I have a simple suggestion.
Department of Defense Shares Classified War Plan Details With Journalist
Yesterday I noted Department of Defense Shares Classified War Plan Details With Journalist
The most striking aspect is the MAGA denial and hypocrisy.
See link for details of what happened. It’s very damning, and inexcusable.
Yet, today, we have denials, lies, and excuses.
Lie of the Day
The Wall Street Journal reports Trump Administration Denies Signal Chat Shared Classified Details With Journalist
The White House and two top intelligence officials denied on Tuesday that classified materials about military strikes in Yemen were shared by officials on a group chat on a nongovernment service, while Democrats denounced the security breach as reckless and dangerous.
Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, and John Ratcliffe, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told Congress Tuesday that the chat among senior officials over a pending military strike against Houthi militants earlier this month didn’t include classified information. The Atlantic reported that the chat included details of an imminent operation against the Houthis.
Gabbard and Ratcliffe’s claim, which was made in testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee, was challenged by several senators who said it wasn’t plausible that the chat could be unclassified.
“If this was the case of a military officer or an intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior, they would be fired,” said Sen. Mark Warner, a Virginia Democrat who serves as the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee. “This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless, incompetent behavior, particularly toward classified information.”
Kash Patel, director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, declined to say if his agency would investigate whether the Signal chat violated security procedures, adding that he was briefed on the app discussion on Monday night and had no updates to provide.
The disclosure that top administration officials had conducted several days of discussion about the military operation over Signal, which was revealed in The Atlantic’s report, has also put a spotlight on national security adviser Mike Waltz, who organized the group thread about U.S. plans to launch airstrikes against Yemen’s Houthi militants and included the magazine’s editor in chief, Jeffrey Goldberg.
Earlier on Tuesday, Trump signaled his support for Waltz, who had privately come under criticism from some administration officials after the incident. “Michael Waltz has learned a lesson, and he’s a good man,” Trump told NBC News.
Ratcliffe confirmed that he had participated but then said he didn’t remember any discussion of “weapon packages” or other operational details that the Atlantic reported had been mentioned. [I suggest we refresh his piss poor memory].
As for information shared by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Ratcliffe said that shouldn’t be considered to be secret because Hegseth has the authority to determine whether Defense Department information is classified and has insisted it wasn’t.
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a post on X that officials in the thread didn’t discuss “war plans.” She also said the White House Counsel’s Office “has provided guidance on a number of different platforms for President Trump’s top officials to communicate as safely and efficiently as possible.”
Goldberg said in a statement: “The information I received on this Signal chat included the full name of an active CIA officer; human targeting information that could affect an adversary’s understanding of U.S. intelligence sources and methods; the sequencing of upcoming attacks; the weapons used in forthcoming attacks; the exact times attacks were supposed to start (information I received before attacks were launched); and real-time damage assessments that, again, could compromise sources and methods.”
The statement continued: “Any responsible national security expert would consider the information contained in this Signal chat to be of the greatest sensitivity, and would agree that this information should never be shared on non-government messaging apps.”
Hegseth, who was among 18 users in the Signal group, on Monday criticized Goldberg and said that “nobody was texting war plans and that’s all I have to say about that.”
Since It’s Not Classified
Since none of this is classified, my simple suggestion is: The Atlantic should release 100 percent of it, with one name redacted.
Then we will see who said what, whether Hegseth is a liar, and whether Ratcliffe is either a liar (or has a bad memory or was sleeping during the meeting).
To protect the one CIA agent mentioned by name, redact that name.
Ok, call me skeptical. How did a journalist hostile to current administration just happen to be added to Signal chat group. Mike Waltz or an aid created the group by inviting participants. If inadvertent, he or aid had to have journalist contact information on device. Either a set up by aid or Mr. Waltz has used journalist in past for selective leaks of information (assume the later). Of course Waltz denies any relationship or prior communications. Assume Mr. Waltz soon to be given the opportunity to spend more time with his family.
Maybe the Atlantic read your blog, Mish. Because they released some more details from the text chain.
And I’m not a high-level Trump Cabinet appointee, but I would certainly call those details “war plans”
‘The same group that allowed 20 million unvetted illegals into the country want you to think they believe in national security.’
Off by a factor of TEN.
Next absurd claim?
“Moreover, over 40 percent of the undocumented population in the country are individuals who have overstayed their visas, not entered through the US-Mexico border. Finally, while the number of undocumented in the country increased by 650,000 from 2020-2022, other undocumented individuals and families, especially from Mexico and Asian countries, have been leaving the United States.”
