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Coronavirus Surge in Oklahoma Linked to Trump Rally

Tulsa County reported 206 new confirmed cases on Tuesday and 261 — a record high — on Monday

Map from NY Times Oklahoma.

Dr. Bruce Dart, the director of the Tulsa Health Department, said at a news conference that it was reasonable to link the spike to the rally and related events.

Connect the Dots

“The past two days we’ve had almost 500 cases, and we know we had several large events a little over two weeks ago, which is about right,” Dr. Dart said. “So I guess we just connect the dots.”

By the way, the surge was despite the fact the rally was a big flop. For details of the rally, please see Trump’s Oklahoma Rally was an Enormous Half-Empty Flop

Mish

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LegitJerry
LegitJerry
5 years ago

You have your own blog where you can perform a technical analysis of the charts aka connecting the dots but instead write 7 sentences and link to the NYT.

tgvt
tgvt
5 years ago

You can’t fix stupid, that’s a fact. If Trump supporters wanna commit mass suicide, there’s no stopping it. I for one have no interest in stopping it.

Dubronik
Dubronik
5 years ago
Reply to  tgvt

Let’s just give them the poison.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
5 years ago

Wow. 416 confirmed and probably deaths in OK. How many in last month? What’s that trend? How many with co-morbidity. The coverage of CV19 is disgracefully bad and Mish is just culling small snippets of cherry-picked, vague data to continue his one-man crusade which seems, at this point, to boil down to non-stop ‘Orange Man Bad.’

Wld be nice if Mish’s report included nr of tests and whether or no there were more tests recently – the case in most States.
Also if any result on the daily deaths front have changed significantly.
Also responsible to remind readers that the States have been opening up the past month so both cases & deaths and hospital rates should be going up a little.

But I understand: once you get hooked on something, it’s very hard to let go.

Flyoverstate
Flyoverstate
5 years ago
Reply to  BaronAsh

I’ll “try” & post this again… Mish wouldn’t authorize my statement the last time I tried. I’m sure there’s some semblance of Mish thinks “Orange Man Bad” or it could be that since Mishtalk got moved to MoneyMaven/TheStreet.com his blog needs to drive clicks & eyeballs more than content. He throws out a topic for the Trump Haters & it’s chum in the waters for the commenter’s. I’ve been reading Mish for years, lot’s of years and it used to be a civil place for me to learn facts and get good economic insights. Mish actually hammered the poster’s if he even got a hint if they were out of line and I remember some that were put in Internet Jail for a short period. But now it’s game on to see who can throw the baddest insults at the other comments and Mish can sit back & giggle and cash the checks. Just my random thoughts & opinions.

Avery
Avery
5 years ago

Going for my 7 mile trail run. 85 degrees and sunny. Attack the uphills!

“Get busy living or get busy dying.”

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
5 years ago

Herman Cain at the rally … and, uhh, he has since tested positive … surely, coincidental …

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
5 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett

How are the others in the picture doing?

cienfuegos
cienfuegos
5 years ago

TDS has sapped your credibility… you’re just being a “resistance” shill at this point. But at least now you can vote for Romney. 😆

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
5 years ago

A seventies Jackson 5 song pops up in my mind : don t blame it on the sunshine, don t blame it on the moonlight….blame it on the…. Trump…

gregggg
gregggg
5 years ago

… and we are now at 2/3 of the death toll per 1000 of the Asian Flu of 1957, which we didn’t shut down the economy, didn’t lock people in their homes, threaten fines and arrests over masks. And what do we have to show for this corporate driven pandemic? More Karens. Divide and concuer.

Webej
Webej
5 years ago
Reply to  gregggg

Not counting the 120-256 million Corona-related shut-down that Oxfam and the UN’s FAO are warning about.
Starvation is actually a pretty gruesome event, particularly for children.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
5 years ago
Reply to  gregggg

Just think about that would have happened if we had done nothing! The death toll in NY alone would have been in the hundreds of thousands given the transmission rate of the COVID virus and the daily ridership level of of the tri-state mass transit system and the volume of people riding elevators at rush hour.

