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Cheese Was a “Key Achievement” of Trump’s USMCA Trade Agreement

Trump is complaining about Canada’s cheese tariffs. In 2018, he was bragging about cheese.

Key Achievement: Increasing Dairy Market Access

Please note a Key Achievement of the USMCA treaty that Trump proclaimed was the “Best trade deal in history.”

The United States, Mexico, and Canada concluded negotiations for a modernized and rebalanced trade agreement on September 30, 2018. The new United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement (USMCA) will advance United States agricultural interests in the most important markets for American’s farmers, ranchers, and agribusinesses. This high-standard agreement opens new markets to expand United States food and agricultural exports and support food manufacturing and rural jobs.

All food and agricultural products that have zero tariffs under the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) will remain at zero tariffs.  Since the original NAFTA did not eliminate all tariffs on agricultural trade between the United States and Canada, the USMCA will create new market access opportunities for United States exports to Canada of dairy, poultry, and eggs, and in exchange the United States will provide new access to Canada for dairy, peanuts, processed peanut products, and a limited amount of sugar and sugar containing products.

Key Achievement:  Increasing Dairy Market Access

In addition to the current exports of dairy products that the United States makes to Canada of $619 million in 2017, Canada will provide new tariff rate quotas exclusively for the United States.  The agreement includes market access gains for the following American products:

Fluid Milk:  50,000 metric tons (MT) by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 13 years.  Eighty-five percent of the quota will be reserved for further processing.

Cheese: 12,500 MT by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 13 years.  Fifty percent of that amount will be available for any kind of cheese, while the remainder will be for industrial cheeses.

Cream:  10,500 MT by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 13 years.  Eighty-five percent of the volume in year one will be reserved for further processing.

Skim Milk Powder:  7,500 MT by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 13 years.

Butter and Cream Powder:  4,500 MT by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 13 years.  Eighty-five percent of the volume in year one will be reserved for further processing, which will be reduced to 50 percent by year five.

Concentrated and Condensed Milk:  1,380 MT by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 13 years.

Yogurt and Buttermilk: 4,135 MT by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 13 years.

Key Achievement:  Canada’s Milk Class Pricing System

Six months after entry into force of the USMCA, Canada will eliminate milk price classes 6 and 7.  Canada will ensure that the price for skim milk solids used to produce nonfat dry milk, milk protein concentrates, and infant formula will be set no lower than a level based on the United States price for nonfat dry milk.

Key Achievement:  Expanding Poultry and Eggs Market Access

In addition to the $600 million worth of poultry and egg products that the United States exported to Canada in 2017, Canada will provide new tariff rate quotas for the United States as follows:

Chicken:  47,000 MT increasing to 57,000 MT by year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 10 years.  The United States will still be eligible to export up to 39,844 MT under Canada’s World Trade Organization (WTO) tariff rate quota regime.

Egg and Egg Products: 1.67 million increasing to ten million dozen eggs and egg-equivalent products in year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 10 years.  Canada has agreed to allow 30 percent of import licenses for shell egg imports to be granted to new entrants as well.  As with chicken, the United States will still be eligible to export up to 21.37 million dozen egg and egg-equivalent products under Canada’s WTO tariff rate quota regime.  

Turkey: Canada has agreed to provide the United States and other country members of the World Trade Organization access equivalent to no less than 3.5 percent of the previous year’s total Canadian turkey production.  This will allow the United States to export additionally up to 1,000 MT of turkey products each year for the next 10 years than the current access and potentially more thereafter.

Broiler Hatching Eggs: The United States continues to maintain current access as agreed to under Canada-US Free Trade Agreement (CUSFTA) of 21.1 percent of Canada’s domestic production.

Myth-Busting Often Repeated Trumpian Trade Lies

Please consider the Inaccurate list of Canadian tariffs circulates amid US trade war (lead image).

“You guys don’t realize already the tariffs that Canada places on the United States,” the speaker in a video posted to X on March 4, 2025 says. “Take a look at those numbers and see if that’s fair.”

The user goes on to display a list of fees Canada supposedly imposes on American products, including tariffs exceeding 200 percent for dairy, poultry, sugar and peanut butter and levies above 100 percent for tobacco, rice, vegetables and fish.

