Biden’s announced trip to a war zone has huge diplomatic, political and security risks. Is it an ill-advised political gamble or a smart move?
Normally, presidential trips to war zones are not announced in advance. This one is, and that increases the risk of something major going wrong.
The Wall Street Journal reports Biden’s Trip to Israel Carries Risks for U.S. Policy—and His Own Legacy.
With Israel on the brink of a ground invasion of Gaza, President Biden will visit the beleaguered nation with the aim of reinforcing American commitment to its security and addressing the spiraling humanitarian crisis in Gaza brought on by the war with Hamas.
As concerns intensify that the conflict could spread through the region, the U.S. hopes Biden’s trip will serve as a warning to any third parties—whether other nations or militant groups like Lebanon’s Iran-backed Hezbollah—that the U.S. was prepared to act if they join the conflict. By traveling to the region, the president is putting his credibility on the line and appearing to step deeper into the conflict, even as Biden and top administration officials asserted that U.S. combat troops wouldn’t be sent into another war.
Biden’s trip also poses a political challenge as he seeks a second term. Although support for Israel is popular among Americans overall in the aftermath of the Oct. 7 attacks, especially among Republicans and independent voters, Biden risks losing support from his own party.
A group of progressive Democrats, including Reps. Cori Bush (D., Mo.), Rashida Tlaib (D., Mich.), André Carson (D., Ind.), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) and Ilhan Omar (D., Minn.), drafted a resolution Monday calling for a cease-fire and immediate humanitarian assistance to Gaza.
Biden is scheduled to leave Washington late Tuesday. In addition to Israel, he will also travel to Amman, Jordan, to meet with regional leaders there, including Jordanian King Abdullah, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to discuss humanitarian issues and other elements of the conflict.
Potential Risks
- A 35 vehicle motorcade running through Jerusalem will enflame tensions.
- A high value target get to Israel there by plane, announced in advance.
- A response from Lebanon might easily trigger a wider war.
- If something goes wrong, the United Stares will be in a full scale war in the Middle East.
- If something goes really wrong, Kamala will be in charge of the response.
Potential Gains
- Biden can expand his legacy if something goes right or wrong. This gain is entirely political.
- Perhaps Biden can persuade Israel to tone things down a bit or Egypt to accept more Palestinians.
Question of the Day
Humanitarian Crisis: Do You Support Israel Shutting of Water in Gaza Strip?
My question of the day on October 15 was Do You Support Israel Shutting of Water in Gaza Strip?
My question of the day today: Is Biden’s trip to Israel worth the risks?
If I am missing gains or risks, chime in.
Mohammed was a warlord who spread his religion by conquest. The Romans accepted all religions as they had many gods under their tent. So they had to define “religion.” Roman religion definition: It is old, was here before we arrived and conquered you. Judish fit the definition but Christianity didn’t. So Christianity was seen as insurrection originally. It took about 300 years for the Romans to convert.
In 600 AD the Middle East and Egypt were either Jewish or Christian. Mohammed had not been born yet. The Jews wanted to be left alone to study the Torah, and the Christians wanted Peace on Earth. Read the Koran.
It’s going to cost a lot of money to get him and his personal security army over there too. He should stay home. You can state your intentions without physically visiting. Plus he’s an old man.
Paying a visit to his overlords! While US citizens are suffering.
Hey it could be worse another virus could be leaked out of the many labs around the world.
Or, smart bomg going off at a mall near you.
Are malls still open in the USA?
Don’t give them any ideas please
How many stairs are involved? That numbskull is no Archduke Ferdinand.
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Why is it that every politician falls over themself to praise and cowtow to Israel? Israel is a foreign country and its interests and our interests are not aligned. This just goes to show how much our politicians are bought and paid for. Jews spend $millions bribing US politicians to get $billion from US tax payers. It doesn’t help things that Zionist Evangelical Christians are trying to march us off into some kind of biblical prophecy.
Agree, and the same influence peddling happens with other foreign entities, Russia & China being another example where politicians & officials revert to opportunism over duty, and it’s not just one side of the fence.
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I don’t see the politicians from both parties trying to kiss China’s butt. Quite the contrary. I guess their holding out for Israeli sized campaign contributions.
Not even, say, Jared Kushner looking for cheap loans?
“America should not go about the world looking for monsters to slay.” John Q. Adams. There you have it. The US has boots on the ground in 130 countries. All empires die the same way, they go bankrupt.
