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Senator Wicker Won’t Rule Out a Nuclear Strike of Russia Over Ukraine

Nuclear War Insanity

Wicker’s office clarified that the senator is not advocating for the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. 

Well la de da. This is still pure insanity. For starters, Ukraine is not even a member of NATO.

Yet, the US has 200 National Guard troops in the country.

It was US meddling in Ukraine, proposing it be a member of NATO that led to Russia taking back Crimea. 

Crimeans are Happy with Russian Annexation

A year ago the Washington Post (not in the least a Russia supporter) reported Six Years and $20 Billion in Russian Investment Later, Crimeans are Happy with Russian Annexation.

The lead image is from this article. 

In Crimea itself, the annexation was popular, especially among Crimea’s large population of older ethnic Russians. More than five years later, and billions of rubles of investment later, it remains popular.

Numerous polls supported this conclusion. In December 2014, the Levada Center, Russia’s most reliable polling company, conducted a survey for us in Crimea that affirmed these findings. Our analysis of these survey results used the term “Crimea conundrum” to describe the disjuncture between the legitimacy of Crimea’s new status to most of its residents and its illegitimacy within the international community.

Radio Free Europe Polls 

Please consider Post-Maidan Ukraine Opinion Polls

Radio Free Europe’s own numbers show that – without a shadow of a doubt – that overwhelming majority (in some cases 50-to-1) of Crimeans feel that their secession was legitimate, that Russia is playing a positive role in Ukraine, and that the United States should not play a role there at all.

As for NATO, even in the West of Ukraine, just shy of 50% of Ukrainians in that extremely pro-Western, pro-EU region believe the country should NOT join NATO. This is less than two months after the EuroMaidan took place, basically at the height of nationalist feeling. And Ukrainians even in the west of the country felt that NATO membership was not desirable (in the rest of the country, anti-NATO sentiment ran anywhere between 60% to 90% (excluding Crimea).

Predictable Results

The US meddled in Ukraine, with predictable results: Something bad happened. 

Everywhere the US meddles something bad happens (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Iraq, and Libya) immediately come to mind. 

Russia Does Not Want US Missiles in Ukraine

The US did not want missiles in Cuba, its backyard. And Russia does not want them in Ukraine, it’s back yard. 

The US stirred up a hornets nest proposing Ukraine become a member of NATO. 

Ukraine is a European Issue 

If the EU wants to defend Ukraine, that’s its business. It’s not worth the loss of one US soldier. 

Yet here we are. Outright military nut cases want to defend Ukraine with all means necessary even nuclear weapons which no doubt would get a nuclear response in reply. 

Should We Accept There are Problems in the World the US Cannot Solve?

On November 19, I asked Should We Accept There are Problems in the World the US Cannot Solve?

The answer, of course, is hell yes. 

Failure to Address the Question

Failure to correctly answer that question led to the US losing two wars. The first was Vietnam, the second in Afghanistan.

Neither was our issue and ultimately US voters turned against each war.

But problems go far beyond absurd wars based on lies.

Trump placed sanctions on Russia and European companies over Nord Stream 2. The result was that Nord Stream was completed anyway, by Russia with help from Merkel.

If Germany wants to cut a deal with Russia over natural gas, that’s their call, not ours.

Nord Stream, Taiwan, NATO

Nord Stream was never our battle and we should have stayed out of it.

Apparently the EU and Germany are at odds over Taiwan. That means the US cannot count on the EU for coordinated support against China.

So why is it that US taxpayers should foot the bill for soldiers in Germany, Poland, and the EU in general?

Whose battle is it? 

Trump threatened to cut funding for NATO. He also said he would pull all troops from Afghanistan. 

He should have. But he was all talk and no show. 

We made a mess in the Ukraine by foolishly attempting to convert it into a NATO country.

The wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan speak for themselves. ISIS was a direct result of a foolish attack on Iraq.

None of this meddling ever did the US any good. 

Correct Focus

Whether a problem is solvable or not is actually not the correct focus.

The EU and the US both need to admit there are problems beyond their control in which meddling is likely to make matters worse.

