Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney explains what happened.
“The US introduced in the last hours efforts to restrict our ability to have other trade deals. You heard me say a moment ago what we’ve accomplished in the last year, 20 new deals, economic and security partnerships. The prospect of doubling our market access because we believe in free trade. We’re the partner of choice in many respects for countries around the world, and Americans want to restrict that. They had language that would restrict that. Inacceptable.”
There is no country in the world that would sign such a coercive, one-sided, deal.
Good Faith Bargaining
For more than a year, Canada has worked tirelessly and in complete good faith with the United States to negotiate a new comprehensive trade agreement. We have been pragmatic, patient, and persistent. Our goal has always been to secure the best possible agreement for Canadian women and men. It has never been about signing an agreement at any cost or within a given timeframe.
Late last night, I ordered our negotiators to return to Ottawa. We cannot accept what the United States is offering us, and we refuse to grant them what they are asking of us.
Canada will apply equivalent duties, dollar for dollar, to those imposed by the United States, in order to protect Canadian workers, farmers, families, and businesses.
In the coming days, we will unveil the details of these new tariff measures, which will take effect on the Tuesday following Labour Day.
Spotlight Energy
That is correct.
Excluding energy that the US gets at bargain prices from Canada, the US has a trade surplus with Canada.
Moreover, Trump only looks at goods. The US has a trade surplus in services with Canada.
America Is Trying to Break Us
Carney: “Last spring, I warned that America is trying to break us so they can own us. Canada is becoming stronger and less dependent on America. We are already giving ourselves more than they can take away. And we are just getting started.”
Accurate Reflections on Trump
Ontario Premier Doug Ford lashes out at Trump: “President Trump is the type of person that would steal your lunch money the first day. He’d steal the toque off your head the second day, and the third day he’d steal your running shoes. He is not to be trusted whatsoever.”
Iran Update
Fact Check on Trump’s Claim “Canada Ripped Us Off”
In February, I did a Fact Check on Trump’s Claim “Canada Ripped Us Off”. What’s the Real Story?
For 2025, the total balance with Canada was -53 billion. But the oil balance was -84 billion. Excluding oil, the US has a goods trade surplus with Canada of 31 billion.
Q: Why exclude oil?
A: Because the US needs Canadian oil and gets it at bargain prices too!Energy Synopsis
- The US gets Canadian oil at a 15 percent discount, and it’s oil that our refineries are built to handle.
- The US exports West Texas Intermediate, a higher grade of oil, at a higher price.
- Excluding oil, the US has a trade surplus with Canada for 18 years.
Q: What About Services?
A:The US runs a constant services trade surplus with most of the world.
A Lose-Lose Proposition
Trade wars are a lose-lose proposition.
I have many times stated that the correct response to tariffs is to lower them to zero no matter what other nations do.
I now wonder if that applies when dealing with an economic madman who does not honor any deal he makes, and always wants more.
The question is moot however, because politically speaking it is impossible to not retaliate.
In this case, only 18 percent of Canadians don’t want Carney to respond.
What Trump Understands
The only thing Trump understands is force.
Trump has backed down on China every time China responded to his tariffs by cutting off rare earth elements and magnets.
Due to the political requirement to retaliate, Carney needs to smack Trump in the face as hard as he can with an economic 2 by 4.
An export ban on Canadian oil to the US and/or a ban on Canadian auto parts to the US would do exactly that. Then we would see how Trump deals with $7.00 diesel and no cars for sale.
Because some Canadian oil exporters are shut down for scheduled repairs, the price of diesel is poised to blast higher anyway.
Iran shows the way. Now it’s Canada’s chance. Only overwhelming force works because this needs to be quick.
Dear Mark Carney, please shut off all oil and car parts to the US and let Trump deal with it.
Trump would be demanding renegotiations in about one hour flat.
Lunatic Talk
In case you missed it, please see Trump Threatens to Use the Military on the US Bond Market. What!?
Trump responds to a reporter’s question with an answer that makes no sense.
Given that bond yields and diesel are two things Trump is very concerned about, the fastest way to get a favorable response from Trump would be an immediate, full shutdown of all oil to the US.
That’s much better than a piecemeal response that hurts Canadian consumers as mush as it does the US.
