Hooray! Senator Manchin Finally Kills Biden’s Build Back Better Initiative

De Facto Veto

I am pleased to report Manchin Crushes Biden’s Hopes for Revival of Economic Agenda

Manchin told Majority Leader Chuck Schumer he’s only willing to support legislation to lower prescription drug prices and extend enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies, the people said. That leaves Democrats in a position of accepting a much smaller package shorn of nearly all of their long-term ambitions from a year ago, or getting nothing.

His decision is a de facto veto of Biden’s hopes to revive the economic plan that fizzled last year, angering Democratic progressives who had been counting on sweeping policy wins. Manchin’s vote is pivotal in the evenly divided Senate, where Democrats need a united caucus to pass the economic package by simple majority under special budget reconciliation rules.

Just days ago, Manchin and Schumer were negotiating over hundreds of billions in spending on measures designed to fight climate change, including tax breaks for renewable energy, electric vehicles and other clean power sources. The loss of those plans will be a bitter pill for many Democrats on Capitol Hill and at the White House. Solar stocks fell in early US trading.

“I’m not going to sugarcoat my disappointment here,” Senate Finance Chairman Ron Wyden of Oregon, who previously talked with Manchin about a package of clean energy incentives, said in a statement. “This is our last chance to prevent the most catastrophic — and costly — effects of climate change.”

“Political headlines are of no value to the millions of Americans struggling to afford groceries and gas as inflation soars to 9.1%,” said Manchin spokeswoman Sam Runyon. “Senator Manchin believes it’s time for leaders to put political agendas aside, reevaluate and adjust to the economic realities the country faces to avoid taking steps that add fuel to the inflation fire.”

Green New Deal Advocates Incensed

Solar Stocks Take a Hit

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) Demands an Executive Order to Address Climate

Executive Beast Mode

With legislative climate options now closed, it’s now time for executive Beast Mode.

Sheldon Whitehouse is delusional. The Supreme Court would easily kill executive overreach. 

This court has already done so many times.

Climate Change Fearmongering and Scorched Earth

The Washington Post discusses Manchin’s Stunning Blow to Climate Change.

Senate Finance Chair Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), whose panel has jurisdiction over the clean energy tax credits in the package, lamented that “nearly all the issues in the climate and energy space had been resolved” after months of deliberations.

“This is our last chance to prevent the most catastrophic — and costly — effects of climate change,” Wyden said in a statement. “We can’t come back in another decade and forestall hundreds of billions — if not trillions — in economic damage and undo the inevitable human toll.”

Without the reconciliation bill, America is on track to miss President Biden’s target of cutting the nation’s emissions 50 to 52 percent by 2030, according to an analysis released Thursday by the Rhodium Group, an independent research firm.

Jamal Raad, who leads the climate advocacy group Evergreen Action, told The Climate 202 that the White House no longer has an excuse to consider approving new fossil fuel projects to help secure Manchin’s elusive vote.

He called on Biden to block fossil fuel infrastructure that would lock in emissions for decades to come, including ConocoPhillips’s Willow project on Alaska’s North Slope and new offshore oil and gas leasing in federal waters.

The White House needs to end the Willow project and all new leasing in the Gulf of Mexico and in Alaska,” Raad said. “They need to send a message that if [Manchin] isn’t going to play ball to invest in clean energy, what the White House is doing on fossil fuels is done.”

Democrats’ Message Already Understood

The oil and gas industry already understands the setup.

This administration has a goal of killing fossil fuels and with that US energy independence.

Killing fossil fuels would me massively inflationary and it’s a lie to say otherwise.

Senator Joe Biden on Killing the Deal

“What the Washington Post failed to say was I said, until we see the July inflation figures, until we see the July Federal Reserve interest rates, then let’s wait until that comes out until we know that we are going down the path that won’t be inflammatory, to add more to inflation.”

