Trump Ponders Backing a Civil War, Rate Cut Odds Drop, More.
Iran War Live Update
Let’s tune into Iran War Live Updates from the Wall Street Journal.
- Israel said it struck Hezbollah command centers and weapons storage facilities in Beirut. It also said it struck a key Iranian leadership compound in Tehran.
- Six U.S. troops have been killed so far, with Trump warning more casualties are likely. Over 700 people have died in the U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran, the Red Crescent said.
- Trump is open to supporting groups in Iran willing to take up arms to dislodge the regime, U.S. officials said.
- Rubio said Iran was an imminent threat because the administration was concerned that Israel’s planned military action would result in an attack on U.S. forces.
- Oil prices pushed higher and stocks fell sharply, with the Dow shedding more than 1,000 points and the S&P down more than 2%, as signs of a widening conflict rattled investors.
- Bets on Rate Cuts Fall as Inflation Expectations Rise
Excuse me for asking but please define “supporting groups in Iran willing to take up arms to dislodge the regime“.
I will cover rate cut odds in a second post.
Israel Strikes Tehran, Beirut in Widening Conflict With Iran
Israel began the fourth day of the Middle East conflict by launching a wave of strikes on Iran and stationing troops in southern Lebanon, while Iran continued to fire at Israel and other targets in Gulf states.
Saudi Arabia blamed Iran for a drone attack on the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh and warned such actions would lead to further escalation.
President Trump said the U.S. has a “virtually unlimited supply” of most weapons, while acknowledging that the U.S. is “not where we want to be” on the highest-end weapons. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that the “hardest hits are yet to come from the U.S. military.”
Second Strike Hits Saudi Embassy
The U.S. Embassy in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, came under attack twice on Tuesday, causing part of the roof to collapse, according to people familiar with the matter. After the second strike, the chancery remained contaminated with smoke, one of the people said. Staff continue to shelter in place.
Earlier, the State Department said drones had struck the building. “Embassy Riyadh has been struck by two UAVs that hit the roof and the perimeter of the chancery,” the department said in a cable viewed by The Wall Street Journal, referring to unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones. “Post is sheltering in place and reported no injuries,” the department added. Initial reports indicated there were no casualties, according to a person familiar with the incident.
Stocks, Bonds Face New Pressure as Attacks Widen
Markets took big hits Tuesday as the Middle East conflict showed signs of escalating. Stocks sold off, with the Dow industrials dropping more than 1,000 points. The index is on track for its biggest one-day decline since April 2025, when markets were convulsing after President Trump imposed broad tariffs on U.S. imports.
Oil prices, meanwhile, continued to push higher, with futures for Brent crude, the global oil benchmark, briefly topping $85 a barrel for the first time since mid-2024. European natural-gas prices soared nearly 40% at one point, before paring back some gains. Fears regarding access to the critical Strait of Hormuz mounted after an Iranian commander threatened to set fire to ships that tried to pass.
Risk Firm Sees Differences Between U.S.-Israel Approach in Iran
The U.S. and Israel have joined in the military campaign against Iran but analysts see some daylight between their objectives.
Both nations want to eliminate Iran’s nuclear program but the U.S. appears to be showing more willingness to negotiate, according to a new analysis by Oxford Analytica. “The United States and Israel share common military goals, although they may begin to disagree about how best to pursue them,” said the research group which, like The Wall Street Journal, is owned by the News Corp unit Dow Jones.
US willingness to negotiate? Seriously? WTF?
Trump put in a set of demands no nation could accept. Why are we letting Israel set our policy?
Over 3,000 Vessels Waiting to Get Through Strait of Hormuz
More than 3,000 vessels are stuck in Persian Gulf ports waiting to move across the Strait of Hormuz, according to maritime data provider Clarksons Research. Some 4% of global ship tonnage is idle in the Persian Gulf, the firm’s managing director Stephen Gordon said in a note to clients.
- 241 bulk carriers
- 195 product tankers
- 114 container ships
- 112 crude tankers
- 6 cruise ships
One fifth of global oil supply moves through the neck of the Gulf, known as the Strait of Hormuz. Some 500 empty vessels are waiting at ports outside the waterway that have been snarled by the current conflict and attacks on vessels moving through it. A lack of tanker supply is pushing daily spot rates for very large crude carriers to a record high of $360,000, up from $200,000 at the end of next week, adding pressure to rising oil prices, Gordon said.
What the Iran Strikes Could Mean for U.S. Inflation
Americans weary of high prices have recently been able to count on cheap gasoline as a welcome offset for sticker shock at the grocery store and beyond. The Iran conflict threatens to throw that off course.
Oil prices surged after the U.S. and Israel launched attacks against Iran, along with diesel and gasoline futures. The conflict, depending on how it progresses, could lead to higher prices at the gas pump and higher overall inflation.
Did anybody in the Trump administration think about this before?
If they did, Trump ignored it.
And what about the cost? Boots on the Ground?
