“It’s amazing. No one’s ever heard of numbers like this,” said Trump who was bragging about a million people requesting tickets to see him Oklahoma.
Out of an alleged million fans, about 9,000 actually turned up.
Overflow Area
The arena was supposed to be filled to the brim so they created an overflow area.
Outdoor Remarks Cancelled
Why?
No one showed up outside.
Beautiful Wave of Empty Seats
https://twitter.com/DeanGullberry47/status/1274486778540384257
Overflow Crowd
https://twitter.com/ashleyrm/status/1274474228071510020
What Happened?
In two words, “Unused Tickets”
It seems Millennials and Generation Z went online and orders tickets as a spoof.
https://twitter.com/ChrisAlbertoLaw/status/1274498545354264577https://twitter.com/martylivs/status/1274487170330320896
Oklahoma Covid-19 Spike
To add insult to insult, Tulsa World reports Oklahoma Numbers Continue to Spike.
Oklahoma saw a 5.1% jump in the number of COVID-19 cases Thursday, with 450 new cases and two additional deaths.
Thursday’s numbers, which include the highest daily count since the pandemic began, leaves the state with 9,354 cases overall, with more than 1,100 of those coming since Sunday.
The Hill comments
Over just the past week, cases have increased by about 90 percent.
Testing in Oklahoma has also remained relatively flat, so the increase in cases is not due to an increase in testing, despite arguments being made by Vice President Pence and other officials.Tulsa County has the highest number of cases in the state. The director of the Tulsa Health Department urged the Trump campaign on multiple occasions to reschedule the rally.
Trump Admits He Directed Officials to Find Fewer Cases
Trump tells Oklahoma rally he directed officials to slow virus testing to find fewer cases
At his rally in Tulsa on Saturday, President Trump called coronavirus testing “a double-edged sword” and said he asked officials to conduct fewer coronavirus tests to keep case numbers down. After claiming the United States has tested 25 million people, Trump said: “When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please!’ ”
Meanwhile, Six members of Trump’s campaign advance team for his Tulsa rally tested positive for the novel coronavirus, according to a statement from the president’s campaign. “Quarantine procedures” were implemented immediately, the statement added.
One Mask Seen
Might I suggest purposely suppressing tests so you can hold a big rally is more than a bit questionable?
Mish
So, what has forgetful Joe done in the way of rallies?
All Biden has to do is sit in his basement and be quiet, as trump stupidly destroys himself .
I love coming here when I am depressed. I just see how depressing these articles are when they cut down a president so bad with such negativity and hatred that I realize I’m not as bad off as others. I feel so much better today. Thank you for the therapy session Mitch.
Awww poor snowflake! Did someone say something to hurt your fee fees?
Here’s a venue he can fill:
That’s pretty spacious, but…
Who cares how many people were there? I was comfortably watching at home and i thought he was very funny.
Why is anyone listening to the medical doctors that have been overwhelmingly wrong on this issue? Dr. Fraudci has been receiving millions of dollars from US taxpayers since 1984 for the AIDS vaccine, where is it? Dr. Fraudci approved hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus in 2005, why did he say it wouldn’t work now when it has been the most effective in combination with other therapies? Medical misdiagnoses kill 250,000 people per year in the USA. Why do you listen to them?
And why should we listen to gatorgirl?
Anything to deflect the stories away from Trump.
And exactly why have the medical doctors been wrong? Trump has been hopelessly long advocating disinfectants and drugs that go have subsequently been found to have no real benefits and harmful side effects. Trumpster is headed for the dumpster.
My two bits about all this brouhaha!
(1) Sure Trump was down, but then it’s late and he’s tired
(2) Fox news are traitors to Trump — Wallace had the temerity to question the attendance
(3) Real Trump lovers already know that the low attendance was caused by all the Antifafa demonstrators that blocked access to the site
(4) Trump’s team has already said that this was the best-attended rally and that the images were taken hours before Trump spoke…anyway, Biden is old
Democrats will call this the end of Trump. Sure it’s bad but it’s bad for Trump organizers — resignations and firing are certain to follow.
It’s also 153 days before election day. Senate/Justice department can do a lot of damage before then.
I have a suggestion Trump wants the post office to stop operating before the end of September that way people will not be able to mail in their ballots…
A real stable genius!