“Inflation is absolutely killing many, many people. They can’t buy gasoline, they have a hard time buying groceries. Everything they buy and consume for their daily lives is a hardship to them.” 

“And can’t we wait to be sure that we do nothing to add to that. And I can’t make that decision on taxes of any type, and also on the energy and climate because it takes the taxes to pay for the investment in the clean technology that I am in favor of. But I am not going to overreach and cause more problems.”

“My main goal is what’s good for my country. I’m not worried about what’s good for the Democrat or Republican parties. The bottom line is the American people are getting short-sided by the political timetables and the political gesturing that’s going on.”

The Bottom Line and Manchin Caught It 

“I was very clear, when the President and I talked. Mr. President, this piece of legislation is going to change our country from what John Kennedy said, ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.”

This piece of legislation will change us to how much more can my country do for me. And we are thirty and a half trillion dollars in debt and climbing.”

There’s no such thing as build back better again.”

Thank You Senator!

Thank you Senator Manchin for finally killing Build Back Better.

Let the Progressives howl. We do not need any more of their inflationary free money or Green New Deal nonsense.

Consumer Price Index Jumps Another 1.3 Percent, Much More Than Than Expected

For more on the CPI, please see Consumer Price Index Jumps Another 1.3 Percent, Much More Than Than Expected

And No Matter What’s in Your Food Basket, the Price Keeps Rising Fast

Finally, A Big Housing Bust is the Key to Understanding This Recession

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wmjack50
wmjack50
3 years ago
Climate Change is a natural occurrence. Prideful humans want to think they are involved but they are not. God runs the weather.
All you libs will have to accept the lost of your beach houses to the ocean. Your fraud and control skims to make money from climate change are done.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
This idiot Manchin just doesn’t understand that spending money you don’t have is no problem. The US has been doing it for decades. And don’t give me any cr@p about the interest on the debt and debt repayments. Just print more money. There’s nothing to it. Keep the people happy with bread and circuses. And it the price of bread goes too high let them eat cake.
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
3 years ago
El Nino and La Nina controls weather more than some carbon emissions….and right now the La Nina is one of top 5 in recorded history for length, some say one more year, I think its kinda of backing off now…
whirlaway
whirlaway
3 years ago
Remember the pledge that Biden made to his donors that “nothing will fundamentally change”? Well, the DONORcrat Party has delivered on it now.

Manchin did exactly what the DONORcrat Party wanted him to do – play his role as the “rotating villain” this time.