For starters, the US cannot afford to be the world’s policeman and should not even try.

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jiminy
jiminy
4 years ago
We can easily defeat the red Army.  Just send our Obama military to fight a ground war.  Trannie generals and overweight girl platoon leaders can lead.  The Russians will die laughing.
Democritus
Democritus
4 years ago
‘None of this meddling ever did the US any good.’
Yeah… true… so? I t did Israel good, having a super power throw some countries back into the stone age. In the end, getting a high position in the government means impressing AIPAC, as with finance plus media favorable the voter will follow.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Senator from…  Mississippi?    OK, that explains it!    They are still living in the 18th century.  Or the 17th.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“Whose battle is it?”
The Empire. Nordstream 2: a clash of empires. Ukraine: a clash of empires. Syria: a clash of empires. Taiwan: a clash of empires.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
Wicker is an appalling dimwit.
Stand off ships in the Black Sea?
Pretending he know something about military operations?
The Ships would all be sunk in minutes by coastal defense missiles.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
Mish needs to understand that we are in Ukraine and Syria because Saudis want us there. We are in Ukraine to cut off natural gas access to Russia.
We are in Syria to weedwhack a path for the Qatar/Syria pipeline.
Any American life is worth it for corporate interests…like Iraq!
Afghanistan ironically we had no interest in but were forced to invade. We left and now China is getting all the rare earth metals.
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
4 years ago
Trying to equate nuclear missiles actually in Cuba to a nebulous ‘Ukraine might someday try to join NATO and if it does then someday NATO might put nuclear missiles in Ukraine” is beyond crazy.  Sorry.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Secretary Baker assured Gorbechev that NATO would not take one step east. NATO subsequently took several steps east.
it is not really nebulous to speculate that Ukraine might join NATO. It is if anything, a logical extension of the U.S. empire.
Anon1970
Anon1970
4 years ago
Crimea was part of the spoils of a war in which Russia defeated the Ottoman Empire back in 1783, which is 4 years earlier than the adoption of the original US constitution. Sevastopol is Russia’s only warm water naval base which it continued to lease from Ukraine after the breakup of the Soviet Union. There was no way the Russians were going to allow Sevastopol to become a NATO naval base and Victoria Nuland should have known this before she promoted the Maidan Revolution back in 2014. It is too bad that Biden didn’t understand this before he nominated Nuland for a high level State Department post after he was sworn in as President.  
davidyjack
davidyjack
4 years ago
The US should not put a militarily umbrella over Ukraine.  The  US in conjunction with the EU should put an economic umbrella over Ukraine.    That is to say that if Putin invades Ukraine there will be serious economic consequences for Russia.
Anon1970
Anon1970
4 years ago
In the space of about 4 years after the Maidan Revolution, Russia drew up plans for a bridge link from Crimea to Russia, awarded contracts to a construction firm with ties to Putin and completed the bridge for auto and truck traffic in 2018. Rail traffic started in 2019. By comparison, it took 25 years to reconstruct the eastern span of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge after the Loma Prieta Earthquake in 1989. You can read about the Crimea bridge on Wikipedia. 
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
General, er … Senator Jack Ripper … oh, wait what … Wicker??
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
John Wick is his son. He changed his name a bit to get into his highly-specialized line of business .
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Another Christian talibani chomping at the bit for The Rapture.
If only god could call these loonies home without destroying the planet…
Blurtman
Blurtman
4 years ago
On January 5 Joe Biden quietly announced the nomination of Victoria (“F**k the EU!”) Nuland as Deputy Secretary of State for Political Affairs.
Who voted for this idiot?
Anon1970
Anon1970
4 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman
She was confirmed by the Senate a few moths later.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Our opposition to Nord Stream 2 makes no sense. Our politicians say we’re against it because it gives Russia influence over Europe. But, we’re perfectly fine if the same Russian gas flows through Ukraine. So if it goes straight to Germany, that’s a big problem. if it goes through Ukraine to Germany, that’s fine. Too bad the Baltic Sea isn’t a country, because then their gas companies could hire Hunter Biden and we would be OK with gas flowing through it.
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
in the same time US imports a lot of russian oil….
Anon1970
Anon1970
4 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
I didn’t know that. But didn’t Biden block the completion of an oil pipeline from Canada soon after he was sworn in as President?
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
This is energy equivalent to one half of german imports of gas from Russia
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Yes, not much as I said. 
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
To pathetic little nothings increasingly impotent and little more than cornered laughingstock, I suppose “talk hard and carry a small {pretty much anything anymore}” increasingly seems like the only option left….
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
After having read several books on Putin over the last decade, it emerged this week that former President Bush and his staff suffered Havana syndrome when meeting with Putin once during the Bush presidency. There is a grand canyon size difference between what US intelligence knows and what a blogger knows about Putin but we now have real information that Putin likely is responsible for Havana syndrome. There is also much other evidence that points to Russia as the instigator behind many unknown events over the last two decades since Putin has been in power. With Putin it is a deal with the devil the Crimeans have made. Other countries are making similar mistakes. Some have realized it and reversed course. Misinformation has been Putin’s MO since he saw the Berlin wall fall from the KGB office in Dresden. 
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
the US should STOP poking the bear ! Mish gives us a exact, eloquent and rational explanation ,  I ll say it my way , get your fat**** out of Ukraine, it is NONE, absolutely none, of your fkn business, neither were all the other countries where you tried and failed  to impose regime change leading to nothing but FAILURE and distress !   The mere fact that one of your neocon mfng ***holes even mentions the possible use of nuclear arms, shows us exactly what a rotten to the bone, desperate, criminal, deepstate run cesspool the US  actually is !
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
One senator says something stupid and you go ballistic. Perhaps you are overreacting to what one man said? You are reacting as if you were a Russian national and not a Flemish national.   Most people from Belgium I know could care less what an American senator says.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Pretty sure you work for the CIA.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
He’s also a lizard person.
bobcalderone
bobcalderone
4 years ago
Havana Syndrome is psychogenic illness. It’s not the Russians zapping Americans with microwaves
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
When did Wicker become president?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago

