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Illinois and New York Join California With Statewide “Stay Home” Orders

Stay Home: Illinois, California, New York, Connecticut

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Guinny_Ire
Guinny_Ire
6 years ago

Who would have thought it would take a pandemic to slow down the emigration of people fleeing Illinois to other states?

Ebowalker
Ebowalker
6 years ago

Also this is a wet dream for all the nanny state dems and repubs. The precedent we have granted here is an effective end to our remaining freedom.

Quatloo
Quatloo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ebowalker

I am very worried that you are right. Those in power usually agree with Rahm Emmanuel’s maxim to never let a crisis go to waste. This is an opportunity to increase the power of government over all of our lives, and (much like after 9/11) we are going down that road again quickly. I shudder to think what Mike Bloomberg would do as President in this situation. Follow DeBlasio’s recommendation that we deploy the army to “mobilize” (meaning take by force without compensation) medical supplies from around the country and bring them to NYC? Put the entire country under house arrest? Seize supplies from anyone who thought ahead and prepared for a crisis (or as he would call them, hoarders)?

Ebowalker
Ebowalker
6 years ago

What we did is this: our house had termites and we decided it was best to burn down the whole block

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
6 years ago

Politicians are so extroverted they will break their own rules about social disatancing and “face a term limit”.

tokidoki
tokidoki
6 years ago

Some hospitals in NY are in the beginning stages of getting overrun. Can’t post links here, but I am sure any of the NY papers will have some info.

Please stay home.

Rbm
Rbm
6 years ago

Well i was pondering today. What would be more destructive to the economy. Shutting down like we are now or the chaos of a million dead and everyone panicking and sick.

Quatloo
Quatloo
6 years ago
Reply to  Rbm

I think you are overreacting. There are less than 12,000 dead worldwide from COVID right now. This virus propagated in China for months before any action was taken to stop it and the number of Chinese dead from the virus is somewhere in the vicinity of 5,000, in a country of 1.5 billion people. All of these numbers are easily verifiable. The economic costs of shutting down America we know will be staggering, the harms this virus will cause are unknown. We are losing perspective. Are we really willing to destroy our economy merely to ‘flatten the curve’, i.e., spread out the dying from this virus over time?

ohno
ohno
6 years ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Not entirely true, we all know we were in one huge bubble waiting to blow. We just hit fast forward. Let it go. No sense dragging out for years and having to listen to daily lies as it slowly sinks there’s no hiding it now.

Schaap60
Schaap60
6 years ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Can you explain how the case numbers and deaths reported by China are easily verifiable and believable? Without independent confirmation, I’m more likely to believe what is happening in Italy and Spain.

Quatloo
Quatloo
6 years ago
Reply to  Schaap60

I just meant that the official numbers of deaths are there for viewing; you raise a good point that they may not be accurate. My point was that the projections of what the death tolls will look like in the future are wildly speculative, and (like revenue from tax increases) do not include change in behavior resulting from the increase.

Jojo
Jojo
6 years ago
Reply to  Rbm

Where did you dredge the million number up from? Your imagination is running wild. Reign it in.

Stuki
Stuki
6 years ago
Reply to  Rbm

Properly shutting down, isn’t all that destructive to the economy.

Sure, production drops, but so does consumption once noone leaves the house. Leaving net “destruction” limited.

In a poor society, where almost all consumption is base necessities, a drop in production forcing a corresponding drop in consumption is a big problem.

In a rich one, it’s just temporary reprioritizing a bit, as a result of unforeseen changes to the external environment.

Unless you catch the virus in a bad way, of course.

billybobjr
billybobjr
6 years ago

These three states plus the federal government are totally bankrupt. Math does not lie and this crisis should do wonders for the already bankrupt pension funds in these places . Hopefully the the politicians in these states voted for by the people will raise taxes sharply to recover the record shortfall caused by the crisis . My prediction is they will seek a federal bailout and blame Trump for all their problems .

Quatloo
Quatloo
6 years ago

The Baby Boomer generation is being characteristically selfish. Members of that generation partied hard, sampled every drug imaginable, repeatedly had sex with people they just met and knew nothing about, and ran the national debt to unimaginable levels. Yet now they blame the younger generations for the spread of the Coronavirus, saying they are ‘irresponsible’ and ‘self-absorbed’. How ridiculous.

If Boomers want to avoid Coronavirus, THEY need to self-quarantine, not expect those under 50 to give up their enjoyment of life so that the old can continue to take advantage of them. The Boomers need to hide away in THEIR homes, allowing the rest of the country to live and work as they please.

DaveH2
DaveH2
6 years ago
Reply to  Quatloo

OK genius.

You have the odds of a geezer dying of normal flu in this situation. If you survive, you may live with geezer lung incapacity like emphysema.

Never mind the deaths of middle-aged pros who you need for modern civilization.

Do you feel lucky, punk?

OK, genius.

DaveH2
DaveH2
6 years ago
Reply to  DaveH2

That said, we have been keeping corpses alive for the last months of their “lives” at extraordinary expense for decades. It needs to stop. I have always been against unlimited medical for the elderly. Medicare is out of control far more than any other expense. But the military and other crony-capitalist ventures need to be promptly decimated too.

DaveH2
DaveH2
6 years ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Whoops! Forgot to mention. If there are geezers occupying hospital beds, and you need one (maybe after bar-hopping and driving drunk), you won’t get one. Of course, it looks like intubation of people on ventilators is a fools errand (see Italy where they almost all die eventually). But that is reality. How about antibiotics? China is a wreck. We need them for drugs but they are in the eye of hell but lying about it. Don’t expect “normality” for a long time.

Snarla Hazard
Snarla Hazard
6 years ago
Reply to  Quatloo

you’re a moron and will get washed with the rest. Good riddance “dude”.

hmk
hmk
6 years ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Please go and party with the rest of the morons in FL. Time to thin the herd of morons like you

billybobjr
billybobjr
6 years ago

Hopefully they keep this in place in these three states for a couple of decades . The people in these states have screwed them up so bad last thing we need is them moving to other states and infecting them with the same desease .

Quatloo
Quatloo
6 years ago

There is an economic cost to shutting down business in a State, and it is huge. Is temporarily protecting people from a virus with a death rate in single digits worth destroying the economy? In leftist states the answer is clearly yes.

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