Awww… he looks so sad coming home from this:
A pretty juvenile article there Mish. People sabotaging an event where actual supporters wanted to go and people bragging about it.
This isn’t American, at least the America of the last 250 years or so.
Bottom line this won’t change one single vote its just fodder for the already converted to make something of nothing.
Next.
You’re backing the loser.
You hit the bullseye. I feel sorry for so called “generation z’. Not only are they stupid but they have no sense of reality. Wait until they have to get off the internet and enter the real world and try to find a job and support themselves. These generation z people will be living at home until they are sixty. The internet has ruined these people.
“Those people” just trainwrecked your infallible orange god, with minimal effort, for the LOLs. Trump is weak, and so are his followers.
can you imagine what would be said if this had been done to obama or biden. they’d probably start rioting and looting and filing legal claims.
this is the kind of behavior you get / encourage when the president is openly mocked behind his back on national television during a national event by the house speaker, one of the self proclaimed “adults in the room”.
He is a clown. To not mock him would be to ignore reality
Overflow area was empty. Didn’t need tickets. Bozo has run out of material and folk are bored.
I knew this would happen. Come on! less than 1% of those who had tickets (BTW they had to give personal information like email and phone numbers…that were verified)
Now its “sabotage” by the crazy Trump lovers. Trump said it best himself. “I could rape a woman in Time Square and people would still vote for me!” (or words to that effect.
Its not about Trump its about “F You to the man” and that Trump is a “God fearing” racist — they like that
This conversation bores me
No, it enrages you. That’s why you keep coming back… for the adrenaline hit. We make you madder than Fox News does, and now we are your dealer.
The Democrats have really screwed the pooch so far as their strategy… They have given full support to BLM and all the riots and looting alienating much of moderate America including moderate Democrats and all moderate Independents. They are appalled at the violence and lawlessness of the radical left. Now to offset that, as elections grow nearer, they will have to backtrack on their support, or risk losing their votes, which will alienate the blacks and make them look as two faced as they really are. What ever they do now they are screwed….
Let’s say the expected numbers for the Tulsa rally were inflated because of a grass-roots, teen-age thing.
Use your powerful imagination, my fellow spectators: What media noises do you hear when that “thing” is directed at Biden?
So much noise to ignore. So, so much.
Again, read Mish political postings and comments from June 2016. Then do your Nov 2020 election speculations.
So, the leadership of the Democrat party, including Biden, has been in Congress for decades. The most recent President was Black and had 8 years. One of its revered recent leaders was in the KKK. But Trump is blamed for racism. This is bullshit and nobody (except Democrats) is buying it.
Facts please not opinions and feelings.
Get off your high horse until you have actual proof. Else you’re just another voice screaming from the rooftops with zero to back it up just like those Democrats you don’t claim to be like.
What does your opinion define as “Actual proof” in this instance?
He didn’t cause racism, but he approves of it and uses hate as a weapon. Racism is also nice and simple, unlike commies and gays he doesn’t have to get non-white folk to wear triangles and stars so folk know who to hate
Shouldn’t it worry his team that his prime group appears to be worried about the virus enough to avoid his rallies. His lack of seriousness on the issue is damaging him.
“Come to my rally but don’t sue me if you get sick!”
WTF—stupidest messaging ever, and then say you’re slowing down primary control measures..\
Democrats appear to suffering the same sort of cognitive disconnection as they did in 2016. They continue to discount Trump, without understanding were his strength is. He gave an excellent speech, and energized his base as they realized that he will absolutely crush Biden in any kind of debate. He is a masterful campaigner, and will use the Democrats alliance with BLM and the rioters to show the American people that the Democrats support unlawfulness, riots, looting, graffiti, defending police, and will implement the same kind of policies on the Federal level we see creating havoc and chaos in the Democratic cities and states. Even the liberals are now fleeing their own liberal cities. The Democrats have undermined themselves by aligning themselves with the radical left and they will pay dearly for that mistake come November.
4 million people watched the rally online. Has Biden ever managed to draw more than 4000 viewers to any of his events.
I don’t even like Trump and will be voting green this year, but this is silly. Every post on this blog now is just generic hysterical anti-Trump propaganda that anyone can get from CNN or MSNBC, or from the low information blue wave resistance twitter crowd. The echo chamber is even worse than it was in 2016 and I fear the resulting hubris will be your downfall.