Putin and
Xi must be scared a lot by Biden not because Biden is a master strategist but
because Biden’s mental acuity, or more accurately his lack of, can bring him to
do unpredictable things. As president he is in control of our nuclear warheads
and on whom we launch them and sometimes people in his “condition” can become
suddenly aggressive for no reason. I am not being facetious.

Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
This politician is completely ignorant. He believes that we are still 30 years ago, with a great supremacy of US armament. It is no longer the case. Russia has now hypersonic missiles that US would be unable to intercept. If you send atomic bombs to Russia you will receive atomic bombs. Military men know that, but politicians don’t.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Sure you can intercept them. 
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Maybe some, but not all. They only have to deliver a few dozen of their thousands to end us.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
First of all they do not have thousands of hypersonic missiles and secondly we can the same to them as they do to us. That’s the MAD doctrine. 
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
They don’t need to be hypersonic. Any ICBM would do the trick.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Yep
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
4 years ago
Well, here we are at a point where:
A) One can trust no video of a politician posted by an opponent.
B) Such videos seem so believable.
C) Crazy-sounding videos may be an undistorted reflection of reality.
I’m tired of looking in to this sort of thing and finding out it was all political, power-play BS. So I don’t do that any more.
Anyway, as to the larger point, we should ask this of any “that was a mistake” (e.g. Iraq, Afgan, etc) assertion: “Compared to what?”
For instance, how should international policing be handled instead of the US playing cop?
Too, back to Ukraine: I was under the impression that the US made a deal with Ukraine at Soviet Union collapse time: You turn all your many, many nukes over to Russia and we’ll protect you from Russia so you don’t need the nukes. Does anyone know whether that was the deal? How were Soviet nukes divvied up at the time?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
The Ukraine gave up it’s 1,700 nuclear warheads and the corresponding delivery systems in exchange for guarantees of sovereignty and territorial integrity from the US and Russia. The Budapest Memorandum signed in 1994 by the US, Russia, the Ukraine and Great Britain sets this out. Putin violated the agreement by invading the Ukraine which is why we and NATO are helping the Ukraine. How far we will go is something I don’t know. How far will Putin go is also unknown to me but I do know that doing nothing is probably not a good alternative.
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Did the Budapest Memorandum forbid financing “color revolutions” in Ukraine ?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Of course not. It did not forbid revolutions, rebellions or elections either. Each side is free to influence whom they wish if they can because that is reality. Territorial invasion is another matter and the Memorandum clearly forbids that. After WW II every country in Europe officially renounced territorial revindications even if those territories contained populations that are of similar language or descent of the revendicating country. It was a very good way to eliminate the major causes of war between the countries. The Memorandum was just a continuation of that philosophy and since Russia signed it everyone expected them to honor it but Russia did not so the NATO countries started to help the Ukraine which is what the Memorandum permits if the Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty is violated and for some reason Russia expected the Ukrainians to fold and they didn’t. Russia also expected other countries in Europe to do nothing but they supported the Ukraine. Putin started the war and it hasn’t gone the way he thought. He can neither go forward nor backward. 
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
And Kosovo ? This was not a part of Serbia ?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
It was part of Yugoslavia which broke apart in violence and civilian massacres and has nothing to do with how the Soviet Union broke apart. The Soviet Union split up without violence and with negotiated and mutually recognized borders. It was a civilized process and until Putin’s decision worked very well.