“But we’re not dumb about it. You don’t have to roll 200,000 people in there and stay for 20 years,” said Hegseth.
Lovely.
Trump Open to Supporting Armed Militias in Iran, U.S. Officials Say
President Trump is open to supporting groups in Iran willing to take up arms to dislodge the regime, U.S. officials said, an idea that could turn Iranian factions into ground forces at least rhetorically backed by Washington.
Trump spoke Sunday with Kurdish leaders, officials said, and is continuing to engage other local leaders who might leverage Tehran’s weakness to make gains. The Kurds have a sizable force along the Iraq-Iran border, and Israel has bombed positions in western Iran, leading to speculation that it is paving a path for a Kurdish advance.
In announcing the start of U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran, Trump urged the Iranian people to rise up and “take over your government,” adding “America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force.” But by offering at least conditional support to armed resistance groups, each with varying goals, Trump is going further than just calling for a popular uprising.
Ground Forces Backed By Trump
Hey, let’s start a civil war and see how it turns out.
Did You Vote for This?
If you voted for Trump, you did.
I wrote in Mish.
Please note Hegseth Says the Goal in Iran Isn’t Nation Building, It’s a Peaceful Deal
Please note Hegseth Doesn’t Rule Out U.S. Troops on the Ground.
So, we don’t rule out troops on the ground, and we are considering sponsoring a civil war.
But this is not nation building. I need to make some notes.
Given the US fascination with supporting Israel and committing so many resources to Israeli interests. If I were China, I’d be thinking about annexing Tiawan. Maybe North Korea would like to reunite Korea and maybe Putin likes a Baltic state or two. Beware, ww3 maybe in the works here.
I have to take exception to that arrogant smug attitude of if you voted for Trump you voted for this. Some people knew or suspected he was beholden to Israel, but he campaigned against things like this. So you may be gullible, or naive, but you didn’t necessarily “vote for this”. (I voted, but not for a Democrat or Republican.).
So be gullible and naive then, whatever either way it’s hardly commendable.
And I don’t feel smug, I feel angry. Gullible and naive Americans let us down, bigly.
You get no slack. Stupid SHOULD hurt.
John, you are BOTH Gullible and NAIVE and here is why: VOTERS are DEFINITELY GULLIBLE and NAIVE if the THINK that voting matters. COME ONE WAKE THE HELL UP…
WAKE THE HELL UP. If you ACTUALLY believe that voting matters and that they MEAN what they say, then YOU are the fool as well.
While I respect the sense of futility expressed, I disagree with the conclusion. If you have something/anything better, short of donning camo and somehow removing the politicians who lie, don’t care, exploit the opportunity (i.e., all of them), I’d love to hear it. And even if you were successful, what would you replace them with? Putting it all in the “too hard” basket doesn’t help.
There are only two real objectives: (1) Kill off as many of the Mullahs and the IRGC as we can while pacifying the regular army and the civilian population who doesn’t work for the regime. The economy is dead meat, inflation is skyrocketing and the currency isn’t worth the money its printed on.(2) Bomb the shit out of all their bomb and missile manufacturing facilities that we can find in a few weeks and call it done.
If the people can get up the nerve to go on the offensive (need guns) and take over, maybe there can be a new government that can be trusted. If not, we go back as often as necessary to bomb the shit out of them again if they are trying to rebuild any offensive capability. Other than that, there is no real objective.
Alexander the Great conquered Persia (now Iran). Perhaps we should now refer to Trump as “Trump the Great” after he and Netanyahu have conquered modern day Persia?
Sure… when that actually happens.
A rambling speech in front of a “Mission Accomplished” banner does not indicate that has happened.
It took AtG 10 years to conquer Persia. Are you willing to give Trump at least a few more months?
Sure. Only thing is after “a few more months” USIS will haven blown themselves up financially, at the current daily going rate anyway.
h/t to robbyrob
https://iran-cost-ticker.com
[LOL] Too funny! $2 trillion plus in a few weeks? Get serious if you want to be believed.
Sure… and when it inevitably fails, you will be on to lying about something else by then.
A lot smarter presidents have tried this and failed.
If I had the power to end him I wouldn’t give trump 5 minutes. Unfortunately I don’t now or will never have that power.
You are inferring that these Actions by Trump are a “conquering” quest. THINK NOW..
THINK!
That is Trump’s “Modus Operanadi.”
Example: He holds up a Severed Head by the hair and then exclaims: “Best Head Ever!”
Or, he says: EVERYTHING IS PERFECT while the entire Country is in a shambles.
He exclaims PERFECTION while delivering numb-skull results. IT IS HIS “SHTICK.”
“SWIFT” 10-year struggle? WTF?
Trump is going down with a lot of MAGA. I voted for this idiot three times! I thought he’d focus on the economy, infrastructure, debt and the myriad of problems our country has. He is finished. I will either not vote in November or vote Democrat as a protest. I hope the Republicans burn this November so that they remember who they answer to. Not the Orange Moron, but the people that got them in office.
