Al Hail Greta
Greta Demands Action Now!
Greta gets accolades for demanding the world Immediately and Completely Divest From Fossil Fuels.
“We demand at this year’s World Economic Forum, participants from all companies, banks, institutions and governments:immediately and completelydivest from fossil fuels,” said Greta.
Even if you are convinced man and not the sun is the overwhelming force in climate change, the idea that we can immediately divest from fossil fuels and have “real zero” emissions is economic nonsense.
Such statements do not merit praise, they merit ridicule. And her parents deserve scorn for putting her on stage to be used in this way.
The media treats Greta like she is some sort of saint. Actually, she is little but a pawn in someone else’s game on a fool’s mission to achieve the impossible.
Success Defined
Ironically, Greta’s message is so absurd that if we did what she asked, there would be panic and a global economic collapse.
Among other things, food production would collapse. Of course, if 90% of the people died from starvation from her idiotic proposal, we would come close to her goal of “success”.
Meanwhile, Greta travels the world to preach her silly message wearing shoes and clothes with a high carbon footprint. Worse yet is the carbon footprint of her travels.
Greta’s Carbon Footprint
Greta sometimes travels by an alleged zero-emission sailboat.
However, please take a look at Greta Thunberg’s Not-So-Little Carbon Footprint.
She most recently traveled to the United States, and is now about to embark on a whirlwind tour as part of her global climate strike, and won’t return to Europe for nine months. She’ll now be heading to Canada, then Mexico, and then in December Greta will head to Chile for the UN climate conference. That’s a lot of traveling.
So how does Greta get around to all her speaking engagements on behalf of the planet?
You might be surprised to learn that Greta didn’t come to the US by air. No, Greta came by boat. And not just any boat—we’re talking about a zero-emissions sailboat called the Malizia II, which took her weeks. Malizia II has solar panels and underwater turbines that generate electricity onboard. Experts say that the Malizia II offers the lowest-carbon way to cross the Atlantic. Fantastic!
That’s the picture that Greta supporters would like you to focus on. But there’s another side to this eco-friendly journey: Two crewmembers had to fly across the Atlantic to New York to bring the boat back, and two of the crewmembers that made the original voyage had to fly across the Atlantic from the US to return home. That’s four flights to keep Greta from making two.
We won’t even mention the train trip Greta took to get to Plymouth, England, in order to set sail, nor will we mention the numerous freeze-dried meals, which we assume are encased in some single-use plastic product, which by our estimations, the two-man crew, Greta, her father, and some cameraman documenting the experience equated to over 200 meals. We also won’t talk about how Greta will return home, since the boat has since returned to Europe.
In a nutshell, the 5,337-kilometer flight times four people generated 2,134,800 grams of C02 by our calculations, just for the flights alone.
Trump Threatens Retaliation On Proposed Carbon Taxes
The above article is from October 2019, but I just came across it while researching Trump Threatens Retaliation on Proposed EU Carbon Taxes.
Comments From Acting Man on Carbon Taxes
The EU and Germany in particular is committing economic suicide to battle a non-problem. This is too absurd for words; of course, politicians in Europe never let an opportunity to raise taxes pass them by – and they try to make others pay as well now, because they know Europe is losing on every front in terms of tax and regulatory competition. I’m opposed to Trump’s trade war, but in this case his threat of retaliation actually deserves to be supported, if only because it may lead to the EU thinking twice about imposing yet another layer of taxes for absolutely nothing.
In Germany electricity prices have gone through the roof, and for what? We hear that global temperatures continue to rise (based on highly dubious, very likely outright fraudulent data) and CO2 in the atmosphere also continues to rise inexorably year after year. What exactly are Germany’s citizens making this sacrifice for? 100ds of thousands are living in “energy poverty” by now and can no longer afford to heat their homes properly in the winter. Germany used to export electricity to the rest of Europe – today it is now dependent on imports to prevent its grid from collapsing when there is not enough wind or sunlight. And all of this happened under the “conservatives” of Merkel!!
The above accurate comments from Pater Tenebrarum at the Acting Man Blog.
Fashionista Report
Also consider the Fashionista report IS YOUR GRETA THUNBERG T-SHIRT CONTRIBUTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE?
