking about the “jab” causing severe disability, those aren’t even included in the current projections. If you believe the ‘jab’ makes people sick then the problem is much worse, if not it’s still bad.
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quickfacts/stat_snapshot/
But you don’t need to be aged 80 to have mental decline, just look at all the comments on this blog for a clue.
“need support” is a much different bar than “80 million Joe Bidens”.
Also, as medical care enables people to live longer, it also enables them to live healthier and be more productive at those higher age levels.
And the definition of “need support” is fuzzy and will be adjusted to match whatever the rest of the nation is willing to deliver.
For instance, I’d argue that the odds are higher that the Social Security eligibility limit gets raised, than that the associated tax rate gets raised.
Estimates are that 50% of all people that took the vax will be dead in 5 years. We have no idea how this will financially affect the ss fund.
nor the world at large.
This is also a nonsense argument, especially without evidence cited. If 50%were going to die off within 5 years, we’d be seeing more evidence of it already, the current mortality rates would be much higher than they are, there would be a lot more people needing hospitalizations en route to the grave, etc.
I’m one of your 10 million. I’m “sharp as a tack” and, as Doc Holliday said to Johnny Ringo in “Tombstone” when Ringo asked him if he was retired, “Not me, I’m in my prime”.
Excellent!
Mathematically, we are most definitely “in our prime” at the following ages:
53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97, 101, 103, 107, 109, 113
Personally, I am just past my prime, but looking forward to being back in my prime again soon!
hey none of those numbers divide evenly by 2. whatsup wit dat?
Speaking of dementia, KTLA reported last nite, that a new study claims eating red meat increases chances for getting dementia. In 2020, KTLA reported a new study claimed Vitamin D supplements were “worthless.” Turned out the study claim was false. I view this one the same, as the effort is to get people to stop eating beef due to methane production by cows.
Just admit you got conned into voting for both of these dolts. You’ll feel better.
So who or what was running the country?
The ultimate question
an evil octopus
I am.
Andreessen told Robinson that President-elect Donald Trump’s knowledge about problem-solving in business and energy is “extremely sophisticated” and “world-class on real estate and communications.”
He’s idiot bait to bring me votes, nothing more. If he had any brains, I couldn’t have bought him so cheap.
It’s a win win: He gets to golf, and I get to be the nuclear-armed King of the Incels!
Please…. keep your homoerotic thoughts to yourself.
Which part of that turned you on? I’m genuinely curious.
The ultimate puppet masters don’t have Wikipedia pages. Sorry.
Sullivan. If you listen to the leak Nuland audio it sounds like Sullivan calls the main shots. The pipe line sabotage was Blinken’s since he wrote a book about the topic in the 80’s. It looks like an inner group of a bout 3-4 people with Sullivan as the leader. Biden has no clue what’s going on.
You mean besides the CIA?
Cia works for State Department, ostensibly, certain groups of cia are known to go off the reservation now and then , see kennedy visits Dallas 1963, or MKultra, etc.
AI in the basement of the RAND Corporation.
UNIVAC?
state department same as always, thats why you change the leader and the wars go on forever…
The Democratic Party and the country would have been better off if Michael Bloomberg had entered the primary earlier in 2020 and won the race for president. Instead we ended up with Biden.
They couldn’t even countenance MN congressman Dean Phillips – and he’s a decent guy – whose family runs a distillery to boot!
Mish,
dementia is often characterized as a loss of mental facilities, acuity, memory and reasoning skills.
I’m not his doctor, but I’d say his statements indicate he is suffering from dementia,
I beleive its the main reason he was nominated and elected by his party, so the invisible actors could manipulate their puppet. He was a perfect president for the Stated Department and other entities that want to control the executive and the executive branch.
I don’t think Bloomberg would have allowed himself to be pushed around by the neocons like Biden was. The biggest losers were probably the people of Ukraine.
the big losers were the Americans, who by the way also paid for alot of pointless aid to Ukraine. We got screwed 8 ways to sunday during the Biden regime.
A few years ago I ran into Coach Jim Mora’s grandaughter. She worked at a real estate company I was closing a deal on.
She got really excited I knew all about Jim and even played the “Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda” video for me. We had a good laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKhyj5Szmks
It could have been worse…
just imagine if Biden claimed he actually won the 2024 election!
I’d like to ask, if he had, would the doj stooges have thrown down charges on him? I mean, if questioning/ contesting election results have the hammer coming down on the questioner, what about outright claiming he won again? I’m just not appreciative of department double standards, you know.
No double standard. And it isn’t a crime to question or contest.
The Trump allegations that will never go to trial involved “‘pressure on the Vice President’ to delay the vote certification on January 6, 2021…and…the organization of a false slate of electors.”
Inciting the January 6 rioters wasn’t cool either…
but blaming it on everyone else worked like a charm.
The scapegoat list:
Antifa…
FBI operatives…
Nancy Pelosi…
Mike Pence…
and most recently, Hezbolla!
Trump is not senile. He is, however, crazy like a fox…news host.