I never voted for him, and I’m a life-long Republican. But I will vote for Democrats until every cowardly POS Republican who currently sits in Congress is out on their fat ignorant asses.
If a final victory at Armageddon requires the purification rite of nuclear weapons, so be it, ye of little faith.
Our New Jesus in the flesh — aka Trump — speaks in parables: “Yea, I said we’d obliterate this evil from the earth. So, whatever it takes to win, I say do it!”
And the people discussed this parable and asked, “what does it mean? Are we to take this literally?”
And Elizabeth Warren, who just gave the New Jesus a standing ovation for what this Jesus said in his State of the Union Sermon, opined: “I think he said, ‘Blessed are the Cheesemakers!’”
We know this much about the new Faith: Refusal to use nukes may mean losing, and losing is for losers.
Do not worry about the morrow. Does the daisy worry? For God the Father will protect you. Go forth and use nukes first just in case the foe tricked us and had a nuke to use against us, for we are the chosen ones, the exceptional nation. So, what if we are reduced to a small remnant (240,000 to be exact), according to the prophets. Yea, for then Goodness and Virtue will have won and we will have purged the earth of evil.
Keep the faith!
God wants you to burn in radioactive fire.
Au Contraire! God wants tens of millions of Iranian children to burn to death in a fiery cauldron rained down upon them by the good and just: the Americans!
At the time, I was hopeful that Trump would be less likely to start a new war than Kamala. Writing in Mish had no impact on the election. We were down to two options and trying to pick the least bad.
Harris would have done nothing and Iran would have been able to build their nukes.
So Harris would have done what trump promised to do? As bad as she is, she was the least damaging option. KWags is right that writing in a third candidate means that a choice was made not to opt for the least bad option. And therefore does not mean such votes are not also partially liable for trump.
Blah, blah, blah, bla. Doesn’t matter. Trump won.
“Never look back unless you are planning to go that way.”
– Henry David Thoreau
She just would have reinstated the treaty Obama created with Iran which stopped them from building nukes. But, like Obama, she was black!
Which didn’t stop them from enriching uranium and working towards making nukes. Stop deluding yourself.
It 100% stopped them from enriching Uranium to the degree necessary to build nukes. Stop being ignorant of reality.
The original PLAN
1) Bomb for a few days
2) New friendly regime
3) Accolades from all
4) More power and money for Trump
The new PLAN
???
Ask ChatGPT, that’s what they’re doing.
Trump admin is talking with the Kurds. Someone who speaks the local language has to step into the Iran leadership void.
Iranians speak Farsi. Kurds speak Kurdish.
Don’t confuse trumpers with facts. “Eh, they’re all the same!“
Well, there is some relationship. See:
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/do-kurds-speak-farsi-is-farsi-bqpGAu1bQ6aYTK8kCmFSHg
When all is said and done though, you point your rifle at someone and the language is universal.
How many times have the curds been bait and switched by the US?
They don’t believe a damn thing he says, and will cheat him for whatever they can get.
The original PLAN:
2. Do anything to continue Epstein coverup.
and so on
5) Armageddon and Jesus returns
And the winner is : – Russia and China
Russia just lost an ally and arms supplier. China could be a winner.
“Russia just lost an ally…”
Which is why Putin is offering his heartfelt condolences to the terrorist Ayatollah POC. I wonder how Russia might be affected by loss of drone shipments from Iran? I bet that Ukraine is cheering!
total clusterfuck. the admin is such a clown how it’s so embarrassing. Rubio tells the world we did it because Israel was going to attack anyway, then today Trump said no I dragged Israel into it.
no one knows why we did this or how long it’ll last. the nuke capability was destroyed 6 months ago but now they’re a week away from a nuke, and are close to ICBMs (none of which seems remotely true according to US intel). we eliminated the regime’s top people but supposedly it’s not regime change but we also want Iranians to rise up and change their government. we had people in mind we wanted to replace Khamanei but we killed them all.
I mean it literally could not be stupider or false, and the MAGA verse is eating it all up as if it’s all good.
at least our actual military is not a incompetent as this administration, but misusing it is never a good thing.
plus we are killing innocent people and driving millions from their homes. none of them have done anything to us and never would have.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…
Girls of Iran
Your liberation is at hand !
Just mind the bombs, because they’re falling “all over the place”.
Trump dedicated an entire screed about how great their stores of missiles and interceptors are, nothing close to running out like the Pentagon has been saying.
In fact, they have been lifting the veil on stockpiles with respect to getting out of the war with Russia for more than 2 years.
It’s a little like trying to sell your car:
It’s an older model, but it’s in perfect working order.
Don’t worry about the rear left wheel bearing.
It’s fine
Since the administration changes the rationale for going to war with Iran each day, it’s impossible to say how the war is going. But what’s already clear is that this is going to be an extremely costly war for the US tax payer.
But a boon for the safety of the world!
The last time Iran attacked another country was in the 1790s.
Contrast with the United States since that time.
