In a childish move that cannot help, Trump makes a threat he cannot even keep.
Why Make Ridiculous Threats?
The threat is ridiculous because renaming the lake is not in Trump’s power to do.
More importantly, Canadians already feel like Trump is treading on their sovereignty. Childish moves will increase their resolve to escalate a lose-lose trade war.
Canada Strikes Back
The Wall Street Journal reports Canada Targets U.S. Metals, Fish, Foods, Motorcycles in Retaliatory Tariff Package
—Canada plans to impose tariffs of up to 50% on roughly 700 American products in retaliation for new U.S. levies, Canadian officials said Tuesday, escalating tensions between two of the world’s most closely integrated economies.
Officials said that effective Sept. 8, or the day after Labor Day, Canada plans to place tariffs ranging between 15% and 50% on about $20 billion of goods, or roughly 7% of total U.S. imports. Among the products targeted by Canada are U.S. steel, aluminum, motorcycles, washers and dryers, chain saws, processed cheese, clams and frozen octopus.
U.S. steel and aluminum were already subject to a 25% tariff, but that will now double to 50%, officials said.
Canadian officials said their set of retaliatory duties are designed to protect domestic market share for firms directly impacted by U.S. tariffs. Industry Minister Melanie Joly said the tariffs were also crafted to exert maximum political pressure in key races in the U.S. midterm elections in November. “We are being wise and strategic,” said Joly at a press conference.
Trade analysts pointed to the nearly 200 seafood items subject to duties as a sign of that political pressure in Maine, where Sen. Susan Collins, a Republican, faces re-election in November.
Prime Minister Mark Carney said this week it became evident during negotiations that Trump was intent on destroying Canada’s auto sector, and steel and aluminum industries. He said Canada could restart talks with Washington, but only on the condition that the U.S. comes “with the right attitude toward our industries.”
He added, “An attitude at the negotiation table that Canada is a subsidiary of the United States, the Canadian industry is going to be disadvantaged relative to American industry…That’s not something we’re going to accept.”
Who Suffers More
It’s a fools debate to make a prediction based on that.
“Now, while it’s true that Canada will suffer more than the Americans, it’s also true that the Canadians are so pissed off at us right now – 80% of Canadians are against the United States, for the first time in living memory – that they’re willing to suffer more for the point of maintaining their sovereignty and standing up to Trump. And that’s not the case in Michigan. That’s not the case in Maine. People in America are not a fan of these trade wars. They’re not on board with Trump’s strategy.”
“So there will be political consequences, not for Trump, because he is not running, but for Republicans. But it’s pretty clear that Trump doesn’t care about that.”
Trade wars do neither side any good. We have them because a fool starts a trade war, Trump in this instance, and political necessity demand retaliation.
An overwhelming percentage of Canadians wants Carney to respond. So he did.
Canadians are united. Republicans are fearing the midterms and collateral damage.
There are now two simultaneous economic wars. Will Trump be stupid enough to make it three with China?
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Trump threatens 50 percent tariffs on auto parts in January. I suggest Canada respond immediately.
Don’t even ask what’s next.
I just learned that Trumps real name is Drumpf. His grandfather changed when they immigrated to the US. I think Drumpf is German for Dumb Fuck.
Pathetic
So Trump holds true to form and wants to make unilater changes at any time
The exact opposite of a negotiated solution
The only answer is eff him
Same deal as Iran
Trump claims Canada sends 95% of its exports to the US.
Actual data: in 2024 it was 75.9%
In 2025 it dropped to 71.7%
In 2026 it is expected to drop below 70%.
Canada is finding other outlets for it’s exports. The numbers are even more dramatic when you consider the the US has been importing MORE Canadian oil each year.
Canada sold roughly 3.93 million b/d of crude oil to the U.S. in 2024, about 4.2–4.3 million b/d in 2025, and about 4.36 million b/d in 2026.
“Canada is finding other outlets for it’s exports.”
Someone has to explain this to me like Im a 5 year old because this borders like an episode from the Twilight Zone.
The US is currently facing an aluminum shortage. Americans pay 75% more for Aluminum and 64% more than the rest of the world. The US has a 50% tariff on Canadian aluminum. Their alternate aluminum supply from Hormuz has been shut down. Next time TexasTim talks F35s, never mind that the planes dont come with radars for 2 years. There also wont be a shell around the plane. The F35 salesmen are gonna say just sit in it and get the feel. Radar will be supplied in 2 years and the shell will be supplied in 5 years maybe.
