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Liz Cheney Ousted From Leadership, Over 100 GOP Leaders Threaten New Party

Liz Cheney Ousted

The Wall Street Journal reports Liz Cheney Ousted From House Republican Leadership

House Republicans ousted Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming from their leadership ranks in a closed-door meeting Wednesday morning, in an effort by the party to extinguish the most visible fight over former President Donald Trump and his role in the party’s future.

She was removed in a voice vote just about 15 minutes after the meeting started, the swift culmination of weeks of building tension within the House GOP.

“We are unified behind a single mission of winning back the majority and it was clear from the way that the vote occurred that 99% of our members are focused on that, so it’s time to move on,” said Rep. Jim Banks (R., Ind.), chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee.

“We cannot both embrace the big lie and embrace the Constitution,” Ms. Cheney told reporters after the vote, referring to Mr. Trump’s claims. “I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office.”

“We cannot let the former president drag us backward,” she said in the meeting, according to someone familiar with her remarks. “If you want leaders who will enable and spread his destructive lies, I’m not your person, you have plenty of others to choose from. That will be their legacy,” she said, taking a swipe at GOP leaders who have stood by Mr. Trump.

Fight Not Extinguished

Cheney was purged as expected the the fight was not extinguished as More than 100 Republican Former Officials to Seek Reforms, Threaten New Party.

The statement, set to be released Thursday, involves a “Call for American Renewal,” a credo that declares that it is imperative to “either reimagine a party dedicated to our founding ideals or else hasten the creation of such an alternative.” The push will include 13 yet-to-be-revealed principles that the signatories want the GOP to embrace.

A push to channel anti-Trump sentiment with the “Never Trump” movement in the spring of 2016 was largely unsuccessful at the time, and none of the people backing this latest effort are serving as elected Republicans. However, it comes as Trump’s pull within his party appears to have lessened. A recent NBC News poll found that 44 percent of Republicans said they support Trump more than the GOP, compared to 50 percent who said they support the GOP more than the former president.

One of the organizers is Miles Taylor, a former Trump official who, as “Anonymous,” wrote an op-ed in The New York Times blasting the Trump administration in 2018.

“We’re going give the GOP one last chance to get its act together and moderate, but we’re not going to hold our breath,” Taylor told NBC News. “We’re ready to get out there and fight against the radical elements in the party to try to excise those elements from within the GOP and our national politics and to try to invest in the deeper pro-democracy bench.”

Support for Trump Waning

The poll suggests support for Trump is waning even though Congressional leaders are foolishly out for revenge.

Of course, if you are a Trump supporter you probably don’t believe the poll.

Time Ran Out

Trump is 74 years old. He will be 78 at the next election. 

Trump’s time ran out. The clock expired on Bernie Sanders too. And this is the last hurrah for Joe Biden.

Aging Group of Dinosaurs

The future of the parties (all of them) is not an aging group of dinosaurs.

Trump had some good ideas and some bad ones. If he did not upset so many independents with unwise rhetoric he would still be president.

There is noting to be gained by supporting an aging group of dinosaurs.

Easy Goals

Blow Over?!

I expect this to blow over. 

But if there is a new party, even 10% support for it would kill Republican White House chances.

What About the Midterms?

The immediate concern for Republicans is what the splintering will do to the mid-term elections.

It is far too early to make any calls and much of it depends on Trump.

The more revenge Trump and the hard core supports seek the worse it will be on Republicans in the midterms.

It is foolish to fight each other instead of Biden.

Mish

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numike
numike
5 years ago

“One idiot is one idiot. Two idiots are two idiots. Ten thousand idiots are a political party.”

