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A Third of Yesterday’s Massive Rally Vanishes, Who Knew What When?

Check out an interesting chart of options trading ahead of the rally.

Trumped Waved the White Flag

Amid the turmoil, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent convinced Trump to do a 90-day pause.

The stock and bond markets instantly reversed and the Dow shot up nearly 3,000 points, about 7.8 percent. The Nasdaq rose 1,857 points up 12.2 percent, and the S&P 500 rose 474 points up 9.5 percent.

Who did Trump or Treasury Secretary Bessent tell?

Shorts Covered What Now?

The market, at least for now is thinking a bit more clearly so far today, but nothing today would surprise me.

This is an IF but not an unlikely one, IF yesterday’s rally cleared out most of the shorts, there is nothing but a huge air pocket below.

Stock Selloff Accelerates as China Trade War Sinks In

After a brief hiatus from reality, Stock Selloff Accelerates as China Trade War Sinks In

U.S. stocks opened lower Thursday and declined sharply heading into midday, as investors sort through a global economic outlook that has improved drastically over 24 hours but remains uncertain.

Bank stocks and tech shares were hit hard, retracing some of Wednesday’s epic gains. Wall Street’s fear gauge, the CBOE Volatility Index, was rising though far below levels of earlier this week. Nasdaq, which posted its biggest gain since 2008 on Wednesday, gave half of it back Thursday, declining 5%.

Trump’s reciprocal tariffs on nearly 100 nations took effect Wednesday. Later, as he paused the levies on other nations, Trump said he had raised China’s import tax to 125%.

In return, China said Thursday it would reduce imports of American movies, another bid to strike at U.S. services exports in an escalating trade war between the two countries.

Goldman Sachs cut its growth outlook for China, citing the impact of tariffs. The bank now projects China’s economy will expand 4% this year and 3.5% in 2026.

Trump Tariffs on China Actually 145%, Says White House

The tariffs imposed on China by President Trump in his second term add up to 145%, the White House said on Thursday—not 125%, as it previously indicated.

The 125% tariff that President Trump announced on Wednesday afternoon referred only to reciprocal tariff levels, a White House official said, and did not take into account the 20% tariffs Trump had previously levied on China over its role in the fentanyl trade.

When the fentanyl-based tariffs are added, the second-term tariffs are 145%, which are also stacked on top of product-specific tariffs on China that Trump imposed in his first term and then-President Joe Biden expanded.

As I have commented before, these are now meaningless numbers. Above 100 percent most trade will stop. Another 5,000 percent won’t do anything.

However, the “Made in Vietnam” trade is back on. Look for goods from China to filter though as coming from Vietnam.

This tariff avoidance scheme was in play in Trump’s first administration as well.

Trade Deficit with China is Understated

For an explanation of tariff avoidance via Vietnam please see my January 18, 2025 post The US Trade Deficit with China is Understated by as Much as 30 Percent

Normal trade math does not add up. US imports and China exports are not in sync.

According to Brad Setser, Chinese exports started exceeding US imports only in those categories with tariffs, and only after the tariffs were imposed.

I commented “This appears to be an amusing case of China cleverly avoiding US tariffs but not clever enough to hide it better.

This appears to be an amusing case of China cleverly avoiding US tariffs but not clever enough to hide it better.

I was wrong about one thing. I did not think Trump would really be stupid enough to break USMCA.

Excluding Oil, the US Has a Trade Surplus with Canada Every Year Since 2008

For more on Canada, please see see Excluding Oil, the US Has a Trade Surplus with Canada Every Year Since 2008

Let’s do a fact check on Trump’s Canada claims.

Finally, Please read over and over Cheese Was a “Key Achievement” of Trump’s USMCA Trade Agreement

The above post contains over a dozen instances in which Trump bragged what a great deal.

It was such a great deal that Trump thanked Mexico and Canada. Notably USMCA is “Good for everybody – Farmers, Manufacturers, Energy, Unions – tremendous support. Importantly, we will finally end our Country’s worst Trade Deal, NAFTA!”