Why either money or blackmail ( remember Jeffrey Epstein)
Maybe he will do a George W and land on one of those aircraft carriers with Bibi already on board. They could go water skiing. That would be a good photo op.
Kamala Harris approves this trip.
Deep state has decided to off old Joe
Let hope so. Sure a Kamala presidency would be a disaster. Perhaps even worse than Biden’s (if that’s possible), but, the entertainment value may be worth it.
The “entertainment value” will wear off when you go to the gas station and have to pay $12 a gallon.
Common man! Do you think Kamal energy policy could be any worse than Brandon’s?
The deep state tried nicely with him, but it didn’t work.
Now they decided he is worth more dead than alive.
Should make it a field trip for all the Democrats and at least 20 Republicans in the House
I suspect I could ask you “how’s the weather?” and get a reply regarding a liberal conspiracy that has secretly made it rain.
I’m not even sure why Mish is asking this question.
If Biden didn’t go, when a notoriously volatile leader for Israel is threatening an act of genocide in reaction to a terrorist act, it would be among the greatest foreign policy blunders in U.S. history.
He’d be assailed from both sides of the aisle – election = lost.
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Mish asks the question either because a) he’s vain enough to think his readers’ babble matters, or because b) he’s curious about how many tossers will throw around the term “genocide.”
Turn the plane around and go home 🏠
Let Israel take care of them selves
No problem, put the clown show on global tour. Lots of interesting possibilities. More important, for how long has the WSJ been issuing editorials with such flat-out contradictions in a single sentence: “. . . President Biden will visit the beleaguered nation with the aim of reinforcing American commitment to its security and addressing the spiraling humanitarian crisis in Gaza . . .” Or does the Journal elsewhere note the incompatibility of the two objectives?
What stood out for me was the “beleaguered nation” description. Poor Israel! It must be terribly stressing dropping bombs on civilians from their aircraft. My heart goes out to them.
I’d separate “Israel” and “Netanyahu”, Israel voted him out, he wormed his way back on a technicality, and sure enough – this.
Who else is going with him? Hunter, John Kerry, Blinken, Garland? That would indicate how expendable Biden is. Those orchestrating the trip wouldn’t risk their own lives.
I am 99% positive no one in here has ever conducted protective service details. I have for the USAF and served with the DSS in Afghanistan. A trip like this on two days notice is a complete nightmare and for the first time since Biden took office, his life is in real danger heading to the Middle East where every Mullah within 2000 miles wants the US and Israel wiped off the map.
Whatever diplomatic solutions he offers, they could’ve been done in any more neutral territory like the Eu. Heading into Israel does not make him a tough guy regardless of his run-ins with Corn Pop. This is real stuff. It’s not a joke folks, i’m serious. I feel bad for the Secret Service and diplomatic security, this is going to be a nightmare.
Ex-military as well, I respect your service and opinion on this topic.
That said, I think Biden needs to make a bold statement to both sides by being there and attempting to tamp down the anger.
For him & his detail, yes, extremely risky, but the impact would be much greasier in person, not outside from a safe distance.
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Nice, same to you brother.
It will, if successful.
We are at the precipice of a Great Power Conflict. A popular war is in order. The death of a President would take us over the edge.
It is interesting they have announced it in advance. He is also meeting Arab autocrats in Jordan.
The region had its last devastating earthquake nearly one hundred years ago in 1927. The main source of risk for earthquakes in that area is the Dead Sea faults, known as the Great Rift Valley. The Arabian plate moves north relative to the Sinai-Israel plate. Perhaps the arrival of Abraham accords is the time to uncover what was buried under when plates were overturned during the time of Abraham and his nephew.
Will Biden’s trip be carbon neutral?
I am worried that protected by two aircraft carriers and hundreds of planes buzzing around, the WH won’t be able to buy enough carbon credits.
I don’t see how the US doesn’t get droned. It’s almost like we are begging for it.
I noticed tons of social media bots over the last few days praising Biden’s “handling” of the Israel crisis.
So far he’s played a minuscule role in this, so I fail to see how the praise is warranted. By how many comments I’ve seen, I presume them to be bots (non-human accounts).
I notice he’s talking out both sides of his mouth. Supporting Israel and supporting Gazans at the same time.
Looks like he’s going to capitalize on this crisis by inserting himself right in the middle of it.
I wonder if the deep state might blow up Joes car while Joe is on a tropical island?
Its as crazy as Operation Northwoods.
But not as crazy as 911
I like using ON as a ref for idiots that refuse to believe because its reported ss fact.
The United States should not have taken the side of the terrorists. Hospital bombing is inexcusable.
