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Attorney Sidney Powell Fired for Being Too Conspiratorial Even For Trump

Sidney Powell Abruptly Tossed Under the Bus

Flashback November 14

Sidney Powell Removed From President’s Legal Team

Politico notes Trump campaign cuts Sidney Powell from president’s legal team

“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own,” Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis said in the statement. “She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”

Mike DuHaime, the Republican National Committee’s former political director, tweeted on Sunday that the party must pull down its tweet endorsing Powell’s remarks now that she’s been removed from representing Trump or the campaign.

“This is crazy/embarrassing to promote,” he tweeted.

Powell  ‘Too Conspiratorial’ and ‘Too Crazy Even for the President’

Please consider Lawyer Sidney Powell  ‘Too Conspiratorial’ and ‘Too Crazy Even for the President’

Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s top election lawyer, said at a wild press conference Thursday that he, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis were “an elite strike force team” that’s “representing President Trump and we’re representing the Trump campaign.” 

Powell “was too crazy even for the president,” a campaign official told The Washington Post. A Trump adviser echoed that to The New York Times, telling reporter Maggie Haberman “she was too conspiratorial even for him,” even though Giuliani has been making similar claims. “One down, two to go,” a Trump aide told Haberman, who added that Trump was displeased with the loss in Pennsylvania and “Powell was easiest to vote off the island.”

Trump “disliked the coverage Powell was receiving from Tucker Carlson and others,” the Post reports, citing two Trump advisers, and “several allies had reached out to say she had gone too far” with her conspiracy theories. On Saturday night, Powell went on Newsmax and accused Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) of taking payoffs to deprive not only Trump of victory in Georgia, but also Rep. Doug Collins (R), who was defeated in his bid for a Senate runoff slot by GOP Sen. Kelly Loellfer.

#KrakenOnSteroids

https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1330672355178266624

One Down Two to Go

Trump’s Legal Team Is a Farce

National Embarrassment

Chris Christie Calls Trump’s Legal Team a National Embarrassment

During Sunday’s edition of ABC’s This Week, Christie told host George Stephanopoulos that Trump’s campaign has had enough time to present evidence of voter fraud, but they have failed to do so. He said the legal challenge has turned into a “national embarrassment,” singling out Sidney Powell for accusing Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) of a crime and then refusing to back it up with evidence.

Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) Blasts Trump

Rep. Bill Pascrell Seeks to Disbar Rudy Giuliani

Former CIA Director John Brennan

Of all Donald Trump’s self-centered acts, his failure to respect this time-honored process is his most egregious & most harmful.
 Those who support his blatant disregard of the law & decency are equally culpable.

Larry Hogan R-Maryland Embarrassed By Trump

Tested Negative for Decency

Worst Yet to Come?

Battle Against Hugo Chavez Must Continue

Judge Disembowels Trump’s “Frankenstein” Pennsylvania Lawsuit

Trump’s 4D Master Plan

I am told this is all part of Trump’s 4D master plan.

Trump planned in advance to lose 34 consecutive cases so that he could get straight to the Supreme Court for an ultimate victory that would shock the whole world.

Mish

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Jeff Johnson
Jeff Johnson
5 years ago

Despite the stories going on about Donald Trump, I do believe there has been and will continue to be plenty of bias regarding him. The media do an awful lot to paint the brush strokes of our imaginations, so it is not surprising that left leaning news sources would spend four years denouncing everything Trump does, even if he does some great work. I do not really even believe news stations are unbiased. They have their own political leanings, so I look deeper than what the media says and ask myself “are they attempting to convince me to their pre-formed and rehearsed viewpoint, or do they want me to think for myself?”.

Jeff Johnson of Woodstock, GA – https://www.woodstockguttercleaners.com

infidel 31
infidel 31
5 years ago

Mish being a lifelong Illinois democrat helped vote them into that mess they have, has like most libtards decided that they don’t want to hold the sack of dog feces they voted for so he pulled up roots and now will do the same damage to his new state. That my friends is the real virus spreading across the land.

kicnbac
kicnbac
5 years ago

She was never paid by Trump. She works by donations. The fake news is really getting bad.

kicnbac
kicnbac
5 years ago

She was never paid by Trump. She works on her own. She has a donation page to help with her legal work. FAKE NEWS

Webej
Webej
5 years ago

Brennan? CIA? Seriously?