You are correct although they have defended themselves when necessary. The war criminals in Israel and American leadership should be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity.
Yeah dumbo, they fund their terrorist sidekick armies like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis (why do these terrorist names all start with the letter H?) to do the dirty work. Iran has been a destabilizing force in the ME for 47 years. But understanding this might be above your paygrade as an Iran bot.
None of this is about any of the ostensible problems so there is nothing to talk about.
What’s more, America cannot be trusted whatsoever. Period. Wanton non-stop war crimes and perfidy, justified by theocratic Zionism.
The only real questions are two:
If the American / Israeli war on Iran doesn’t make a convincing argument for A.) nothing the US says in a negotiation is worth the spit it took to say it and B.) having your own nuclear weapons is clearly indicated. If anyone in Iran was holding back they should be either over it or dead by now.
Congrats to all who voted for this instead of the Neocon Black woman, the old guy who liked ice cream and caressing young girls and the old lady from Arkansas who has a lot of dead friends. Nothing I’ve seen makes me regret any of those votes.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning said at Tuesday’s regular press briefing in Beijing that all parties in the Iran conflict must ensure the safe transit of commercial shipping through the critical maritime energy chokepoint of the Strait of Hormuz.
“China urges all parties to immediately cease military operations, avoid escalating tensions, and safeguard the safety of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz,” spokeswoman Ning said.
We’ve briefed readers that China is heavily exposed to cheap Iranian crude exports. About 80% of Iran’s oil exports – about 1.6 million barrels per day – go to China.
On slowed arms flows, he said as quoted in WSJ:
“We understand that a long war–if it is long–and the intensity of the military actions will affect the amount of air defense we receive,” Zelensky told reporters on Monday, according to audio of his remarks published by Ukrainian media.
Zelensky said he spoke to German Chancellor Friedrich Merz about the issue of weapons supplies to Ukraine, and was in contact with other allies. So far, he added, there are no signs of any delays.
“Everyone understands that, for us, this is a matter of life,” Zelensky said of the arms Ukraine receives through the Prioritized Ukraine Requirements List, or PURL, a program European allies use to purchase weapons from the U.S. for Ukraine.
Let me make this straight here. Trump is a total narcissist who is running time of his life now.
He is absolutely enjoying this moment where whole world is paying attention to him.
If you ask why this war was started, answer is because it could
There is no long term plan, just reading the room and making whole world hostage. Is USA going to pay a price for it? who cares, definitely not Donald.
If gas will be 10$/gal it is fine too. Donald is not interested in such trivialities when he has whole world to run.
Vote straight blue is only option. Voting “Mish” or whatever else nonsense you put will just prolong it.
Voting for Biden or Harris was other madness. Nothing changes unless people stipo.
Only one of those two madnesses had a Gestapo though. Now we’re going to be a has been nation spending the next decade and then some hopefully rebuilding from this economic and cultural ruin.
Mish you are absolutely wrong. There were only two options that had any chance of winning a vote for anyone other than Harris was a vote for trump. You voted for trump by proxy. You want to change things get involved, start a new party, run on the libertarian ticket (worthless) or become involved with one of the two major parties. Otherwise you have no standing.
It is an illusion to think you have “standing” regardless of your voting. The Epstein class rules our corrupt oligarchy. Elections are just part of the myth that supports the oligarchy, like the Catholic Church of the Middle Ages supported feudalism.
Oh look, Trump says US taxpayer now on the hook for insuring ALL ships around the Hormuz. No money for US healthcare but plenty of money for foreign oil tankers.
https://x.com/CGTNEurope/status/2028918222532296806
I was jokingly thinking the U.S. would resort to being an insurer of last resort, and here we are.
What’s next? A trillion dollar “Golden Pipeline” to make Hormuz irrelevant? Why not? It’s only money.
What’s delaying the impeachment vote?
Cowards called republicans.
Decades of bad policy coming to roost. Apparently Israel backed into a corner (Epstein files and or Israeli action: :
.@SecRubio: “The president made the very wise decision—we knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties.”
Iran military very functional & independent of current leaders with standing orders from the martyr atop the dead school girls.
Many of the MSM pro Israel talking heads are almost giddy making nonsensical straw man arguments.
If POTUS forced against his wishes just needs to slow walk assistance to Israel as expensive & scarce anti missile defenses depleted through attrition. No reason Iran will not target those five desalinization plants, nuclear power & other critical infrastructure in Israel. Keeping Strait of Hormuz closed will pass on the financial pain globally.
What the mass majority of Iranians want is a return to the secular life they led before the Islamic sharia law that removed their freedom. Turkey is an example or go on YOutube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBrZL8t8n0
Did anyone believe this is the path?
Oh, Bullshit. Besides it’s none of our fucking business. Will killing their children give them more freedom?
When the death cult leading Iran puts a bomb in your A## you’ll change your mind
Are they going to be parachuting into AZ to get me?