Wow a voice of reason and sanity to see what this is.
The world has turned into Twitter sound bytes to rile up their base.
If y’all though the silent majority spoke in 2016 you haven’t seen anything until 2020 comes around. Just watch.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Between posting charts and graphs that are usually not accurate and knocking Trump this guy is going downhill fast. I usually laugh after reading his posts.
4 million… Huh, poor souls wasting their time watching a man who like Obama continues to enslave them with trillions more in debt.
Here lately, Mish can’t do much of anything except embarrass himself. He needs to get a grip!
His advance team was so incompetent. It’s not hard to vet your sign ups. A random sample test that takes less than an hour would have told them they had a problem. Voter data is so easy to get. I could have spotted it in less time – Duh. Trumps re-election team has no data skills. What moron wouldn’t look into a million sign ups! It’s as if these people have never run a campaign.
“What moron wouldn’t look into a million sign up!” One who’s leader has such a huge, super fragile ego that a) he believes the number and starts to spew about it before it’s proven to be true or false and b) One who’s leader’s personality is such that you can’t tell him the truth.
Trump is not popular in oil country,coal too.even though the Fed is continuing to massively prop up oil in a desperate attempt to keep oil from dropping into the single digits,maybe go negative!
It should be clear to anyone with half a brain that if we allow the Democrats to gain power in this election, we will be facing this kind of fascism in ever aspect of our lives. They will destroy our country just as they have destroyed the liberal cities that stand burned and looted…..
The Donald will call China’s Xi soon.
The Donald: “Can you please, please, please, stop all that Tik Tok shit?”
Xi: “Not if you keep talking about the kung flu …….”
“Trade wars are easy to win”. So far it’s been zero on the Donald’s side of the ledger.
If this is what winning looks like, might as well start losing.
Right?!? And how can anyone be so dumb as to believe that the Chinese are paying for the tariffs?
I live in Canada and Trump accused us also of living off the US teat, but he only used Goods in his calculations, not Services. When you include both, it was almost a dead even trade agreement with Canada. But once Trump speaks (of things he doesn’t understand) he will stick to it until his dying breath because Trump simply has too fragile of an ego to ever admit that he’s wrong about any topic. He just can’t man up and say he was wrong, ever!
over 5 million online streaming views…
So? count me as one of these 5 million streaming views. It means nothing. I watched it for free entertainment. A free modern bozo the clown show.
So how many streaming views have Biden’s video’s been getting?
of course it means nothing because you’re an ideologue that would tell Jesus he’s full of crap if you spoke to him.
you’re compromised so your opinion is just that. try agian.
One of Saturday Night Live’s special episodes.
I was watching cspan once I heard about the empty seats. Watching him bluster and complain to that tiny audience was damn funny, I don’t care who you are.
I about asphyxiated laughing at the water glass stunt though, my sides still hurt a little.
Man, that number seems to be getting exponentially bigger every time it’s retold, exactly like fishing tales do. From what I’ve been told, it looks like 3 million people watched it since 11:00 last night until now, 7:15am. Now that’s dedication! /sarcasm
Ha Ha Ha! Mish, your TDS going into overdrive.
Of course you conveniently overlook – or maybe your news sources are so biased you are unaware of – the lack of crowd control by the pusillanimous PD (like nearly all PD’s it seems nationwide) such that the metal screeners needed for entry (because there are many radicals out there threatening violence etc.) got pushed away. So thousands were left outside. If you happened to see the photos from the morning – many hours before the event – there were more than enough to fill that hall.
So once again TDS’ers love to heap insult on the Trumpsters whilst ignoring the violence they espouse.
Frankly: Shame on you for such biased, inaccurate and toxic coverage.
Trump will have the last laugh at the ballot box.
I believe he will. No law abiding citizen will back an insane liberal party that wants to defund the police. Trump will do just fine in November. Generation z needs to get off the computer and go back to McDonald’s where they belong.
Of course, the one hole in your argument is the lack of understanding on your part that the metal detectors are needed because the die-hard right wingers do love them their guns. That’s not really a leftie thing, at all.
But if you look at ALL the pictures, you are actually and factually wrong. Further, most of the people waiting outside were the ones that went inside when the doors opened, I’m sure. That’s how events work, even up here in Canada when it’s -30c outside, we get to line up until they open the doors just a little while ahead of the event. (We can take it though, we’re hardy!)