I am comprehending that there were lies, Mish.
I am also comprehending that the BIGGEST LIE was when Trump said that he wanted peace.
The worst aspects of this entire episode is that we are STILL FIGHTING A WAR ON TERRORISTS long after 911. This will never end.
And DOGE does not intend to cut this spending and to cut the weapons industry, BY FAR THE BIGGEST SPENDERS.
That trough is deep!
Yup, the only maga guy I still communicate with (he’s a client so I don’t really have much choice) just bailed on the trump train because he actually believed Trump’s lies about being a candidate for peace, and instead bombed Yemen and gave Israel the green light to go back to killing Palestinians. The sheer incompetence and childish cover up here can’t be helping the mental gymnastics required to support this clown show.
Doge is a joke…. It’s going to end up costing billions short term thanks to gutting the IRS right before tax season. And now things are falling apart over at social security… No fraud discovered… And because they are proceeding unconstitutionally, any imagined savings will vanish like smoke as the courts continue to rule against them… this will not end well for the Republicans.
Agreed except no redactions, remember Valarie Flame outed by yeah a Republican Dickless Drunk Chanie.
Valerie Plame.
All is well that ends well.
ALL IS WELL THAT ENDS WELL!!!
The orange messiah said numb nuts learned a lesson.
THE GREAT BIGLY ORANGE MESSIAH PROCLAIMED NUMB NUTS LEARNED A LESSON !
Won’t happen again.
WON’T HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!
Sleep well sheeple/comrades
SLEEP WELL SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used all caps for the cult, they might not be able to comprehend a message otherwise….
How did that Goldberg of Atlantic get included in chat ?
Who had access to (or hacked into) National Security Advsier Walz’s phone to put Goldberg’s phone number in the contact list ?
Walz came out and lambasted Goldberg so its not as though he ever communicated with Goldberg before.
Goldberg is a Democrat scumbag who thought Biden was genius and Soros is Yahweh.
I’m surprised they would knowingly communicated classified info on the Signal app. I doubt it had that level of specify to jeopardize personnel like give the names and addresses of their spies and informants in Yemen, etc.
These are the right questions to ask.
Who would go to such an length that in order to thwart Trump administration they would risk exposing National Security?
Sure and you still believe in Santa Claus I’m sure.
My grand children still do. For that reason alone it is worth fighting Treachery of deep state operatives so that there are next generations of Americans with a Nation to call their own.
Obviously Walz has leaked to Goldberg in the past. That’s why Goldbergs contact was on Walz’s phone. Walz claimed to not know him, etc., but, that is obviously a lie. Walz is a leaker.
Brian McCormack rises to the top of suspected Waltz staffer who put Goldberg on call. McCormack was a former aid to Dick Cheney and a Jeb supporter in 2016. Maybe he has an axe to grind? Maybe he’s been leaking to Goldberg for a long time?
I doubt that classified info was passed which would jeopardize the safety of American military personnel or any info that compromised a mission.
It was not even embarrassing info as I’m not surprised the Vice President said western Europe is a free loader.
He was referring to that the navies from France, Germany (if it has one), United Kingdom, etc. are not providing adequate military force in that region to protect maritime shipments to Europe.
That is what the Democrats are trying to distract from and make this all about strawman arguments that classified info was comprised
Glad DEI is alive and well in the Trump Administration. It’s only fair for the retards to have their chance to run things.
Don’t forget the drunks!
As I understand it, Signal connections are by a telephone number, not an email address.
Unless this guy’s number is one digit off from someone who was supposed to be invited, the question is WHO had this guy, Jeffrey Goldberg, on their contact list in their phone and WHY?
Waltz denies having the number on his phone, so someone else must have had it. It didn’t appear out of thin air.
Or maybe Waltz is lying about that too?
Someone who has leaked in the past must have had Goldberg’s number. Don’t think that would be Waltz or Hegseth, but what do I know? Maybe Brian McCormack? He was an aid to Dick Cheney and supported Jeb. They need to set a leaker trap and fire whoever it was.
Moronism is spreading like wildfire
Discussing attacking a group in a different country when said group and country aren’t a threat to the U.S. and indicating they’re doing it because they can and to prove a point to other uninvolved countries is no longer being erroneously described as “war plans”? That’s a step in the right direction for media outlets. \s
Once upon a time such things would be a war crime and kept out of the public domain. Now too many who care about the “story” don’t even stop to consider the whole picture. No need to ‘wag the dog’.