Nobody should be quoting them even if they say the earth is round.

QTPie
QTPie
5 years ago

Been sitting here for days waiting for the Kraken… and waiting… and waiting…

kicnbac
kicnbac
5 years ago
Reply to  QTPie

She files her case weds. Kraken is a CIA hacking program. She said last week she wasn’t filing till this week. Your sarcasm failed.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
5 years ago

I do not have the data to back up the hypothesis below.
That said, the results of the House races show a positive move to Republican, less so for the Senate. The outcome (President) likely can be explained by Trump dislike–about 3-4% voting against him for President, yet realizing Biden is a zombie, they still voted for him, AND for Republicans in the House to offset the damage. Some voters, like Mish, voted 3rd party President for the same reason.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

I think that is exactly correct. The majority of voters do not want the Green New Deal. The majority of voters do not want Trump. So, some voted for Biden and down ticket Republicans. Others voted for Jorgensen and down ticket Republicans.

AshH
AshH
5 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

Yeah, I also wonder if people intentionally vote for a divided government. Biden was favored to win (60% chance in prediction markets, 90% chance by polls), so maybe people tended to vote more GOP down ballot to make it a divided govt.

In 2016, Clinton was favored to win, and the GOP not only won the presidency, but both houses of congress too. The house only flipped to the Dems in the midterms.

Sechel
Sechel
5 years ago

Michigan certified 3-0. Trump has no path, he lost the votes, he lost the courts and he lost his coup attempt

aprnext
aprnext
5 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

take a gander at the last Michigan canvass get together. wow. a lot of answers there.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
5 years ago

Hey , good news ! Your new president nominated his secretary of state : Anthony Blinken, a deluded, fckn warmonger ! Nice!

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

The President’s lawyer is still peddling absolutely false “evidence”.

“Overvotes in Michigan”? Only because the “evidence” he has is based on Minnesota populations compared to Michigan vote totals. Michigan state population near 10 million, Minnesota population less than 6 million. So comparing Michigan vote total to registered voters in Minnesota is completely wrong. Entirely two different states. The lawyer who wrote the complaint admits that the the two states were confused in the complaint.

Complaints of “hacked Dominium voting machines”. But Michigan doesn’t use Dominium voting machines–it has a paper ballot that the voter marks. The paper ballot is retained for recounts so the same paper the voter marks is available for recounts. No way of hacking that.

Anda
Anda
5 years ago

Like wapo and so many western msm sources domestic and foreign the times is completely discredited, they are disinfo at its worst, why back them by using them for your arguments ? This of latest infamy :

“Russia Correspondent
Job Description

Vladimir Putin’s Russia remains one of the biggest stories in the world.

It sends out hit squads armed with nerve agents against its enemies, most recently the opposition leader Aleksei Navalny. It has its cyber agents sow chaos and disharmony in the West to tarnish its democratic systems, while promoting its faux version of democracy. It has deployed private military contractors around the globe to secretly spread its influence. At home, its hospitals are filling up fast with Covid patients as its president hides out in his villa.

If that sounds like a place you want to cover, then we have good news: We will have an opening for a new correspondent as Andy Higgins takes over as our next Eastern Europe Bureau Chief early next year.”

It could be the onion, but isn’t. Their trails are littered with corruption and open falsity, that anyone with an ounce of cynicism or critical thought would notice.

Oh well, echoes take a long time to fade nowadays, I guess it was meant that way for their tendency to silence, it’s how democracy ends… which they advertise openly as well.

Hayseed
Hayseed
5 years ago

If this echo chamber is correct, and the other echo chamber is high on face news, we will get a little further down the road before the house of cards called the United States will collapse. But if the other echo chamber can prove the software connection between the Chavez funded company, and this company, that will split America. Half of the country will not trust elections again.

Instead of calling it fake news, lay out the facts. Show the code.