The truth is that the hospital was bombed by a Hamas missile that [maybe] went out of control.
Yeah sure it was I’d expect a Hasbara creep like you to post such nonsense
And you know what happened …. how?
From that screen in front of your face, and what the people on it what you to believe.
You know nothing. You have faith. Faith is for fools.
Just to set the record straight – Israel didn’t bomb the hospital. It was a failed rocket shot off by Islamic Jihad.
But I know the facts of the matter don’t mean anything to you.
“My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with the facts.”
— R. S. Durstine, 1945
Plenty to disbelieve in the mis-guided missile theory implausibly invented by US and Israeli propagandists. As reported worldwide before the hospital collapse, Israeli Defense Force demanded hospital evacuation hours before the strike. IDF reserves also posted, then deleted, communications confirming a successful strike. Additionally, the hospital building was not hit, the parking lot was – IDF is targeting an enemy in tunnels.
Reminds me of the dancing Mossad guys in New Jersey who when arrested said they were there to “ document the event”
1) Israel is a small country. Biden may visit Gaza’s front line for trigger pictures to
show his support and courage.
2) Intel, Elta, IAI… are 10/20 miles from Gaza. NVDA, MSFT, IBM… are 20 miles
from Lebanon.
3) Israel eradicated the threats from the west bank. Gaza, the roach motel, is next.
4) Many of Israel’s best troops will not come back. Among them are Druze and Negev Bedouins. There are Arab generals in IDF. They will participate in cleansing Gaza,
showing their skills and courage.
Michael Oy vey you’re another psychopath
Custer had Indian scouts
Indian scouts who came from tribes that suffered from the Sioux and Cheyenne and were glad to stick it to them. Same thing with the Comanche who were hated by every other tribe in the Southwest.
Correct
Joe better avoid Palestinian hospitals!
I wonder if these creeps like jojo and Dicky Greene are actually artificial stupidity , I mean intelligence
Only if Kamala is on the plane with him.
Maybe Jeff Epstein will invite ole hair sniffing Joe over for a little pizza party while he’s in town I hear Hitlary and the Podestas are also in town
Mish,
Biden’s advisors must be getting nervous about the coming election. There is no rational explanation for this trip. The potential risks (for reasons you mentioned and others) far outweigh the gains on a purely geopolitical and even humanitarian basis. Physical presence is neither necessary nor warranted under present circumstances. A really dumb idea.
Is it a good idea to go? That depends on what he brings with him and what he brings back both of which I have no idea. As for his personal safety I am not worried about that. He will be landing at a base with air and missile cover and not driving through the center of Jerusalem in an open car.
In the meantime, we have two carrier groups offshore and a bunch of F-15s in Jordan with a Marine Assault group sailing in from the Persian Gulf. As a sign of support for Israel it would be hard to do better but if Iran wants we can do much more.
Yeah and get WW 111 started or is that the plan you psycho
Do you get paid in Rubles or in local currency? Is dental included in your plan or are you free-lance?
It’s probably in the best interests of Biden’s handlers … to greatly limit Biden’s exposure on the worldwide stage. Or is it?
What a peculiar move this is… as Dorothy …excuse me Biden, says to whomever he first sees upon his arrival in Israel, “I’ve a feeling we’re not in Delaware anymore.”
White House spin-doctors have already written multiple “post Israel visit” summaries of Biden’s visit. No doubt, the final script chosen will still require crisp editing revisions.
I like it You should write more
Biden: “I stand here to remind that world that the United States stands with the people of Iceland. errr… Ireland. And that, like we used to say in Scranton, PA, if I was younger, I’d punch Haiti in the nose for what they did.”
If he was younger a lot of people would knock his head off for what he’s done
Stupid visit from a safety perspective. All it takes is one missile or one long-range sniper that injures or kills Biden to start WW III.
Biden’s visit is also putting Israel’s move into Gaza to chase down the Hamas terrorists on hold, giving the media too much time to air stories about poor, “innocent”, suffering Palestinian children that are designed to tug on people’s heart strings.
All suffering children tug on my heart But maybe that’s because I’m human Obviously same cannot be said for many commenting here
Your so special. In your own mind, anyways.
No not special just give a shit about my fellow man
… so you shit on him at any opportunity to make yourself look good.
As Boris Grushenko mother said in Love and Death 1975, ” and I hope they send him to the front line!”
Biden’s photo ops in Israel wearing his aviators, flight jacket and a yarmulka will gather enough jewish votes to flip FL.