Variations of the list — sometimes referencing products such as cars, televisions and aluminum — have circulated since at least late January 2025 on Facebook, Instagram, X and TikTok, after Trump first threatened a 25 percent tariff on Canadian goods entering the United States.

Trump has also claimed Canada and the US have an unequal trade relationship that needs to be rectified

The highest supposed tariffs discussed in the posts were dairy and poultry products, which some users claimed were charged at over 200 percent. Clark explained that Canada has supply management regulations for these types of products, meaning that after an import quota has been reached for a specific exporter, they are charged a much steeper fee. These measures are allowed under USMCA.

Disputing Trump’s Claims

Brookings does an even better job of debunking Trump’s nonsense in A Trumped-up charge against Canadian dairy tariffs

President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners.  The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy.

Fourth, Canada’s purchases of U.S. dairy products are a tiny fraction of the nearly $300 billion in goods Canada buys from the U.S. Until Canada announced its retaliatory tariffs against the U.S. after the Administration imposed tariffs on their aluminum and steel exports to us, Canada’s average trade-weighted tariffs were 0.8 percent, half the 1.6 percent trade weighted average for the U.S.

Canada had already agreed to cut back both dairy import quotas and tariffs as part of its commitments under the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Thus, the only reason import restrictions on dairy products are even an issue is because the U.S. withdrew from the TPP.

In the end, either the President isn’t aware of all the facts about Canadian dairy tariffs and how they could have been ended had his administration stuck with the TPP, or like his misuse of trade deficit statistics to justify import restrictions, he is using another poor justification for offending one of our closest allies.

So Much Winning

There is so much winning in USMCA that I hardly know where to start other than Trump’s statements.

Trump Statements on USMCA

  • August 21, 2023: The highly anticipated Des Moines Register Poll of Iowa Voters is just out: “DONALD TRUMP HOLDS COMMANDING LEAD In First Test of 2024 Republican Caucus Field.” Remember, I got the Farmers 28 Billion Dollars from China, the USMCA Trade Deal (& many others!), saved Ethanol, Social Security, and MediCare, & got Iowa “First In the Nation” status. Nobody else could have done this. Anyway, I’m at 51%, a 31 Point lead over “farmer hating” DeSanctimonious, with the others gaining on him, but not on me!
  • February 15, 2020: RT @WhiteHouse: President @realDonaldTrump’s USMCA will have a tremendous effect on GDP!
  • January 30, 2020: BIGGEST TRADE DEAL EVER MADE, the USMCA, was signed yesterday and the Fake News Media barely mentioned it. They never thought it could be done. They have zero credibility!
  • January 29, 2020: USMCA is a cutting edge state of the art agreement that protects, defends and serves the great people of our Country. Promises Made, Promises Kept!
  • January 29, 2020: USMCA is a massive win for American manufacturers and auto workers!
  • January 16, 2020: One of the greatest trade deals ever made! Also good for China and our long term relationship. 250 Billion Dollars will be coming back to our Country, and we are now in a great position for a Phase Two start. There has never been anything like this in U.S. history! 
  • December 10, 2019: America’s great USMCA Trade Bill is looking good. It will be the best and most important trade deal ever made by the USA. Good for everybody – Farmers, Manufacturers, Energy, Unions – tremendous support. Importantly, we will finally end our Country’s worst Trade Deal, NAFTA!
  • December 19, 2018: Mexico is paying (indirectly) for the Wall through the new USMCA, the replacement for NAFTA! Far more money coming to the U.S. Because of the tremendous dangers at the Border, including large scale criminal and drug inflow, the United States Military will build the Wall!
  • December 13, 2018: I often stated, “One way or the other, Mexico is going to pay for the Wall.” This has never changed. Our new deal with Mexico (and Canada), the USMCA, is so much better than the old, very costly &, anti-USA NAFTA deal, that just by the money we save, MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL!
  • November 30, 2018: Just signed one of the most important, and largest, Trade Deals in U.S. and World History. The United States, Mexico and Canada worked so well together in crafting this great document. The terrible NAFTA will soon be gone. The USMCA will be fantastic for all!
  • October 3, 2018: Mexico, Canada and the United States are a great partnership and will be a very formidable trading force. We will now, because of the USMCA, work very well together. Great Spirit!
  • October 2, 2018: “USMCA Wins Praise as a Victory for American Industries and Workers”
  • October 2, 2018: Great reviews on the new USMCA. Thank you! Mexico and Canada will be wonderful partners in Trade (and more) long into the future.

