Mortgage Rates Soar Above 7 Percent for the First Time in Over a Decade

30 year fixed mortgage rates courtesy of Mortgage News Daily.

Mortgage Rates Are Now Over 7%, But It’s Complicated

Mortgage News Daily reports Yes, Mortgage Rates Are Now Over 7%, But It’s Complicated

For our purposes today, we’re mainly focused on the presence of points and, to a lesser extent, the variations between lenders. As always, any rate you see in a major rate index or survey will assume essentially no “hits” (no upward adjustments to the rate or the upfront costs due to the particulars of your scenario).

The same is true of our daily rate tracking, which is now over 7%. But it’s important to note that you may or may not actually see a rate quote of over 7%. To truly understand why, you’d need a basic understanding of how mortgage-backed securities (MBS) translate to mortgage rates (there’s a primer for that). 

If you don’t click the primer, here’s an attempt to distill a tome into a paragraph: MBS are bonds comprised of multiple mortgages. They’re offered in 0.5% increments called coupons. Each coupon is like a bucket that can contain a certain range of mortgage rates with +1.125% being the upper limit.

In other words, an MBS coupon of 6.0 would be required for a mortgage rate of 7.125 (6.0 MBS coupon +1.125%). A 5.5 MBS coupon could not facilitate rates any higher than 6.625% (5.5 + 1.125).

The problem is that 6.0 MBS coupons only existed in the history books up until last week. Even then, it takes a tremendous amount of time and market stability for new coupons to be liquid (i.e. to have plenty of buyers and sellers, thus making the true price very apparent at any given moment).

That brings us to the bottom line on 7% not necessarily being 7%. Most rate quotes and most major rate indices include upfront “points” or other cost assumptions (and in larger amounts than normal). The presence of points means you could definitely still get 6.625% today. You’d just be paying more for it upfront.

In fact, for some lenders, that’s your best bet because you’d actually be paying MORE for a higher rate! Yes, this seems crazy, but again, rates are based on MBS prices, and if investors are paying more for a 6.625% mortgage than 7.125%, the former will be a better deal. This isn’t the case at every lender because different lenders “guess” at the moving target of those higher coupon MBS (the stuff that isn’t liquid yet, thus making true price discovery a guessing game).

The presence of points in mortgage rate quotes is problematic–especially in the last 6-9 months as the value of a point exploded from 0.25% in rate to 0.5-.75% in rate depending on the day and the lender. A rate quote of 6.625% with 1 point is conveyed as “6.625%” in headlines, but that extra point represents extra interest expense the same way a higher rate would. There are different ways to translate points to rate, but based on the average value of a point at the average lender, a “no point” rate would be over 7% today.

Highest in Over a Decade or Over Two Decades?

The last time I see mortgage rates over 7 percent was 2001. So that would be over two decades ago. But that 7 percent was Freddie Mac, and this 7% is Mortgage News Daily.

It’s not an apple-to-apples comparison because MND accurately factors in points to make rate comparisons between lenders comparable.

Making Sense of the Strong New Home Sales 

Brief August Dip in Mortgage Rates 

Earlier today I noted New Home Sales Jump an Astonishing 28 Percent in August.

The trend is still hugely negative, but why the bounce?

I discussed three reasons in GDPNow Forecast for 2022 Q3 Barely Positive Despite New Home Sales Surprise but just added a fourth after looking at mortgage rates.

  1. Existing home sales are far bigger and thus more important.
  2. August sales will start construction with a delay.
  3. For whatever reason, the numbers may not hove been a huge surprise to the model.
  4. At the beginning of August, mortgage rates dipped from over 6 percent to 5 percent. Rates did not stay near 5 percent for long, but perhaps thousands of people bought the dip.

Dip buying no doubt explains some of the bounce. Nonetheless it added nothing to GDP. 

And I strongly suggest negative revisions, reasons why coming up.

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Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago

Economists don’t get it. The economy is being run in reverse. There have been 12 boom/busts in the housing cycle since WWII (including Covid-19’s)

Higher interest rates impound savings, inducing nonbank disintermediation.

CBs’ disintermediation is not predicated on interest rate ceilings.