Phantastic
Phantastic
5 years ago
Reply to  gregggg

Another slow fellow who doesn’t grasp exponential growth

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  gregggg

Patience, we’ll get there, and more, before we’re done, especially with the sorts of policies many favor. What do we have to show for all the intervention? Well, the Dow was down 15% in 1957, and this time it’s flat, while the S&P is up, and the Nasdaq is way up.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
5 years ago
Reply to  gregggg

@Greggg as @ToInfinityandBeyond points out, unfortunately, we can’t compare 1957 to 2020. Apples to oranges. What would the death toll be in 1957 if they locked down? What would 2020’s death toll be if we didn’t lock down? No one knows either number at this time.

Too, mobility, population densities, and economic resources have changed from 1957 to 2020. Comparing Mexico today to a 1957 US would probably be closer than comparing 2020 US to 1957 US.

Interesting trivia: What 2020 country most closely matches 1940 US in population, infant mortality, GDP per capita, etc.?

Russia.

Jojo
Jojo
5 years ago

No one cares about raw CV19 case numbers, hospitalizations or deaths any more. Many people here are looking for some economic tie-in to current events. Suggest that would be a more profitable area for you to focus on.

Here’s an article from ZH today that has more use to everyone.

Major Tax Increases are About to Slam America as Cities and States Want You to Pay for Covid Fallout
July 7, 2020

Augustthegreat
Augustthegreat
5 years ago

Coronavirus Surge in the U.S. Linked to the Stupidity of the People and Their Stable Genius Dear Leader with his Beautiful Cloth on.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
5 years ago
Reply to  Augustthegreat

And therein lies the problem. Covidiots one and all. Trump really is dumb and his followers, sad to say, even dumber. Pretty damning of the US education system.

Jdog1
Jdog1
5 years ago

That cannot be right. According to the TDC crowd, no one showed up to the rally.

I suppose that because cases have spiked nationwide in the past 2 weeks, the TDC crowd will blame Trump for the rise nationwide….. right? I wonder if TDC will ever be diagnosed as a mental health problem?

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

HOUSTON — Houston hospitals have been forced to treat hundreds of COVID-19 patients in their emergency rooms — sometimes for several hours or multiple days — as they scramble to open additional intensive care beds for the wave of seriously ill people streaming through their doors, according to internal numbers shared with NBC News and ProPublica.

At the same time, the region’s 12 busiest hospitals are increasingly telling emergency responders that they cannot safely accept new patients, at a rate nearly three times that of a year ago, according to data reviewed by reporters.

The increase in ambulance diversions, coupled with the spike in patients being held indefinitely in emergency rooms, are the latest indicators that Houston hospitals are straining to keep up with a surge of new coronavirus patients. ProPublica and NBC News have previously reported that a public hospital in Houston ran out of a medication to treat COVID-19 patients and that a spike in at-home deaths from cardiac arrest suggests that the death toll from the coronavirus may be higher than official statistics show.

On Thursday, 3,812 people were hospitalized with COVID-19 in the region, including more than 1,000 in intensive care units, a record since the pandemic began. At the same time, since Texas officials have not issued another stay-at-home order to slow the virus’s spread, hospitals are also still seeing a steady flow of patients in need of care as a result of car accidents, violent crime and heat-related medical emergencies.

Jojo
Jojo
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

And? So what do you prescribe? Forced testing? Weld people’s doors shut? Shut down the TX (and other states) economies?

You and others here like to fan the flames of fear. But its a free (supposedly) country, so what do you want to do other than hear yourself talk virtually via Mish postings?

gregggg
gregggg
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

How many are actually Mexican patients flown in from Mexico on a one way ticket? That’s what Riverside, California is doing. Muchas gracias señor.