Such a move would impact US gasoline prices, diesel prices, and bond market prices.
US value strength but no one should retaliate against their agressionS ?
2 CacOcRacies disagree – who woulda thunk?
Trump always thinks he’s being ripped off.
There is a good reason for this.
He himself is always thinking about how to take a shortcut, how to get one over on other people, how he can con his way to more money instead of producing something. His obsession with ripping others off is extrapolated to other people, because he is too dense to even consider the possibility that not everybody is playing the con game.
Actually,, you are spot on. My early career was a doge like position in a large accounting firm and I learned a lot from that experience. The big thing was when corporate management is paranoid about fraud, that same management is often mistrustful. Management that thinks everyone is looking to rip them off are projecting their values onto everyone else. Management that excepts that there are bad eggs and you need to be vigilant and watchful is the right mentality. I had several cases where the paranoid management were perpetrating major fraud. My favorite was Frys elec CFO. He came up with door receipt checkers, etc. but the whole time he was getting kickbacks from asian suppliers to off-shore accounts…..
Canada is at a huge disadvantage here. Canada needs the US way more than the US needs Canada. The European and Chinese markets combined can’t replace what the US buys from Canada. Besides it going to cost Canada a boatload more to ship stuff across the ocean than to truck it across the border. God speed Mr Carney.
Preferable to staking your economy on the whims of a geriatric toddler.
Ford is underestimating Trump. Trump gets the lunch money, the toque and the running shoes on day one. Any wonder Trump will wipe Canada clean with his toque.
One factor not included in your analysis is the cost of the military protection the U.S. has been providing to Canada for decades. Every Canadian knows our military couldn’t defeat Jamaica in a war because successive governments have gutted the military. Trump should have told Carney the U.S. will charge an annual cost for military protection. If Canada says no, Trump could ask Putin to sail a destroyer into Hudson’s Bay and see what the Canadians do about it which is not a damn thing. All the talk of Canada’s military achievements were decades ago with an army of white men of European descent. That is not our military today.
Racist loser say what?
Protection? More like a protection racket.
America is already threatening our sovereignty, and if we over-play our hand on export fees, a physically invasion by them is probable.
Whereas Russia has their own Arctic lands to develop, and has their own Northern Sea Route; they don’t need our North West Passage or land.
If I follow your line of reasoning then the USA should start asking for countries to pay us so we don’t attack them.
Alberta is not going to be on board with restricting oil exports to the US. They may agree to an export duty assuming it goes to the provincial government.
Good article. But this tradewar is another Trump distraction. In the background Trump is grifting and self-dealing while everyone is looking at Wars and nonsense policy action. If he gets a minor Canadian concession he’ll claim victory.
He’s brilliant in a sick way. But if democrats win in the house and senate he’ll spend the next two years fighting impeachment.
It won’t take anywhere near that long, he will be impeached in the first quarter of 2027
Impeachment is not removal. It is seen as political now and it is not going anywhere.
Americans hate socialism and free health care more than anything; if trump was smart, he could get a volunteer army of Americans to invade Canada to stop their inhumane death panels. All Trump or the next Democrat president needs to do, is just talk about how regulated their marketplace is, and that they refuse to marketize their healthcare.
Godless Capitalism, May billionaires protect us all.
As of May 2026, Canada holds approximately $435.8 billion in U.S. Treasury securities.
Canada is the largest supplier of fertilizer to the United States, accounting for over half of all total fertilizer exports each year.
Canada supplies approximately 79% of U.S. potash imports
fuck tarriffs export tax baby!
Turn Iowa blue and Kansas too
The big question to me is why is he doing this so close to the mid-terms when he knows that it is going to increase the risk of Congress being in a better position to constrain him in Jan (he gave up worrying about the Republican Party’s ability to succeed a long time ago).
I can only think of two reasons:
Another reason is simply to fire up his base by acting touch. However,all these loons are already locked into him so he gets no additional benefit from this. Anybody got any other reasons? Genuinely intrigued – it is not enough to simply call him an arsehole – somebody is guiding this. (in my examples it is Miller for #1 and Lutnick for #2).