There is also one contradiction in your comment too. All Trumpers have been telling us that the heavy crowd control was needed on these left-wing protests… so why does a right-wing crowd, waiting to see their president, need crowd control at all? Just curious.
I guess you didn’t see some of the photos and videos of BLM groups harassing and threatening Trump supporters both before and after.
And you didn’t see pictures of the blocked gates and the hundreds or thousands of people unable to get in.
And you haven’t read, no doubt, that the online and cable viewing audience was well over 10 million.
And you didn’t see the photos of literally masses of people already in place in the morning.
Since most MSM refuses to show the aggressive tactics of left wing organised mobs, you can insist if you like that only Trump supporters were there, but doesn’t make it so.
If I had to guess, it looks like:
Yes, they got TikTok punked, but there were still way more than 19,000 there.
But the BLM-ers were far too rude and aggressive for older people and those with children. They left.
The police wilted – as all do it seems except Federal agents in DC district – and so were unable to maintain proper crowd control including steady entry to the hall.
In terms of the spin wars, the Trump campaign took a hit. But they are used to it. Just about anything they do is always spun in the most negative light possible. The only way his political opponents can win is by insulting and vilifying him non-stop to depress support numbers by shaming people into denying support. It’s been very effective for several years now; indeed most people who hate Trump really believe most of the false talking points they’ve been spoonfed. Information war indeed!
However, several big things were effected:
in large numbers and for the first time since March, Trump supporters and not racist thugs and hypocritical SJW outrage junkies gathered in large numbers, most without masks. The covid panic is now beginning to be over.
Trump is beginning to pivot his campaign and will do so more. Basically he’s not running against Biden – who truly isn’t there – but against organised anti-republican collectivist/socialist/marxist anarchists etc. He articulated it thusly: Biden is a captured puppet of the extreme left wing which dominates the Democrat Party and threatens to undermine our entire representative Republic. (paraphrasing!).
The more the organised left resorts to violence and vandalising, the more they will make Trump’s case. The Dems have painted themselves into an extremist, anti peace, anti small business, anti non-racist (they hate whites) position. The only two ways they can win are:
Personally, I thought the rally – apart from the over-hyped concern about turnout numbers – was same-old same-old. No real platform. No real answer to what’s happening. But it’s early days and he has demonstrated extraordinary abilities to learn and change quickly, and also great resilience and stamina. So they have to get him to resign before November somehow – maybe behind-the-scenes threats to his family – or cheat.
Your post is perfect. You exposed this Shedlock guy for what he really is. A fraud. I hope Coast to Coast Am bans him for life.
It’s funny listening to people who support Trump call others a fraud.
Trump promises to protect the Second Amendment. Calls for red flag gun laws, gets his Obama pen out and bans a gun accessory by executive fiat, and works with Diane Feinstein on FIX NICs.
Trump tweets out against Obama era QE warning it will lead to inflation only to when he gets in office beg the Federal Reserve to keep printing money to prop up the economy.
Promises to get the national debt paid off only to acquire nearly 2/3 of Obama’s total debt creation in 3.5 years.
Trump promises to fight socialism only to deliver bailouts and stimulus that make Obama look like a fiscal conservative while taking a page out of Bernie Sanders playbook and handing out free redistribution of wealth checks to selected Americans. Trump is now calling for government funded vacations for all Americans up to $4000…
You know if you want to talk about frauds…
The heinous media refused to show full Trump rallies before, but now show the empty seats. Such dishonesty. Not sure why Mish is consumed with TDS.
When a troll gets trolled.
He’s going to overcompensate though. Watch out for it.
Good call on that! Batten down the hatches, there’s a tweet-storm coming!
Sooo much winning. I can’t take it.
When is Bidens next rally? He can have it in a phone booth because they don’t exist.
6200! Really? That low.
OK. why?
4 The overflow area caused parking to be located too far from the venue, and Potential Attendees’ mobility scooter batteries ran out.
Potential attendees are starting to realize the emperor has no clothes and little in the way of grey matter either. His schtick worked 4 years ago because a lot of folks did not like Hilary and people wanted a change in Washington. Little did they realize they were getting a snake oil salesman. But now all has been revealed and it is not pretty.
I hope you’re right, and they’re waking up. I don’t like thinking that that many people are that dumb.