You are just plain stupid. Or you are a racist. Or you are a freaking christian nut. Lots of possibilities all bad.
true, but let them do it. or not. it’s not our problem
MAGA wants to take away our secular nation and declare us a “Christian nation”.
All one has to do is look at Ukraine and Russia and see what we are in for. This is a proxy war between the US and China.
Try again, and this time include Israel in your analysis.
In David vs Goliath, David used a sling to defeat the giant.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2026/03/03/world/iran-missile-drones-patriots/
The U.S. will ultimately defeat itself with stupid leaders, stupid policies and stupid electorate that keeps voting for these morons.
This is a war by Israel, trump jumped in as he saw a way to defuse the attention to the Epstein coverup.
From Vietnam to Libya, Iraq and most recently Afghanistan, what is it that causes these morons to think “this time will be different?”
Afghanistan is the most recent case study: 20+ years, trillions of dollars and what do we have? The Taliban in control of Afghanistan.
Even if Iran miraculously becomes democratic for a year or two (and that’s a big stretch), the statistical probability here is that it will become a theocracy again in short order.
It’s more likely that the Ottoman empire rises again under a Muslim Caliphate than any western style democracy in this region so why bother?
Here we go again flushing trillions down the toilet, who knows how many American and other lives and then return to the status quo.
Iran is a multi-party democracy. It has weak parliamentary system with a strong executive, much like France. It has an independent judicial system much like the USA. The difference is the judicial system is far more powerful than in the US. To be a judge, you must be a cleric (Imam). It has the revolutionary council that vets anyone who wants to run for office or work for the government to insure they are a Shia Muslim in good standing. And they control the revolutionary guard that puts down any anti-Muslim, anti-Revolution activities. It would be like having a Catholic USA, where the judiciary must all be Catholic priests, the legislature must all be practicing Catholics, and the Knights of Columbus would come around and kick your ass if you didn’t say your Hail Marys.
In fact, Iran has parliamentary representation reserved for Christians, Zoroastrians and for Jews.
Thanks. Didn’t know that!
It has a completely corrupt leadership where for some of them sanctions are an opportunity because they wouldn t be able to compete with more transparent Western businesses.
This war isn’t for the US. It is entirely for Israel’s hegemony. To turn Iran into a chaotic state like Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Iraq, and Somalia. Many Americans will die for that objective (including those like the victims in Austin, Tx). Billions will be stolen from taxpayers’ pockets for that. And believe, you have absolutely no say in the matter.
Trump jumped on board to continue the Epstein coverup.
In the meantime our infrastructure in the USA deteriorates even more, Think about the dice roll you are doing next time you drive over a bridge or rumble down a street that should have been repaved ten years ago.
I think it might be called treason.
Clinton normalized lying and oral sex.
Trump normalized treason and child rape.
What next?
Here we sit, watching it happening and tut-tuttng.
Clinton doesn’t get the award for normalized lying. That was normalized around the time of, “Et tu, Brutus?”
Maybe… but you gotta give him the “oral sex isn’t sex”
What’s next? Massive correction in asset prices. If history still has any rhyme left in it. Hot wars usually provide decent cover for financial crimes.
Who needs cover anymore?
But lying and oral sex are All-American activities. Treason and child rape are against the law in any modern country.
Oral sex used to be illegal, and I think there should be a lot more situations where lying is.
Clinton was bombing the former Yugoslavia area. Smoking Monica’s cigar was the distraction circus, and congress provided the side show.
Guys, guys….relax
Just a couple days and this will be all over….
Well, I mean give it just a few weeks…
OK,OK…..I mean, we should have this wrapped up in 3-4 months…
At least there are no US boots on the ground…
Err, we might have to put boots on the ground 🙁
Jesus will come back and smite them before we have to put boots on the ground. At least that’s what they’re telling the wearers of the boots:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/military-leaders-iran-war-trump-172548999.html
Armageddon it?
Yeah, Ima gettin’ it
after Iran its Turkey’s turn
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/after-iran-its-turkey/
Thanks Mish for this dialogue. I sometimes resist Chiming in because I tested positive for Foot in Mouth Disease. I had a thought that the 1979 Iranian revolution was fomented by the usual suspects because the Shah was increasingly critical of the control a small nation was having on US policy. Look up the 60 minutes interview with the Shah.
Mohammad Mosaddegh was voted in in 1951 to rule instead of the Monarchy and was deposed in a coup orchestrated by outside influence.
In 1951 Ruhollah Khomeini who became Ayatollah was equally opposed to the Monarchy on religious grounds and 30 years later led the 1979 Iranian Revolution
When the Shah started speaking up, perhaps for finally wanting to advocate for his people instead of his controllers….He had to go.
Getting KENNEDIED, or MALCOM XED, or LUTHER KINGED, or CHARLIED was too obvious, and a chain of rule would only have the Shah’s successor having similar views. By colonial necessity a broad based revolution was fomented that included a majority of groups and demographics of Iranians. It was probably fomented to install a more controllable puppet, but providence thought differently. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini became the prominent voice of Iran and the rest is history. Colonialists always overplay their hand with disastrous results.