U.S. aluminum tariffs and the Iran war—a case study in unintended supply chain vulnerability | Fraser Institute
“Yet the 50 per cent tariff and removal of the Canadian exemption in 2025 pushed major Canadian producers to divert exports to Europe. Aluminerie Alouette, North America’s largest smelter, shifted its European sales from 4 per cent to 57 per cent of production in a matter of months. Rio Tinto stopped selling in the U.S., and even Alcoa reduced cross-border shipments. The troubling consequence of this shift was increased U.S. reliance on Middle Eastern suppliers—the UAE and Bahrain together accounted for nearly one-quarter of U.S. unwrought aluminum imports—but these sources have now been disrupted because of the Iran conflict. With global demand for non-Gulf aluminum sky-high and Canadian smelters operating at full utilization, there’s little chance producers in Canada will redirect back to U.S. buyers in the near term.”
Trump can have Lake Ontario – Carney will take Lake Superior.
Trump is recruiting Rambo to end the Iran War. When Rambo is done with that he’ll take all the lakes from Canada.
Enjoy, everyone.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/hTa2aqGzcx0
After kissing Doug’s Ass, Trump can you kiss mine to?
From ‘Fortress North America’ to All-Out Trade War: How the U.S.-Canada Talks Collapsed
Detailed accounts of the final hours of the negotiations show that, while the United States offered Canada what it said was the best deal of any country, what Canada had to give up in exchange was seen as unthinkable.
How U.S.-Canada Tariff Negotiations Turned Into an All-Out Trade War – The New York Times
Maybe Diaper Don was getting some chaffing from his wet diaper and took it out on Canada? Maybe now that there’s baby crib mobiles that let you moniter your baby on your smartphone Steven Miller is leaving him unattended too long in the crib? Steven Miller strikes me (and likely Diaper Don) as that type. Gone watching a ball game and just turning off the cellphone on him.
Brilliant, First the Americans lose the aluminum from the Persia Gulf and now they lose the aluminum from Canada.
I will miss the clams.
Yes, it’s apparently more important our aluminum products cost more, AND that we produce the aluminum with more pollution since we don’t want Canada to have any lower priced electricity from hydro used in it’s production.
Or is Stable Genius Don thinking we need to charge Canada for that onerous hydro wastewater they aflict us with?
The US is currently facing an aluminum shortage, go figure.
Trump laments lack of U.S. aluminum amid Canada trade row | Financial Post
President Donald Trump, who has argued that the United States does not need Canada, lamented Monday that his northern neighbour did have something he wants: aluminum.
“This country desperately needs aluminum,” Trump said during a telephone rally for Mike Mazzei, a Republican candidate for governor in Oklahoma. “Selfishly, we need aluminum in this country. We don’t have it. We get it all from Canada for the most part, and we need it badly.”
n a social media post later Monday, Trump also pitched a “desperately needed” aluminum plant in Inola, Oklahoma while endorsing Mazzei. “You can’t get Aluminum in the United States, and this Plant will go elsewhere if it’s not approved,” he wrote on Truth Social.
Canada has also diverted much of its aluminum output to Europe. Not an easy task for the States to get that back now with contracts in place and Canada now an “Axis of Evil along with China, Iran and Russia”
Iran War: Canada pushes its aluminum to Europe
“LONDON, May 27 – Canada is pushing more of its aluminum towards Europe to make the most of higher premiums on offer, after its neighbor the United States imposed a 50 per cent tariff on the metal last year.
A loss of Middle East volumes due to the Iran war has hit Europe hardest and intensified competition with the U.S. for low-carbon supply, driving prices to extreme levels, with policy and prices determining where scarce aluminum is shipped, analysts, traders and aluminum industry sources said.
Disruption in the Middle East, which accounts for nine per cent of global aluminum smelting capacity, has upended trade flows far beyond the Gulf, industry sources told Reuters.
An ensuing tug-of-war is playing out in regional physical market premiums U.S. and European buyers pay above the London Metal Exchange benchmark CMAL3 for aluminum, which is used in everything from cars and beer cans to building materials.
“We are in a situation where the Europeans and the Americans are competing for limited aluminum units,” said Bank of America analyst Michael Widmer.”
David Frums opinion on the US aluminum shortage.
David Frum on X: “To make one ton of aluminum consumes enough electricity to power the typical American home for a full year. Aluminum smelting goes where electricity is cheap and abundant, and Canada is a hydro superpower.” / X
Pentagon War Game Exposed a Critical US Aluminum Risk Months Before Iran Attacks
“Falling Short
US policy efforts have so far fallen short, however.
In the clearest acknowledgment yet that President Donald Trump 50% tariffs on foreign aluminum haven’t boosted domestic manufacturing as intended, his administration recently unveiled an incentive program aimed at bringing aluminum smelting back to the US. The plan offers to halve duties on imports of the metal for companies building domestic plants.
Despite “the benefits from the aluminum tariff regime, the domestic production and supply of primary aluminum, which is critical to the US economy and defense industrial base, is still in insufficient supply,” according to a White House proclamation.