Leo Terrell woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party is racist.
I tried to attend and I’m from out of state. Never received tickets. I think this event was poorly planned. I think they were expecting more local residents. Also, the authorities have put the fear-of-God into people where they are afraid to associate in close quarters except Antifa, BLM rioters and their politicians that egg them on.
Where ‘O where is the the great Joe Biden? Hiding in his basement or has he forgotten that he’s running for President?
Racism? Please provide a current example. Let me give you a Biden current example: “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black”; Brown children were jumping on my lap and then I learned about cockroaches”, hmm, these ARE RACIST.
To keep this fair and balanced here’s Fox saying trump is “sparring” with the ebil demoncrabs over the crowd size, while showing some carefully cropped footage of the idiot gallery:
Some of those people will be dead of covid by the end of July. And for what? To cheer a president that think’s he’s being manly by quaffing a tumbler of water and casting it down wantonly? Does that make their wimmin folk’s cellulite quiver?
His attempts at being tough make me think he once browsed this for 10 minutes in a waiting room somewhere and forgot most of what he saw:
The fact is, trump is a Dude, and thinks the world is his Dude Ranch, and that he can have his cowboy gang beat up anybody that he doesn’t like.
It’s weird… I started out horrified at him becoming president, and now it just keeps getting progressively more hilarious. Usually works the other way, things start out funny and progress to “oh s**t”.
The man is a genius entertainer, and nobody can take that from him.
“To cheer a president that think’s he’s being manly by quaffing a tumbler of water and casting it down wantonly?”
To cheer the exposing of a media fraud that Trump was not well, as you know.
The mainstream media is propaganda.
Are you, like, an actual person? Your posts are so inane that it’s difficult to tell.
i can say the same about you. you live in your own upside down. please do come back when trump wins in 2020 and send a picture of your incredulous face it’ll be priceless.
It’s a sad state of affairs when these are the choices we have
Narcissistic reality tv personality / Failed business man
Blatantly corrupt, washed up, senile career politician who has trouble completing a sentence.
Either way we lose.
#2(a) – Say hello to a younger woman: President Harris.
You know how she got into politics right?
And how many years of Biden stumbling and mumbling will it take before he’s declared unfit for office? Let’s remember this will be the guy with the nuclear codes. For all Trump’s faults he hasn’t rushed us off into war like every other president.
It is always a binary choice which is never perfect but this time the choice has been made obvious by how terrible one has been as President.
“the choice has been made obvious by how terrible one has been as President.”
Or Vice President!
To be fair trump was f@cked over for almost the entire term. Not that he’s some or would have been a great president but to be fair this guy was F@cked over big time.
Not a trump fan but anyone who thinks Kamala Harris or whoever the democrats choose for president will be a decent leader is delusional.
“When I first came into office, the head of the Senate Republicans said, ‘my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president.’ Now, after the election, either he will have succeeded in that goal or he will have failed at that goal.” Mitch McConnell. That kind of whinging goes in both directions. Sadly, McConnell was more successful than the Democrats have been.
So I follow your “its a 2 way street” logic ( not the same as an attempted coup using the entirety of the intelligence community ) but what’s the McConnell reference mean?
Agree. I actually think Biden needs to go out of the box when it comes to VP. But because of the riots and stupid shit cops are doing he can’t. There are actually very few out of the box minority women to choose from with enough experience. If I were Biden, I would pick someone like Ursula Burns who is a black female that ran a Fortune 500 company. We need someone that can bridge the divide and a politician isn’t going to do that.
“Either way we lose.”
We lost in 1913. That we did so, became blatantly obvious to all and anyone but the most hopelessly illiterate by 1971. Now we’re just stuck waiting for the Jihadis to come take the trash out.
Agreed, except the being saved by religious fanatics that rape women and cut off peoples heads, for that I disagree Stuki, but you can dream. Are you a muslim extremist or just a fan?
Just being realistic. The Jihadis may not be all that in absolute terms. But at least they have some basic competencies left. Above-replacement-rate procreation being a fairly fundamental one. Adherence to what is at least a potentially valid rule of law, as opposed to millions of pages on utterly useless arbitrariness, being another. And they have the sense to treat their governments with all the respect governments are due; head-off-cutting and all.