This isn’t a red vs blue issue. A large portion of the country doesn’t trust either party at this point. Sorry. But anyone who blindly trusts any news source 100% is a fool. There are always some places a journalist is not allowed to go, assuming they want to continue paying their mortgage.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Hayseed

Regardless of what happens, half the country will not trust elections again, at least for a long time. Trump, in four short years, has done immense damage to our country. Probably the single biggest piece of damage his did was to get his followers to quit trusting credible news sources, and to people instead to propaganda sites where they can be easily manipulated. The mainstream media is imperfect, but at least it does do a reasonable job of filtering out blatantly false propaganda. Now we have people who believe ridiculously false things, never doubting that they are the ones privy to the truth, even though there are no facts to support it.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Dan Rather stands as a fine example of unbiased reporting, NOT.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago
Reply to  Hayseed

You might as well as joined the rush of area 57 to see the alien secrets.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

Instead of broad and meaningless generalities, a little research into major US media having strong CIA connections will prove Hayseed has history on his side. You have nothing.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
5 years ago
Reply to  Hayseed

FYI to your critics below, the CIA ran Operation Mockingbird in the early 1960s. The CIA controlled some 400 US Journalists, planting fake stories in national media to control public opinion. The operation was under the direct control of Dulles, the DIRECTOR. Carl Bernstein (of Watergate fame) broke the story in 1977.

If you seriously thing the CIA is not capable of doing this nowadays to maintain its power base, think again. Hayseed raises the right questions. The US needs to get to the bottom of this, true or false. Sticking your hand in the sand will not achieve that.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

I am familiar with that history, and my head isn’t in the sand.

But go look for the great white whale, Cap’n.

Let us know what you find.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

Planting propaganda is much, much easier today, in the Disinformation Age.

aprnext
aprnext
5 years ago
Reply to  Hayseed

for a hayseed you are pretty smart

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
5 years ago

That the Trumptards have no shame is a given. That they have no dignity is novel yet unsurprising. Next up we discover they have no self-control. After that we’ll discuss their freedom, then their lives if forced to.

rightcenter
rightcenter
5 years ago

I don’t think many people on here would condone it, but if people are being honest they would admit it’s a possible scenario, even though I voted for Trump after being a liberal democrat for 50 years I was relieved when I found out Biden won, I was that afraid that the left would go off the deep end.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  rightcenter

Nobody with any critical thinking skills thinks the election was rigged.

None of the states with automatic mail-in ballots were ever likely to go for Trump, for one thing. They’re all solidly blue.

Secondly, every state has its own system and its own people for maintaining the accuracy of the election. There is very little likelihood of any deep state “entity” to be able to interfere in a meaningfully successful way in fifty different states in a single election.

Third, there is no reason to think Trump was going to win…because he royally blew it on COVID, and spent months doubling down on his bad choices…….and displayed his ignorance and bad judgment in public all year long, for anybody who wanted to look.
The only hard to fathom part is why he didn’t lose big, since he was, by just about any reasonable standard, a lousy president.

Conspiracy theory lovers aren’t very good at telling truth from fiction. This is because they don’t actually look at stats, facts, odds, or anything useful in order to make decision …..it only matters who is feeding them their information.

Two words…..Occam’s Razor….the simplest explanation is usually the best explanation…….

Trump lost because he lost a little support on the right…….and because he motivated
a broad coalition of Trump haters to show up on Election Day. End of story.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

I hate to break it to you, but your critical thinking is exactly the issue. It begins by asking the question, not blindly accepting your beliefs. This is true of BOTH sides.
The issue is not Occam’s Razor–it is an excuse used by the less critically minded. What we are dealing with is the tendency of finding what you are looking for. Look for fraud in the data, there will be any number of spurious correlations indicating fraud. Look for an open and fair election, the same is true.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

You weren’t looking for fraud when Trump squeaked out a win for years ago. You were ecstatic. No questions then about how a guy who lost the popular vote could get into the White House. No matter how much I happen to dislike the Clintons (which is considerably) Hillary was a better man than Trump is being now, when she conceded.

That’s what we do in this country when we get beaten in elections. We concede and move on…..for the good of the country. Trump doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the country.

You’re very wrong, and if you want to prove anything to anybody, then you need to make a better argument.

Show your data that proves fraud…..34 law suits later, and nobody has shown anything. Give it a rest, Cap’n.

Here’s another clue….if there was anything to find, somebody would have already found it.

I find it interesting, these self-aggrandizing usernames. Are you a whaling enthusiast?