We had a great deal with China. Then Trump pissed in their face.

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val
val
1 year ago

A rally off bear market routs, stocks typically retrace half their gains. The aspect in this event was huge gaps in price (both rallies and routs), which indicate large option trades by corporate brokers. Options before the rally could be from insider knowledge, or the indexes having crossed below long-term moving average trend lines, while internal technical market statistics were highly oversold. This activity could be a reflection of the overall record high S&P margin debt.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

if it vanished, did it really exist? is all of wall street merely a fantasy of values? a castle of clouds built upon a foundation of sand that can vanish in a gentle rain storm forever?

Jahfre
Jahfre
1 year ago

“Reality does not need another reality to bolster it.”
~ Jorge Luis Borges

“Reality works in overt mystery.”
~Mendocino Fernandez

Every day, amazingly, people continue to have no idea what is going on. Trump’s plan is not nefarious or conspiratorial except to those who are prone to only see those options.

I hope some will remember tomorrow…and the next day…and the day after that…the plan is the same, overt, and working:

The Plan: Train other countries and politicians to believe there is always a carrot along with the stick. That’s it. Anyone who has been alert enough to spot this pattern…and TONS of people have been, knew the market would crash with the stick and recover with the carrot. World leaders are prideful, they would not capitulate pre-emptively because it is bad form but there could be no doubt they would take the carrot as soon as it was shown to be the correct step forward.

Frosty
Frosty
1 year ago
Reply to  Jahfre

The world sees the reality, and quite obviously.

Trumps actions are the largest tax increase in history and the largest regulatory encroachment on the day to day operation of free enterprise.

Exactly the opposite of what he campaigned on. The pretense of your quotes shows that your arguments are weak as you play the sycophant card instead of having your own arguments and credibility.

Sure trump has screwed and raped a great number of women and he has screwed and raped many people that trusted him in business. His bankruptcies are legendary. All of it was to benefit himself and his little wounded ego. He is doing nothing for the U.S. or its allies. Our farmers are losing market share again and other nations will be the direct beneficiaries. The American people will be paying the subsidies, or many of our farms will fail.

Sad times as the dollar slides and bond yields rise.

Next, corporate revenues and profits will fall and tax collections drop just as he piles on the debt.

I am not fooled and neither are the markets or the majority of our readers.

Peace
Peace
1 year ago

Trump’s MAGA will almost certainly bring the world economy to recession if not depression.

Cocoa
Cocoa
1 year ago

Honestly, I was looking at QQQ and SPY as a day trade because RSI was 21!!!! Basically right around the same time as the whole market capitulated (at least in the short term.) So it’s not unlikely that bigger players were programmatically buying calls .The force index was indicating a slowdown in selling. Any consumer trader would be looking at that as a buy. Big moves up happen in Bear crashes. See 2008. You can get a quick 10% just doing that. Also, if you are typing a TWEET or figuring out a message news is going to leak fast. I bet X knew he was typing that and before send button goes the backend knows and the HFT bots are already on the job

CJW
CJW
1 year ago

Trump may not know tariffs but he is intimately knowledgeable about debt/bonds. His companies went bankrupt on more than one occasion. I am sure he experienced a bit of Deja vu when he saw the bond market crashing. Creditors calling loans or demanding higher rates for increased risk. He probably used up his supply of Depends.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Did Trump just wink at the gold buffalos?

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery2

Wow that’s cray cray

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 year ago

The family has dual Danish and American citizenship. Shull is unusual, perhaps unique: an uncompromising supporter of Donald Trump and a self-described American patriot who is also a committed Greenlander, proclaiming his intention to live there for the rest of his life. At different times in our conversation he used ‘we’ to mean ‘we Americans’ and ‘we Greenlanders’. He’s strongly against America absorbing the island.https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v47/n07/james-meek/everything-is-possible?ref=thebrowser.com

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago

Nice article. Read all of it.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

Are we filling up the SPR at these prices? We sure as hell should be

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

Trump is far too busy grinding the axe of vindictive revenge to think about things like strategy and wisdom

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

We don’t need it because we pump all the oil we need now. The SPR is redundant.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

Nope. We pump around 13.5 mbpd but we export roughly 4 mbpd of shale oil because we can’t use it all in our refineries.