“We” have none of that by now. We used to do it better, at least per my estimation, than any Jihadi. But that was 150 years ago. Nothing ending the Fed with Gold at $20/oz, ending all activity taxes, getting rid of arbitrary ambulance chaser shakedowns, and hard-defaulting on all Federal, state and local debt as of 1pm today couldn’t fix quite nicely. But absent Americans growing up sufficiently to figure out even such trivial basics, as opposed to instead clinging to their ever stringer indoctrination and childish worship of arbitrary Dear Leaders ever more vehemently, things don’t look too promising. So, Jihadis it will be. And while they may, again, hardly be all that, at least they are an improvement on what we currently have. Devoid of good options, least of evils is all that’s left.
You make some great points Stuki.
I want to be a filed businessman will billions in the bank.
Don’t believe the polls: Trump’s populist presidency may carry him to victory in 2020
BY JOSHUA H. SANDMAN, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR1,615
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill
Lots of us #formertrumpers are out there regretting voting for him in 2016…
Well he did get an ovation for managing to drink from a glass one handed… thereby owning the libs. Therefore, he wins.
Nothing like calling a reality TV show a presidency…
The Republican Party is self destructing. Let’s see how long it takes for the party elite to realize they have no chance of winning in November with Trump as their leader. They aren’t the smartest tools in the shed so it could take a while for the penny to drop. The problem is that it is probably too late to change leadership unless they force Trump to quietly stand down – perhaps for medical reasons? I am sure they have the goods to strong arm him. The question is do they have the smarts and the intestinal fortitude to do so.
Your right the Republican Party is on a train to self destruction, unfortunately the Democrat Party is on a rocket ship to self destruction. Between Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta they’re all trying to see who can destroy themselves and history first. Anyone that thinks that the Republicans have a corner on the self destruction market needs to remove the plank from their eye first. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that the “TikTok Kids” that AOC and everyone is applauding here are either to young or won’t show up to vote in November. Most of these kids haven’t made it out of Mom & Dad’s basement yet let alone have the gumption to “Get out the Vote”
You can but hope although polls would seem to indicate Trump is toast. His current strategy will not provide the comeback he needs. And what worked for him four years ago will not work now. Everyone knows that is not much more than bluster and lies.
I agree. I think the standard rally format that worked last time will prove a bit of a dud this time. He is not rising to the occasion which is a nation on the verge of anarchy and civil war. If they allow the Dems to win using these crude bully tactics which tacitly endorse violence and mob rule, the country will degrade rapidly, not to mention the silent majority in the middle will simply not accept such authority, which usually they swallow hard but find a way to do. No good will come of any of this.
He has to appeal to the reasonable common sense middle and offer a path through all this to bedrock sanity and decency. If he keeps stoking the fires of partisan differences, whether he wins or loses, the country will continue on its divisive path. He opponents will not respect his victory, just like they denied the last one, but now they will be emboldened to inflame the country more.
It’s looking to me like he doesn’t have what it takes to rise above all this. To be fair, nobody else in the political elites comes anywhere close to having that ability either. The Resistance is willing to tear the country down to get their way. They might just succeed.
At which point, Trump is going to look mighty good. He actually wants the country, and all her citizens, to prosper and thrive. TDS’ers overlook that simple point far too often.
Oh well. We’ll see. But looks like a hot, nasty summer, probably with many false flag murders to inflame both sides further. For his sake, I hope he does drop out. The country needs to sort itself out without the distorted diversion of TDS over-personalisation of dynamics which have been festering in the body politic for a very long time. Does Middle America have enough gumption to prevent a communitarian-socialist-totalitarian new world order takeover? Or are they going to surrender to the mob and then we’ll have 1920 Russia all over again….
It seems that those who despise Trump are of the belief that if they just get rid of him using riots, mayhem, violence and deceit to do so, that the country will go back to some sort of good-old-Joe-Biden normal, and everything will be ok, the toothpaste of mob rule will all go back in the tube and Middle America will breath a sigh of relief along with all the racist victim-obsessed radicals now ruling the roost.
Dream on!
“He actually wants the country, and all her citizens, to prosper and thrive.” are u being sarcastic, right?
No I’m not. At all. I see no evidence whatsoever that he wants anything other than success for American citizens. You may disagree with how he goes about it, but clearly he wants things to work out well.