Telling protestors to do so peacefully, is not incitement. Apparently, the Capitol Police fired on the protesters standing on the lawn below the steps to the Capitol, without warning.
Trump asked for 10,000 National Guard, in order to control the crowd and was refused. Trump is being scapegoated.
Timing is everything…
It was AFTER the siege that Trump called for peace.
BEFORE he had said: “We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
But I understand your confusion when YEARS later Trump attempts to rewrite history declaring it was a “day of love”.
Who’s Biden?
Senile? You ain’t seen nothing yet!
Scranton Joe is a Corrupt, Bitter, Devisive, Liar with no accomplishments.
I praise the day the public tears down any of his statues.
I’ve watched Biden’s career for my whole adult life. No amount of scorn and humiliation is misplaced when directed his way.
Imagine if Harris were the one awaiting her inauguration. We really dodged a bullet.
Like the crazy Japanese soldier still fighting WWII Team Biden still acts like they didn’t really lose the election in resounding fashion. Speaking of, how about the insane Jake Sullivan comments?
I’m going to keep saying this. Suppose an Alien race had a device to make the West stupid and delusional. Suppose they crank the device up just a little at a time. No one would notice, not even “experts” and Ph.D’s. They’d say, “Oh, history has always been like this”.
It’s often hard to tell if a headline is from the Onion or Babylon Bee or “real” news.
google “Carlo M. Cipolla” was an Italian economic historian. He was a member of both the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and the American Philosophical Society
he wrote the 5 basic laws of human stupidity, its a good read and its short, just a couple pages.
Thank you for sharing that!
Please Biden just leave and STFU. Gavin Newsome is Americas Justin Trudeau . Thankfully he is just a governor of a state but he represents the state of California perfectly. Adam Schiff the now senator lied repeatedly in the Russia Collusion garbage when he put out the minority view of the investigation . The reward for him is the state elected him to the senate .From the bullet train fiasco to many dozens of the fire vehicles pictured waiting maintenace not in service, to hydrants not working and reservoirs empty the list of incompetence is nearly endless . The Dems from Pelosi to Fienstein and many more are fabulously wealthy off of very modest salaries they got from the government. The area burnt to a crisp voted 75% for these people and the Hollywood crowd called Trump and anyone who supported him every name in the book and used their platforms to spread their hatred at everyone who doesnt think like them .
They are sueing the electric utility . That is like sueing yourself they were bailed out a while back and will just raise rates to cover any judgement that a biased California jury would throw at them . They will blame everyone and sue everyone to cover their incompetence .
Schiff in his exchange with Bondi even after she offered heartfelt condolences on the Fire situation, his top priority was Liz Cheny.
Not a thing about how she would handle Border migration, Drug interdiction, Narco Cartels, Child and Woman trafficking, or dealing with Water distribution from federal level so that LA could rebuild.
Nope, it was all about Liz Cheny for Schiff.
Rest of Dems are still stuck on 2020 election.
I would think everyone else in America said to themselves WTF is with these people.
you must realize, Schiff’s job is not to engage in law making to improve anything. His job is political theatre to keep the proles outraged and engaged and making donations.
he’s a failed screenwriter, who now writes dramas in the senate for the delusional who enjoy the confirmation bias.
Feinstein’s wealth came mostly from her late husband Richard Blum, who she married in 1980. He was her third husband. Nancy Pelosi had a reputation for insider trading which undoubtedly contributed to her wealth.
Anon – A little more than reputation… Check out ticker symbol NANC.
Fortunately for Adam Schiff, he had a former baseball with financial and other issues (like owing the IRS back taxes) as his Republican opponent in the 2024 Senate race.
There is nothing more entertaining in this world than a Democrat circular firing squad.
I didn’t think he would make it past the first year. Is it too early to say he over performed?
😉 😉 😉
He was out of sight for months leading up to the election and for weeks after. Now he’s everywhere. I’m convinced this is a humiliation ritual.
Which election?!
yes but i’m not certain who he is humiliating, himself, the democratic party, or all of America?
It serves to distract from issues of the day (beats having the chattle talk about economic woes, international woes, border woes, et cetera).
Plus, during the drought of sound bites at the turn of an election cycle it helps generate clicks and keeps politics in the “news”!
Schrodinger’s Biden …
you can’t be certain he’s eating ice cream until you open the box..
He’s eating ice cream but he’s dead now! Dang it.
Did you see his farewell speech Mish? Disturbed.
It was horrible and bitter.
I’ll kiss it better, boo boo. Show me where the bad man hurt you.
Are you still sore about both getting conned by Headboard and then realizing your candidate lost to him? lol, too funny. Toodles!
Glad you posted this, Midnight! His speech was pure gaslighting propaganda BS. I have lived through enough administrations to have a feel for the good ones and bad ones, and Biden’s is hands-down the worst I have had the torture to experience. I fear that with his last 4 days in office he will seek to cement his pathetic legacy and go out with a bang in some new and neocon-pleasing way.