Ref:
“The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it. One minute, it’s Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity; the next minute, it’s Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and “breaking with their party” to ensure Michael Mukasey’s confirmation as Attorney General; then it’s Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion; then it’s Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists; and now that they can’t blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they don’t need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.”
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Dang, it’s so unfair! LOL
whirlaway
whirlaway
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Unfair or otherwise, my point is that the DONORcrat Party is a right-wing party masquerading as a left-wing party, just to get the votes.
The bastards are not even liberal, let alone left-wing. Even on social issues, the party establishment just plants a victory flag after activists win their battles.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
You seem to think that’s somehow a bad thing.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
…and if elected I vow to not masquerade for votes!
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Infrastructure? I don’t need no steenking infrastructure! I got a lifted f150 for the bad roads, and when I get an electric one I won’t care about the blackouts. I am an island, baybee! Bring on the dystopian hellscape! I wanna go mutant hunting!
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I’m well-equipped for the mutant hunt. The dystopian landscape is your creation, not ours.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Always the victim…
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Not me. That would be your crowd.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Ah the classic “I know you are but what am I”. I am positively destroyed.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
You are a Californian. You’re for every criminal and junkie as long as they’re not white. LOL
Roadrunner12
Roadrunner12
3 years ago
Ive always been skeptical of the climate change agenda promoted by WEF on western countries. Nonetheless I have no doubt in my mind that we have to move forward in the realization that oil production has peaked worldwide and will decline going forward. I got into the peak oil mindset by a book by Paul Roberts, “The End of Oil”
Hubbert predicted in the 50s that US conventional oil would peak in the 70s and he was correct. US production was then on a steady decline until roughly 2010 with the introduction of new technology, shale or tight oil. I believe that this has peaked and this is now reached its pinnacle. It will become glaringly evident within the next 5 years that US production is on a downward trend.
There appears to be no logical thought on how to move forward other than WEF restricting energy production in their own countries which is baffling. As to EV cars, the infrastructure currently is having difficulties having with the system as is never mind hundreds of millions of new EV vehicles and as well, do you want a coal, natural gas or uranium powered EV?
Also as with lower oil production with eventually drive the economies of the world lower. I believe there will be years of negative growth ahead.
A recent article by Ourfiniteworld and the Peak Prosperity guy outlining peak oil thoughts.
Our Finite World | Exploring how oil limits affect the economy
Explains Why Economic Collapse is Inevitable – YouTube
effendi
effendi
3 years ago
Reply to  Roadrunner12
Doesn’t have to be coal, gas or uranium to power EVs. What about thorium? The knowledge is there but just needs the commitment.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Roadrunner12
This peak oil theory is the biggest “HOAX” story pushed..
Oil has been detected on other planets in our solar system..
So that blows the “HOAX” that it comes from decomposing dinosaur!!!
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
Roadrunner has it correct
Hulbert was off only because fracking and technology allowed us to get more of what we couldn’t previously. Gasoline mileage more than doubled as well. But we hit the end of the line
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Correct. That’s because population and demand have essentially doubled since 1970 there is no end in sight to population (and thus demand) increase.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Roadrunner12
Also, oil wells that have been declared empty, when checked years later are filled back up!!!
Plenty of story’s from around the world of this happening, if it hasn’t been purged by the FAKE NEWS!!!
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
So what if oil wells refill with oil over time. That’s to be expected as every well doesn’t capture 100% of the oil in the surrounding area.
What really matters is whether new oil is being created faster than it’s being used up. The answer to that is a resounding no or else all the giant oil fields wouldn’t be running dry and we wouldn’t need to be drilling for new oil.
Think of the worlds oil as a giant bathtub with the drain at the bottom being the oil we are using and the tap at the top being new oil being created by the earth. Even though more water (oil) is coming into the tub (earth) it’s going out at a faster rate so the tub (earth) is draining.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
I thougt killing Bild Back Better (another extravaganza spending) was a no brainer after the infaltion read, but what do I know about politics?
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
3 years ago
Clean energy advocates will need to spend THEIR OWN MONEY to live their lifestyle.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
3 years ago
….Just wondering, WHY does the US of A send 40 or is it 100 by now, billions of dollars, to a utterly corrupt Nazi infested hell hole, called Ukraine ?? 8000 kms away from your fn american dream region ??
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Ukraine doesn’t want the Russian dream. Russia invades Ukraine to impose the Russian dream. We kinda like Ukraine and don’t like the Russian dream so we help Ukraine to keep its Ukraine dream. It’s simple.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
They all want to escape their own corrupt regime to the EU to do menial jobs and fill the brothels. Glorious dream.
Unless you speak of their oligarch’s dream.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
The Ukraine dream is closer to the Western dream than to the Russian dream which is why you find many Ukrainians moving to the West and virtually none to Russia. That should tell you something. I rest my case.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
BBC would disagree with you. Estimates 1.4 million already gone to Russia.
I suspect the numbers are split virtually 100% across ethnic lines with Ukrainian Ukrainians going west and Russian Ukrainians going east. That’s the crux of the whole matter in a nutshell. The Crimea and Eastern Ukraine is essentially ethnic Russians who are a majority in their area but a minority in their country. This sort of ethnic distribution never ends well (see Yugoslavia, most of the Middle East like Iraq, Syria etc). Eventually those minorities want to form their own countries or join another country of similar people (see Crimea).
In the end, Ukraine is going to be split along ethnic lines as it should have been with the USSR broke up. It just took longer here than it did in Yugoslavia.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