Sounds like his psychopathic brother W declaring victory over Iraq on the aircraft carrier They sure have a lot in common Both warmongers and brain dead
And Bush the Lesser carried FL! Kinda
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
We have many Jewish friends. To the best of our knowledge, only one couple votes Republican. Several of them emigrated here from Israel. Their choice of political parties is puzzling. They are all upper middle class or rich households. And almost all Democrats.
Republicans are openly hanging out with nazis. Doesn’t make any more sense for Jewish people to vote republican than trans people to vote republican.
Nothing makes any sense anymore Havent you noticed? It’s what are masters want Listen to some of George Carlins shows or what David Icke is saying in his latest
It’s such an asymmetrical war that the risk of going to the more powerful country should be pretty low. If Biden were making a trip to Gaza, then, yeah, that would be risky! But to Israel should involved very little risk. The order to stand down and let Hamas invade was rescinded a few hours after the “invasion”, so not to worry. ‘course, we can always hope!
Biden will not go
Israel is a war zone
And if Israel acts while Biden is there he will be considered either irrelevant or partly responsible for a massacre/
The only way to eliminate Hamas in gaza is to kill all the men. And Hamas, in underground tunnels, will be the last men killed. terrorists who do not wear uniforms and hide in tunnels under residential and commercial buildings WANT Israel to kill civilians so they can recruit more members.
Recent polls showed Hamas has about two thirds support in Gaza.
If I had the power, I’d consider having the Israeli military kill all males in Gaza. That is the only way to eliminate the Hamas animals. Muslims in the nations surrounding Israel will still hate Jews, but they might start fearing Jews for a change.
My alternate humane plan, with no deaths, would be for Israel to send cargo planes filled with garbage over Gaza City to dump that garbage in the streets until the hostages are free. Vermin love garbage, and a lot of vermin live in Gaza City. Human vermin.
Hey Dick speaking of Vermin have you looked in the mirror schmuck
What a brilliant comment. Send a copy to your mother.
Richard Green wrote “My alternate humane plan, with no deaths, would be for Israel to send cargo planes filled with garbage over Gaza City to dump that garbage in the streets until the hostages are free. Vermin love garbage, and a lot of vermin live in Gaza City. Human vermin.”
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Ha! That is a unique proposal. I like it. Abd keep the free aid supplies blockaded also.
You would like a psychopaths insane rant about slaughtering fellow human beings I’m not surprised and I’m sure other nutters will be quick to upvote your vileness
Mt comment demonstrated the ONLY way to eliminate Hamas in Gaza City would be to kill all males in Gaza. The alternate response of dumping garbage on Gaza City would kill no one.
Other choices for Israel, such as going into Gaza on the ground and killing some Mamas and some male civilians — they look the same — would have three serious problems:
(1) Many Hamas members would survive a ground war in the tunnels
(2) Hamas sharp shooters in buildings would pick off Israeli soldiers walking in the streets below.
(3) The Gaza civilian deaths would be used by Hamas to recruit more members than they had before the attack on Israel.
There is no easy solution for terrorism. Doing nothing is not an good choice. Israeli actions in 2014 did not work to eliminate Gaza terrorists.
The US genocide in Iraq in 2003 is evidence that the US does NOT know how to fight terrorism. Iraq was not involved in 9/11, so our attack was one of the worst genocides in history. The winner writes the history books and they do not always tell the truth about a war.
No Mossad was though Iraq and Afghanistan were BS Nearly everyone I know is aware of this fact
You have been reading the Book of Numbers, haven’t you. 31 and 32 in particular.
Kill the men, and the children will grow up to avenge them. This is exactly what is happening now.
To paraphrase a famous military commander when confronted by a close-quarters major battle in a nearby region: “Kill them all. Let God sort them out.”
… and that’s the thinking of people who only listen to pro-Israel media, never bothering to look at the background. I should know – used to be like that too.
You know, one could exchange “Hamas” and “Israel” and there you have an equivalent solution.
One real solution would be to force all the people over there to marry someone from the other team… Peaceful solution in one generation, and no two-state stuff needed no more! Of course there is the issue of that religion: will mixed-blood offspring still be choosen?
wow. a real live nazi on mish blogs. pro tip. nazis came and come in all colors and religions………in all generations. let’s exterminate the vermin. where did i hear that one Adolph Greene?we know you are taunting, but it does NOT negate your douche baggery. now let’s debate turning off the water, or putting gas in the showers…………Mish blog turned Nazi in 2023.