So we import around 6.5 mbpd of heavy oil in order to meet our refining needs.

Even if we could use every drop of shale oil in our refineries we would still need to import some oil.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

Here is some info about the SPR.

During Trump’s first term, the SPR declined from 695 mb to 638 mb. This had nothing to do with Trump. The decline was due to 3 acts of Congress from 2015 to 2018 which mandated SPR sales over the next decade in-order to raise funds to help with budget spending. Congress made this decision as a result of the huge increase in shale oil that the US began producing; thinking that this would reduce the need for the SPR. They planned to slowly reduce the SPR to 347 mb of oil eventually, or half the 695 mb.

When Biden took office in January 2021, the SPR contained 638 mb of oil. The mandated congressional sales continued and the SPR declined to 591 mb.
When Russia invaded Ukraine, Biden then announced an additional 180 mb of sales, in addition to the mandated sales. As a result, the SPR declined to 347 mb by mid 2023, which was Congresses long term target.

At this point, the Biden administration said they would cancel future mandatory sales, and begin refilling the SPR. Part of the reason for this was because they sold the SPR oil at around $95/bbl, and the re-purchases are at around $75/bbl.

To refill the SPR requires an order from the President, money from Congress, and the DOE to contract out the purchases.
Congress gave Biden “some” money and to date, we have refilled the SPR by around 50 mb to around 395 mb at present. But that money has all been spent.

Energy secretary Chris Wright is asking Congress for another $20 billion in-order to add another 300 mb of oil to the SPR over the next decade.

We will have to see if Trump will sign the order and Congress will provide the money.

Hope that helps.

Flingel Bunt
Flingel Bunt
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

Trump is waiting for $40

Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago

Once again Happy Liquidation Day. The Gamblers are getting called on their bets and have to show their cards.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 year ago

moving on: How the Pentagon is adapting to China’s technological riseMIT technology review: https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/04/07/1114242/kathleen-hicks-on-china/

Eric Vahlbusch
Eric Vahlbusch
1 year ago

And Trump wins another SCOTUS round. This one against the American Federation of Colleges and a bunch of other plaintiffs. On elimination of DEI. That’s now 6 wins in 7 days.

You are not keeping your readers up to date.

You could be correct on tariffs. Although I think not. But I don’t know enough about them to comment. So I don’t.

But I do know how the legal system works. And I’ve spent 1/3 of my life inside the system. So I’ll be sure your readers are informed.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Vahlbusch

We sure were kept up to date on court cases he lost though.

HubrisEveryWhereOnline
HubrisEveryWhereOnline
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Vahlbusch

Yes, some of us really appreciate your ‘good calls’ on the legal matters.

I told everyone I knew about how an Eric online assured me on MishTalk that Gaetz was guaranteed to be the next US Attorney General because of how Trump could use untested, but tenable legal theories to make it happen.

Now they don’t listen to me any more. Oh well, live and learn to trust (or not) random self-assured Erics on the interwebs

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

LOL. I love you Hubris

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Vahlbusch

Shouldn’t give them a cent, regardless of DIE issues.

Last edited 1 year ago by Avery2
Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery2

DIE works better than DEI …

limey
limey
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Vahlbusch

Please don’t feel the need , in fact I would be happy if you don’t bother.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago

1 PM EST: When one third becomes two thirds

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago

A very good thing happening now is the weakening of the Dollar. It was trading at almost parity with the Euro making it historically much too strong. The last time we saw this amount of strength was back in 1999. Ten years ago it was trading at 1.40 Dollars to the Euro and then in 2014 it started its strengthening trend. Needless to say a Dollar this strong is bad for companies trying to export but the worst part is that has created a self-reinforcing upward spiral in the capital account that is the flip side of the trade deficit. We import more and more paying for it in Dollars which are cycled back into treasuries, stocks and direct investment into real estate. This is causing the Dollar and real estate to continue their upward trends when from the point of view of fundamentals the Dollar, stocks and real estate are all horribly overvalued yet the trend perdures. If this continues like this then we will be dead.