The BBC took that figure from a UN document which if you
read it says that the Figures of Ukrainian refugees in Russia are incomplete
compared to other countries listed because Russia transmitted to them only the
figure of Ukrainians entering Russia and not the corresponding figures of
Ukrainians returning across the border. The Russians record only the positive figures
and not the net figures as all the other countries do. Obviously if you don’t
net it out it gives you the impression that lots are going to Russia which is
what Russia wants everyone to believe.

Here is the UN study that the BBC used: https://data.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine

Check out the table there and pay attention to the the asterisks and the “non available”.

SmokeyIX also gave me a youtube interview of pro-Russian refugees
as proof and let me also use anecdotal evidence that is personal. A very good
friend has a son that over twenty years ago was working Donbass and came back with a
Ukrainian bride (the same age as he and they are still married). Her younger
sister and her kids stayed in Donbass and the war rolled over them. They were evacuated to Russia because the Russians controlled the area. Once there her sister got money to her to be able to take a plane to
Ankara and then to France where she and her kids are living with her sister in France. In official records they would have been registered as having crossed
the border into Russia and that figure would have been sent to the UN but not
the figure of her leaving Russia. She and her sister are Russian-speaking but
hate what Russia is doing.

effendi
effendi
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
There are millions of Ukrainians in Russia and they were there before February. Another 1.3 million have since left Ukraine to seek refuge in Russia.
Many Ukrainians want to go to the EU over Russia because of the possibility to make more money than Russia offers. But many prefer Russia as it still pays much better than the Ukraine and they are welcome there (even get a Russian passport) with people of a similar culture and language.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  effendi
Of course there are many in Russia. They share a border and similar culture and language so it was easy to go to or stay in Russia. Many more however preferred moving to the West after Putin’s first try in 2014. Russia became less attractive and now even less so. The 1.3 million who left for Russia this year is deceptive because Russia reports only on Ukrainians crossing into Russia and not on Ukrainians leaving Russia. If you count only one side and not the net then it gives you a false impression. If you did the same thing with the French- German boarder you would conclude that millions of French are leaving France for Germany. This is the UN’s report on the refugees. In it is says that Russia counts only one side. https://data.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Sure, if you prefere to be deluded, go ahead , yet someone should tell them that the american or even the european unsustainable social wellfare, debt supported dream is merely an illusion by now…. maybe there is more future in Russia …. I for one do trust their admirable leader 100 times more than the fn utterly clueless idiots we got here…..SLAVA ROSSYA ! Mind you, I am a fn belgian !
SmokeyIX
SmokeyIX
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
American Christians keep saying the people of Lugansk and Donetsk want to live the Ukrainian dream, but the locals there say otherwise. https://youtu.be/eim2BIliwmA?t=1154
And what exactly is the Ukrainian dream? Despite having some of the best natural resources in Europe and a very well-educated population, much better educated than Americans, Ukraine is Europe’s poorest country. Millions of women in the former Soviet Union became hookers and mail order brides when the USSR fell, but the Russian economy improved enough to where you haven’t seen a lot of that in Russia for the past 15 years or so. But when you go to Istanbul or to China, the bars are chock full of Ukrainian hookers. Some of them have approached me to peddle their product and they’ve been very, very articulate English speakers. When I tell them they’re better educated than I am, that they could do so much better than being hookers, they tell me that’s the only opportunity in life they have. Having sex with thousands of Turkish blue collar workers, Arab businessmen, American church missionaries, Chinese businessmen, and anyone else with $20 in their pocket is the “Ukrainian dream” that American Christians want to impose on Ukrainian women, when they’ve been “living the dream” like that for three decades now and have continued to do so under Zelensky. Pull up “Dream Connections” on YouTube. Young Ukrainian women marrying old foreign fat guys because all of the nation’s wealth is hoarded by a very small elite.
What goes around comes around. You want Ukrainian women to be cheap whores because of a lack of opportunity. After the US government finishes running the economy into the ground, American church girls are going to be “working” on their backs just like the Ukrainian church girls, doing all sorts of nasty things with nasty dudes before they read their New Testament and go to bed between customers. The Ukrainian dream is going to become the American dream as the economy unravels.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  SmokeyIX
Wow! What a rant. Feel better now?
Dutchguy
Dutchguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Normally i don’t react on discussions but your comments are so off the record, but now i have to react against. Your comments pissed me off greatly. Let me give you an advice; before you post such texts, consider that everyone on this planet has its own background, culture, upbringing and history. Therefore the same set of facts, leads to totally different reactions and other effects, you are clearly not aware off. The so called facts you presented are from hearsay and the unhcr, which is an organisation plagued with corruption, stunning political bias and of a low level of truth. All your anecdotes of people from Ukraine and Donbass, i can counter with similar anecdotes but with totally contrasting opinions, facts and outcomes. There is no one truth anymore; in each society you will find people who disagree, even in Ukraine against Zelensky and even in Donbass against the Russians; that in itself is no evidence which is right o wrong. One thing is sure; everyone only want to hear what they like and then claim for themselves