Trump’s tariffs have also hindered domestic stockpiling of aluminum. That’s because they’ve helped drive up US prices, forcing manufacturers to buy only what they need as costs rise.”
Well, old Donald may not be strong on theoretical economics, but if he has come up with a scheme to cut duties for firms that are actually building a plant in the U.S.A., you can see that he is being kept informed of what is going on, and is prepared to do something about it. I wish you kids would cut out your unkind references to his old-man bowel problems.
Diaper Don is alienating all our trade partners.
Canada is not.
Canada will win bigly.
Once upon a time, every 4th grade geography student remembered HOMES.
Now it will be SHAME!
[Superior Huron America Michigan Erie]
People know only when they suffer especially US’s allies.
Previously US’s allies were bullying the world together with US. They were happy.
What is the difference between Canada and Iran?
Difference is white or brown, with or without war.
Trump is in very difficult situation.
What’s about EU which is much bigger and the rest of the world?
Tighter and tighter to impose sanction.
And his behaviour is threatening the USD reserve currency status.
And midterm election is near.
Trump desperately needs WINS.
This is not a win.
This is unprovoked and unjustified economic war by US against Canada and retaliated back.
Everybody has been convinced by now that humoring Trump will not work, will just encourage him to come up with crazier demands and more unhinged grievances and schemes.
The only people who continue to humor him are the NATO chihuahuas and Putin, but only the way you would humor a 4-year old holding a loaded pistol.
Dang, Webex, you’re either a Russian bot, or do the best imitation I’ve seen.
I found the list of items to be strange.
Why tariff steel when Canadian steel is already cheaper. Same with cheese/dairy (Canada already dumps plenty of surplus into landfills to keep the price up, they don’t need any from the US). Clams, Octopus? I mean how much of that can Canadians really be buying as those are not big food staples.
What they should be putting tariffs on are items from the US that are readily available from other countries to drive the US item sales to 0 like they did with the liquor when they removed it from stores. That would get US businesses attention quickly.
I think they’re keeping the good stuff in reserve because they know for a fact Trump will continue to escalate. When he does, it’s easier to hit him with a brick then because you can say you tried to play fair until he went about renaming lakes.
The good stuff = oil & potash with an export tax.
“Why tariff steel when Canadian steel is already cheaper. ”
Not steel, but rather steel products. Basically any end product made of steel.
“Canada already dumps plenty of surplus into landfills to keep the price up”
That’s NOT why Canadian dairy farmers dump milk. Your anti-Canada propaganda sources are lying about that and everything else. Because it’s a supply management system in Canada, the price the dairy farmer receives from the milk processor is already set based on production costs, and *doesn’t increase* if farmers reduce supply by dumping milk. And the volume of milk produced by each farmer is set by that farmer’s production quota. So each dairy farmer is constrained by a set price and also a set production volume.
So why do they dump milk? Because it’s very difficult to predict how much milk a herd of dairy cows will produce during a given time period due to a myriad of factors, including even the weather, under a supply management system the farmers aim to produce slightly *more* than their set production volume, so that if they guess correctly, they will produce their designated volume, get paid for *all* of that volume (which is based on the farmer’s quota), and not lose money on feed, labour etc. by producing more than the designated volume. Note that there is a built-in incentive here to *not* produce more than the designated volume because that costs the farmers money for the extra production inputs. But obviously it can be very tricky to hit the production target with so many varibles to deal with, and if the production volume is exceeded the farmer has to dump the excess (though a tiny overproduction margin of error is provided by the system) and this normally happens right at the farm.
By the way, all dairy farmers around the world dump milk because 1) Milk is perishable as hell 2) It’s also very easy to overproduce due to the numerous factors that determine how much a herd will produce, some of which change daily. And it’s not just the dairy farmers that dump milk, the processors do also, when their processing capacity can’t match the incoming supply of milk — and because milk is so perishable there’s little room for error.
Thanks for that great explanation. Very informative. I had no idea how Canada’s system worked. And I bet TexasTim didn’t know it either.
TexasTim used to live in Canada. So he thinks he knows everything about Canada. I find that even I know more than he does, because he makes assumptions based on his political bent. Since I am apolitical, I can take a more realistic view.
Being apolitical helps with investing, too.
I now notice a rightward lean on Wall Street I didn’t recognize prior to taking the plunge to full independence.
Empty post because apparently the site doesn’t allow deletion?
I 100% know how Canada’s (well Ontario’s) dairy works since I grew up in Ontario and had plenty of farming friends.
As Brian notes, there is a Milk Marketing Board that sets prices for milk and each farmer gets a quota of how much they can sell regardless of herd size. This is done so farmers can make a living in dairy which means consumers pay higher prices than they otherwise would in a free market (price of Milk would drop to pennies).