I really do think you are giving to much credence to rationality or strategy
Trump has a long history of just trying anything that comes to his mind, like a political Tasmanian Devil
Further, he clearly doesn’t listen to anybody because he thinks he’s much smarter than he actually is, so this just compounds the craziness.
He himself says that this is his approach. Most likely he was eating his McDonalds, asked how much it costs, some told him its expensive and people are pissed, so he ran off on this tangent
Its really hard to believe this guy is in the chair- we want to believe we did better as a country- but the reality is he’s a goofball
Because he’s literally a pants shitting imbecile.
I listened to a few Canadian commentators both Liberal and Conservative today and the consensus is, it would have made absolutely no difference even if there was a new Trade agreement reached, Trump would of as usual changed his mind and torn it up eventually anyways because his signed agreements mean nothing, I believe the whole World has realized this and so did the Canadian negotiators. And to demand as part of the agreement that Canada cannot pursue trade agreements with other Countries….WTF….????
Didn’t Trump say over a year ago he would get 90 Trade Deals in 90 Days? If he would have signed this one with Canada what would that have been, 3 Trade Deals in 500 days?
23% of Albertans approve of President Trump. If you watch FOX News you probably think that’s 123%.
Any oil that the United States imports from Canada just allows the United States to export more oil so it is neutral from a balance of trade perspective from the United States. It is probably a positive for the United States since we probably export oil at higher prices than we import oil from Canada.
The United States doesn’t actually need oil from Canada but not using Canadian oil would require that at least some pipelines be reversed so that oil could be transported north (instead of south as it generally is now in pipelines). In addition refineries in northern areas would need to be reconfigured to use different weights or gravities of oil.
All in all we had a good deal with Canada. It took a lot of effort to screw it up.
On the wings of stupid, it was easy.
So how much money and time would this reconfiguration cost.
Don’t forget all kinds of expensive refining units that have to be built, not configured.
1) There’s no way, with 774 injured, that there are only 18 dead Americans from Trump’s war. 2) never heard of a toque – although I’ve worn one much of my life. 3) Hang in there Canada. Trump will be gone soon. Also, sorry he’s such a dick.
Toque is a French word, by origin.
I think it’s very interesting so many names who’ve never posted in these comments before are sallying out to attack Canada with the exact same basic posts. Really remarkable!
This is all theatre, both want a deal but the time is not right for either. Carney needs a majority and with the crisis of no deal he should easily get it from the byelections on the 29th August. With his majority he can push the deal through in the fall. Trump needs a diversion from the mess in Iran and Carney is delivering this to him with words like “Canada at War with the US”. What utter nonesense, do a search on how dependedent Canada is on the US for food, and how much food from Mexico is imported to Canada through the US. Let alone the level of ecomomic intergration that has occurred over the past 60 years. Not a Trump fan but as Canadian I’m concerned with Carney and his actions. If the deal fell apart because of extra demands he could have told Canadians about it today, instead he used vague language. Let Canadians and the Canadian Parliament decide if the deal offered was “too little and too late”. Remember Carney was not a great success at the Bank of England. The whole process is profoundly undemocratic and full of gamesmanship.
Canada is NOT dependent on the US for food! On a caloric basis, Canada is a net exporter of food, one of the largest in the world. The purported dependency on the US for food is only for fresh fruits & vegetables in the winter. But Mexico supplies these same fruits & vegetables during the Canadian winter. I’ve been able to *easily* avoid buying US-produced fruits & veg nearly completely for the past several years, starting with Trump 1.0..And it wasn’t just because of Trump, it was also because of the constant outbreaks of food-borne illness that are the result of the US agricultural system’s prioritization of production volume over food safety. That’s not to say that Mexico’s fruit & veg production processes are that much safer, but at least when you buy Mexico-produced fruit & veg you don’t feel like somebody has forced you to do it!😂
By way of friendy discourse you are correct when you state that on a caloric basis Canada is a net exporter of food. Unfortunately the bulk of those exports are in wheat, canola, and pulses with some a large measure of pork and beef thrown in. Our strategic advantage as they say that allows us to import what we need in food.