For once we have a team that recognizes the problem and is using all the levers to break this trend. It should have been done before but as we know there were powerful incentives for certain groups to see this continue because they were making easy money. This tariff question is only a part of the process. While many people see only the tariffs they are ignoring the fact that the negotiations include much more than just tariffs. It would be nice to have a discussion on the capital account side for a change.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

Indeed

LM2020
LM2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

I don’t see any strategy or plan here, I see the capricious actions of a demented wannabe dictator. Any gains in exports to be made off the weakening dollar will be more than offset by the reciprocal tariffs the EU will impose on the US and on the increasing costs to US consumers on our imports. A depression is on the way.

Last edited 1 year ago by LM2020
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  LM2020

If you have already made up your mind then nothing I say will change it.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

What he doesn’t see, you can show him the light, or you can fold like Trump on tariffs. It’s a choice.

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago

I have neither the time nor the inclination to spoon-feed to him what he should have seen already if he had studied the subject a bit.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago

Where did he fold? Do you mean like the fake / novel so called felony conviction? Lulz.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  LM2020

Blah blah blah blah. Repeated endlessly thru the thread.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago

60 pts 1 min ES.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick

Well Team Trump did smash a market buy on deep OTM weekly calls making them innumerable millions.

Commenter
Commenter
1 year ago

Please share Team Trump’s trading records with us. Or are you just just guessing?

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago

Did Trump just say he was only kidding?

Augustine
Augustine
1 year ago

Most of the US exports to China are agricultural products, whereas the latter exports mostly industrial products to the former. That is, China can tariff US imports and source alternatives from other countries, like Brazil and Russia, whereas the US cannot find alternatives so easily or at all. China has the cards, not the US in trade, since, as an industrial economy, its exports aggregate more value than the US’.

Last edited 1 year ago by Augustine
Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Augustine

Hen Hao.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick

Yeah there were a number of CCP posts yesterday as well.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

I think this place is infested with them.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Augustine

Trump can go nuclear: 150% surcharge on Chinese take-out food.

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
1 year ago

It is not unusual for the market to give gains back after a huge day. As a matter of fact, the day after QQQs were up over six percent they gave some back 40/40 times. On average, the huge gain was completely erased the next day.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

Above the 382 retrace to yesterday’s lows, would call it a stick save and a beaut.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago

With vol this high and moves of such magnitude, its always hard to remember how long it takes for markets to balance out and digest. Oscillation, not straight lines.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago

May smell like teen spirit to some, but would say NYFed. It always helps to take losses when there’s a nice conspiracy theory to fall back on.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick

Fed is political. Their actions last year were criminal.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

Preaching to the choir.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago

Drama and trauma. Like the financial crisis. Geico pig hanging out the window with a streamer, wheeeeee!

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Trump was in the steeple of the Old North Church, signaling “one if by land, two if by sea.” Nicholas Cage used special spectacles to spot him.

njbr
njbr
1 year ago

The “paused” tariffs will cost an average household $4500/year

We are the highest big nation in terms of tariffs

Business investment planning is screwed WRT the US

We have alienated our allies

The US is no longer a reliable partner in trade and policy

60% chance of recession (too low)

So much winning

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  njbr

Fun with made up numbers.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  njbr

Shhh. What is that? I hear a baby crying!

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago

Not me. Close to 618 retrace. Machines running the show, pretty parabola on 15 min VIX candles breaking into 55.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago

Americans voted for a president who would engage in insider trading. Everyone HAD to know this would happen. The guy never showed any tax returns. He has always given off these vibes. Anyone who voted for him who is hurt financially by this mess deserves it, plain and simple. Vote for a felon to become president, expect to be violated and for him to commit more crimes.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

Bring Back Sleepy Joe b/c muh portfolio.