(If you don’t know the movie, watch it instead of reading this review- a quality flick!)
https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/wag-the-dog-1998#google_vignette
Didn’t the Houthis fire missiles at U.S. naval vessels? Since when is trying to kill U.S. sailors and sink U.S. ships not a threat?
And why were any missiles fired in the direction of those vessels?
One can’t ignore U.S. actions (direct and via proxy) over the past decade and think that the current administration has casus belli based on the event you reference.
If you genuinely think that any activity by any group in Yemen is a threat to the U.S. then it must be about #500 on your list of threats.
atlantic editor was in israeli army in past. which is kind of funny. Don Trump is just like Kim jong UN. total fantasy life……..not tethered to reality. with an adoring cult who gets something from the whole show. don’t forget the best trading adage ever, losers win by losing. donald has tons of losers in his cult of sadism.
Maybe I missed some facts, but what should this Atlantic person have done? Could he have simply joined the conversation to say “Hey guys and gal, do you know I’m on the chat?”
He did what he could, warned the US public that their administration is complete morons, but redacted mission critical info to protect assets.
Now the trump admin infants are trying to lie about it, so the redacted stuff might have to come out just to prove they’re lying… The level of petty incompetence would be breathtaking if it wasn’t so predictable (to everybody except red hatted halfwits)
And Trump was the last to know, and doesn’t have the moral compass to even know how to react… Grotesque
He’s a journalist. Reporting is what they do. He probably was shocked that
he got in, somehow. So he sat there and listened. But Signal is not a government tool for privacy. So it was easy enough, I’m guessing. Probably wouldn’t have happened if they had followed security protocol. Details, details, what’s a fascist to do?
No doubt it’s bad security protocol. But four days of sitting and listening? I’m not familiar with Signal. He knew he shouldn’t be on the chat and didn’t let the parties know? As a member of the chat could he confirm there were no nefarious characters also on the chat?
Again…a journalist. Can you imagine how you might feel? History happening right before your eyes. That’s what all journalists live for. Also, the fact that the parties didn’t know he was listening, is the issue. Good lord!!
Goldberg’s restraint is amazing and proves what kind of true patriot he is. If it were me the second one of these lying clowns said the information wasn’t classified I’d publicly disclose everything. Guess as a US Army Veteran 1972/75 I’m just not patriotic.
Sen. Dick Blumenthsl said that this is a potential of the Espionage Act. He lied about serving in Vietnam.
Mark Warner was very pious in his questioning of Tulsi Gabbard. He was part of the Russia collusion hoax and communicated directly with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch about connecting with Christopher Steele. Warner intimated that the committee looking at the matter had evidence proving wrongdoing by Trump. The committee had nothing.
Joe Biden lied about his knowledge of confidential files in his garage and sharing that info.
Know what? I don’t give a crap about whatever lying you’re accusing anybody of. I hope that they tell Mark Warner and Dickie B to go suck it.
it’s a uniparty empire of liars and war mongers. if you are still stuck on the red v blue team i can only LOL. it’s like pro wrestling kids. not a spit of difference between red and blue teams in past 50 years.
Latest update: one of the participants in the text chain was IN RUSSIA at the time. The same Russia that US Intel has warned is actively targeting the signal app… Unbelievable (but not really, anyone with two brain cells knew this was going to be a real clown show admin)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-envoy-steve-witkoff-signal-text-group-chat-russia-putin/
Gobsmacked continuously! I wish I could understand Americans who don’t see this. But, it’s what we are living with…
We just had a real clown show administration and Harris was going to be more of the same.
I’m old enough to remember Republicans and the media going ballistic over Hillary Clinton’s email server fiasco. This is many times worse.
Actually, it’s not worse. It pales in comparison to the magnitude of what Hillary Clinton did.
Hers went on for years. Hers was permanently stored rather programmed to disappear after a few hours. Hers was copied to an additional server run by a private citizen who was a high profile convicted sex offender. Hers was serviced by totally unvetted technicians for years. Hers was using a format that was universally acknowledged to be a high security risk unlike Signal which is a very secure system and used because of that. She swore an oath in writing and verbally that she would one hundred percent *not* do what she did but went ahead and did it anyway.
And I strongly doubt that any of the people involved in this admitted fiasco would physically destroy all computers and phones involved to avoid having to comply with an inquiring court order as Hillary Clinton did.
programmed to disappear after a few hours. so distroying the evidence of government business. that’s criminal and it’s only done by officials who need to cover up crimes.