Flashback October 1, 2018

Late last night, our deadline, we reached a wonderful new Trade Deal with Canada, to be added into the deal already reached with Mexico. The new name will be The United States Mexico Canada Agreement, or USMCA. It is a great deal for all three countries, solves the many deficiencies and mistakes in NAFTA, greatly opens markets to our Farmers and Manufacturers, reduces Trade Barriers to the U.S. and will bring all three Great Nations together in competition with the rest of the world. The USMCA is a historic transaction!

Does anyone have any questions regarding the greatness, importance, and historic nature of USMCA to farmers and manufacturers?

It was such a great deal that Trump thanked Mexico and Canada. Notably USMCA is “Good for everybody – Farmers, Manufacturers, Energy, Unions – tremendous support. Importantly, we will finally end our Country’s worst Trade Deal, NAFTA!”

It “greatly opened markets to our farmers” and it even paid for the wall! And it will bring three great nations together!

Mercy! Who could possibly see things any differently?

I happen to have a Q&A on that, starting with a question to me about cheese.

The first question below is from a reader on my blog. The subsequent Q&A explains what you need to know.

Q&A on the Greatness of USMCA

Q: Is 250 percent on cheese fair?
A: It’s not 250 percent. It’s tiered, and embedded into USMCA.

Q: Who signed USMCA?
A: Trump

Q: Who is responsible for this arrangement?
A: Trump

Q: Didn’t Trump brag that USMCA was the best trade deal in history?
A: Yes

Q: Is Trump a good deal maker?
A: Apparently not, by his own admission

Q: Will Trump honor the USMCA deal ratified 89-10 by the Senate and signed by himself?
A: No

Q: Will Trump honor any deal he signs?
A: You tell me, but no one can expect that

Q: Is there a massive lost in trust that Trump will honor any deals he signs
A: Yes

Trump may not honor any deal he signs. That is the bottom line.

Defense spending, drugs and other Trumpian lies and distortions have nothing to do with this.

Silliness Over Defense Spending , Cheese, and Drugs

Here’s a conversation I had on X.
Questions are all by a reader on X, answers by me.

Q: What is the current Canadian tariff rate on US cheese?
A: It tiered – and Trump signed the structure in USMCA. @cpaforerp
Seems like Trump does not like his own “Best Trade Deal In History”. And deals he signs are worthless. No one can trust Trump to honor any deal he signs. There’s a cost to that.

Q: Do we trust Canada to spend 2% of GDP on defense? There has been no “cost” for them on reneging.
A: Did Canada sign a deal promising Trump that it would spend 2% on Defense? Seems I missed that one. If Trump wanted that as part of USMCA, then why didn’t he put it there?

Q: Lester Pearson negotiated the set up of NATO in 1949. The 2% of GDP agreement was established in 2014. Obama was President and Harper was PM.
A: Show me a senate signed deal [between Mexico and Canada] and I will agree.

Note that Trump cancelled the Paris accord and I agreed on the basis the Senate never ratified it. In fact, I cheered.

For discussion please see Hooray! Trump Cancels $4 Billion in US Climate Fund Pledges

In this case, all I ask is a signed and ratified deal between the US and Canada on defense spending. There is none.

NATO Defense Spending Is a Guideline

Canada never committed to two percent defense spending. In the NATO agreement Two Percent is a Guideline.

The 2% defence investment guideline

In 2014, NATO Heads of State and Government agreed to commit 2% of their national Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to defence spending, to help ensure the Alliance’s continued military readiness. This decision was taken in response to Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea, and amid broader instability in the Middle East. The 2014 Defence Investment Pledge built on an earlier commitment to meeting this 2% of GDP guideline, agreed in 2006 by NATO Defence Ministers. The 2% of GDP guideline is an important indicator of the political resolve of individual Allies to contribute to NATO’s common defence efforts. 

Another Absurd Conversation

X Reader: And I’m sure you’ve never changed your mind on anything in your life.

Me: I have changed my mind many times. So what? Have you ever revenged on a signed deal? I will assume not, me neither.

People use the stupidest rationale possible to support Trump.

I have never broken a signed deal, ratified 89-10 by the US Senate. Trump has.