My point about food imports is not about buying Mexican over American but when most of the Mexican fresh food transits to Canada through the US by either truck or rail, is it in Canadian interests to use words like “at War”. Words like that and given Trumps tatics opens Canadians to unknown and unexpected retaliation. Image the havoc to fresh food that a delay of a couple of days due to paper work would cause to a truck in transit from Mexico to Windsor.
Perhaps I’m wrong but I’m suspicious of the liberals strategy of appealing to Canadian nationalism. I think a low key quiet long term strategy of reversing our depency on the US would be more productive for Canadians. A lament too bad Turner lost the 1988 election. Canadians forget that in 1988 52% of Canadians rejected free trade. What a different world we would live in today.
It would appear that free trade has benefited all of North America since the 80’s. Taco however has been conducting a trade war since he took office. He seems to think that trading with America should come at a premium for the privilege of doing so. This is his MO. He likes to think it’s a privilege for you to know him. Classic narcissism. But he’s finding out we’re not indispensable. By the time he leaves it will take years for the US to redevelop relationships.
Carney plainly stated this is about protecting jobs and businesses. What about US jobs and businesses? This is clearly Trump derangement syndrome in action. We are the largest consumers and are the global reserve currency. What is Canada? A socialist playground of ideas living off the luck of a geographic lottery and natural resources. I bet Mexico is talking to Trump right now. Oil – Invest in Venezuela. Car parts and refineries – Invest in Mexico.
You are so stupid you must be a Trump voter.
It’s called trade, you buy and sell things.
Canada is subsidizing the US economy by selling energy to the US at lower than world prices. In effect, the US is ripping off Canada, Trump is just lying as usual.
Here’s some simple math for you: Canada has 1/10 of the US population. If Canads sells $100 worth of goods or services to the US, the US (in broad general terms) would expect to sell $10 of goods or services to Canada. Unless you assume each consuming entity in Canada buys 10X as much as their US counterparts.
The US trade deficit with Canada is because the US buys a lot of oil (like 4-5 Million Barrels/ day, it varies) from Canada. Do you suppose the US buys that much oil because it has no need for it?
Correct. On a per capita basis, each Canadian buys $8500 per year from the US and each American buys $1200 per year from Canada.
Now, many Canadians are so pissed off that they are trying to reduce that $8500 to zero.
Excellent! I wish Canadian politicians were smart enough to somehow hammer this point home to Americans (a point that I’ve also made, to zero effect on social media) but I realize that it’s a difficult task. Even a massive, eye-catching & truthful ad campaign on US media would have little to no effect on the typical US resident’s attitude in this regard, I’m afraid. The US has an actual free-trading country right on its border that buys more per capita of its products than probably any other nation on Earth & at large scale too, yet it abuses said country as though it buys the least. And I don’t see this getting much better even after Trump is gone tbh.
Same response as last time you posted this same nonsense:
Unfortunately, the world’s population minus 350m Americans has figured out that their future is working and trading with countries other than the arrogant and ignorant USA
This idea that the US can continue its momentum while completely changing how it became rich in the first place is logically moronic
Okay Grandpa tell us all for a second time
What infrastructure in Venezuela?
What plants in Mexico?
When do either of those become operational?
Stop wasting everyone’s time and tell the truth: none of that exists today nor will it by the end of this decade.
So Canada now is supposed to protect US jobs and businesses?
Did anyone notice the dxy went up today? The world including Canada needs dollars not loons.
No doubt, taco screwed it up as he ALWAYS does. What a total buffoon.
Carney is calling Trumps bluff- he will TACO by Monday market open
I don’t believe a thing Carney is telling us. This is all part of the plan to rile up the Elbows Up morons.
Do you believe Trump?
Nope! They are both professional liars. Carney is just a slick sociopath compared to Trump’s buffoonery.
agree. anyone who was bank of england chair and bank of canada chair is naturally a sociopath. trump is just a funny actor who mixes abuse with humor and dancing and big cult rallies. the TEEEEVEEEEE potus for a moron empire.
Your an idiot
I agree that Canada has to do something about the *supply* of some of its crucial inputs to the U.S. economy if it’s going to have any chance of inflicting any significant pain on its opponent in this David & Goliath match-up. Tariffs are a pretty ineffective weapon for Canada in this case mainly because the U.S. exports far less to Canada as a share of its economy than vice-versa. And what little damage tariffs would do to the U.S. economy would also occur indirectly & very slowly, mainly through a relatively tiny loss — or even just a slower rate of increase — of labour employment in the U.S.