Show us the part where Clinton shared secret operational plans about a pending strike with a journalist (in contravention of federal law) on a platform that would delete said communication in a few days (in contravention of federal law.)
Needed STAT: about 10 preemptive presidential pardons for well documented violations of the Federal Records Act …
Funny part of this is that this event will only strengthen Trump.
Seems few are noticing that contrary to story line Trump being a Dictator his administration members has actual discussion about Policy.
To all you TDS sufferers a wholehearted thanks
It’s amazing, that your big thrill is strengthening a convicted felons right to over turn the rule of law. You are literally giggling over the destruction of our country. I think you actually suffer from oppositional personality disorder. What is up, is really down. What is truth, is a lie. By the way the Conservative Party in the US has never been about policy. Simple recipe. Racism and misogyny all the way down. Not one good idea about anything at all.
They’re AINO’s (Americans in name only)
Yep
Thanks again for supporting Donald Trump.
Mar a Lago Raid cemented his election and opened many eyes.
This incident shows for all America just how warped Progressive Dems and legacy press minds are.
Please keep up the good work.
DEI is racist. Democrat Party thrives on racism. Democrats overturned the rule of law. Lawfare is corruption of the law. Trump’s conviction will be overturned on appeal. Obama said he was going to fundamentally change the country, which is the destruction of our country. Democrats support censorship, which is anti democracy and anti U.S. Constitution.
ZH: “California’s decline has grown so stark that even steadfast Democratic allies can no longer deny the truth: the state’s extreme left-wing policies have plunged it into chaos.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pro-kamala-harris-tech-titan-admits-democrats-destroye
Not at all surprised. Buckle yourself in as this ride is only beginning.
Ah, the Trump administration part deux. I had almost forgotten why I voted for a democrat for the first time in my life. Now it’s all flooding back: the constant lying, name calling, incompetence and general low-class behavior. Got the popcorn ready to go.
It’s pathetic. But MAGA folks won’t care.
They believed Trump when he said:
“you can declassify just by saying it’s declassified, even by thinking about it.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212
So, problem solved.
If we ever get our country back from the fascists…we need a serious look at the epic failures of our so called checks and balances. If the opposite party doesn’t understand that our country is no longer a functioning democracy we are doomed. I get it that we aren’t that now. But this must be addressed. I’m still unsure if the party that’s not conservative, is strong enough to handle this. This is a challenge for everyone who still believes in a Democracy.
The U.S. is a constitutional republic. The bill of rights prevents democracy. The party that is not conservative wants to take our country from us. Obama made that clear when he said he was going to fundamentally change the country. You aren’t addressing that.
Trump was right and obviously so.
trump was only ever right about his personal Vietnam being avoiding STDs which I doubt he was successful. Like everything else he probably screwed that up too.
Trump has surrounded himself with idiots for his foreign policy team. Media blowhards who are totally unqualified. The Russians and the world are literally laughing at us. Even Witkoff is a blowhard Zionist billionaire who has no adequate knowledge of history and foreign policy matters to be able to lick the boots of someone like Putin or Lavrov. This is becoming extremely embarrassing for the US. Trump needs to bring in a few very knowledgeable professionals like Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer.
This is the wisest comment at Mishtalk in years. Well done!
Therein lies the problem, no self respecting professional would work for trump.
It’s a black and white violation of security rules to use a public channel for classified communication. It doesn’t matter whether the channel is encrypted or not, Goldberg’s sneaking into the chat is a perfect example of why it is a violation. I’m sure the people in that chat were aware of the rules. It was their obligation to shut down the chat immediately if the conversation strayed into a classified domain. They did not. Hegseth, Vance and Gabbard have been through this many times in their careers in the military. Ratcliff is head of the CIA. Waltz is the President’s National Security Advisor. Best practice is this: use a qualified security officer (I’m sure the White House has dozens of them) to manage your communications. Then if there is a failure, that person will lose his job. In this case, Waltz should be frog marched out of the White House (actually, that should happen regardless for his being a big pal of Jeffrey Goldberg, a man who hates Trump and wakes up every day on a mission to destroy him.)
Signal *is* the secure system. The qualified security officers you mention *use* Signal. It is a very secure system as proven by the fact that there is no record stored anywhere for subsequent detection. Just make sure you don’t include the wrong people in the conversation. But then that has always been the problem with a security system. Include the wrong people and it can’t work as intended no matter how good it is.
The one shortcoming is that it is comparatively new. Now everybody that uses it has learned to do something basic. Check to see who is included the chat, continually. Keep your eyes open, keep checking.