This brings up another interesting topic. Trump now threatens to leave NATO. Since Congress funds NATO, Trump will not succeed unless Congress agrees.

Trump cannot be trusted to honor any US-signed treaties, even those he personally signs.

The Key Point

Since many people are truly dense, I need to repeat …

Q: Will Trump honor any deal he signs?
A: You tell me, but no one can expect that

Q: Is there a massive lost in trust that Trump will honor any deals he signs
A: Yes

Trump may not honor any deal he signs. That is now an established fact.

Defense spending, drugs and other Trumpian lies and distortions have nothing to do with the established facts. From the realistic viewpoint of allies, Trump broke his own treaty and is likely to do so again.

Spare me the sap about national emergency lies. There is no national emergency on energy, steel, or cheese.

If Trump wanted defense spending or drugs to be in USMCA, then he should have put them into USMCA. Since USMCA expires in June of 2026, Trump did not have to wait long to modify the treaty.

The ultimate irony is all the bragging Trump did about how great the USMCA deal was.

Lesson from Mark Twain

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example. Mark Twain, The Tragedy of Pudd’nhead Wilson (1894)

Nonetheless, true supporters simultaneously believe USMCA was a great deal for the US and the same deal is now a bad deal for the US.

There’s a phrase for that, two actually. The second is TDS Type II (willingness to praise or defend Trump, no matter what he says or does, the opposite of TDS). Figure out the first. It should not be too hard.

Any further questions?

Related Posts

March 3: Welcome to the Recession, Trump Hits Canada and Mexico with 25 Percent Tariffs

“No room left” for negotiations says Trump.

And now US Commerce Secretary Lutnick seeks negotiation. Fancy that.

March 5: The Tariff Clown Show Continues with Another One-Month Extension for Autos

Another one-month reprieve will solve as much as the last one-month reprieve. For those keeping score, nothing.

March 6, 2025: Trump Makes Imports Great Again With Two New Record Trade Deficits

The Census Department reports two new records trade deficits in January.

We have not yet felt the hit on small manufacturers do to extremely unwise tariffs.

For discussion, please see How One Small Business Owner Is Coping With Trump’s Tariffs

Fifty-four percent of small businesses polled said that tariffs would negatively affect their companies, while just 11 percent said they would benefit.

Please read the above post and multiply it by tens of thousands of small businesses.

March 6, 2025: Trump Pares Tariffs on Mexico and Canada, Whipsaw Madness Continues

The 24-hour tariff yo-yo continues. The market isn’t amused with “economic warfare”.

This self-inflicted pain from this economic madness will be huge.

Addendum

I added snips from an excellent Brookings article above further debunking Trump claims.

And deep in converted limestone mines are 1.4 billion pounds of surplus cheese. This started in the 1970s, during former President Jimmy Carter’s era and his promise of giving farmers a break.

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Brian
Brian
1 year ago

You didn’t mention that the U.S. also applies 200%+ tariffs (called TRQs) on imports of Canadian dairy products that are above quota. The first reference link below describes a potential U.S. tariff of 281% on imported cheese from (e.g. Canada). BTW, nobody pays those extreme tariffs; they exist just to efficiently enforce the quota. Another thing you didn’t mention is that Canada actually imports more dairy products as a share of its economy than the U.S. does, i.e. the great free trader America is more protectionist of its dairy market than Canada is!
(Note: These references date back to 2018, prior to/during the USMCA negotiations, but little has changed on the U.S. side. On the Canadian side however, Canada gave up more of its dairy market to U.S. imports as part of the USMCA agreement, after a lot of bullying. It now looks like this was a very big mistake, because the “dairy bullies” are back, and more greedy than ever! It’s now clear that the U.S. will keep demanding a higher and higher share of the Canadian dairy market, while giving up no meaningful share of its own market in return.)

https://www.agrifoodecon.ca/uploads/userfiles/files/us%20cheese%20imports%20final%20draft%2021%20june%202018.pdf

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/a-trumped-up-charge-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs/

Mish Comment
We both failed to discuss 1.4 billion pounds of government stored cheese in converted limestone mines. I added to the addendum.

Last edited 1 year ago by Mike Shedlock
Brian
Brian
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian

Sorry I meant to write “Canada actually imports more dairy products as a share of its *dairy products market* than the U.S. does”.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian

Excellent info. Thanks.