what is the truth. No-one is researching the otherside anymore; you clearly don’t like russians, but based upon your personal beliefs of your upbringing. There is no such thing as russian dream; you are very delusional and this clearly shows your bias. Personal i have no problem with what you believe, but i have surely a problem when you try to force your bias on others, with remarks that shows lack of historical understanding and lack of knowledge of the local culture and are mostly fact-free. To say it in other words; your comments will gain on credibility if you have been in Ukraine and lived there among the people of BOTH sides op the conflict. You comments now, show clearly your lack of understanding. You are possibly victim of propaganda and bad (yellow) journalism; nowadays only the westernminded opinion is published, no media research what the motives and arguments of the so called enemy is; your comments show cleary what you think, the enemy is thinking, you have not researched what the Russians themselve really think about it, besides some hearsay. Is it not wise to hear the opinion from both sides and then make your decision, instead of basing it on your thoughts you think they think? You wil discover that the genocide since 2014 and the non compliance of the Misk accord, and also to mention, the betrayal of Nato of the accords of 1990 (no eastward expansion of Nato) is crucial; why do you think that the USA has the right to reject missiles in Cuba in 1962, but Russia has not the right to reject missiles in Ukraine in 2022? Was the calling of Kamala Harris and Zelensky on february the 22th that Ukraine would get nuclear weapons again the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back for the Russians? Think twice before you post, kind regards from the Netherlands
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Dutchguy
you have your opinion and I have mine. Based on what I know and see I chose a side. You do not know me or have any idea I did where I have lived, done or seen. I find the Russian narrative just bull they spew to justify what they are doing. Perhaps you have noticed that fewer and fewer people swallow Russia’s reasoning for invading Ukraine because it doesn’t pass scrutiny. You on the other hand support them either actively and passively for whatever reasons you have. Some things are important enough that you have to decide whether it is right or wrong. I cannot remain neutral in this so I made a decision. You made another. So be it.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
MILITARY industrial complex gets the dough. not the ukes.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
How many Solar companies went bust, money laundering, during the Obama term???
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
“I’m not going to sugarcoat my disappointment here,” Senate Finance
Chairman Ron Wyden of Oregon, who previously talked with Manchin about a
package of clean energy incentives, said in a statement. “This is our
last chance to prevent the most catastrophic — and costly — effects of
climate change.”
Please tell me this means you and the rest of the greens have thrown in the towel on climate change taxes and green deals. If that was the last chance then nothing we do matters so there is no reason to spend trillions on climate change 🙂
Senator Manchin probably has a legit shot a being president if he runs in 2024 regardless of which party he runs for because he’s clearly a moderate.
Nuddernoitall
Nuddernoitall
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Follow up statement by Biden (written no doubt by an ideologue staffer) “Action on climate change and clean energy remains more urgent than ever. So let me be clear: if the Senate will not move to tackle the climate crisis and strengthen our domestic clean energy industry, I will take strong executive action to meet this moment. My actions will create jobs, improve our energy security, bolster domestic manufacturing and supply chains, protect us from oil and gas price hikes in the future, and address climate change. I will not back down: the opportunity to create jobs and build a clean energy future is too important to relent.”
Fish1
Fish1
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Are you enjoying your weather in Texas this summer? It will be worse next year and the year after.
In California it is the same. In many places not really habitable w/o AC. This isn’t “normal”. What do we do about this, what do we owe succeeding generations?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  Fish1
I actually live in Florida now. Weather here is same as it ever is thanks to moderation by the Atlantic Ocean. Florida climate won’t be affected.
I was back to Texas for a visit in June. I noticed how dry the heat was after the brutal Florida humidity I am used to. I was actually able to be outside in Texas just fine because the dry heat didn’t bother me in the least.
Incidentally, the whole US south was very sparsely populated until AC became available in the early 20th century. AC/Refrigeration is clearly one of the top 2 or 3 most important inventions of the 20th century because it allowed for exploding populations in hot areas. So saying we need AC to survive in the south isn’t saying anything we already have known for 100 years and has nothing to do with climate change.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Fish1
“What do we do about this, what do we owe succeeding generations?”
A return to the Dark Ages?
Tucker had a story on the other night, in which he talked about the countries with the highest ESG scores, having the worst economies.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Fish1
California has a drought-drench climate, and its temperatures have not risen. But you are a “progressive” in thrall to a religious cult, so you will make it up.
Fish1
Fish1
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
A lot of Nobel caliber scientists on these baoards so I defer.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Fish1
You’re a blind cult follower. You’d have been great in the Middle Ages.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Fish1
And there are Nobel caliber scientists that disagree with your “NOBEL CALIBER SCIENTISTS”!!!!
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Fish1
It’ s called a cycle’s which is a SCIENTIFIC proven fact…
The earth has been even hotter in the past..
Temperatures didn’t start when the thermometer was invented!!!
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
Please! Don’t post after ingesting intoxicants. Thanks!