Signal is not a secure system for this type of communication. It is a third party tool and as such unsuited for state secrets. Anyone foolish enough to ignore that should not be working with classified information.
I learned in the military that classified information can only be shared with persons that 1. HAVE THE LEVEL OF CLEARANCE NECESSARY 2. HAVE A NEED TO KNOW
It seems to me the sharing of this info was simply bragging by the Sec of Def.
On a subject that has some actual bearing on National Security.
Vance is headed off to Greenland to size things up.
As to rest of this, Yawn.
Sorry but you will have to do better if you believe this is going to overthrow Trump Administration.
No one really believes that anymore. He has surrounded himself with yes boys. Plus, authoritarian threats to lawyers and judges and their families and friends should keep THEM under control. I keep asking myself why maga people like/love this behavior. It’s easy to understand now. You love him destroying America for his communist-fascist friends…You just don’t know who you are, yet! Chaos agents! Arsonists! Nihilists! Patriots my ass!
Aino’s (Americans in name only)
Hopefully Greenland will disappear Vance.
Anyone wonder if this was dual purposed? A reporter gets played and potential targets gets nervous and moves. The US loves it when bad guys move.
Stop with the 4d chess bullshit.
Yeah sure thing!
27 dimensional chess at it once again!!
What a complete waste of time …. I bet it scared the crap out of Yemen … are we so dumb to think that our enemies aren’t monitoring what we are saying behind closed doors because we are doing the same to them …. This nothing more than hot air ….
Great – release the entire conversation
Absolutely
With this knuckleheaded logic there should be a reporter attending every meeting to report on what was said. Classified briefings/conversations don’t matter I guess.
Yemen… a global threat that we all think about everyday. Unlike Russia…barely think about them being a problem. Barely…😏
Russia is not publicly blowing up commercial shipping that is American or associated with America simply because it is American. And I do think about the contribution to increased prices caused by the Houthi practice of blowing up commercial shipping that comes within range. I think about those increased prices every day.
The fact is that Trump and all his people hate the Atlantic and for reason so why was the reporter included in a prior signal group chat and then forget to remove him? It is possible of course. Screw ups happen. Nevertheless it is somewhat strange but if it was set up by Trump on purpose then that doesn’t fit well either. It’s not his style or a least I don’t think so. This has a subtilty unlike him. Anyway screw ups happen but no one is going to resign over this.
I’m upset they didn’t invite Whoopi Goldberg.
Waltz probably meant to add Jeff Goldblum, not Jeff Goldberg. Easy mistake.
This just goes to show how juvenile the Trump administration is. Why would any of this even have to be texted? Joking about killing people is what they are doing. Morales of this administration is just bad.
Not bad….completely missing.
AINO American In Name Only
Goes without saying…
a big part of gaining trust is to admit when you’ve made a mistake.
And gaining Trust is a big part of what Trump et al has to do right now.
Now we got us some OOPS!
Was the leak a cry for help, a deceit or an error?
So many questions… so little transparency!!! I’m sure we all know the truth, vewwy, vewwy soon🤓
Somewhere Chelsea Manning wonders why he/she got convicted for endangering US lives but these clowns didn’t get the same charge given they also must have endangered lives since Goldberg could have easily released this info prior to the attack.
I’d be asking for a full pardon unless whomever included Goldberg on the chat gets charged.
If they can overlook many thousands of classified eamils on Hillary Clintons laptop and her bleaching the drives and the the bengazi lies then this pretty much goes as a nothing burger .
there were no Benghazi lies. there were dozen of investigations none of which found anything noteworthy that wasn’t known in the first 3 days. the benghazi report (he one Gowdy did) was a total non event, and it was done by Republicans.
Clinton’s “classified” emails, are not in the same universe as using a non-approved communications app anyone can download on their smartphone to discuss imminent and later real-time details about an ongoing military operation. Lots of stupid things are classified that arguably shouldn’t be, all reps take some work home wiht htem even though they shouldn’t, and none of it is anywhere as damaging s this breach.
Clinton should have been prosecuted, no doubt, but the fact that she wasn’t doesn’t mean that these dipshits shouldn’t, at the very least, lose their jobs.
Walz had contacted Goldberg 2 days prior. its a set up for ? All 18 present should have testified today where were they?
The Atlantic? SERIOUSLY??…………Absolute fraud, fake news and lies, no news value AT ALL………….Mish, please, get the TDS checked out
What does the overall “news value” of the Atlantic have to do with whether it actually HAPPENED? MDS is just as bankrupt as TDS. We’ll see good things happen under DJT and we’ll see bad. This one is boneheaded. Call it truthfully and not emotionally.