Disintermediation for CBs can exist only in a situation in which there is both a massive loss of faith in the credit of the banks and an inability on the part of the Federal Reserve to prevent bank credit contraction as a consequence of currency withdrawals from the banking system. The last period of disintermediation for the CBs occurred during the Great Depression, which had its most force in March 1933. Ever since 1933 the Federal Reserve has had the capacity to take unified action, through its “open market power, to prevent any outflow of currency from the banking system by forcing the banks to contract credit.

The 1966 Interest Rate Adjustment Act is prima facie evidence.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Some interesting things are happening and it looks like even more interesting things will be happening this coming winter.
Putin is getting desperate. He is losing the war and his grip on power. No matter how many oligarchs, corporate leaders, and generals he kills or fires, sentiment against him keeps growing. He is even calling up farmers, oil hands, the aged and sick, and throwing them into the mix as cannon fodder. People are attempting to flee the country to avoid the conscription.
He cannot back down. Instead he will lash out irrationally until someone finally takes him out. And he will attempt to share his suffering with the west.
As the west reduces their purchase of Russian oil and gas I expect more pipelines and energy infrastructure worldwide to be sabotaged. I expect more internet attacks on this infrastructure as well (pipelines, electrical grids, nuclear plants etc). He will be attempting to damage as much energy infrastructure as he can.
Again, I cannot change what is “likely” coming. All I can do is recognize the “possibilities” and react accordingly.
The world runs on energy. Its an easy target. One can only hope someone’s takes him out before he resorts to nukes.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Where’s the evidence Putin has or will sabotage anything?
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
The Germans did it.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Pearl Harbor?
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
No. Some German business leaders have been pushing to get back on Russian gas. However others in the German govt who know the true stakes wanted to remove that temptation and the best way is to blow the pipes and say nothing. Blame goes to the usual suspects. It’s just off Germany’s coast.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Does anyone really believe we will ever have proof of who blew holes in the NS pipelines? Any internet armchair sleuth can make any claim they want and it doesn’t mean a lot. I find it more interesting to see what people say and how it supports pre-existing opinions.
Does Putin stand to gain anything by sabotaging the NS infra? Who does stand to benefit? When I think about it, as much as it pains me to latch on to any popular insights from the ZH comment swamp, doesn’t the US stand to benefit the most from this act of terror? I’m American, don’t want that to be true, and it wasn’t my first inclination. But really, who benefits more than the US? Think of all those LNG ships out of Louisiana. They are secured contracts now, or might as well be, to service EU indefinitely, and their purchasing power just had a hole blown in it bigger than the holes in those pipes. Cha-ching.
billybobjr
billybobjr
1 year ago
Except that the president of the US said that the NS would be taken out if Russia went into Ukraine .
So the sabotage was conducted by a government and you have one government that threatened
and said they would do it . You can go and view the threat that Biden made if you would like but it is
very explicit that it would be done . So the US government threatened to shut down the NS and that just happened.
To attack soft economic targets pipelines underwater cables and so on is a very serious escalation and I am not
sure people are ready to suffer repercussions that this sort of thing could bring
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PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Believe what you want. It doesn’t matter to me. If you want to believe that Biden is doing a 180 and suddenly wants to help US oil and gas companies after spending years trying to shut them down, go for it. Not to mention screwing Europe and hurting the world economy even more. Yeah. That makes zero sense to me.
My belief is that Putin is desperate and he will do desperate things.
This is not about who has something to gain. This is about causing pain.
Regardless. Assuming that there are more attacks on energy infrastructure worldwide, how should we position ourselves as individuals?
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
You know for a fact that Biden is not running the Gov’t or the show!!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
And why should I care? I don’t. Apparently you are the one that “cares” about Biden. You spend most of your posts blaming him for everything. Then you say he isn’t in charge anyway. What a croc. All you do here is waste everyone’s time, whining and complaining about things you have no control over. To what end? Let me know when you have something to say that provides me with a decent investment opportunity.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
In fewer words: Cui Bono.
Base Camp
Base Camp
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
He is even calling up farmers, oil hands, the aged and sick, and throwing them into the mix as cannon fodder.
Even Eric Snowden?
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Base Camp
He granted citizenship to Snowden as a way of giving the finger to the US. That’s what dictators do. Till they get taken out. Then, meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Why did you say that?
We know that you don’t care.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
I don’t. But I had a bit of free time and actually read a few comments.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
West does the same thing, so I love your spin into trying to make it a negative!!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
My interest here is in Putin and what he is likely going to do when cornered. Lisa is correct. I shouldn’t have bothered responding about Snowden. It leads to a lot of useless comments. My mistake.
Putin is going to want to share his pain. He is going to try to force as much pain as he can on the west. Including sabotaging our energy supplies where he can.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Keep living in your deluded world, when Russia is returning more Ukrainian POW’s than receiving Russian POW’s prove that Ukraine doesn’t have many alive or dead Russians in their custody…
Former Polish Defense Minister, now a member of the EU Parliment, within minutes of the explosions put out a statement pointing the finger at the USA..He stated the US gave the Polish Defense Ministry a warning three months ago that the pipelines will be sabotaged..His conclusion was it was US sabotage!!!!
Gazprom has told Ukraine they are moving to shut off all gas going into and through Ukraine!!!!
dbannist
dbannist
1 year ago
For a real world understanding of what this will do to demand here’s an actual illustration.

