Republican Sanity Sets In
Liz Cheney issued a blistering statement supporting the impeachment of Donald Trump. ‘There has never been a greater betrayal by a President’ says Cheney.
In response, the pro-Trump forces tried to do her in. They wanted Cheney removed from her leadership positions and even took a vote on it.
But look what happened: Liz Cheney Wins One for Sanity.
Liz Cheney won. She won’t lose her leadership position after her blistering statement supporting the impeachment of Donald Trump. The vote in the House Republican Conference Wednesday night wasn’t even close, it was reportedly 145-61. Her antagonists spent two weeks bragging they had it in the bag. She insisted on a vote and called their bluff. Suddenly people remembered: She was raised by a House whip.
What does it mean? It doesn’t turn the page on the Trump era in Congress but it does, tentatively, begin a new chapter. The pro-Trump group lost, and the We Exist in the Time After Trump forces won. The lopsidedness of the vote implies some sympathy for Ms. Cheney’s stand, or at least grudging respect for the idea of a vote of conscience.
The men who’d threatened her almost from the moment she backed impeachment were left looking like what they are—weak, emotional, spiteful and in the end incompetent.
Rep. Matt Gaetz, who swanned around in his Elvis hair in Ms. Cheney’s Wyoming in an attempt to whip up a movement against her, looked especially silly, and left the conference meeting with no statement for the press. Which is exactly how Joe McCarthy left after Margaret Chase Smith gave it to him full in the face on the floor of the Senate 71 years ago.
Parties have reputations. We are probably already seeing repercussions. In Arizona and Pennsylvania, thousands of voters have dropped their GOP registration.
Trump Comeback?
Pro-Trump forces still believe their “Messiah” will return.
Admittedly, Trump might not be convicted in the Senate impeachment trial. But that does not guarantee “Resurrection”.
By a 145-61 vote House Republicans said it is fair game to call for the impeachment of Trump.
Let that sink in.
Trump’s Legal Nightmare About to Begin
There are criminal charges on deck against Trump in Georgia. Civil and possibly criminal tax evasion charges are upcoming in New York.
I expect a flood of civil charges elsewhere. Trump’s legal nightmare is about to begin.
The Trump era may not be over, but Trump is no “Messiah” nor will he miraculously rise from the dead.
Mish
The anti-establishment movement is NOT dependent on Trump. A quick look around the world proves it. How ironic, yet predictable, that the faux anti-war Mish would prop up the war-mongering Cheney.
SICKENING SYCHOPHANTS (nice alliteration) , we have a saying in dutch expressing a similar cowardly attitude : Howling with the wolves in the forest… Btw, WHY does
socialist CNN no longer show the Corona ticker ?? Everything hunky-dori already under Biden?? Yeah sure !
My link is getting sanitized…. try (hashtag)MattGaetzHair
It’s the same scenario I have with John Cornyn….ten years ago he looked like a corporate tool….Now, compared to Ted Cruz, he looks positively moderate.
Do I like a Liz Cheney better than I like Marjorie Tayor Greene? Hell, yeah…Liz Cheney lives on the same planet I do…..Green lives in an alternate universe of her on making….with a whole lot of other delusional morons…… May the saints preserve us.
So yeah…..gimme Darth Vader’s daughter….please.
Marjorie Taylor Greene for POTUS?….Bwahahahaha.
Yeah……..Greene and Flynn…on the dumb-and-dumber ticket in 2024.
Screw that , Alfred E Newman / Mickey Mouse 2024
Marjorie Taylor Greene for President 2024
That c@nt?
Liz is still a GOPer. Nope. Never voting for a GOPer again. Never.
I don’t know that it was a strong rebuke of Greene and an embrace of Cheney…
…The ascendancy of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), and Republicans’ lack of willpower to punish her, speaks volumes about where the party still is even after President Donald Trump’s defeat.
Only 11 Republicans joined the entire House Democratic caucus to strip her of her committees Thursday night; by contrast, 61 Republicans voted to demote Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) for voting to impeach Trump for inciting the Capitol attack.
That the Trump-Greene sect of the party has such power and support does not necessarily portend future electoral success. After all, during Trump’s term alone, Republicans lost the House, Senate and White House. In particular, they lost both seats in a double-barrel Georgia Senate runoff that, by all historical precedent, they should have won.