AshH
AshH
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

He also never tried to appeal to centrists or independents, but always pandered to his far-right base. That may work in a primary, but isn’t a good strategy for the general election.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago
Reply to  rightcenter

One would think a massive, competent rigging scheme would have assured the Democrats secure control of the House and Senate.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago
Reply to  rightcenter

One would think a massive, competent rigging scheme would have assured the Democrats secure control of the House and Senate.

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon
5 years ago

This presidency is a reality TV show…

rightcenter
rightcenter
5 years ago

I have no idea if the election was rigged, if it was it’s because the left are so violent as we have seen in their BLM protests that if Trump had won there would have been a lot of people dying and our country would have been burnt down so maybe for national security it was done though it would have to be done by the CIA

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  rightcenter

And given that hypothetical scenario – i.e. the elections were rigged by the deep state to prevent civil unrest by a number of minority groups – does anyone feel that scenario is acceptable? Does anyone condone it? Just askin’

rightcenter
rightcenter
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

I don’t think many people on here would condone it, but if people are being honest they would admit it’s a possible scenario, even though I voted for Trump after being a liberal democrat for 50 years I was relieved when I found out Biden won, I was that afraid that the left would go off the deep end.

Yasssssss
Yasssssss
5 years ago
Reply to  rightcenter

Trump really did lose because the American people overwhelmingly chose Joe Biden

kicnbac
kicnbac
5 years ago
Reply to  Yasssssss

Pedo Joe couldnt fill a bathroom. He can rarely speak a full sentence that makes sense. We are supposed to believe Biden is more popular that Obama? Are you insane?

kicnbac
kicnbac
5 years ago
Reply to  rightcenter

More votes than registered voters. All battleground states stop counting at the same time. Couple hrs later Biden jumps way in the lead. The dead voting. thousands of fake addresses. Voting twice. Voting from a different state and yet you have no idea if fraud took place…

Jeff Larry
Jeff Larry
5 years ago

One more time, Mish is off the mark. Powell was not fired. And certainly not for being too conspiratorial. She is still working as before. This move was due to restrictions on funding of the campaign legal team and contributions to same, as is being reported this morning.

Come on Mish…was there really a big hurry to get this article posted?

Anda
Anda
5 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Larry

…and the headline picture with a cross over her, it’s like a vendetta.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2
5 years ago

It is Hugo Chávez and not Chavez.

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago

I suspect you are all getting a little ahead of yourselves as you have ever since the day of the election. ‘The fat lady hasn’t sung yet’, or so they say. Let’s wait and see what she offers before dismissing it as a nothingburger.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

So…it really isn’t a nothingburger……..it’s a reprehensible attempt to reverse an election that was won on the same playing field Trump won on in 2016….and if singing fat ladies (or a bunch of shyster lawyers) can overturn elections in America, we have more problems than you can possibly comprehend….no matter who is declared the winner.

Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

If you do all to shortcut the process then people will suspect foul play. Let it play out as written in the Constitution. It takes time but at the end you have legitimacy. I won’t get into the argument whether there was enough fraud to change the election or not. Election reform will have to be addressed by the lawmakers at a later date.

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

Unfortunately, I suspect you do have more problems that you can possibly comprehend, singing fat ladies or shyster lawyers notwithstanding.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

Oh, I think I get the problems just fine. It’s just decent solutions where I come up short.

“In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely.” —— Hunter S. Thompson

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

Do you honestly think Joe Biden is a decent solution, or any sort of solution? I agree, IF ‘the people’ legitimately voted for him then half the nation might sigh a short sigh of relief, and some of the rest might hold their nose and tolerate him. Personally, I have my doubts that he is much good for anything other than ‘trunalimunaprzure’ which I guess only he gets the full grasp of. And (speaking as an Englishman) I’m utterly astonished that the US has allowed him to become what he is. But lets see the Kraken and what awesome powers are contained therein and see who it devours. It will either be the status quo or the challengers. There will be no prisoners.

Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

Good presidents and prime ministers are the exception rather than the rule in the English-speaking democracies it seems. Sometimes I wonder how we get through but we do. Go figure.