The 60 Minutes interview with the Shah is a must-see, including how “Mike Wallace” referred to himself.
I voted for someone who had the balls to do this most necessary thing. We got him.
balls maybe, smarts no?
He has both. Smarts without balls is useless. Lots of people are smart but use their intelligence to find reasons not to use their balls.
Let’s see how smart Tramp is in 6 months when US casualties increase along with the oil price and world trade grinds to a halt. I think the US might just have bitten off more than it can chew this time. Probably the catalyst for world wide recession.
Don’t forget to get your kids to sign up first!
We will see. What if it doesn’t happen?
Nah, hung like a goldfish. (According to that porn star he was screwing)
Bombing Iran at Israel’s instruction is the most necessary thing?
Everybody in the Gulf and in many in Europe know that Iran has been spreading death and destruction throughout the region and beyond. That is just their mentality and just what they do. We waited decades to see if they moderate but they never did so the only way now is to get rid of them and everyone is onboard except those who prefer to hide behind outdated concepts that no one believes in anymore if they ever did. It was coming anyway. Trump just pulled the triger.
They were not spreading death and destruction in the region. They were providing arms to Hezballah to defend themselves against the Israelis. The Israelis on the other hand have been spreading death and destruction.
Got who? A feeble old man?
They replaced him with somebody stronger and meaner.
Mission Accomplished, dipshit.
Got who? 3-5 clerics (e.g., Khamenei, Shamkhani, Shirazi), 1-3 executive leaders (Defense Minister), 40+ IRGC commanders/intelligence leaders…
A bit more than just a feeble old man, dipshit
And yet the missiles and drones are still flying out of Iran.
Zero effect.
Just remember when the ax falls, murder stays murder.
I am not a supporter of Iran, but have you looked around the region. There are no angels over there. Iran, may be the worst, but it was being contained. And now we have unleashed an unknown – that is likely to exacerbate the refugee crisis already a crisis in the Middle East. Sometimes the best you can hope for in containment. And who knows what Netanyahu has in store for the region. I did not vote for him to be my commander in chief and it is clear he now holds the title. This is a sad day for America.
9/11? Nope, Sunni fanatics, funded by Saudi Arabia.
ISIS? Nope, Sunni fanatics, funded by Saudi Arabia.
The list goes on.
Hardly, Trump couldn’t stand up to Bibi so he took the cowards way out and started a disastrous war that we are guaranteed to regret.
oh we got him?? really, you were up nights thinking about Khamenei??
El Trumpedo is up nights thinking about Donaldo 😉
And here your are, thinking of me.
Do you touch yourself?
I’ll bet his tongue touches his nose when he thinks about you.
I let your mom do that 😉
You voted for a coward and draft dodger. He is a pedophile and probably the most hateful person alive.
Some of us kinda did vote for this when we cast our ballot for Trump. Trump is a product of what precedes him and much of that is observable and calculable (in probabilities). More-so with Trump than any other candidate.
I don’t know what will be the outcome of all this (Iran’s status and consequences). I can think of some (possibilities). Every past president has put us “on-the-spot, one way or another.
Keeping my fingers crossed. Finish what is started n a way that is worth the risk and losses.
Worry about the politics later.
https://x.com/i/status/2028820108919898524
“Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.”
—Karl Marx, “The 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon” (1851-52)
Just lie back and try to enjoy it…
Eat a rock.
Putting boots on the ground is ludicrous imo. After what they just did in Venezuelan, and just recently did as well, with hardly a boot being worn. No need for it, as there are no need for tanks. They get wiped out by the drones. No need for infantry in massive numbers any longer. They can be wiped out in seconds flat, and they won’t even hear or see it coming…
Pretty sure everyone that signed up read the small print about dying for Israel. So boots on the ground it is.
That’s BS! With todays weapons, soldiers should be in a bunker on a screen, and not in combat against those weapons instead.
“soldiers should be in a bunker on a screen”
Yes, those are the Israeli soldiers…you know, the guys from the country that actually run AmeriBurger
But that isn’t what Israel is instructing the US to do now, is it?
We’ve had that stuff for 30 years. Point to a conflict where this has been successful, or vanish in a clout of smoke and return to spew some other nonsense.
Do you know how many people take a topic, and then ask the question, “DID YOU VOTE FOR THIS?” THe topic is important to discuss, to ask if one voted for this is just silly. When an article asks that, i just role my eyes now.
I don’t recall a National vote taking place, ever really. So do we truly ever get a vote, other than for an individual. They have no power alone, so it’s meaningless then right? Party line doesn’t do it unless you’re 100% and that’s practically nobody.
“I don’t recall a National vote taking place”
Oh, you must have been away at the time. There was a vote..and $$$ won.
Miriam Adelson gives $100 million to Trump campaign, making good on reported pledge
https://www.timesofisrael.com/miriam-adelson-gives-100-million-to-trump-campaign-making-good-on-reported-pledge/
Not a National election…. A vote for going to war, sending money to Ukraine, etc. Specifics matter per situation.