With the 2022 midterms on the horizon, again a cycle that historical trends suggest should be good for the GOP, there is a niggling concern that the loud, extremist part of the party could give Democrats their best shot at staving off the onslaught.
Are we seriously looking at the Cheney family as paragons of political virtue? I’ll take Trump over the Cheney’s blood soaked hands thank you.
I won’t support a political party that allows someone like Liz Cheney in leadership. GOP deserves to have Dems get major gains in 2022.
From Nov 1, Politico…she’s made enemies…
….Now, however, his 54-year-old daughter—whose devotion to an unapologetically muscular foreign policy is every bit as ardent as his own—has emerged as one of the Republican Party’s fastest-rising leaders.
She has also managed to do that while being one of the few Republicans to repeatedly reprimand Trump and his allies—on everything from abandoning the Kurds to criticizing former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch to sowing distrust of Dr. Anthony Fauci—without completely alienating them. Her sharp wit in swatting down GOP firebrand Jim Jordan, known for his frequent challenges to House leadership, when he and several members questioned her loyalty to Trump—“I look forward to hearing your comments about being a team player when we’re back in the majority”—became a hit among many of her Republican colleagues who long ago tired of Jordan’s tactics.
They also quietly cheered her “there, there” put-down of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) at the same meeting, when she responded to his barrage of criticism by telling him how much she was looking forward to watching his upcoming HBO documentary but that filming a documentary isn’t how Republicans win back the majority. After the meeting, Gaetz tweeted in frustration that Cheney ought to be removed from her leadership position. She wasn’t. He declined to comment further.
It’s a pipe dream that she becomes the face of the Republican party. She won’t win her next primary. Like Mitt Romney, she represents the corporate Republican wing who are indistinguishable from the corporate Democrats. Bloomberg is another example. These are the ones who voted policies that favor the destruction of the middle class and got us into this mess. I say good riddance to them.
Trump wasn’t that bad. Certainly better than Joe but that’s not hard, Joe has no idea he’s president still. What you’ll find is Trump tried to stop China from taking over, taking our jobs literally. Joe is owned by China and that should scare you. I’m not antichina in anti CCP. I could care less if China’s economy is larger. What I do care about is a level playing field and a government trying to protect our jobs… Biden or should I say president Harris ain’t those people. You’ll see, back to hollowing out of America, corruption running rampant and you voted for it because Trump said stupid things… Congrats, literally the end if America.
Between bad logic and bad English, your point is lost
On the one hand, Biden is this Godzilla wielding Executive Orders at a frightening clip, and on the other hand “has no idea he’s president.”
Wasn’t Godzilla a dumb fire-breathing dinosaur that loved burning down Tokyo about 20 times? An other metaphor might be better.
Decades ago I opposed such liberal global trade agreements, especially with China, I knew it was going to crush labor demand here if we ran in without a plan, and we did just that, sure enough it crushed jobs here..
That said, it’s irreversible, the bell can’t be un-rung, and that’s the mistake of the Trump cohort, China-hating isn’t a plan, in fact, it’s economic suicide at this late stage.
We need to look forward to make a plan, not backwards….we lost huge in Agriculture trade with China, thanks to Trump’s knee-jerk illiteracy, we have to reverse that asap.
Tariff’s only hurt workers who are also consumers, the same folks who were already hurt by global trade to begin with, a completely self-defeating act, put your nose back on, your face needs it.
Where is the big drop?
Overall agriculture exports were broadly stable, less sales to China were made up elseware.
“Overall agriculture exports were broadly stable, less sales to China were made up elseware.”
This is extremely good news, means we get that $46 billion in Trumps taxpayer farm subsidies back, YES!
Talk to Biden for that.
Talk to Biden for that. He is the one giving favors now.
“Talk to Biden for that.”
With this being your default response to Trumps mistakes, then thank you for acknowledging Trump’s mistakes need be undone by Biden.
Not knowing how much Biden can do, it’s at least calming to see he immediately began reversing Trump’s executive orders once in office.
As to prices in recent months, everything’s up in commodities, metals, softs, grains, this is short term (we hope) inflation.
Farmers having to sell elsewhere actually cut into price, there was nothing gained in the trade war, the tariffs only hurt us, period, those are taxed on arriving goods and passed to us, not China.