Phantastic
Phantastic
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

They’re parking freezer trucks at hospitals in Texas and Florida.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
5 years ago

Were there more Trumpees at the rally than non-Trumpees in various protests in OK? “Timing suggests” what?

BTW, here is the NYT’s OK per-capita REPORTED total cases, most of which are recent. But when did reported cases become apples-to-apples over either time and/or space?!?

Trump’s Tulsa rally is so clear here. 🙂 (As I write this, I don’t know whether the image will be included in this comment. I’ve been able to upload images before, no problem. But for this comment, I’m in the same boat as others have reported for both images and links. Frustration.)

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
5 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish

It really does not matter whether there more Trumpees or non Trumpees at the OK rally. They were all there because Trump wanted to hold a large rally as a time when social distancing and masks should have been the order of the day.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
5 years ago

I tried, but apparently failed, to point out there were more things going on in OK than Trump’s rally. Recent increases in reported OK C19 can be blamed on both protests and rally.

Unfortunately, recent increases in reported C19 can be blamed on many other things, too. That’s why I personally don’t pay any attention to either “reported C19” or “reported C19 deaths”. Too many confounding variables in both numbers. Even hospital/clinic use levels are hard to calibrate. They are affected too much by how aggressively people are using the health care system for normal reasons.

As to your remark that “they were all there because”: Non-Trumpsters were not forced to be there. But they were there and, if it’s true that such activities help C19 to do its thing, they are helpers and to blame, not anyone else.

tokidoki
tokidoki
5 years ago

Actually both Republicans and Democrats see eye to eye when it comes to this calamity. The later loves BIG healthcare i.e. healthcare for profit so this pandemic is really a perfect opportunity.

numike
numike
5 years ago

“Disease is the biggest money maker in our economy.”
― John H. Tobe

danis
danis
5 years ago

Mish, have you looked at the linked data in that article, or are you just taking the NYT’s word for it? I’d like to see how you reach that conclusion from the data.

I know you hate being accused of TDS and I do think some of your criticisms of Trump are valid, but others – like this – are clearly misleading.

Mish
Mish
5 years ago
Reply to  danis

Look for my post tomorrow
Happy to provide details nationally about reopenings

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
5 years ago

And how does this compare to major cities where Floyd protests were held, but not Trump rallies?

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
5 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

Not the point. The president is supposed to be more responsible than Floyd protesters. A large campaign rally was completely irresponsible.

Phantastic
Phantastic
5 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

NYC had massive protests yet their infectious rate has fallen since then. THanks for asking.

Jojo
Jojo
5 years ago

[Shrug] Of more economic and general interest re: Oklahoma:

JULY 9, 2020 7:10 AM
U.S. Supreme Court deems half of Oklahoma a Native American reservation
Lawrence Hurley

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday recognized about half of Oklahoma as Native American reservation land and overturned a tribe member’s rape conviction because the location where the crime was committed should have been considered outside the reach of state criminal law.

magoomba
magoomba
5 years ago

So everywhere the teflon Don goes DEATH follows eh?
Hope you do well in Utah Mish. Watch out for moomons and the prairie dogs in Nebreska.

rafterman
rafterman
5 years ago

Nice spin job Mish, your TDS is raging again. Read the data in your linked NY Times Oklahoma page and tell me how you arrived at your conclusion.

aprnext
aprnext
5 years ago
Reply to  rafterman

Heh, heh. If I find you at the poker table, I’m outta there!

Stimpson
Stimpson
5 years ago
Reply to  rafterman

Have you read the article? It’s not Mish spinning anything. The heath department drew that conclusion from the data. Which seems right, to answer your question.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  Stimpson

Since the Health Department, in the course of contact tracing, presumably talked to some of the infected people, no fair citing them, as they have inside information.

Zardoz
Zardoz
5 years ago

The old GOP guys are being cagey about showing up for the RNC in person. Wonder why?

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