Whether or not some monkey “wants” his shoes tied is pretty irrelevant; when he doesn’t posses even the remotest understanding of how to go about achieving something as complimecated as tying shoelaces.
Well, to begin with, he could stop being such a prolific liar so we could maybe see a tiny glimpse of this, except he just can’t help himself. Lying is breathing to him. Secondly, the could stop lining his own and his kids pockets off the American people so we could believe his morality is in the right place and that he isn’t just a bully, thug and crime boss. Thirdly, he could stop with all the name calling and shaming just as little Jimmy or Beth learn to stop doing that starting in kindergarten. It makes him look like an immature, nasty fool. Lastly, he could make his government a whole lot more transparent (if he has nothing to hide, he would have) so people could at least begin to believe what you said.
He’s incapable of any of this.
Oh yeah, two more things: he could stop surrounding himself with so many crooked, lying friends, and he could build one – just one – coherent foreign affairs policy and stick with it so he stops blindsiding all the experts that advise him, all because he thinks that he’s more knowledgeable about everything than even people who’ve spent their lifetime micro-focused on on field.
At his he’ll always fall back on his basic behaviour, so there’s zero chance that even one of these things will ever happen, let alone all of them, which is what it would take for the people to believe that he has their best interest at heart. He doesn’t, plain and simple. He has Donald Trump’s best interests in mind way before anyone else’s.
“He actually wants the country, and all her citizens, to prosper and thrive. TDS’ers overlook that simple point far too often.”
No – he wants whatever is good for him alone. This is quite obvious and it’s the ‘type 2’ TDS that doesn’t recognize it.
Now, if what Trump wants is good for the country = a nice happenstance. And there are instances of this (no matter what the ‘type 1’ TDS’ers say). However, no one should be fooled into thinking that there was thought of the rest of the country that went into decisions that happened to help.
Lying? LOL. The democrats are the pary of the KKK, segregation, Jim Crow laws, anti Civil Rights, etc. You drank the democrat kool aid that said that the Democrats now support civil rights? LOL. MLK was a republican, Abraham Lincoln was a republican. Malcolm X told black people a couple of days before he was executed that if black people vote for a Democrat, they are voting against themselves. Why is it that democrat cities have the highest crime rates and black on black crimes? Why wasn’t there a protest when 26 black people were killed in Chicago in 1 day a couple of days ago? Because democrats are liars and they only talk about these issues right before the election. Then they do nothing for the next 4 years. Why didn’t Obama fix the “racial inequality in policing” when he was in office 8 years? Why did he call looters in Ferguson “thugs” an no one said anything? Because y’all are hypocrites!
Oklahoma saw a 5.1% jump in the number of COVID-19 cases Thursday.
So What!!
What was the average of these victims 25. What counts is hospitalizations which are down. Young people do not go to the hospital.
So what? Although you are correct that few young people wind up in the hospital, they interact with people who do. More than half of Americans live in a household containing at least one member at heightened risk.
You say all this, right up until it’s your grandmother or some such that dies in the hospital, completely alone (how sad is that) because some of those young people that take care of older people didn’t care or take precautions, as per your (il)logic. Where there are more cases, there are more deaths, period. How hard is that to figure out?
Hospitalizations are down!! I am 81 years old. If we ever have a family gettogether the young people ware masks and social distance. This of course takes a little bit of intelligence which I guess is in short supply out there!
Anecdotal, but I’ve noticed a yuuge drop in Trump support from family, friends and acquaintances. No actual anti-Trump comments, but a drop in comments in his favor. I think some folks who fear the coronavirus don’t appreciate the decision to reopen the economy so quickly, and I think the horrific videos of Floyd’s death, and the lack of presidential leadership in overcoming racism has some not wanting to be associated with “those people (unapologetic racists)”.
Still lots of support from the true believers, but this could be apocalyptic for Republicans in November. Trump needs something to fall his way.
I’ve noticed something talking to people too, sort of a disheartened tone that reminds me of the end of the GWB years. They’re still red teamers but more subdued, not nearly as enthusiastic as they were just six months ago.
Around here and elsewhere online I hardly see pro-Trump comments, just anti-blue ones. It’s tough to sustain a movement on a negative, rather than actually being FOR something. By now they seem to know that the Fed is running the country and that 4D chess doesn’t exist. Without anything economic to rally around they’re reduced to griping about random stuff they don’t like, which is kind of sad.