The problem with T-shirts, even those purporting to promote climate action, is they’re especially hard on the environment. Just growing the cotton that goes into one can take 2,700 liters of water — enough for a person to drink for two-and-a-half years — and, if it isn’t farmed organically, a third of a pound of pesticides and other agricultural chemicals. T-shirts, particularly those with “heathered” yarns of mixed colors, may contain polyester and other synthetic fibers, which are derived from crude oil and emit greenhouse-gas emissions from extraction to disposal. They’re also linked to the production of microplastics: minuscule fragments of plastic, tinier than one-fifth of an inch, that slough off during laundering to pollute the oceans, tap water, table salt and the guts of every species of sea turtle.
Greta might not be able to control T-Shirts with her name on them, so cut her some slack for that, but not the fools buying them in her name.
The important point is Greta cruises and jet sets accompanied with a film crew in the name of zero emissions while having a carbon footprint greater than nearly everyone else on the planet.
She demands we do as she says, not what she does, knowing full well if we actually did what she asked, there would be a global economic collapse.
All hail Greta, the great carbon hypocrite.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Realist accused me of making a post for clicks.
That is going to get someone blocked almost anywhere.
He is entitled to his views on global warming. He is not entitled anywhere to throw insults at the host.
Then someone (Two wagoner clones) shows up out of the blue and then starts agreeing with anyone who throws insults.
I do not mind disagreement but if they are over the top, like Realist’s were then they are gone.
What kind of grotesque grown man feels threatened by an idealistic young teenage woman… LOL, Mish you are grotesque. You are the past, don’t you get it? You are living out the past, and you get a little glimpse of the future as you fade into irrelevance.
Record Antarctic ice cover in 2014… I suspect it hasn’t changed much.
Researchers are no longer in doubt:
Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter. Its all BS right? https://www.nrk.no/chasing-climate-change-1.14859595?
I wasn’t aware that climate researchers were ever in doubt.
When your salary depends on it …
numike,
Greenland used to be green (ie warmer) long before human generated CO2. Climate scientists make a huge scientific blunder by mistaking correlation with causation. They don’t do this because they are stupid, but because they serve a political agenda – not a scientific one. As TheLege says above, their jobs depend on going along with the lie. I used to be a believer, until I thoroughly researched the science. Mish often references Tony Heller, who was very helpful to me in my journey from believer to skeptic. Tony presents a lot of real world data, (such as historical newspaper clippings) that make it uncomplicated to see the truth. It’s easy to fool people with theoretical computer models and manipulated climate data, which makes the case for CAGW look rock solid – until you dig deeper.
The little hypocrite was finally removed from the media. Her news cycle is over. She is now out of sight – out of mind.
Realist : I cut you far more slack than anyone in history.
Here’s the deal, the next time you or anyone accuses me of writing such posts to generate traffic, I will delete every comment you ever made.
I would advise you to Stop being an idiot. I do not tolerate blatant bullshit.
Take your climate horseshit elsewhere.
There is an element of “you first” when it comes to carbon footprints. But the real problem is that we would rather apply a political or economic solution to an engineering problem. IF the science is correct, it would make sense to do what an engineer would do: Look at all the alternatives and find the least cost solution. But that’s nuclear fission, and therefore distasteful and artificially expensive. So the engineers look at the consumption side and drive for efficiency. So far that seems to be working pretty well for some things, not so great at other things, and not at all (because they’re already pretty darn efficient) on many things. And many people aren’t willing to change to the new technology for some legitimate and not-so-legitimate reasons. And no, nostalgia for the good old days isn’t a legitimate reason.
It also doesn’t help when idiot media types continue to parrot foolish pop scientists who spout off old chestnuts like “Every minute of every day the Sun supplies enough ‘energy’ to supply 100X all our needs forever.” Guess what, we’re already using most of the energy from the Sun, in the form of keeping water (and us) liquid. Or “There’s enough wind in west Texas to supply all the US electricity needs.” OK genius, how’s that supposed to work? Meanwhile, if the clock is ticking, maybe we should start telling all these countries building fossil fueled plants to stop and ship ’em some wind turbines instead. Oh but they don’t live in El Paso.