I was present in Warsaw for both Trump and Biden’s speeches and let me tell you the average Pole had very little love for Biden and that was in a relatively liberal city
I guess my question is
“Who convinced him this was a good idea?”
Probably either Hillary or Vicky Nudelmann
FJB probably thinks he’s going to a new ice cream stand.
And if he survives that, send him to Ukraine….
Good idea
Biden as bait – military industrial complex “wet dream” ….
- Normally, presidential trips to war zones are not announced in advance.
Makes you think that they may just want something to go wrong now doesn’t it? Nothing like using the good old standby of “Cause & Effect” to get the Job Done!
P.S. They forgot to mention All The Risk associated with Biden simply leaving his basement. For just some examples, how about these:
– I see Multiple Risk of Airplane Stairs
– I see Multiple Risk of Podium Adventures
– I see Multiple Risk of Speaking Incoherently
– I see Multiple Risk of Embarrassing Our Country
For starters…
When I mentioned to the girl in my hotel in Warsaw that Joe was in town to give a speech she simply rolled her eyes in disgust
I believe Israel was a mistake, so no good can come of this trip, but all the different religious looney-toons will keep this war going. GOD was supposed to re-establish Israel when he was ready, instead we try to foist this abortion off on people and call it God’s will.
God is something people make up to control, oppress and brutalize each other. Wherever you find godly people, you find secret perversion, hatred and atrocities… all the things they scream that everyone else is going to hell for, if they don’t do exactly as sock puppet god tells them.
Religion is a symptom of a host of mental diseases.
Agree I think the Catholics/ Jesuits are the worst but not sure I remember my father going on about this subject how the church would hold masses for criminals and mafia so long as they donated large sums to the church Don’t get me started on the protection of the sick ,twisted pedofile priests Total hypocrisy
hear hear. bully bully.
“God is something people make up to control, oppress and brutalize each other. ”
For a second there I thought you were going to type “Government…”
God and government are inextricably bound together in our kooky kountry.
The same could be said for most countries. Don’t think yours is special in that regard 😉
Watch out Benny will be downvoting you or saying that
His most important mission nowadays is trolling trump on truth social, and he can do that from anywhere. If he gets blowed up, the histrionics that will ensue when president Harris is inaugurated will be a source of infinite mirth.
FJB’s most important mission is to remind any sane minded person how freaking stupid people were to have voted for him, especially once he named Harris his VP.
Exactly. He had an opportunity to name a black lesbian and he blew it.
If I were a disposable body double I would not get on the plane. Let’s face it, the Global Debt Ponzi is entering the collapse phase and so that is why they want all this crisis, panic and WAR. What better way to whip gullible fools into angry, emotional, stupid military spending then for terrorists in the US government to kill the fake president and then blame it on Iran??
If I were a Satanic MF like they are that is EXACTLY what I would do. So many people are sooooo gullible that they think they can get away with anything now.
And they can get away with anything now Look at all the people who still don’t get what happened on 911 ( getting ready to be called a tin foiler by all the trolls)
Anything we say that is contrary to the Propaganda Narratives is an automatic signal that we will be known as QUACKS.
Yup black is white and up is down The world we now live in is sure a twisted , bizarre place People on here openly calling for a genocide and yet we are told doing so is criminal Double standards are the norm and I wonder what it will take to return sanity to our insane existences I for one am ready for the change
One downvote from Hasbara buddies
And here I thought the Dems were just hoping FJB would step aside or get impeached. But, they’re actually trying to get him taken out. Dang!
SCARY stuff! This thing could go sideways in SO many ways.
It’s all designed that way Kapeesh
Scary??? I say hopeful and possibly celebratory!
Anyone want to guess how many hours Biden will be sleeping on that 11 hour flight?
12 hours.
24
We can all speculate on whether it’s worth it or not in advance and it will all be that, just pure speculation.
Afterwards, we’ll have the answer to whether or not it was a good idea. If it helps diffuse tensions its worth while. If it ratchets things up it’s not. Or it could be a nothing burger in the grand scheme of things.
The Israelis aren’t going to like what he has to say.
Bibi is finished so Biden is meeting with the acting PM and can speak to him frankly and urge a tempered response to avoid a horrendous civilian bloodbath in Gaza
Why not? Do you suspect he’ll stumble over the script they give him?
The real reason Biden is going to Israel is to bring Palestinians and Israelis together so they can buy EVs made in America. Wake up guys!
There should be a “Made Me Laugh” button along with the thumbs’ buttons.
I enjoy and appreciate the humo here.