― Franz Kafka

Jackula
Jackula
5 years ago
We desperately need more political parties than these two. Several more parties of substance would be a good thing. I support taking both on with anti-trust litigation. I am so sick and tired of the mutt and Jeff game these parties play. 
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
5 years ago
Reply to  Jackula
How would a new party be different if it has to play the same games as the current 2 major parties ? The parties are for the most part. A reflection of America though we may not like to admit it. 
KyleW
KyleW
5 years ago
Reply to  Jackula
If the Republican Party splits into two smaller parties, it just makes it easier for the Democrats. The way our system is designed, I think it will always be a two-horse race.
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  KyleW
That has already happened. Even though Trump, himself, is a Democrat, he has managed to split the Republican Party by calling core Republicans “RINOs”, and trying to drive them out of the party. The result has been to make it easier for the Democrats. In the past, the Democrats had to run to the center (Clinton, Obama) or get slaughtered (e.g. Mondale, McGovern). For the first time ever, the Democrats ran to the left and won anyway.
Cocoa
Cocoa
5 years ago
It’s no worse than the Democrats and their splintering. Cheney was a piece of crap and the daughter of a warmongering cretin who got millions of people killed across the middle east
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
5 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Unlike the Republican party there is room for dissent and negotiation in the Democratic party.  The Republican party is the party of Trump. If you cant see that he is purging anyone that disagreed with him then you are blind. No current or former Democrat president ever did that. 
StickToEconomics
StickToEconomics
5 years ago
“It is foolish to fight each other instead of Biden”

ROFLOL; man that is rich.  Considering you pushed Biden.  You’re just mad you were wrong about Biden and you believed “the Big Lie” that Trump was some evil dictator.

You pushed Biden to win @ 78 and now claim Trump can’t win @ 78; what a hypocrite.  Trump has way more energy than Biden who speaks like a dottering old fool.   You get what you deserve!
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
5 years ago