I would ban any idiot who makes posts like these about a source. Yes, that would mean you.
The Atlantic may lean left but they do write some good articles and are a respected service among people with at least 1/2 of a brain.
Sources don’t matter? Please. Yes, sources matter. It is a legit question.
Excepting Covid and vaccine information ( they ignore the evidence there is something wrong with this ‘official view’, the Atlantic is a great and trustworthy source of information. But I guess any source that criticizes Trump and thinks he’s a moron (most Repub reps agree, if you read what they say privately) must be “fake”.
Recommendation: any time you hear someone call something “fake news” – then regard it as true.
I watched some of this song and dance performance today. What a crap show!
Why not just own up to the deed?
Say, ‘Hey, we messed’. We’re going to learn from this mistake and make sure it doesn’t happen again’.
Trumps mental illness will not allow him to take blame or admit failure. As much as I hate to admit it, it’s not really his fault, he’s a sick man and deserves pity. Oh and should never be in any position of authority in the govt or even private business.
It seems to point to some unwellness somewhere. There’s a limit to how much can be accomplished in too short of a time.
I suppose there isn’t a “Security Classification Guide” associated with this information, so it therefore could have been “unclassified”, but possibly “For Official Use Only” (FOUO)? 🙂 The fact that all of these appointees are discussing things like this over open e-mail vs. on the government’s classified “SIPR” net, shows they are extremely careless, and need to get their act together! Hopefully the adult in the room will also require them to re-accomplish the annual on-line COMSEC training course, that all DoD Active Duty, GS and contractors are required to complete!
Now THIS is the salient point. These actors were using Signal to avoid having their conversations logged and tracked. This was the same thing that got Hillary Clinton in trouble.
Except that Hillary had her own server to hide the fact that she used her position as Secretary of State for quid pro quo arrangements for donations to the Clinton Foundation from which she, her husband and her daughter Chelsea Hubbell skimmed tens of millions of dollars.
None of these allegations were proven, for otherwise they would have all gone to jail.
And “her own server” was certainly a lot safer than any Signal server.
Her server in the bathroom was probably not safe since it was not managed by the proper IT people. Its security was close to nonexistent. Surely it was hacked but since we don’t what was on it no one can say whether it had secrets on it or not.
not only were they not proven, they were affirmatively disproven. none of this matters to MAGA. they still think Trump won in 2020. I mean why even try talking to such idiots about what’s real?
Who Friggin Cares and why????
Some Americans think that accidentally sharing national security level information about imminent war plans is a breach of duty. We understand many conservatives don’t care when their own do it, but imagine the outrage were Biden’s team to accidentally copy in a reporter to private meeting like that. No wait, don’t imagine it, keep your head buried deep in the sand, you like it that way apparently.
This is true but what do the Dems want? A promise not to do it again? A sacrificial firing? Or are they happy just to beat off on the issue?
you’re right, but this is what politicians do. I mean, a=if this happened under Biden are you suggesting there wouldn’t have been the same sort of outrage. show at congress?
Who isn’t happy, beating off? If, you’re asking… weirdo!!
Who Friggin Cares and why???? Mish , MSM and the DC political establishment other than those groups mostly nobody gives a crap . They why is harder but my guess is bashing Trump generates a bunch more web traffic see the economic post before this so then we come back to its all about the money .
You’d be blowing gasket if this happened under Biden, guaranteed.
This was bad. It also has a Vindman smell to it.
If the facts are as reported, that reporter was included for a reason. And that reason was to create the firestorm and set the stage for future Democrat posturing and calls for resignations. I think they know who did it. The real question is, who was actually behind it.
They are desperate and it shows.
Some people feel it is wrong to treat national security and intelligence sharing as a game for partisan politics.
And then there’s fake “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella who did exactly that and was lauded as a hero by dems.
From the ‘everything’s a conspiracy’ side of the house. Sigh…
Would have been easy to prevent that by just using an actual secure channel to communicate…
The problem wasn’t the technology, it was who was invited. I’m fine with canning Mike Waltz. He’s a neocon Israel-firster. Unfortunately Trump is Israel-first, too. He probably converted.
No, this is more like the 70’s, with Deep Throat looking for an outlet in the press.
I look forward to whatever Mr. Goldberg gets access to next.
yes, it was all coordinated out of a pizzeria in Washington DC.