Jim
Jim
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian

Great read Mish, and thank you Brian for the info!

Anthony
Anthony
1 year ago

He has broken his word more times than anyone can count, contradicts himself within the same conversation and his written word is no better. He trashes deals he made and touted as the best ever. if you were Canada or Mexico or Europe would you give i to his demands? why? he’ll just be back for more in a few months.

Trump is a destructive chaos clown who was elected out of anger. He spewed anger and that was attractive to many because many are angry. Now we all get to live with a chaos clown running everything and given free reign, literally by the Supreme Court.

Sy_Tuck
Sy_Tuck
1 year ago

In this part of the Trade dispute I hope Trump wins. Food prices in Canada are much higher than the US. Our quota system and catering to the politically powerful farmers lobby has a lot to do with it.

The simple truth is the world is producing an over abundance of food. Even the third world is getting it’s act together (SA and Zimb aside). We need less farms in the world, but who’s going to take that political bullet.

Anon1970
Anon1970
1 year ago

While a lot of attention is being paid these days to Canada’s tariffs and quotas on dairy and a few other food products, Trump would be better off paying attention to all of the experts at the IRS who are being fired these days. Many complicated tax returns which should be audited probably will not be since there will an even bigger shortage of tax auditors than there has been in the recent past. I suppose there is a legal reason to restrict mass firings to the most recent hires, but that will mean that a lot of unproductive employees will be kept on and a lot of taxes owed will never be collected. See ProPublica’s article on the IRS firings.

KGB
KGB
1 year ago

Canada dug its tariff grave and will lie in it.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

A strange statement.

Canada was living up to its part of the trade agreement.

It was Trump that broke his “best ever” trade agreement with Canada to start a trade war.

A trade war that will likely lead to another US recession under another Republican president. These guys are sure consistent.
.

KGB
KGB
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Trade must balance. Trudeau refused. You are about to witness a contest between a roach and a boot.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

Canada, our friend and ally, was following the trade agreement. Trump decided to break it and stab Canada in the back. And Canadians are pissed off at us now.

The US already runs a trade surplus with Canada when you account for the oil they sell us at a big discount.

And our surplus may skyrocket if they stop selling us that oil, as well as electricity, potash, aluminum etc.

Although without those Canadian products, our economy would suffer greatly.

What a show!

Sy_Tuck
Sy_Tuck
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

umm, the US gets products and food from around the world in exchange for freshly printed pieces of green paper. Trump is not just shooting America’s foot, he’s blowing its head off.

Anthony
Anthony
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

the US has 9 times the population of Canada. it will never be balanced.

Triple B
Triple B
1 year ago

“People use the stupidest rationale possible to support Trump.” 

Reap What You Sow.
Someone needs to take the seeds away from Trump.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago

Surprise! Trump and Lutnick now say that tariffs on Canadian lumber and dairy may be paused till April.

Also, Mark Carney is the new Liberal Leader in Canada. Expect an election in Canada fairly soon. Where the main issue will be who is best at fighting Trump.

Name
Name
1 year ago

Imagine Trump pulling a Biden, Obama, Bush2, Clinton, etc…….

peelo
peelo
1 year ago

Thanks: it takes diligence to sift all this. It is less costly for the guy who just lets out a cloud of contradictions constantly, especially when his faithful do not critically think about it. It is also easy for that guy to pose everything as an overly-simplistic binary, a zero-sum game. Everything is the greatest or worst ever, everyone only exploits anyone else, everyone who questions him is the worst failure and loser ever. That style of signalling is so cheap and easy, relatively to lining up the facts. But that would only be needed with accountability in the masses’ minds.

dtj
dtj
1 year ago

$Trump meme coin dropped bigly today. Record low of $10.57 reached within the last hour.

Name
Name
1 year ago
Reply to  dtj

beanie babies, alt coins, and possibly the “better coins” all peak and drop – its when or if you get in early enough to profit

KGB
KGB
1 year ago
Reply to  Name

bitcoins are a Ponzi second only to Social Security.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

Maybe. You just need to know when to get out. I made great profits on trump coin in just a few hours.

And you should never count on SS.