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

If we do get through, its because we’re both of us living on borrowed time. There used to be massive residual wealth in the UK, but no longer. Amongst the thees and mees its all gone. That was what was appealing about Farage and Trump. At least they offered SOME vision for the future which, it seems, you either loved or loathed … I won’t get into their merits or otherwise on this board but unfortunately all anyone else seems to offer is a fug of terminal decline and eventual oblivion. I would like to say Biden is different. He isn’t.

Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

What is your definition of residual wealth?

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

I don’t like anything about Biden other than the fact that he isn’t Donald J. Trump.

But in this particular moment……that is enough.

Some things will be better under Biden, and others will be worse…and most things will trend in the same direction either way.

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

A fair point.

Anda
Anda
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

You know what view avid would take, with Trump being at odds with EU and Boris having a similar hairstyle…but it would be “interesting” to hear it in his own words…then again maybe not :/ .

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

I like one important thing about Biden. He has a long history of bi-partisanship. He is well known for working with people he disagrees with. That is exactly what the US needs at the moment. I don’t expect Biden to be a great President, but I hope he is a healing President. After four years with not one single time where the President called for unity, the fact that Biden’s first speech called for unity was a very positive sign.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

So….that’s the good, and I agree…..but against that you have to weigh his tendency to acquiesce to the worst parts of the Democratic Party platform of identity politics…and more especially his willingness to endorse BLM, which would be a first step down the road to perdition.

The Democrats are becoming the party of anti-whiteness, rather than the party of racial justice. And ideas like #defundthepolice are nothing short of absurd.

And although I don’t think Antifa is anything more than an umbrella term for misfits who want to burn things down because they have no future… those who have turned to destructive nihilism as a response to the kind of cognitive dissonance that happens when real life is so inferior to the life on TV shows…..I don’t think they need to be allowed to run rampant under the guise of legitimate social protest….which has been happening in places like Portand….all year.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

I agree that antifa, for now, is not organized, but their core agenda, the use of violence to prevent free speech that they disagree with, is deeply troubling to me. It remains to be seen if, under Biden, such concepts will be condemned. But, right now, the country needs a lot of healing, unfortunately. We shall see how it goes.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

Speaking as an American, I am utterly astonished that Britain has hugged the Farage/Boris pairing…

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

Yes, well we’ve had a whole series of non-entities in No 10 for a long time. I didn’t vote for Boris and you can check my posts out from a year ago (in case you don’t believe me); he was too unreliable and yet has to deliver anything of significance. Farage / Johnson have never been a pairing any more than Trump / Obama have been a pairing. I wonder what Avidremainers view on this US election would be?

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

Off the top of my head – well the industrial revolution started in the UK, and we once had an Empire that covered half the globe some of which were captive markets. I make no judgement about the morals here but its all gone. No coal mining, textiles, shipping, steel, aircraft, automobile to speak of. A lot of people were employed in these and other industries and in great country estates which once stemmed from these industries. We never had much by way of electronics like an Apple or IBM and were always playing catch up with the rest of the world. We have, or had (until Covid) creative arts but that’s now in danger, No fishing thanks to the EU. We do have banking for the few in the city, and that supports much of the secondary tier of employ, and I believe armaments but other than that we are a nation of retail parks hairdressers and nail salons and taking in each other’s washing. ‘Wealth’ as in how easy it was to get a job and how well it paid has all been steadily eroded over the period of a lifetime and were living on borrowed time and money. I’ve seen it disappear. The EU was seen as restrictive, a further layer of bureaucracy, and a further drain on those resources hence the appeal of Farage and Johnson. And I suspect there are some parallels to the story in the US

HenryV
HenryV
5 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

Previous was in answer to Doug78

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
5 years ago

I don’t think the legal actions are meant to win outright. They are meant to delay the certifications past Dec 8th, the safe harbor date.

Before the safe harbor date, the US Congress is essentially forced to accept the certified results. After the safe harbor date, it opens up options for them to potentially mix and match slates of electors in a contest that the GOP thinks favors them.

The whole process is complex, and not clearly enough defined legally for my personal comfort level.

This is a good article that describes the degenerate case: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

Mish
Mish
5 years ago

Key States are already certified
Refusal to concede is irrelevant

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
5 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Yes, things have changed since I posted that.