So I did some research and I believe I’ve found the perfect analogue for Canada, to China’s use of its dominance in critical minerals to deliver a beatdown to Trump. This way, the heavy artillery at Canada’s disposal — export bans or taxes on oil & other energy exports — could be kept in reserve as they would be relatively quite difficult to implement. And also would expose Canada to the certainty of U.S. retaliation via restrictions on exports of energy to Canada, which would cause lots of economic damage in some parts of Canada.
I started by googling:
“How much is the U.S. dependent on imports of “Northern Bleached Softwood Kraft (NBSK) Pulp” from Canada?”
And received this response:
/start of AI response
AI Overview
The United States maintains a critical and structural dependence on imports of Northern Bleached Softwood Kraft (NBSK) pulp from Canada. Canada produces roughly 41% of the world’s total NBSK output and accounts for three-quarters (75%) of all NBSK production capacity in North America.
The specific scale and impact of this trade reliance is reflected across several key data points:
Volume and Market Impact
2 Million Metric Tons: The U.S. imports approximately 2 million metric tons of Canadian NBSK pulp annually.
Benchmark Standard: Canadian NBSK is the absolute benchmark grade of softwood in North America. Because of its dominant volume, it effectively dictates price trends and supply availability across the entire U.S. pulp market.
Essential Household Products
NBSK pulp is highly valued for its long, strong wood fibers, which are essential for providing premium strength and absorbency in sanitary paper products.
30% of U.S. Toilet Paper: Approximately 30% of standard U.S. bathroom tissue relies directly on Canadian NBSK pulp. [Note from me: NBSK is utilized in the manufacture of toilet paper for its structural tensile strength and tear resistance. So without it, you could still have toilet paper, but it would be the worst toilet paper ever, leading to many angry phone calls to U.S. politicans and possibly even riots (haha).]
50% of U.S. Paper Towels: Half of all paper towels manufactured and consumed in the U.S. are dependent on this Canadian material.
Supply Chain Inelasticity
The U.S. consumer market cannot easily substitute Canadian NBSK. Major American household paper brands operate manufacturing facilities configured specifically to process the distinct fiber profiles of certain Canadian mills. Industry analysts note that many major U.S. mills have relied on these exact Canadian sourcing arrangements for over 30 years and lack local alternatives to easily switch.
While European producers (primarily from Sweden and Finland) have recently increased their U.S. market share to roughly 20%, Canada remains the foundational backbone of the U.S. supply chain. This stark dependency was heavily highlighted during recent trade negotiations, where U.S. policymakers frequently carved out specific tariff exemptions for Canadian pulp to prevent severe domestic shortages of consumer paper goods.
/end of AI response
So here we have what I believe is the perfect “slingshot” for the David in this battle. Canada could easily either cut off its supply of NBSK to the U.S. completely, ratchet down the supply gradually to improve its bargaining position vs. Trump while negotiating, or (for the same effect) apply an export tax (that could be increased in steps) high enough to significantly increase the cost of an absolute necessity for U.S. consumers, who would feel the effect almost immediately and in huge numbers (i.e. much stronger & more immediate than the effect a Chinese export ban on rare-earth minerals would have, on U.S. consumers directly). This would likely be far more effective than even massive tariffs on U.S. imports to Canada, wouldn’t you say?
Even better, it’s a tactic that would impose little cost on the Canadian economy & taxpayers. Even if Canada decided to impose maximum pain on the U.S. by cutting off the supply of NBSK completely, it could inflict this almost literal pain in the butt on U.S. consumers directly and at VERY low cost, by buying up and stockpiling the entire U.S. yearly supply of this critical material for less than 1.5 Billion USD!
One more reason that this idea I’m proposing is so elegant IMHO is that it would clearly and painfully disprove to Americans that Trump’s repeated lies about the U.S. not needing Canada “for anything” are just that — lies.