Flingel Bunt
Flingel Bunt
1 year ago

Does the US or Canada even make a respectable cheese, with the exception of a few boutique brands?

dtj
dtj
1 year ago
Reply to  Flingel Bunt

Vermont cheddar

KGB
KGB
1 year ago
Reply to  Flingel Bunt

America’s best cheese is Velveeta.

Anthony
Anthony
1 year ago
Reply to  Flingel Bunt

good point. vermont cheddar is good, but i usualy go for the euro cheeses because they taste better and aren’t more expensive.

Harry
Harry
1 year ago

“Cheez Whiz adds personality” and Kraft Dinner? Frozen Lasagna? I’ve never seen a chunk of US cheese in the super market, nor milk or dairy in general. It must mainly be incorporated into processed foods for our market.

Trade is far more complex than I realized. They must be going thru hell at customs right now. It’s all meant to be established and made routine. And not adapted to emotions such as bully goal post moving.

Nonplused
Nonplused
1 year ago

Even the “most transparent” people can’t tell you everything they are up to. I believe the actual purpose of this treatment of Canada is to take advantage of the current political turmoil and break Alberta free of confederation, at least to the point Quebec already is. Trudeau and Carney to follow have both pledged “net zero” by 2050, and that pledge includes shutting down the world’s 3rd largest petroleum reserves, located mostly in Alberta. I think a great many people besides Trump have concluded that Ottawa can no longer be trusted to steward a resource of such long term strategic importance to the US, both economically and militarily, to remain at the table when it comes to managing that resource. Thus, Canada as we currently know it must be dissolved. Canada is barely hanging on by a thread as it is. So this might be a case where the actual objective is not the stated objective. The actual objective could be political and economic independence for Alberta, or possibly Alberta as the 51st state. And if they were to have a referendum in Alberta tomorrow, it just might pass. Albertans are sick of the carbon taxes, hostility from the rest of the country, threats to their livelihood, and funding the rest of the country for no benefit to themselves.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Nonplused

If that was Trump’s plan, then it is already blowing up in his face. A few months ago, the pro-oil Conservatives had a 20 point lead in the polls and were going to win a huge majority government in Canada. They would have been a good steward of all those energy resources, that Trump claims America doesn’t need.

Since then, Trump has decided to insult and belittle Canada and start a trade war. This is actually bringing Canadians together and causing a rise in anti-US sentiment.

The evidence is there to see. Canadians are booing our national anthem. They are refusing to buy US products. Cancelling trips to the US.

And most importantly, Canadians may abandon the Conservatives now and elect another Liberal government. Thanks to Trump.

Flingel Bunt
Flingel Bunt
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Canada is too big to be impotent.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Flingel Bunt

If you want to keep insulting Canada, you’re just going to help spur more anti-American sentiment there.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Agreed at the Federal level.

But at the provincial level the conservatives are still fully in control in Alberta. It’s unlikely they are going to put up with another Liberal Federal government attempting to control their oil resources (ie how much they can ship, pipelines etc). If the Feds continue to attempt this in the name of a green policy you should not be surprised if Alberta goes the way of Quebec and has a referendum.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

A federal Conservative government would be pro oil and pro Alberta. Trump just reduced the chances of that happening ironically.

He has also spurred Canadian patriotism and reduced the already slim chance of Alberta having a referendum on independence.

Even in Alberta, 4 in 5 are intending to avoid buying American. Nothing like a shared enemy to spur patriotism.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/tariff-threats-canadian-patriotism-cede-united-states

Also: Just because YOU want something to be true, will not make it so. You should stop reading all those cult conspiracy websites that you frequent. They cloud your mind.

Bryan
Bryan
1 year ago
Reply to  Nonplused

Good insight and explanation.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago

Trump actually signed a pretty good USMCA trade agreement with Canada. He got the US exclusive access to Canada’s supply-managed agricultural system starting at 3% quotas and growing to 20% over time. The high tariff rates listed, only apply when the quotas are exceeded.

Now that Trump has broken the deal, US farmers will now probably lose this access as Canadians are so pissed off that they are now refusing to buy American products.

And every time he opens his mouth and insults Canada, it’s going to get worse. Individual Canadians are cancelling trips to the US. Daily Border crossings from Canada into the US are collapsing.

Canadian Politicians are almost competing with each other now over who can be tougher with the US.

Doug Ford of Ontario will put a 25% export tax on electricity sold to 3 states tomorrow. Other provinces are considering the same thing.