I am actually concerned that they are sending Biden to the wolves and worst case of course would actually be the absoulte best case for Democrats. They get rid of the problem and we go to full scale war. Every single American would back this effort if they hurt our sitting President. They would absoutely sweep the elections in 2024. They need something to make an impact and I think sending him to the middle of a war zone is the risk they are absolutely willing to take. Let’s face it. He does not have a lot of years left to begin with. And it would rally this country like 9/11 or pearl harbor no doubt about it.
Didn’t consider that angle but I agree Imagine Kamala as President No, me either
Harris the war president.
Two terms.
Im pretty sure several of us wont mind.
Doubt the general trajectory of the USA would change in the slightest.
Ah no! I think that WE collectively understand that we are being manipulated, propagandized and lied to about everything! If the prez trip goes wrong, it might initially be shocking – though not unexpected given the risks – but I doubt Americans would go to war over it. That being said, there are fools in the current Admin and overall gov houses who don’t seem to mind exposing the elderly to a war zone.
Yes yes yes please go asap Joe and take Niki Haley and some other warmongering psychopaths from our so-called gubmint with you Fly low under the radar
THE Democratic Federal Administrative States wants to bump Biden off and drag the USA into another war–kill two birds with one stone
Fredrick,
Great suggestion! Perhaps he can also take Lindsey Graham, Johnathan Greenblatt Howard Kohr and top representatives from the neocon think tanks.
And exchange them for hostages. That would make everything better.
Even in Hitlers Germany the soul of Germans was pierced. Many think the gas Chambers and Showers were for expediency and efficiency; but the truth was that it was hard to find even enough Germans to put a bullet into 6 million Jews, 17-20 million Russians civilians, and 2.8 million Russian POW’s that comprise the true totality of the holocaust.
The chambers were designed to depersonalize the death of millions, and required substantially fewer participants in their death.
Even some of the people who delivered the Atomic Bombs to Japan had a hard time with the consequences of their actions.
Even members of the Eighth Air Force who delivered Napalm bombs to Dresden could not live with their actions.
Today a Hospital was Bombed in Gaza Killing 500 people with numerous tragic injuries to children. The jury is out on who is responsible but a tragedy none the less.
MY Lord and Savior instructs us to pray for our leaders in Government , and my prayer is for them is the same as the prophets ” They shall beat their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.”
Choose this day whom you will serve, God or Mammon.
“And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.”
Nice Lord and Savior. (sarcasm)
You can see where the Israelis are coming from.
Thanks Lisa_Hooker
The story you tell has a remedy, and that was to put the Blood of a Lamb on your door post and the plague would Passover you. This was the beginning of Israel’s release from bondage in Egypt. The Blood of the Lamb was an allegory of the coming of Jesus and his Death on the Cross with ensuing Redemption for all mankind.
I am not trying to turn this into a theology forum, but it is important to realize what makes cultures tick and how it affects their judgement, and actions.
People for a long time have been trying to make sense of mankind’s inhumanity to others. All cultures adopt story lines into their cultures to explain thing both secular and non secular. Just look at the debates on Dinosaurs making oil, or climate change and you can see how divergent mythos can be. I can only attest to understanding the stories I am familiar with.
Woven throughout the Old Testament are allegories about God’s coming Redemption for Humanity. Passover is just one of them. The Last Book of the Old Testament was written some 400 years before Christ and is the Book of Malachi. The whole story kind of leaves everybody wondering What’s Next. So for the last 2400 years many people are still waiting, and relying on Rabbinical teaching.
Jesus comes on the scene around the year zero, lives for 33 years and is killed after his 3 year ministry. The last author of the New Testament was John who wrote on the Island of Patmos after being sent there by the Romans who viewed his type as a threat to Roman Rule. So for 1900 years many people have been relying on Priests for insight.
It can all become quite convoluted at a societal level, and probably only finds meaning at a deep individual personal level…. but make no mistake countries are deeply motivated by their Mythos in determining their next move.
Today I heard of a Christian Group who is making hot meals for Israeli soldiers near the Front lines before going to battle. They are trying to win Jewish people to Christ by this measure. I thought to myself… that makes no sense because at the same time they are alienating Palestinians to Christ in probably double the numbers. It just goes to show how defective ministries of all faiths can be.
“It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy.” – Mr. Carlin
Oh, and I forgot to mention that I don’t like the killing of innocent sheep just to smear their blood around by chosen folks whose leader cut a deal with the almighty without a democratic committee meeting.
Lisa Carlin was way ahead of his time Great man May he Rest In Peace