Oops, “…would clearly and painfully *prove* to Americans that Trump’s repeated lies about the U.S. not needing Canada…”
TP Shortage?! Well, we could all buy bidets, but that sounds French, so no way.
hands down the best product i have ever purchased is the japanese smart toilet. the warm seat is just the beginning of the “experience”. southpark does the best to explain it all. easily the greatest gift santa ever gave me.
your families undercarriage in smart toilet lingo will thank you.
That’s bad, I would like you to be dependent on Canada for toilet paper that won’t easily disintegrate in your hand, thus increasing my nation’s bargaining position with Trump!
Heat pumps and bidets the two best investments in the world.
Canada can go scorched Earth with the toilet paper.
The most vital strategic product Canada makes.
Trump will TACO within the hour, when his bathroom supply runs out. Or he’ll be out in The Rose Garden taking a dump and using leaves.
Trump will be ok unless there is a diaper shortage
trump is not even close to LBJ at his rudeness. LBJ humiliated his staff by taking a dump with door open while he barked orders to them. chairman mao did the same. plucked lice from his pubic hairs while berating underlings in the long march. a few thousand miles little romp through the fields…………
Wrong, Trump is WAY more rude than LBJ, because he’s taking a dump on the whole WORLD — except of course Russia, North Korea, Israel & actually China too when you really look at it — whereas LBJ & Mao only only their underlings via their disgusting bodily functions.
Oops, “…whereas LBJ & Mao only *abused* their underlings…”
😂😂😂
May Alberta secede from the People’s Republic of Canada.
Alberta is the most right wing place I’ve lived in, or visited. US states nearby are conservative but Alberta defines it. That’s a complement not a citicism.
Lots of individualists in Alberta….cowboys, ranchers, loggers, etc.
you mean government teat welfare queens acting like individualists. great thespians like the amerikan MAGA government welfare queens.
They’re getting pipelines built for them and paid for by the national tax base of Canada, so yeah, they might not be the rugged individualists that they claim to be!
they are NOT that conservative. i was early pre ipo investor in aurora cannabis HQ in edmonton. those oilmen and cattlemen up there built an 800k square foot, if memory serves, indoor grow with robotics……near airport and got free water and underpriced electric………they were very nice fellas. made me LOL. now the same company is a takeover target by curaleaf, run by an old investment banker to russian oligarchs. a real genius guy. i made 20x on my money and sold out when it started dropping. it’s now back on fire a decade later. modern amerikans have no clue that things change. states do secede from countries. my decade in charleston SC looking out at fort sumter everyday from my office made me LOL. only a jackass was killed in that first terrorist attack on the federal fort. i smell secessionist movements in usa and canada happening in the next few years. would be a hoot. imho.
The current polling indicates at least 65% of Albertans oppose leaving Canada. That number is currently growing; you can thank Trump for that.
Albertans sound like a lot of crybabies and whiners.
A significant number of Albertans have a victim complex vs. the federal government of Canada and by extension with the rest of Canada, as I’ve commented previously on these pages. It’s fueling the separatist movement in that province, yet it’s quite irrational because Alberta is producing and exporting more oil than ever before *with the rest of the country’s assistance*, and Trump is putting zero tariffs on Alberta’s oil exports to the US, while putting really damaging tariffs on Ontario’s manufactured products. It’s Ontario that should rightly have the victim complex, but this destructive attitude is completely lacking in Ontario (full disclosure: I was born and still live in Ontario, Canada).
Like MAGA?
the only Canadians i ever heard whine are the ones that never lived anywhere else. They just have no where near an understanding of how good they have it.
I never thought I would support a globalist, WEF guy but here I am.
Trump and Carney are talking to us via the press. All we can be sure of is that we are being lied to by both.
I’m heading to Canada in mid September to visit my family. Will be interesting to see what things are like when I am there.
It will be polite, and politics will be avoided.
I am in Canada currently. No problems. Price of fuel is crazy.
“Such a move would impact US gasoline prices, diesel prices, and bond market prices.”
That may be the only way to deal with this stupid orange clown. Because one thing we know for sure….
Do worry, Trump, Walrus, GOP, and democrats will find a way to make things even worse.™
I make my money drilling oil in Canada. I dont want to become unemployed and then lose my house because the tariff rate increases on 20 billion worth of goods.
The way the patch works in Canada is a lot of us are contractors and not eligible for unemployment insurance.