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
No, Kosovo was a part of Serbia after the end of Yugoslavia.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Historically before Yugoslavia existed Kosovo was part of Serbia but they lost the demographic war through Muslims having a higher birthrate. When that happened the province was lost. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Expect severe sanctions that freezes all Russian oligarch money on the international financial system. Putin must be dealt with soon.
Dutoit
Dutoit
4 years ago
The only consequence of such sanctions will be to strengthen the relations between Russia and China. US is not strong enough anymore to dictate anything.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
China has Russia’s Far East as a hostage and Russia cannot protect it without going nuclear so Russia hasn’t much choice in the matter.  
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Who knows what it will bring? Most EU countries are not at all happy with Russia’s actions in the Ukraine either. 
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Signing pacts to go to war, “helping” other countries far into some unknown future, is not one of “We” ‘s enumerated powers.
Instead, “we” are forbidden from entering into entangling alliances. Promises of wasting American’ lives halfway around the world being about as entangling an alliance as a dimbulb can dream up. Even if “we” may have disregarded that at some point; just so that “we” could preen around and play bigshot with other people’s money, and other people’s childrens’ lives: whatever “we” then did, is always and everywhere, full stop, no exceptions, completely, 100% invalid. Hence irrelevant.
Any individual “we” who did sign up for the nonsense, is free to take his own money, his own guns and his own sons, and head over there for a shootout with Putin, of course.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  StukiMoi
The Memorandum does not say there is a war obligation. There is just an obligation to help which of course can mean just about anything. Also I find your post confusing. It would be better that you come out and say what you want instead of resorting to gobbledygook. Are you a “We” or a “They”? 
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
“Obligations” are in and of themselves entangling. Hence off the table. Whether some place called Ukraine even exists or not, or for that matter ever existed, is irrelevant to any legitimate government in North America sticking to a properly minimal interpretation of strictly enumerated powers.
The last, I suppose perhaps seemingly contradictory paragraph, just refers to it also being irrelevant for such a minimal government, whether it so happens that some individuals who want to go fight in some place called Ukraine, happen to be US citizens or not.
The place, as well as whatever, if anything, goes on there, is simply no concern at all, for a properly limited US government. Whatever happens there.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
NOPE !  Putin ‘invaded’ Ukraine , (he didn t actually but if you want to put it that way that s OK)  because NATO wanted to ‘conquer’ yet another ex sovjet by orchestrating another fkn coup, like in Georgia if I remember well  !  This time Putin drew a red line , he was absolutely right to do so !!  
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
You want to know what I really think? I believe Putin fell into a trap either one of his own making or one made by others. By doing what he did he made a dire enemy out of the only people who have a common history, similar language, customs and institutions as well as blood ties to Russia and who because of these factors have a natural affinity for Russia. Normally they should be natural allies but thanks to Putin that is gone now at least for a generation and maybe more. 
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
you blame it on Putin himself, I blame it on NATO and CIA…. Resting our respective  cases is all we can do ,I am afraid ….and hoping that the increasing conflictive tension doesn t get  out of hand ….I live at 25 kms from NATO headquarters,  1not very accurate strike by Russia and adios !  🙁   Never say never….
of hand …..
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Well that would solve the Flemish-Walloon problem wouldn’t it?
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
got a ‘nice’ answer, in french : va t faire foutre !   ps : aware of your rather short fuse, I d say, take it with a pinch of salt ;-
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

