Biden Reverses Campaign Pledge, Opens Door for Nuclear Strike as a Deterrent

Image from Wall Street Journal video.

Option to Use Nuclear Weapons First is Back on the Table

Reversing his campaign pledge, Biden bows to pressure to allow First Use of Nuclear Weapons

That’s a WSJ not paywalled link. Click for a video of US vs Russia nuclear capability.  

During the 2020 campaign Mr. Biden promised to work toward a policy in which the sole purpose of the U.S. nuclear arsenal would be to deter or respond to an enemy nuclear attack.

Mr. Biden’s new decision, made earlier this week under pressure from allies, holds that the “fundamental role” of the U.S. nuclear arsenal will be to deter nuclear attacks. That carefully worded formulation, however, leaves open the possibility that nuclear weapons could also be used in “extreme circumstances” to deter enemy conventional, biological, chemical and possibly cyberattacks, said the officials.

Congressional Republicans had criticized Mr. Biden for considering a “sole purpose” doctrine.

Hey, let’s threaten to use nuclear war to stop cyberattacks. Why not? What can possibly go wrong?

And as an added bonus, if something does go wrong, think of all the broken windows that will need replacing and how that will boost GDP 10,000 if not 100,000 times more than a major hurricane. 

For those who don’t understand sarcasm, I am referring to the Broken Window Fallacy

Meanwhile, keeping the option of using nuclear weapons first does nothing but make it more likely that others will decide they would rather be first.

Thus, the idea that threat of a nuclear first strike is a deterrent is sheer madness. 

Then again, what’s possibly more bullish than nuclear war?

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honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
When is the military going to coup, this is a government hell bent on destroying life. Biden, the pale white horse….may his whole Admin reap what they sow…..scum
Call_Me
Call_Me
2 years ago
Per the broken windows, Flanders and Swann had something to say about the glaziers–
Call_Me_Al
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Watch “The Day After”. That is how it will all end one day. And the movie leaves out who fired first because there is no way of knowing.
Anyway looking more like Putin is backing down so he doesn’t lose power completely. Now it’s time for the march of democracy and revolution to Moscow. Maybe this time unlike 2011-2013 it will end differently. Putin has a mess to clean up at home and retreat in Ukraine is the only option.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
2 years ago
Nice conversations and opinions indeed below here , conversations that wouldn’t have been necessary if our so called western leaders still enjoyed a couple of braincells…looks like all those superfluous poison jabs in recent years took care of that ….the beginning of the end is nigh no doubt about it …..
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
If you stop posting, at least we’ll know what happened, and the end is nigh.
Send a post every morning to reassure us.
ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
2 years ago
Wouldn’t hypersonic missiles in the Ukraine force Putin into a first strike?
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Doesn’t look like the Russian artillery isn’t very accurate. They might just shot themselves in the foot by hitting their own country.
Webej
Webej
2 years ago
The whole war in Ukraine is largely about forward deployed pre-emptive nuclear weapons in Romania, Poland, and Ukraine.
US has been playing crazy Uncle Jimmy claiming the installations are to protect us all from Iranian & N Korean ballistic missiles, even though US ABM and Patriot record is not confidence inspiring.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Everyone seems to think a nuclear strike = ICBM’s (or SLBM’s) and a whole lot of them at once.
It could simply be using tactical nukes against enemy forces (think Chinese invasion of Taiwan and the US uses a couple of tactical nukes to destroy the Chinese fleet at sea).
Irondoor
Irondoor
2 years ago
I was a B-52 pilot on alert in 1971. Here was our mission plan at our base in Orlando, FL.
  • Respond to a coded message from the National Command Authority to get airborne.
  • Fly to the HHCL (H Hour Control Line) in the Atlantic where we were to receive a go-no go message.
  • If it is GO, then take all the fuel available from tankers. If they don’t have enough to get back to US, too bad.
  • Once past the HHCL, we could not be recalled. We press on to the target in Russia, going low level (under 500 ft).
  • The target was at or near Moscow. Two thermonuclear bombs.
  • After dropping the bombs, we were to proceed to the N African desert to refuel, rearm and bomb another target somewhere.
Our assumption as a crew was that either we would get shot down by fighters or surface to air missiles over Russia, or by the time we got to Moscow it would have already been struck by multiple ballistic missiles from the US or Europe and there would be no opposition.
We didn’t consider the second strike a viable idea.
These same type of mission plans are alive and well in alert bunkers, in missile silos and nuclear submarines around the world and in many countries. It is a miracle that we have made it this far alive.
Dutoit
Dutoit
2 years ago
Reply to  Irondoor
Is a nuclear missile launched by accident completely avoidable ?
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  Irondoor
So if you were prepared to be shot down, do you set off the bombs so they explode anyway, even f you are not at your target?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Irondoor
I thought the idea behind a second strike was that you could be launched early (since it takes hours to reach the HHCL point) in a crisis as a deterrent so that you could not be destroyed on the ground in a quick 1st strike from submarines (since it would take a while to crew bombers and get them in the air and a missile could come from offshore in a couple of minutes).
This meant that if somehow the ICBM missiles were shot down (or destroyed in their silos in a 1st strike) that at least you’d be able to carry on and hopefully deliver a 2nd strike to the enemy who wouldn’t know when you’d arrive (or where) to finish up the MAD doctrine.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
….your questions might be answered soon…..I am VERY afraid
Dutoit
Dutoit
2 years ago
According to this link (already posted yesterday)
it seems that the Pentagon is deeply against Biden’s proposal. I remember it was also against an escalation of the war in Syria.
It is the converse of what we had in the crisis of missiles in Cuba in 1962, where politicians were moderate and prone to negotiate (Kennedy), but military men were warmongers (Curitis LeMay).