US alcohol products are being removed from store shelves all over Canada.

The province of BC is going to require Americans to pay a fee to drive through BC from the lower 48 to Alaska.

Export taxes are also being considered for the substantial amount of potash, nickel, and aluminum that we buy from Canada.

The USMCA was scheduled to be renegotiated next year anyway which is another positive thing that Trump negotiated into the first agreement. If there were things that Trump wanted to further improve in USMCA, he could have waited a year or perhaps asked for an early renegotiation.

Instead he has broken the deal and started a trade war with our closest friend and ally.

Nonplused
Nonplused
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Canadians aren’t buying anything from the US as it is, due to the fact that the Canadian dollar has collapsed back to $0.70 US under Trudeau. Exchange rates matter. Anything from the US was already prohibitively expensive for Canadians, tariffs or not.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Nonplused

Lol! “ Canadians aren’t buying anything from the US as it is”

Canadians bought $350 billion in goods from the US jn 2024. They are going to buy A LOT less this year. Not because of the low dollar. But because they are so pissed off at us and will avoid US made goods now.

Flingel Bunt
Flingel Bunt
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave

“…Canadian Politicians are almost competing with each other now over who can be tougher with the US…”

Define ‘feckless’?

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Flingel Bunt

Trump = feckless

Harsh. But okay. I guess I can agree with that.

KGB
KGB
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave

When the border closes Canadians will be eating moose meat, maple syrup, and wheat gruel when they can get it.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

You probably have that backwards. Canadians are pretty tough to live where they do. I doubt a border closing would affect them much.

On the other hand a closed border would likely stop all the oil, natgas, electricity, uranium, potash, steel and aluminum we rely on Canada for. When the lights go out and there’s no gasoline for your vehicle, many American’s will look for someone to blame.

Also, I see that because of this tariff war Canadians have a new slogan: “elbows up”. I wonder which political party will claim that as their own in the coming election there.

What a show!

David Heartland
David Heartland
1 year ago

When a person has the TITLE, “Politician” – – I immediately assume the WORST.
Trump is a Politician.
Biden is a Politician.
Bush is a Politician.

Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer, Clinton and so on were ALL Politicians.
What are the common traits and goals of Politicians?

Job descriptions: 1) Lie. 2) Cheat. 3) Steal.
PERIOD!

Ockham's Razor
Ockham's Razor
1 year ago

The OTAN is broke, we have lost old time allies, Putin will invade half of Europe, the cars will be 10.000 dollars more expensive… but, hey boys, we will sell three more pounds of cheese.
Really!!??

Anthony
Anthony
1 year ago

not even 3 more pounds of cheese.

Canadian consumers are boycotting everything American they can do without. it’s not like American made cheese is so amazing go begin with, i mean some isn’t bad, but it’s hardly competitive with European cheeses taste wise and it isnt’ cheaper.

Sunriver
Sunriver
1 year ago

When you are $37 Trillion in debt, everything is a bad deal. For all parties involved.

Desperation has set in for the United States.

Why would a cosmetically beautified deep state swamp give anyone more confidence in our future deals?

Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.

We need term limits and a viable third party.

Flavia
Flavia
1 year ago
Reply to  Sunriver

Yes, we badly need a third party.

Flingel Bunt
Flingel Bunt
1 year ago
Reply to  Sunriver

If we need a third party, why not six, or 10, or 50?
Maybe all you need are a) term limits b) informed intelligent voters.

EADOman
EADOman
1 year ago

Trump appears to be as loose with facts and data as the previous administration.

David Heartland
David Heartland
1 year ago
Reply to  EADOman

OF course he is! He is a Politician!

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
1 year ago

If only Trump could get immigrants to eat trans mice…
instead of our cats and dogs…
he could eliminate two nonexistent issues…
in one fell swoop.

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
1 year ago
Reply to  EADOman

Trump’s 1st administration invented the phrase “alternative facts”.

Chuck Todd had to explain “Look, alternative facts are not facts. They’re falsehoods.”

But he was wasting his time, having already been branded lame stream “fake media”.

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
Winston Churchill

Woodsie Guy
Woodsie Guy
1 year ago

I guess Trump cut the cheese in this situation.

David Heartland
David Heartland
1 year ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

AR-AR!

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