You are an idiot. He supported Jo Jorgensen.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
5 years ago
To cretins such as OP, non-support for Trump = support for Biden.
Kick'n
Kick’n
5 years ago
What is the point of having more energy if you’re just going to use it incessantly lying? Any moron can go on and on spewing lie after lie. Hitler was good at that. Trump actually studied him. Narcissists think alike and they like to dominate whatever they do. If don’t think Trump would love to be dictator you’re a complete fool. And a dangerous fool at that. At least Biden is getting things done and not suggesting we drink bleach to ward off Covid.
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Trump was not an evil dictator. However, that was not by choice… he gave it his best shot.
As others said, Mish supported Jorgensen, as did I. She was by far the best candidate.
njbr
njbr
5 years ago
The party of delusion continues…
Today, Georgia Rep. Andrew Clyde, “Watching the TV footage of those who entered the capital and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and robes, taking videos, pictures. You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think that was a normal tourist visit.”
Today, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, “I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election.  I think that is all over with. We’re sitting here with the president today. So from that point of view, I don’t think that’s a problem.”
A party in denial of reality.
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
To quote Gozer, “The choice is made!”
mrchinup
mrchinup
5 years ago
What good Idea’s has Biden and the liberal oligarchs had so far? Open borders? 
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  mrchinup
Not staging a coup? That alone is enough for most people. That will be enough to get us to 2024, at which point hopefully the Republicans will offer someone not from the Trump wing. I’d hate to go all the way to 2028 under Biden.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
Biden will be pushing up daisies or drooling on himself by 2028. He’s a 1 term president so you’d be looking at whether or not Harris was electable.
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
That’s the point. If the Republican nominee is Trump, the corpse of Biden would win, Harris would win, or anyone else. The only way off this track is for the Republican party to wake up, but there seems to be no hope of that.
njbr
njbr
5 years ago
What to do?
A democracy with one party at a demographic dead end…
End democracy, that’s what.
mrchinup
mrchinup
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr
I agree! Civil war?
mrchinup
mrchinup
5 years ago
”Trump had some good ideas and some bad ones. If he did not upset so many
independents with unwise rhetoric he would still be president.”
We shall see how the AZ vote goes.  China and the oligarchs wanted him out so they created a virus, you know the rest of the story. Hey Mish, If Trump wins the AZ election would you admit the rest of the states with screwed up run elections should have a recount? Or it just doesn’t matter you hate Trump so much? This country is so much more screwed up since the criminal democrats took over and you say very little, what’s up with that? Go to the border and see the mess for yourself or don’t you care? 
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  mrchinup
Presidents are almost always re-elected in times of crisis, usually by landslides. You have to bungle them really badly to lose ground. Trump managed to bungle not one, but two.
Dutoit
Dutoit
5 years ago
Reply to  mrchinup
If Trump wins the AZ election maybe one should reconsider the “Trump lies”
lil_neezy
lil_neezy
5 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Wins the AZ election??….You do realize the election is over, right? States have the right to send their electors per their laws at MOST 5 months ago.
They did.
Do you disagree that there is a deadline for the states to declare winners of elections? Or perhaps you disagree that they have a sovereign right to carry out their own elections? That maybe you (or others) should have a right to decide who won or lost, many months after submission of results?
What is the “take” here?
Dutoit
Dutoit
5 years ago
Reply to  lil_neezy
The most important I think is not the concrete result of this action (who is the winner ?), but the disclosure of what really happened. If there was a fraud, this will affect the legitimacy of who got benefit from the fraud. 
Greenmountain
Greenmountain
5 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Assuming that this is a legitimate audit.  It is not.  The mockery continues.
shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago
Unwise rhetoric?  Maybe it was the flat out lying about absolutely everything and being completely detached from reality did him in.  Over 30,000 lies in 4 years. 
mrchinup
mrchinup
5 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
BS! Typical liberal lie. How’s Biden doing? Nice job with inflation, the border, pipe lines, shutting down gov land drilling for oil. You ready for the wars they are going to start? But, but but the orange man is bad. LMAO
shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago
Reply to  mrchinup
Stock market up 20%, best in history, and covid deaths down 80%.  What else is Tucker Carlson whining about?
Mike 2112
Mike 2112
5 years ago
Half the R voters support Trump against the DC Machine. 20% of D voters support Progressives against the DC Machine. And that 20% is young and will only get larger as time goes on. The remaining Uniparty wont be able to keep the “2 party” system forever.
Rbm
Rbm
5 years ago
It would be nice to see a republican party rise up that does not been over backward to the far rt base.   Maybe meet the dems somewhere closer to the middle and actually govern.  It seems now politics in the us has the same feel as a college football rivalry.    fanatical  fans and all.  
Dr. Manhattan23
Dr. Manhattan23
5 years ago
“The future of the parties (all of them) is not an aging group of dinosaurs.” Aging dinosaurs is 100% right. Part of this has to do with the old guard vs “new” guard. I think both parties will have to deal with this
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
5 years ago
Agreed.
Was talking to my friends and relatives in Canada over the weekend and they don’t really think much more of Biden than they did of Trump other than to note he’s more polite. Both are very old men now, so old they aren’t even Boomers but are instead part of the Silent Generation! There is no way they (plus other fossils like Pelosi) are remotely in touch with the average person any more.
We all agreed that there ought to be max age limits like there are minimum age limits. Ideally no one over 70 should be running for President/Congress/Senate so you could run at 69 even if your term took you into your 70’s, but once you reach 70, you can no longer run.
Tengen
Tengen
5 years ago
Tough to shed any tears for Liz Cheney regardless of political affiliation. The only sympathetic people would be staunch neocons and their ranks have dwindled considerably since the early to mid 2000s. I’m amazed someone can still get elected on the platform of continuing the Afghanistan and Iraq wars indefinitely!