Michigan’s certification sealed it, it’s over.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

Burning down the house…

Trump attorney Lin Wood tells Republican supporters NOT to back GOP candidates in the Georgia runoff election because they’ve ‘failed’ to help the President’s fight to overturn the election
Trump Attorney Lin Wood has suggested voters should not back Republican candidates David Perdue (R-GA) and Senator Kelly Loeffler (R-GA)
The pair are both facing a January 5 runoff election – one of two races that will determine which party has control of the US Senate
But Wood believes the pair should be doing more to push for a third recount of ballots in Georgia after Trump failed to win the state by just under 13,000 votes

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

The fact that Republicans made gains in Congress and at the state level shows that some Republicans have already turned their backs on Trump. Hopefully this will be the last straw for more of them.

Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

I would say the opposite. Trump supporters are responsible for those Republican gains. Primary challenges the next time around should make them think.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

The only way you can have down-ticket candidates win while the candidate for President loses is for some people to vote for the down-ticket candidates, but vote against the candidate for President. In a normal year the President is the strongest candidate, and the question is whether he had strong enough coat tails to carry along the down-ticket candidates. This was not a normal year.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

A new twist on an age-old story…

…sinking ship swims away from rat…

Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

Or the cowards flee. Take your pick.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago

Graham in particular is an interesting case….I have no problem with his gayness, although he’s so far in the closet it’s made him toxic on the issues he should probably champion…..

My guess is that Trump has real dirt on him….to keep him dancing like a marionette at a time when it’s clear the tide has run out for Team Trump…..either that, or he’s afraid the Trump base will show up and vote for the Democrat in his run-off…which seems unlikely. Maybe he thinks they can show up en masse and vote FOR him….but I doubt that’s gonna happen either.

Cruz, like Pompeo, is hoping to use what he learned from the Trump phenomenon..

Cruz’s problem is that he is very intelligent, which shows, and it might work against him with the no-nothings. Pompeo wants to be Trump’s successor in the MAGA struggle….and he’s just about the right amount of vicious, unprincipled, and arrogant to do it.

.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
5 years ago

Buffoons. One and all.

The Rub
The Rub
5 years ago

The real concern I have is that WE have tens of millions of our fellow citizens who no longer see themselves as fellow citizens due to a perceived mass breach of our voting processes. Just like Sars Cov#…, the story of the software operating on all those voting machines is not going away. Heck, I’m even beginning to wonder now if the 2016 election was given to Trump. Our Republic is now going through mitosis. This is the way.

Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  The Rub

It’s happened before. I grew up in the Sixties. The pattern is polarisation followed by reconciliation/accommodation which lays the groundwork for future polarisation and so forth. Parties change and the electorate switches sides. It’s an ecosystem oscillating around an equilibrium. When one side becomes too strong a counterbalancing develops .

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

If we oscillate much harder, the wheels are gonna fall off.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

But it is dynamic and leads to new ideas and renewal. The only way it can oscillate to one side and stay there is through extreme repression like Lenin and Hitler. That might be hard for us.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

“that might be hard for us.”

I just don’t want to find out exactly HOW hard….and a populist demagogue getting nearly 50% support in a presidential election is not a good sign. Neither is said demagogue trying to subvert the results of his well-deserved defeat at the polls.

Whoever you voted for..or whether you voted at all……it should be clear to anybody with a brain……that the ONLY reason Trump lost was because of COVID. That alone should scare the bejeezus out of any thinking person.

It’s not the candidates that are the problem (although they’re all bad these days)….it’s the entrenched two party system……and the crazy money we spend on political campaigns.

All the oscillating in the world is not likely to fix that….people will just continue to get more polarized.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  The Rub

Yes. By creating the illusion that there was something wrong in the voting system, Trump has done far more damage to the country than many yet realize. Is the damage Trump has done irreparable? Time will tell.

Rbm
Rbm
5 years ago
Reply to  The Rub

On the plus side the system seems to be holding up well to trumps attempt to take over the us.

rightcenter
rightcenter
5 years ago
Reply to  The Rub

I have no idea if the election was rigged, if it was it’s because the left are so violent as we have seen in their BLM protests that if Trump had won there would have been a lot of people dying and our country would have been burnt down so maybe for national security it was done though it would have to be done by the CIA

ggbg
ggbg
5 years ago
Reply to  rightcenter

KidHorn
KidHorn
5 years ago
Reply to  The Rub

I can’t believe how antiquated our election process is. It needs to be overhauled. Everyone needs to show proof who they are and the votes need to be transparent to both parties. You can’t vote unless you have some unique ID like a SSN or drivers license number.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago

But it was gonna be Biblical!