J’adore les Belges et moules frites est un de mes plats préfère. 

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
have you ever visited the belgian coast ? Tous ces restaurants la, specialisés en  Anguilles, moules, soles, crevettes grises….. et la raie, oooh ! ….délicieux !
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Yes I have! Been to Bruges a couple of times and I love all seafood. My wife is from the coast of Brittany so I know all that delicious stuff. 
Call_Me
Call_Me
4 years ago
One can only imagine what those members of the National Guard currently stationed there think about some senator cavalierly talking about a first-strike option.  Surely this isn’t what they signed up for when the went to spend one weekend a month training to help their neighbors.
Christoball
Christoball
4 years ago
It is now several days after Pearl Harbor day and I am reminded that it took two Atomic Bombs to turn the Japanese into a peaceful camera loving people. I do not think that A bombs will turn the Russians into peaceful camera loving people. It will require a different approach.
Call_Me
Call_Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
It has lasted for the better part of a century, but the simplistic story about the U.S. needing to use atomic weapons to end WWII in the Pacific really needs to end.  There were political wranglings before the summer of 1945 and a lot more destruction than just those two bombs. This is the kind of history that needs to be re-written in the States.
Christoball
Christoball
4 years ago
Reply to  Call_Me
Tell that to the vets that fought on Okinawa. The Japanese enjoyed their vicious culture throughout Asia and the Pacific for nearly 10 years before the bomb. Their Emperor had cult like status. Their military rule was completely dominant. They could have said Uncle after the fire bombing of Tokyo but their pride and foolishness got in the way. Those who try and rewrite history are destined to repeat it. I cannot think of a more benefactor conqueror than the US in occupied Japan.  We truly helped them find purpose and photography is not such a bad hobby.
Call_Me
Call_Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
Ah yes, the benevolent nation that obliterated large swaths of the countryside, an unknown number of civilians, and has maintained a substantial military presence in the country to this day.  100% virtuous.  Yes, part of the issue that the emperor was a pseudo-deity.  There wouldn’t have been any harm coming to U.S. interests if some face-saving happened, but then there wouldn’t have been an opportunity to start the nuclear era and establish a military presence west of Hawai’i.  That’s the point, a lot of the fighting, sacrifice, and suffering should have been avoided.  That doesn’t denigrate a grunt, it condemns leaders and decision-makers.
No qualms saying my piece to those who fought on Okinawa.  There is a difference between the motive/action of those actually doing the fighting and those sitting behind a desk engaged in political wrangling.  Similarly, I would have no objection to telling someone who soldiered in Iraq that they didn’t need to be there and go through that, but I’m guessing many know about the conniving people who pushed that military conflict into being.
purple squish
purple squish
4 years ago
Thank you Senator Wicker for reminding me that even though we are in the middle of a totalitarian takeover attempt by the democrats, the  Republicans can be mind-numbingly stupid and evil too. Seriously, what America needs most right now is to start trading H-bomb explosions with Russia because of the Ukraine? 
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
4 years ago
“Yet, the US has 200 National Guard troops in the country.”  And zero troops on our own southern border where they are actually needed…
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
4 years ago
Ukraine has too much dirt on the Bidens, could be first Americans to extort money from the Ukraine
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Nothing to argue with there. I’m on exactly the same page.

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