There is a separation movement in Alberta. Shutting off the oil exports and devastating that province would push the Leave vote much higher and destroy Canada. Then Alberta joins the US and gets the oil anyway
Nonsense. Trump would capitulate in days and Alberta is going nowhere regardless
Which drilling company do you work for? Where have you been drilling lately?
Give it a bit. Carney will dangle out a few symbolic concessions in exchange for something he really wants, like an escalation of The War On Russia.
Two of the reasons Canada walked from the
negationsextortion was due to the Americans demanding we buy into the Golden Dome & get all 88 of the F35s, and accept a restriction of Canada’s independent capability to sign trade deals with other international nations…Can you say “51st state”?Pitting the long-of-tooth & inept west against Russia/China/Iran would be a fools’ errand. Carney is not a fool.
Shutting off the oil exports right before a Referendum on leaving Canada in Alberta makes Alberta vote to leave Canada and become the 51st State.
aware – But Alberta is going nowwhere
The Straight of Hormuz will become the 51st state before Alberta ever does.
We don’t wantcha.
And take Texas with you.
Where did the idea come from that Alberta leaves Canada in order to become a US state? The three western provinces should either make a better deal with the Feds ditching the WEF or become a new country. There is no reason to join the US. Not a chance. It is more likely that Ontario would join the West simply to get rid of Ottawa and the Laurentide Elite. One immediate benefit would be ditching the carbon cowboy crowd. What a great day that would be.
I have to admit the idea of cutting off the toilet paper is brilliant. Just the announcement would provoke pandemic level panic buying. Toilet paper is something that touches each of us.
Canada should be buying the F35s. The Gripen is a piece of trash that no one outside Sweden uses. Every test by the Canadian Military showed the F35 is superior. There’s no reason to buy the Gripen other than to avoid purchasing US planes.
That’s the easiest carrot to give to Trump in a deal.
F35: Over engineered trash with expensive maintenance contracts.
Long landing strips required, poor cold temp operation.
The major problem of the F35 is maintenance. It is an exquisitely complex machine that requires highly trained and dedicated technicians to maintain it in the field. Much higher trained and dedicated than recruits with a 4 year enlistment. The US maintained a base in Jordan for its F35s to attack Iran. Iran blew up the buildings which held the inventory and computers needed for maintenance. The US moved its planes to Israel and abandoned the Jordanian base.
Canada should be buying HOT AIR BALLOONS instead of the F35 as they are low maintenance and there is an excessive amount of Hot Air coming from Politicians almost everywhere nowadays to keep them Inflated. Can you poke a hole into that idea?
US kill switches.
True & also every F-35 sortie is controlled by data on servers under U.S. control. As a foreign government you’d have to be out of your mind to spend 10s of billions in USD on F-35s just to have Trump decide for you how to deploy them.
Trump’s gone in 2 years. Canada won’t even take delivery of any by then so that is moot.
That may be.
But regardless of what happens with NATO, Canada will remain a part of NORAD and conduct exercises with US forces. As part of that Canada has always bought US planes (CF18 the most recent) since they do joint military maneuvers and share technology etc.
How will they do that with the Gripen when they don’t share technology or parts etc. Never mind what will happen if the Gripen isn’t allowed in US bases as a potential ‘spy’ plane.
The only country on the planet likely to attack Canada is the US.
Canada is so busy tripping itself up .. that it does not require a foreign force to defeat us. BUT we are always POLITE
An adequate airplane that you can maintain and fly beats a superplane that never leaves the hangar.
Avro Arrow development was discontinued on request of the US. Too competitive. Canada can pull off all kinds of stuff.
Nice jet fighter relegated to the scrap yard.
The Gripen is a piece of trash that wins training fights against the trillion dollar waste of money they call the F35. It’s overblown in every way and Iran proved it.
The Gripen should not be compared to the F35. They have signifantly different costs and performance goals.
Does the buyer get:
Also, why was the F-35 not used over Iran, or for that matter, anywhere where people on the ground can shoot back?
Carney may not be a fool where his personal interests are concerned – successful bankers and lawyers usually aren’t – but whether he is a fool where Canada’s interests are concerned may be another matter.