Morons.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

Biblical? In what sense? Was he supposed to be the antichrist?

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

I was quoting Powell herself, who is credited with saying she was going to file a “biblical” lawsuit in Georgia….. here’s a link, but I”m not sure where in this 20 minute interview that she uses the words.

kicnbac
kicnbac
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

If you followed the news which it looks like you don’t, or you get your disinformation from this site or CNN. She said she is filing her case Weds. What is it with libs? Its like they are all missing half their brain

Tengen
Tengen
5 years ago

I’m shocked how fast the Trump crowd turned on Tucker Carlson. After years of being cited as perhaps the best host on TV, he is suddenly persona non grata for saying that Powell didn’t want to provide any evidence on his show.

This illustrates how cult-like US politics (particularly in Trump’s corner) has become. It’s not enough to agree 98% of the time with someone, it needs to be TOTAL lockstep. Anything less makes you a Satanic communist. It’s completely crazy!

Sechel
Sechel
5 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

i’m not surprised. Trump is transactional

Agent_Smith
Agent_Smith
5 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

I was once married to a narcissist. They have only 2 types of people in their lives: those that are useful to them, and those that are not. And usefulness is a constantly moving target.

ggbg
ggbg
5 years ago
Reply to  Agent_Smith

Absolutely correct! People do not understand what is narcissism. They think it is only someone who craves admiration. If it was only that simple it wouldn’t be a problem at all! It is comprised of many far, far more damaging behaviors.

Sechel
Sechel
5 years ago

Powell didn”t even last one full Scaramucchi

JonSellers
JonSellers
5 years ago

Who knew that Venezuelan communists actually control the electoral system of the United States of America? That they made sure the Democrats pick Joe Biden because they knew he would pick that notorious Maoist Kamala Harris as VP? And shortly, after Biden dies from his senile dementia, Harris will takeover and declare the grand old USA to become a minor province of Venezuela?

All of this under the nose of the stable genius of Donald J. Trump. Are the Venezuelan leaders actually that much smarter than the Trump administration? Is that even humanly possible? If they are that brilliant, should we maybe want to have them as our new leaders?

Why isn’t Fox News even covering this? Or did I jusr make this all up in my head? It’s all so confusing.

marg54
marg54
5 years ago
Reply to  JonSellers

lol

Lance Manly
Lance Manly
5 years ago

On George Conway’s quote:

“If you think this is all insane, just remember it’s only going to get worse. Because he’s going to get worse. He can’t change the result, but he’s going to get wilder as he becomes increasingly more desperate”

We know that last week Trump sought options to attack Iran nuclear sites. He probably is worried that Biden will undo his undoing of Obama’s deal as part of his overall Obama obsession. His aides talked him down.

Question: If he does decide to go through with it should the military consider it an illegal order? I would think so since Iran is not presently threatening the US nor are they refining uranium to weapons grade.

amigator
amigator
5 years ago

Relax everyone we will work this out. I have not seen anything that we did not see within 2 years of hysterical Russian interference with was at a much higher cost!

Notice no Russian interference or anyone else except Trump of course. I guess that’s all solved and all these countries decided to quit just no use messing with elections…… com’on man!

The press (ie the owners of the press) got what they wanted so they don’t give a dam about who interfered with what… Isn’t that pretty obvious or am I just a conspiracy nut! Is there anyone else in the room with me?

God Bless America can I say that? just stick with USA! USA!

DMC2018
DMC2018
5 years ago
Reply to  amigator

You lost me.

rete
rete
5 years ago
Reply to  amigator

ZeroHedge rang. They had an escape from their “Fake Press” enclosure.

Sechel
Sechel
5 years ago

We’re supposed to believe Powell was too conpiratorial but Rudy is not? Clerly this is a bizarre attempt to throw Powell under the bus nd hope th team can pretend its business as usual. And I was so loooking forward to seeing the Kraken, which is looking more and more like some calamari

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