p.s.: Now before you get all insulted, let me say: Better to be thought drunk than insane, because the former will pass.

Naphtali
Naphtali
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
As an Oregonian I feel compelled to apologize for the twits that we have sent to the senate. I do hope that we shall do better in the future.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  Naphtali
Nuddernoitall
Nuddernoitall
3 years ago
Manchin quotes JFK in his comments. Ironically, Manchin is the current version of “Profiles in Courage.”
Pontius
Pontius
3 years ago
Reply to  Nuddernoitall
This piece of legislation will change us to how much more can my country do for me. And we are thirty and a half trillion dollars in debt and climbing.”
Theme of the a Democratic Party now, everyone has their “rights” and “entitlements” but no one has any obligations or accountability.
The window of time to print money (transfer of manufacturing to China, great technological advances, and cheap energy) to fund social programs (creating disincentive to work for most Americans) is over; natural governors of inflation/soon bond vigilantes return.
Unless reversed by crisis or strong leadership, our experiment in democracy is doomed.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
At the end of the day there is nothing that will save us from a collapse. We are in a Global Debt Ponzi and no Ponzi ever plateaued or landed softly. People will lose confidence in the fake paper currency, and that is all that gives the fake money any purchasing power. The herd simply has to give up on the fact that unbacked paper currency has any real value and then the con game will be over within a couple of months.
Irondoor
Irondoor
3 years ago
I’m choking on the fresh air out here in Montana. Thank you, God, for Senator Manchin. Please protect him.

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