I recently heard she pledged $250M for trump to run again in 2028.
That’s because you are unable to take accountability for your actions.
they didn’t vote for it and if asked would have said we should not do regime change in Iran, but now that he’s done it they will support him
Yes, I voted for this
Thanks for admitting you are stupid.
Trump may achieve the US getting kicked out of the Middle East, so at least there’s that. The gulf countries are learning that the US can’t or won’t protect them from Iran. Why take the risk of allowing bases on their territory?
The irony that defense was a motivation to host foreign bases in their countries, just to see them evacuated as soon as possible, and becoming the target of bombings.
Europe, take note. The Usonian bases were never meant to protect you.
We would save a boatload of money doing that, and add on the EU US Soldiers coming home. Shia& we just grabbed a boatload of buyers of everything, once they get home! That’s one way to help the economy I suppose…
America has cut off oil supplies to an Asian country before. We did this to Japan in the 40’s. We all know what they did next. Do we really believe that cutting off the oil to China will have no consequences? Again. Where the fuck is congress? I will make it a point to stay healthy so I can witness the inevitable trial and execution of the members of this administration. Life is about to get very difficult for the average American. The country’s balance sheet and global standing are cooked.
The US is not cutting off the oil supplies.
Neither is Iran. The insurance industry is (see other thread).
Let’s see what happens when hauling oil through the strait gets lucrative enough for somebody to try it uninsured.
The insurance people are correct.
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? Guess who OWNS your “representation”?
“Where the fuck is congress?”
Yeah, Chuck Schumer real quiet.
Wonder why?
He’s happy with the situation, and will continue to sell out his constituents and keep the pigs in power.
They’re selling stocks and hedging positions.
Inevitable? All Usonian presidents since at least Truman have been war criminals, mostly in wars not authorized by Congress. Yet, they never paid for their crimes against the Constitution or humanity, but enjoyed comfortable retirement.
Eventually, the MATH and available resources to keep the sham going run out… This is definitely not Truman’s America. LOL.
Something that really bothers me is that the people who didn’t vote for Trump will be the ones left to clean up the mess. MAGA can’t be bothered with personal responsibility. They can’t even admit error. They’ll sink back into their couch with Fox News on and blame liberals, blacks, Mexicans, whatever, anybody else to avoid looking at their own contribution to this disaster.
– MAGA can’t be bothered with personal responsibility. > Every MAGA I have met, is the opposite of that sentence. They are responsible, and caring people from what I have come across.
– They can’t even admit error. Trump has made some bone head moves for sure.
– They’ll sink back into their couch with Fox News. > I don’t know a person that watches Fox or any other
TV News.
– blame liberals – Biden was what? Open Borders was who? Massive Fraud by Whom?
We just don’t agree on what we see and hear I guess, and that’s ok.
Here’s a perfect example of this kind of idiot that will let other people deal with the consequences of their actions. Already falling back on the stupid blame Biden shit, amazing. Like a robot- no actual personal agency. It’s like talking to a dog.
You are blaming Trump for shit that hasn’t even happened, and you’re after me for pointing out WHAT DID. Wtf…
Oh boo hoo.
That’s your new name: BooHooStu.
Yours is PEDO E
I think it might be a great fit…
and yours is baby girl now shutup
You are really arguing that Trump didn’t just take us to war with Iran? You are truly an idiot.
They’ll be paying for it like you and me
A lot of us will remember them, and extract a bit more from them, where possible.
If you voted for Trump, you voted for this. Similar thinking would suggest that if you voted for Biden, you voted for open borders. The list could go on. Casting such a wide net is foolish.
If you vote- you responsible for it! Does not matter who you wrote in. If you believe elections , you support system , you responsible then!
By extension, do you believe not voting means you are totally blame free? How is participating worse than opting out, unless opting out is Going Galt?
It was right there in Project 2025. So yes, low info Trump voters are 100% responsible for this.
As an Open Borders person, I voted for Biden. He disappointed me.
I expected nothing from that crowd other than to keep Trumpstien out of power, and they couldn’t even do that.
the rhetorical point being made is the opposite: they did NOT vote for this because when he ran he repeatedly said no ore regime change.
From the beginning of fiscal year 2021 through the end of 2024, the Biden administration carried out approximately 1.4 million to 1.5 million formal deportations.
When including other forms of repatriation, such as the pandemic-era Title 42 expulsions (which accounted for roughly 3 million actions between March 2020 and May 2023, with the majority occurring under Biden) and “returns” at the border, total actions to remove migrants exceed 4.4 million.
If they didn’t get in, they wouldn’t need to be repatriated. Duh!
The really scary thing about this is that we can count on this type of crazy and nonsensical stuff from Trump to continue for three more years. Can you believe we are just in year one! I’d like to say that this level of insanity cannot continue – but it can – but we won’t have the same country by the time he is done. He really is like a bored, out-of-control four year old who was given the keys to the house, car, and gun safe.