Here are the positives: 1) First Step Act that helps non-violent offenders (minorities disproportionately affected) be released from prison by the law created by Biden and signed by Clinton; 2) Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption – this is why Hillary and Obama are freaking out; 3) Why didn’t Obama fix “racial inequality” in his 8 years of office?; 4) Trump was the only person to speak to the attorney of Epstein’s accuser after he threw Epstein out of Mar A Lago; 5) Trump assisted Jesse Jackson’s presidential aspirations; 6) Trump assisted my black business owners with loans in the nineties when the banks wouldn’t lend to them; 7) why don’t democrats remember how democrats loved Trump before he campaigned for president????? The list can go on and on
What does any of that have to do with anything? The country is an economic basket case due to the Fed, and neither the blue nor the red team can possibly fix it, even if they wanted to.
Responding to a bunch of old threads pointing out trivialities makes you look oddly desperate.
Well, I was not going to vote this year as I was irritated by Trump’s foreign policy of strangling Venezuala and Syria. I don’t blame the Covid reaction to Trump. Our country is better at prepping for war than infrastructure, Covid, etc. Doesn’t make a difference who is in office. This rioting, destruction of statues and other barbarism changed my mind. You have to be a blind idiot to vote for the Democrat’s instead of Trump. The Republicans in Congresss are for the most part worthless worms except the worm does have some value for fishing so they have more worth than Democrats and Republicans. American’s are living in a daze. You have been brainwashed by social media and news that somehow Trump being ejected will bring things to normal. There never is a normal. People disagree on things, bad things happen sometimes and the worst part is that the culprits that commit crimes or make bad choices in life are not confronted in American society, news media or politicians. Today, I read that blacks in Minneapolis cannot buy food. Does ANYONE ask why they burned their city down which lead to this? Antifa has taken over a portion of an American city and people are getting killed, raped and extorted, but no one is talking about it except Trump! I gonna tell you something and it will go in one ear and out the other. Yugoslavia had a civil war in the 1980’s and 90’s. The country split up into its respective states. I know people that fought there during this time. One guy in particular said you don’t realize how people can become like animals. I asked him why he didn’t leave? He laughed and said that the powers for each state would not let you leave-you had to go fight or sit in a refugee camp. He told me that the wealthy were long gone when things started going awry. You will not be in New Zealand with the wealthy or where ever they have their bug out homes. You will be here suffering with your family. If you want this, then vote for Biden. I want a country where there is law and order, jobs for people to work and there should be no shame in what job you do, and an environment where people can discuss topics without destroying our history and behaving like the Khmer Rouge.
Very good comment.
The country is dividing more than usual this election cycle, and strangely that might be a good thing at this juncture. In terms of the specific criteria you mentioned (fear of virus etc.), much of the divide can be described thusly:
those who tend to believe the main narratives the media push and discuss
vs
those who tend not to put much credence in them.
The interesting thing is that the former are far more suggestible than the latter and thus can change their minds more easily. As people gradually get used to coming out of their caves and fears of the virus recede, so will their outlook change. If the left continues to indulge in an orgy of hatred, resentment, destruction and civil unrest, more of them will develop sufficient gumption to admit, first to themselves and then to others, that they don’t like that sort of thing.
So there are several months to go for things to shake out. Ultimately, the country has a choice to make and an opportunity to express it. Some on this Board think Trump wants to cancel the election. I think the case can equally be made that the Dems want the same unless they can be sure of fixing the vote somehow. Clearly they are into playing dirty now – witness Antifa & BLM both of whom get funding from and funnel funds into the DNC and both of whom publicy espouse lawlessness and violence.
If the country wants to kowtow to such an approach, they will vote for it.
If they don’t, they will vote against. But once fear of the virus recedes, so will respect for the media along with instantly going along with all the other crap which will be spewed forth from them between now and November. Crap like how people didn’t show up for the rally last night – plainly not true.
He will strong arm the FDA to do an emergency authorization for a vaccine, probably within 30 days of the election, whether the vaccine works or not. That just might get him over the top. Of course, weeks later we will find out if the vaccine really works….
Anecdotal, I’ve seen a YUGE rise in Trump supporters. They just don’t want to deal with problems by going to a rally and having idiots stop them from leaving. Trump’s base is stronger that EVER!