The Peace Prize committee is just working hard to reduce their carbon footprint, by nominating someone next door, who doesn’t have to fly (or sail) to come pick it up.
I was her her handler, I’d have her walk across from Sweden to pick it up, like some blond, little Gandhiette. And then give schoolkids the day off when she walks past, so they could join her in a display of holier-than-thou “solidarity” between all the Scandinavians living high off of oil and gas exports.
Here in California the next battle line against GW has been drawn, and its name is natural gas.
Berkeley and San Francisco don’t want people to use it.
One small problem is that if you stop use of natural gas, the amount of electricity required will go up significantly. Dealing with this problem right now for a project in San Francisco.
Funny enough though, it wasn’t that long ago that the same people were encouraging the use of natural gas as a ‘cleaner’ solution.
Every renewable electricity production system uses natural gas as a backup. Every one. I’m in California this week and drove through a very large wind turbine plant. Right dead in the middle of it is a 4 gas turbine plant. It takes up a fraction of the (California priced) real estate of the wind turbines. It probably produces, on a KWh basis, more net electricity than all the wind turbines. If it were a small modular nuclear reactor it would probably produce 2X as much, but the up front cost for lawyers would exceed the revenue it would generate for at least a decade.
And unlike the wind turbines, it doesn’t kill birds.
Greta, of coarse, is demanding the impossible. That is why she herself cannot comply with her own demands.
AOC said she doesn’t have to comply, because she lives in the world.
Well, we all live in the world. Interesting how the elitist climate screamers exempt themselves, while wanting to force a lower standard of living on others.
The local power company sent out a mailer, comparing my electrical usage to other similar households. Mine always came within the bottom 6% of electrical usage. The average local user is consuming a lot more electricity than i am. I wonder, how many of them are climate change advocates?
All new religions crave founding myths and heroes. Greta makes a prettier postcard than a windmill for Gaia resurrection, and it’s not all bad to have Germany worshiping Greta and raising windmills versus worshiping Hitlers and raising million man armies.
All Animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Four legs good, two legs better!
Funnier in the Hebrew translation, where “equal” and “worth” is the same word.
“Greta gets the Gore treatment.” It’s GRETAGORE!! up next on Comet.
Seems some people remain easily triggered….”snowflakes”, I believe the word is.
Do you shed a tear when you eat a carrot?
She is saying what a chorus of adults want her to say. Have to agree that kids today are having their minds abused with this stuff, teaching them to emote rather than how to think. My middle schooler’s social studies teacher tells them that the most important lesson of his class is: “you can survive climate change.” Huh?
What about their grandkids, “huh?” Think they’ll be ok too? What about theirs? Really, if you think we’re living sustainably then I can understand why you would be puzzled by all the fuss.
Oh, maybe we should see what science has to say about all this? Oh they already said this doesn’t work out well for us? Oh, so what are we doing about it? Oh right, writing articles complaining about a teenager who asks us to pay attention to the science. Good stuff.
It depends on which scientists you listen to.
Greta is like child actors (and she actually is an actor, even if she doesn’t realize it). She will also end like a child actor – either forgotten or abusing various substances after she realizes she has been used.
I have a Norwegian friend who frames it quite well: Greta is the victim of child abuse. Her parents have terrified her.
But in any case, the argument that she is a hypocrite is based on how normal people measure the actions of others. In Greta’s case, as with all those high profile celebrities who fly around the world telling others not to fly around the world, her carbon emissions are an irrelevance, because it is an “investment”, the return from which comes from other people stepping into line.
Of course this is largely nonsense, since the only way of meaningfully CO2 emissions is to stop the acceleration in the developing world. And strangely she hasn’t travelled to Beijing to tell several billion Chinese that they cannot live the life of privilege that she has.
Nobel Peace Prize within a year or two I suspect.
Other way round maybe, she probably reminds them whenever they get out of line that they are breathing out CO2 .
Shes a child. What can she possibly know that others havent told her. This is core problem with all child heroes.
My favorite recent one was Elizabeth Holmes. Brilliant child drop out knew something. . . No. It never happens. They havent had enough time to know anything other than the trends.