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
1 year ago

Trump told the whole world to buy shortly after the market opened yesterday. Don’t cry about insider trading because you didn’t listen to him.

Jeff Kassel
Jeff Kassel
1 year ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

It’s hard to put up with so many apologists for someone who’s been a criminal most of his life, including sexual assaults, tax fraud, tax evasion, payoffs, bank fraud, business fraud….he’s a convicted felon and would have been convicted of stealing and lying about secret and top-secret intelligence documents as well as conspiring to overthrow an elected government….but he got elected so he was prosecuted. A terrible day for America when lunatics put Trump in power. Now he’s attacking and removing anyone who would be a threat to his power including investigators for military intelligence, FBI intelligence and I assume he’s done the same thing across the board. With his inane tariffs, Trump has done a lot of financial damage to America. Who will save America from the most dangerous man in America…Donald Trump?

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Kassel

Does your therapist have to listen to this?

Eadoman
Eadoman
1 year ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

So as long as it’s the president spreading insider information it’s all good. Got it.

Commenter
Commenter
1 year ago
Reply to  Eadoman

It’s not insider info when you announce it publicly. Don’t listen to me though, surely you got him this time!!!

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

50 million people heard the same message at the same time. That is the opposite of insider trading.

Peace
Peace
1 year ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

Insider made billions with meme coins and who listened to him lost billions.

Jeff Kassel
Jeff Kassel
1 year ago

You’re absolutely right. Many were short in the market prior to Trump’s reversal of the big tariffs….and they got destroyed. Trump is an accused and convicted liar, tax cheat, business cheat, who engaged in payoffs and bank fraud. He’s very dangerous and should be removed. He’s gutted the DOJ prosecution staff, installed loyalists to head DOJ, compromised the FBI with Kash Patel, a Trump loyalist. Military intelligence, NSA and military intelligence personnel have been transferred or removed….it looks like a coup and corruption of our intelligence services by Trump and his proxies.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Kassel

Convicted of what?

Peace
Peace
1 year ago

In my country whenever the government make the new law or change the law, the government officials have the new opportunity to make money.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

More important were great inflation numbers this morning. This even before the extended commodities like oil which have gone down a lot and will weigh further on the numbers.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

The inflation numbers were just a minnow on the line to trap longs.

MMchenry
MMchenry
1 year ago

Wow, THAT TRADE IS CRIMINAL!

YESTERDAY – This is beyond obscene AND REALLY CRIMINAL! Trump braggin how many $ billions and Millions he made his Billionaire buddies RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM!

https://x.com/i/status/1910238378064257143

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  MMchenry

Yesterday was an opportunity to sell into the AI bubble. Nothing more.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  MMchenry

LOL downvotes from people who believe that Trump cares at all about working class folk one hundredth as much as his rich billionaire buddies. Keep being his huckleberry, you’re only making him and his billionaire friends more rich, that’s what he means by MAGA.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

We were/are in an everything bubble after 0% rates and QE up the ass. Blaming this or that is silly. Had to pop.

steve
steve
1 year ago

How lovely. That didn’t take long. Trillions fresh inflation instant injection from fed yesterday being cashed out today. They are supposed to go slower to make it look better, but FOMO wins again. Greed is awesome.

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
1 year ago

Insiders always know ahead of time and most make a fortune on the trades. In fact, hasn’t the SEC been primarily dismantled? With no ‘cops’ on the beat, one can only imagine what is going on behind the scenes.

peelo
peelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

The riverboat gamblers are poised to take down the house. I think Trump’s fans who are honest and hardworking and respectable and well-intentioned and decent will be shocked when they get rug-pulled.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

Insiders can trade on individual securities. Market indices, not really. Not of this magnitude.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

One can imagine the exact scenario that is playing out, without much exercise for one’s brain functions.

KGB
KGB
1 year ago

Specialists always cover the gap.

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