TheCaptain
TheCaptain
2 years ago
Everything that the left accused Trump of doing is what the left is doing. EVERYTHING. As the global debt ponzi goes into the collapse stage they need ever bigger distractions. The left even think they can navigate through a nuclear exchange and come out OK. That’s because narcissists always think they are running the game.
Mish, do you still think Trump was such a bad president? Oh sure, he was difficult to listen to with his constant bragging. But besides being hard to listen to, what else can we really complain about his 4 years?
Turns out that people who complained about Trump were really just linguistic fashion police. Thye were a tool that was used by the left, like toilet paper, used and flushed, in order to gain power. People who complained about Trump are now faced with the growing and real possibility of a nuclear exchange that nobody can win, except for the de-populationists who think 500 million is the right number instead of the current 7-8 trillion on Earth.
What a bunch of gullible fools.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
2 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Look who is behind the curtain, the hand that moves the puppets.
Sure enough, the person who has the final decision matters. During the Cuban missile crisis, it was Kennedy, and the captain of the submarine who didn’t launch.
Do you want to get really scared? Kamala Harris.
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
you mean sheep, democrats have little brain cells, they feed on grass and are blinded by reality…
everyone of them should be sucking up for their voting stupidity
FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
2 years ago
It’s petrifying that this dementia patient has the codes for nuclear weapons. His wife should be charged with elder abuse and sedition for knowingly allowing him to run for president.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Wait a minute. Has anyone here ever studied the Cold War, MAD, and other geopolitical principles like it? Biden is using meta-messages, and this is obviously a game of brinkmanship. Nuclear war is now binary. It doesn’t happen and we live, or it does an human society will functionally speaking no longer exist. Who wants the second option just to win a D measuring contest? Putin isn’t THAT dumb or crazy, and if he is going demented we have to trust his aides will eliminate him before he eliminates humanity.
Don’t believe for a second Biden would actually rain nukes on Russia. Let’s put lots of cash on this. If you win, you’ll never collect as we will all be dead.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
2 years ago
You forget that there is a section of the population that wants to see mankind reduced to 500mn.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
There’s some truth in what you say, also naiveté. MAD works when both sides are roughly comparable–hence the arms race. Once out of balance, (asymmetrical forces) the game changes. Once both sides knew within seconds of when the other side launched missiles, nuke submarines became the must-have weapon. The US developed star wars, never really put to the test.
Right now, Russia has the Poseidon, a nuclear-powered torpedo. Undetectable, very high speed, long-range, impossible to stop. Highly destructive. They don’t need precise targets, close to any large city on the east/west coast. There is no warning. No sirens. After the big boom, the tidal wave comes ashore.
Now, MAD rules change. With a Russian initiative, the US is largely wiped out in the first few minutes. The only way to win is shoot first, before the Poseidon torpedoes are activated.
Sorry, but the doddering old fool in the White House will NOT save the USA.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Aka the innocuous sounding, Status-6
You can read about it here: link to en.wikipedia.org
Webej
Webej
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Not to mention a volley of Zirkons from some sub loitering within 1000 miles of the coast, could destroy Washington & NY within minutes without even setting off an alarm or radar detection (as we learned the past week from Iarovov hit).
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
“Don’t believe for a second Biden would actually rain nukes on Russia.”
Not on Russia. But possibly on Yemen. or Iran. Or for an encore over Tora-Bora, in an attempt to appear not to settle for being quite so obviously bitch-slapped.
Russia and the US have little more than ultimate destructive capability left to bring to the table anymore. Aside from that, the world is outcompeting and passing them by. Even militarily: With drone tech and a renewed appreciation for the US 2nd. around the world. Hence, casting about for ways to leverage that one comparative advantage they still possess, is largely all they are reduced to. And animals rarely lash out from a position of strength. But rather when they feel threatened.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Deagel.com had posted a US population estimate of 110 million in 2025.
Not looking so far-fetched now.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
That which does not kill you makes you stronger…
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
If you don’t have a nuclear-proof shelter, now might be a good time to get one.
And to think 81 million people voted for this demented clown!
Here’s Ms. Pelosi, another demented clown : link to youtube.com
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
81 million votes maybe but no damned way 81million people.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
TOUCHÉ
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
STOP THE STEAL. RE INSTATE THE DONALD. / SARC. I LOVE THE NITWITS IN AMERIKA. SO ENTERTAINING. LEFT AND RIGHT.
Naphtali
Naphtali
2 years ago
I would advise people to get out of the cities.
thimk
thimk
2 years ago
Reply to  Naphtali
Many already did
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  Naphtali
I was overprepared by at least 20 years.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Naphtali
It won’t help. Radiation goes hundreds if not thousands of miles and lasts a very long time. The lucky ones might be those destroyed in the blast rather than those suffering a slow death by poisoning.
Don’t forget there are dozens if not hundreds of nuclear power plants that would be destroyed in a nuclear war adding to the long term radiation (imagine hundreds of out of control Chernobyl / Fukushima).
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
“Biden Reverses Campaign Pledge, Opens Door for Nuclear Strike as a Deterrent”
I thought the narrative was that the other side would nuke the first in response, in a mutually assured destruction.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Offense can be better than defense. Sometimes a sucker punch is the best approach.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
“Sometimes a sucker punch is the best approach.”
Only when you’re weak. Tyson (either one..) would gain very little by sucker-punching grandma.
If your stick (or your …..) you can afford to talk softly. Leaving your biacthes to do the reckless flailing about. Just channeling my inner pimp….

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