Without the Milk Marketing board and the tariffs, US dairy would flood Canada and drive under virtually all the dairy since the US also has lots of excess milk at even cheaper prices (ie less production cost). This is what Trump wants to happen as part of opening the Canadian market to US dairy.
And yes, lots of Milk is dumped into landfills because you can’t sell more than your quota. Some of the excess used to be shipped to 3rd world countries to help with starving kids back in the 70s and 80s when I grew up.
It has nothing to do with my political beliefs – LOL.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800924003100
Canada dumps 6 billion liters of milk since 2012. That’s not a small over production like Brian suggests.
It’s easy to google Canada milk dumping to see its done on an industrial scale.
ALL of those google search results are based on a single study that uses estimates of dumped milk only, with no actual measurements, unlike studies for other countries that were based on real measuremments. The results of this study have not been replicated. AND the Canadian author of the study has been on a personal jihad against supply management for years.
Also, the study’s estimate of the rate of milk dumping in Canada is more than *twice* as high as that for France, the only other country that currently has a supply management system for milk production, and for which actual measurements exist.
And the authors of the study would have you believe that Canada dumps about the same, or even twice as much(!!) milk as the U.S., which produces 13 times as much milk as Canada does per year!
Altogether, there’s a LOT to be sceptical about, regarding the “6 billion litres” claim. But there are many special interests out there, especially those connected to the U.S. dairy industry, that are intent on tearing down Canada’s supply management system for milk so that they can get more access to Canada’s market. So you see every negative aspect of Canada’s system (e.g. slightly higher prices vs. the U.S., purported extreme dumping of milk, etc. etc.) amplified all over the place. But while far from perfect, this system keeps domestic supply resilient, which is extremely important for food security in this era when food could be used as a coercive instrument by the U.S. against Canada. And the cost — marginally higher prices for dairy products at retail vs. the U.S. — is worth bearing, in my opinion.
You’re welcome.
It’s not hard to understand the list of items that Canada tariffed.
Canada developed a list of products that are exported from swing states. The intention is to impact those states prior to the midterm elections.
The only positive thing about taco is that he largely a tub of hot air and seldom follows through. His primary goal is to make other people as miserable as he is himself.
The classic bully syndrome, among many others.
Canada should rename it Lake Trumpstien.
https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/2092606658232873012
New depths of nihilistic stupidity. A low bar to crawl beneath, but we’ve managed it. What’s next — air strikes on Detroit?
Air strikes on Windsor
Disappointed! I would have expected “LAKE TRUMP”
When it comes to Canada, it’s good to hear from a Canadian: (language alert)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f5eCfezAHOk
Now, if he doesn’t get his way, he’s threatening to demolish the Kennedy Center.
Renaming a landfill the Donald Drumpf Dump seems like a more appropriate target for renaming. Maybe make it a memorial dump, where his ‘Truths’ get tossed. 🤐
Make it stop
We’re all still playing by the playbook, in good faith. That’s what this parasite feeds on.
Trump ( along with a lot of other far right politicians ) wants to remain in power. Bad policy is part of the plan to keep you distracted. They do not care what happens to you me or the country as a whole. Because if your in power it does not affect you.
Cannabilising allies is one of the final desperate acts of a declining empire.
Lac Melania!
Didn’t you mean Nathalie?
Let us keep these comments civil, please.
The tariffs will not stop Canadians crossing the border to shop at Costco and coming to get medical treatment.
I lived there over a decade. Only ever heard of 1 millionaire w a heart issue coming to America for a treatment. And I worked for millionaires.in finance
People/idiots in US don’t know that nothing precludes a Canadian from getting US Health (indemnity) Insurance – but I never found any that did. They are happy w their system and get our same drug bottles. So we can stop the false red-baiting stories, and let them each live with the hundreds of dollars in premiums they save.
Net-net of ALL taxes they’re ahead approximately 16-24% of our health costs.
Costco is all over the world, including Canada. No need to travel to the US for that.
Got any recent stats on how many Canadians travel to the US each year for health care?
Canadian travel to the US is down significantly over the last two years.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jnwnw22ngo
Canada has great Costcos 1.50 hot dogs canadian so like 1.10 usd so there no reason to cross into the land where the leader is a molester and thief. Certainly do not need usa clams or seafood of any kind we buy it off the boat lobster is 5 a pound canadian so that is about 4 usd I think Carney is playing chess and molester is playing tic tac toe
I just have to wonder if he is a russian plant I mean come on you could not accidently fuck the usa this bad it has to be intentional
tarriffs tax the poor and income tax the rich.
His most humble move ever, proposing Lake America instead of Lake Trump, he must be reserving that honor for the biggest of all lakes.
Retaliation would dictate renaming it Lake Canada
LOL
yep the shithole his is turning america into