Only until he is jailed for pedophilia that is what he is fighting against. Impeachment is not enough he must be imprisoned (if found guilty) or executed if found guilty of murder.
He’ll never do any time in jail.
By the time is out in 3 more years he’ll be using the Biden defense of ‘mentally impaired old man unfit for trial’.
Did you know that the average age an American girl loses her virginity is 17.1 years old? Which would imply that many are many years younger. Their lovers are all guilty of pedophilia and must be imprisoned, according your sense of justice.
Yes, I am defending having sex with beautiful young women. Apparently, half of the US population does as well.
“Their lovers” are teenage boys. LOL
Yeah… to boys that are that age, not creepy old men like you.
I banged plenty of underage girls… WHEN I WAS THEIR AGE.
Do you know that most of the men involved were also minors? It’s called teen sex stupid.
We need to Impeach and convict him before he can pardon himself and others.
We just went through a complete and utter self destructing mess for 4 Years with Old Joe. Hell, this could and should be a cake walk. It will get ironed out…
I can’t believe we are in year one, because in fact we are in year two
While Iran certainly harbors a few terrorists, we really ought to be hammering the big terrorist state in the region, the other theocracy: Israel.
How about the Christian Zionist theocracy in the White House?
What acts of terror has Israel perpetrated, haven’t heard of any.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
Exploding pagers come to mind. There is a LOT more.
Take a trip to Gaza.
Please change your name. Such idiocy associated with John Galt or Dagny Taggart is about as blasphemous as anything I can imagine.
What terrorist acts? Be specific and concrete.
I made the observation on this forum a while back on how unpopular ‘democratically elected’ Western leaders are compared to the ‘enemy’ states like Russia, China, etc. where their leaders are overwhelmingly supported.
Approval ratings: Macron: 16%, Starmer: 18%, Merz: 26%, Meloni: 35%, Trump: 37%, Nutty-Yahoo: 40%.
A guest on Judge Napolitino yesterday observed this phenomenon of being ruled by unpopular leaders: “We’re in the hands of gangsters. We’re not in the hands of a constitutional system. We’re in the hands of a broken, corrupted, gangster-led system”.
Unlike with airline pilots, there is no psychological exam required for Western leaders to fill their roles. So we wind up with psychopaths like Nutty-Yahoo making reckless selfish decisions which harm millions and billions of people world-wide and they themselves suffer no consequences.
Have you considered that perhaps the real reason for Putin being so popular may have to do with how many people fall out of windows for saying they don’t like him?
Not at all, because I don’t fall for Western propaganda. I have an idea how Putin would fare in an opinion poll of Russians. He has a large majority supporting him. Same with Xi in China.
You “have an idea” lol
In the absence of any sort of reliable information, your response is to “make shit up that sounds good”.
Then you get upset when people don’t believe it.
How about you ask Chat GPT or whatever other source of information at your disposal to find out? Do I have to do that for you and Tom?
Vladimir Putin remains generally popular with a large portion of the Russian public, according to recent polls — but how that popularity is measured and interpreted is nuanced:
📊 Current Approval & Trust Polls
Recent surveys by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VCIOM) show that about 76–78% of Russians say they trust Putin, and a similar share (around 78%) say he is doing his job well.Earlier surveys also reported over 80% trust in him in 2025, with approval of his performance near that level too.These figures are higher than the approval ratings of many Western leaders, which often sit below 50%.🗳️ Election ResultsIn the 2024 Russian presidential election, official results report that Putin received roughly 88% of the vote. — What that actual vote share reflects in terms of genuine popularity is debated, partly because Russia’s political environment heavily favors the incumbent and limits competition.🧠 Context & Polling EnvironmentIndependent analysts and some Russians argue that polling and election results in Russia may overstate support due to state influence over media, pressure on dissenters, and weak opposition. — This makes it hard to know exact levels of support outside of official numbers. Historically, polls from independent organisations (like the Levada Center) have shown Putin’s approval often around 70–80%, though with fluctuations related to events like the war in Ukraine. 📌 SummaryOfficial polls consistently show most Russians trust Putin and approve his leadership — typically 70–80% or higher in recent data. Election results show extremely high vote shares, but interpreting them as a pure measure of popularity is complicated by Russia’s political conditions. Independent observers note that those official figures may overestimate true popular sentiment, and genuine support levels might be lower once accounting for media control and electoral constraints.
Despite Chat GPT being biased, it has to admit Putin is popular among Russians.
ChatGPT gets its information from the sources you call unreliable, and mixes in a hallucination now and then.
It’s mainstream media purée, and you lap it up.
Plato warned this would transpire.
I wrote in Thomas Massie (the last 3 Presidential Elections)!
Grift, golf, bully, brag and blame
From Taco to NeoconDon
No, I voted against him!
Zion Don and the biggest rug pull in history.
Usonian voter , your name is Charlie Brown.