Agave
Agave
5 years ago
The new Republicans (or Neo-Confederate Party) have become the party of the Big Lie. Their goal is to rule, not to govern according to any rational policy principles. Their methods are projection, gaslighting, lying, and doing whatever they can to promote white grievance and fear of the “other”. Authoritarianism is their goal. Read Hannah Arendt and The Origins of Totalitarianism and you’ll understand the playbook they’re following. They have no compunction about cheating through maximizing voter suppression in all the states they control so as many as possible of their opponents can’t vote. They know their party is shrinking and out of reasonable ideas, and their only method to counter it is to try to steal elections rather than develop more commonsense policies. Stop the Steal? Good god what rubbish. THEY are the ones trying to steal elections, and the irony that virtually no voter fraud was found (other than a handful of republicans who used their dead mother’s names to vote twice) is too rich to stomach.
They line up like a cult behind a grotesque old fool whose history is replete with lying, breaking the law then using every trick in the book to skirt accountability, molesting women, constantly trashing otherwise decent people, pretending that he has some religious principles while making fun of his dopey evangelical supporters behind their backs, bringing in loyalists to do his dirty bidding and firing them when they won’t, thinking and acting like he’s above the law, and whining like a baby child over just about everything. A complete malignant narcisist.
Worse, his followers have bought into this nonsense by acting like everything he says is true (inject bleach to kill Covid! 15 people have Covid and it will soon be Zero! No Collusion!….endless examples). They like him BECAUSE he’s crude, racist, sexist, a blatant liar who seems to get away with it, and joins them in trying to “own the libruls” (while they lose arguments and elections to these people they think they own). Worse yet, many of them actually believe this grifting nonsense cooked up by some dopey prankster called Q?
Cheney at least sees that the emperor has no clothes, and that his cultists are fully deluded and brainwashed, the danger they pose to democracy and our rule of law, and has the guts to say so. While Ted Cruz and minions lap up to the idiot who called his wife ugly and said his father killed JFK. This entire fiasco has felt like an article in the Onion.
I hope that the breakaway rebels are successful in creating a sane loyal opposition, for this one has disintegrated into insanity and dangerous lawlessness. All personified by their attempted insurrection to overturn what was professionally certified, by Dems and Rs in the states, as one of the fairest and least suspect elections in our lifetime. Ridiculous.
amigator
amigator
5 years ago
Reply to  Agave
Interesting and a lot of observations and truths. But there are many out here that supported Trump not for who he is but for whom he wasn’t. The country needs change and abandoning our past as if it was all wrong is not going to lead us where we need to go. I would vote for just about anyone that is not a “politician” and I believe there are many that feel this way many more the the figurines you highlighted in your post.
Mike 2112
Mike 2112
5 years ago
Reply to  Agave
Cheney is a lifelong politician who’s main purpose is to facilitate DC ruling over the rest of the country at the behest of their wealthy donors.
She’s part of the DC, Cheap Labor, Uniparty.
whirlaway
whirlaway
5 years ago
Well, there already exists a party for the anti-Trump right-wingers.  It is called the “Democratic Party”.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Do you know who Norm Thomas was?  He ran for President 6 times on the Socialist ticket. When asked why the Socialist Party eventually completely lost voter support in America, he responded that the Democratic Party had co-opted every one of his party’s platform planks. That was in 1944. 
I voted Democrat in the last, oh……eleven presidential elections…..but the idea that there is anybody remotely on the right (other than possibly on foreign policy issues and the military) in the Democratic Party….seems pretty far-fetched to me. Both parties are full of military butt-kissers. They have that much in common.
Was Ann Richards a right-winger?  I miss Ann Richards. 
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
No, it’s called the Libertarian Party. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
The party system is what needs to evolve. The “first past the post” nature of our system ensures that we have these “big tent” parties…..and there are some people in both tents that don’t have sense enough to pour piss out of a boot, even if it had instructions written on the heel. And those people are now in control on both sides of the aisle. The center is dead, and I need to find a new place to live. But I doubt I can make that happen.
I hope Mish and Ann Coulter are right. But I won’t stop worrying about Trump until he is pronounced dead, or Buffy drives a wooden stake into  his heart.
And I don’t like Biden much better. American politics has gotten to the “this really sucks” phase. 
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Removing the rinos is a necessary step. They are the old style Republicans and are part of the cabal who screwed things up the last twenty years. They are discredited. I am sure she sees herself as a heroine but she is just a tool of the Democrats. A resounding majority of the Republicans saw that and kicked her out. 
Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Trump is actually the true RINO. He’s a lifelong Democrat, and has been a perfect Trojan Horse gift to the Republicans, destroying them from the inside out. If not for Trump, the Democrats would have never had a chance of passing their Progressive Agenda. Trump, though, is more than that. He’s the gift that goes on giving. So long as he remains a force in the Republican Party, there is no reason for the Democrats to back off of their Progressive agenda, so it would appear that we have a few more years of this left.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Not sure you’ll see this with the new system, but I wanted to thank you for the George Friedman rec. Not a surprise he has a similar view to Peter Zeihan, since Zeihan worked for him at Stratfor. Friedman still lives here, although he’s retired from his day job apparently. I’ve been enjoying some good interviews about Friedmans’s book, although I have not yet read it….and also listening to his take on Russia and China, which are pretty instructive.
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
You are welcome. Where I worked around 2000 we used his services and were quite happy with his analysis of international relations. He sees things that others do not.
davebarnes2
davebarnes2
5 years ago
“The party has splintered.”
Nope.
The 2-party system is too ingrained in the USA psyche.
Voters and donors will be too confused.

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