The graph is of total money value of the exports. That means that overall income from farm exports were stable although the mix of products changed. Some went up and some went down. I see you are a believer in totally free trade. I used to but now I do not and I came to that conclusion way before Trump. You believe what you want and I will do the same. There is no common ground between us. I do not acknowledge anything from Biden because he hasn’t had time to do anything yet except a few executive orders. Time will tell.
” I see you are a believer in totally free trade.”
Scroll up 8 comments, to what I said.
At inception, I opposed free trade, problem now is we can’t reverse it – our entire labor pool, consumer market, is altered irreversibly since inception, no going back.
What Trump did was akin to, say, appealing to the baby-boomer demographic by outlawing color TV’s.
As to price stability, farmer incomes, the $46 billion Trump outlayed for farmers as ag prices plummeted when China reacted certainly helped, but the tariff’s, again, are imposed on us, not China….it only served to increases price on American consumers, a sneaky backdoor tax on us, not China.
Conservatives don’t do that. Until now.
I am more a follower of Hamilton when it comes to trade policy. Certain industries which change over time are vital to the security and wellbeing of the country. In a perfect world it wouldn’t matter but we do not live in a perfect world and it is definitely not peaceful. I believe that we need a solar panel industry in the US otherwise the knowledge, expertise and profits will not be here but in other countries some which would not hesitate to use their monopoly to extract concessions. If tariffs help keep the jobs and the expertise here then they are good. Letting whole vital industries be gutted inevitably leads to immiseration, a large increase of government transfer payments financed by higher taxes and an angry population. It’s a choice and not inevitable.
“If tariffs help keep the jobs and the expertise here then they are good.”
Again, that bell can’t be unrung.
A Foxconn worker in Hengyang makes $19 a day, do the math, how much tariff would it take to equalize that with U.S. wages?….How much would it cost for a cell phone then?
You are absolutely right. China is not to blame, your lousy politicians are. Ross Perot said there would be a sucking sound of jobs leaving America and he was right. The corporations gave our politicians money, hookers and blow and they did their bidding. China rising whether you, Biden, Trump or anyone likes it. They value education, hard work, discipline and increasing the Middle Class. The Democrats and the Rupublicans (by just a hair) value corporate and elite control, destruction of Middle Class, police states, propaganda, race antagonism, and a myriad of other subversive policies. At least you know where you stand with the Chinese whereas your government lies to you and tells you that you are free.
Lionizing ardent Neo-Con Liz Chenny…nice work Mish. Have you forgotten her unwavering support of every disastrous overseas intervention of the past 20 years, costing countless lives, and creating an endless mountain of debt??? But all that is forgiven I guess. TDS Trumps all.
The party is clearly still in a state of Fuhrerprinzip but just to be cynical or a moment a few Republicans are testing the water to see if anti-Trump sentiment has a chance. Liz Cheney and Benn Sasse are two such voices. While I welcome the comments and am not suggesting the comments are insincere I do think there is a political calculation at play. Ben Sasse for example never voted for impeachment the first time around. I don’t believe January 6th was a rubicon event, It was bad but Trump’s been worthy of impeachment for four years now.
Don’t get too excited what do they say the apple never falls to far from the tree? We have to invade Iraq WMD’s I think that is her fathers claim to fame. If she wasn’t talking down Trump no one woke be giving her a second thought (our lap dog media). Cheney is the old guard return to this not we want.
Political dynasties generally produce subpar politicians although there are exceptions she is not one of them.
He’s the war criminal who trumped up the Middle East forever wars in 1990 and 2003 – to the present, do I have that right, Mish?
Dick Cheney – yes
If the party spread is beween Cheney and Greene (or beyond)…
“ The republic which sinks to sleep, trusting to constitutions and machinery, to politicians and statesmen, for the safety of its liberties, never will have any,” Wendell Phillips
All a distraction end of story
Its seems most of them are trying to play both sides. Voters at home / republican party at work.
And they need to be called out on this — the only way sanity takes root is if the repudiation is broad based and deep.
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I tell you how trump will be back…..Stronger than ever…The video game name is “The revenge of the Clown”
“Orange Invaders”
I don’t think he will be back, but I think he will bring a new media to America that will usher new leaders to the political system. The Democrats and most Republicans are a poison to this country and the Constitution.