I closed on a rental property in March of 2021 that rents for 1050. It was a 100k property and I put 25k down. My rate was 3.5% and my payment was exactly 490.That home today, in Sept 2022 would sell for 145k (very rapid appreciation here in NC) and all the houses just like it are selling for 145k. If I had to buy that home today I’d get an 8% interest rate, and have to put 36k down, 11k more than before. I’d also pay a monthly payment of 900 even, or 410 more than before. Rent did rise, but only around 100. I can rent that unit for 1150 now.

Monthly profit if purchased in 2021: 1050-490=560
Monthly profit if purchased in 2022: 1150-900=250

And that’s before the cost of maintenance. I do my own property management which is unusual. If a property manager was required you’d make nothing in 2022.Anyone who borrowed money to purchase a rental property will not be able to do so now profitably. Since most rental property is purchased that way, I believe there is a severe housing correction coming right up. I’m not selling anything because my loans are at the 3.5% rate and I don’t care about property prices, only rent profitability, and mine are extremely well cash-flowing.

Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  dbannist
Until you meet The Renters From Hell…
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
I don’t wanna say I told you so but a few months ago I had predicted a large hurricane hitting Florida when someone from Florida was making fun of the rest of the country for its drought, heat waves, etc etc etc. This is going to be the norm as climate change accelerates. The gulf coast coast and Florida are going to become uninhabitable by humans over the next decade because of repeated cat 4/5 hurricanes every year.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
We have one hurricane that hits the US this year and the global warming nonsense starts.
Back in 2004-2005, Florida was also doomed when it was hit with several hurricanes. And then they went over a decade with nothing.
dbannist
dbannist
1 year ago

One hurricane hitting Florida is perfectly normal. Large hurricanes have hit Florida for thousands of years. While climate change may be real, this is definitely NOT any evidence of it.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  dbannist
As opposed to all the times one data point proves everything?
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
It already is. The animals there are not humans… they are Florida Man.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Looks like Putin is going scorched earth.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
With FED QT and countries selling their long dated US treasuries to raise USD, it’s only going to get worse.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
The 50 years commodities bust is over. What might happen to Berlin if Equinor pipeline will have a HOLE.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
Look up how Moscow heats its buildings in winter.
Northeaster
Northeaster
1 year ago
7.25% with a 6.99% prime rate with 20% down.

For those comparing rates from years ago, home price was low, now we’re at all-time highs and still climbing. Sales have pulled back and homes are sitting longer, with absorption rates coming back to normal. Unless home price changes, real estate will be dead for those of average means. If you live in upper-middle to wealthy communities, it will still be competitive, but most don’t. Average home price in our ground zero community is $860K in Massachusetts, so while not Malibu, it’s still out of reach for most.

MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Northeaster
And credit card interest rates, for those that carry balances, are at 18%+ and moving up for those with good credit scores and 40% for those without. Property taxes on all that real estate is also only going up. Maintenance costs are also going up. Labor shortages make it difficult to fix/improve anything. Why deal with any of it when bonds are paying 4% now and climbing, no fuss. Got PUTS?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Northeaster
Prices will have to come down. The speculators also need to be rooted out of real estate derivatives the same way they need to out of commodity derivatives. Derivatives are at the heart of all the crises that have occurred since they were deregulated about 22 years ago.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Northeaster
I’m seeing a dozen price drops a day in my area. It’s having an effect.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Corporate bond crash ahead. This portends a deflationary crash similar yo previous financial crises. One can only hope it’s a repeat of 2008/2009.
There is still too much liquidity. Taking money out of the money supply would go a long way to lowering prices. So would re-regulating derivatives.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
On a different note, it is possible the demented US president, Cluster Fudge, is responsible for blowing up Nord Stream 2? He promised he would back in February: “If Russia invades…then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
FJB couldn’t even point out where Russia is on a Map, but we all know Hunter can. And Hunter sure as hell knows where China is.
Untold millions in pay to play bribes, including the BIG GUY.
They, and probably Hillary as well, were doing exactly what they screamed, lied and bribed the FBI to conclude Trump was doing.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
What does it matter? The only right question is how do I profit from this activity? That’s all that matters. It was a great day to execute covered calls on oil & gas companies if one was inclined to make a little quick profit.
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
If you are lucky, you will never be answering your question in the future.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
If you’re gop, the question is: how can I use this to fuel a tantrum?
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
The goal is to start a war with Russia in the next month, so covid-like lockdowns can be implemented and the election rigged again.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  RunnerDan
No, we already have the method for changing all the votes in November. Once again you’re well behind. Blue votes will be the only votes come November, except for the ones we don’t need to flip. You probably should not bother voting, you’ll just feel played like a fool once again 😉
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  RunnerDan
You tried to elect a clown and, unsurprisingly, lost. Endless tears won’t change that.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  RunnerDan

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KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I think the US did it. Doesn’t make sense Russia would do it and if they did it, why did they do it so close to Germany? Wouldn’t it have been a lot safer and easier to do it close to their end?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I know a good doctor for a lobotomy for you. The CIA warned Germany in the summer that leaks were occurring in the pipeline inside of Russia.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
The US repeatedly stated they would put an end to the NS pipelines if Russia invaded Ukraine.
You do realize the CIA is a spy organization. They’re in the dishonesty business.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
In the last week a lot of houses that had been pending sale in the last few weeks have appeared back on the market, in my area..
One of the houses was a recent built house!
Good news though if you list your property for sale near US military bases, it will sell quickly!!!
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
In our neighborhood low ~$325K spec, 20 year-old starter homes, a house went up for sale 2 weeks ago. 6 months ago, it would have had 10 offers in the first six hours on the market. Oh, and when we bought in May 2019 before everything went bat sh!t crazy, we overbid. Back then though, the appraisers were still doing their jobs and came back and said, nada! Gotta lower the sales price. That ain’t been happening in the last two years.
Gotta love 7.08% 30YFRM, baby! Keep it rising!
amigator
amigator
1 year ago
I would not believe any numbers coming out of the Real Estate world (Real is a misnomer). Remember a few years back the head guy was caught fixing numbers for years. Put it this way if these guys where giving you directions to a specific destination you would never get there following their instructions, NEVER.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
Given house price inflation, tax increases, and the interest rate jump; home buyers need to double what they budgeted for monthly housing expenses. A whole lot of home buyers just got pushed out of the market. October’s foot traffic will be telling.
twistertim
twistertim
1 year ago
Buying @ low prices and high rates is best time to buy. Only 2 or 3 truly good buying opportunities last 4o years.
I bought at 8.5% and my home market price is now 4X what I paid for it. A Nice little capital gain !
klausmkl
klausmkl
1 year ago
I remember paying 11%. We are spoiled. Get back to work.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
I have been looking at some of the housing charts Reventure Consulting on YouTube does and in almost every local real estate market across the US, it took 5 years to go from housing peak to bottom. For most areas it was a peak/trough from 2007 to 2012. If we assume ’22 is the peak and the pattern holds then we’re looking at housing to ‘bottom’ in 2027. Perhaps it may happen sooner but even if it’s a year sooner, that is still a very long trek to get there and that assumes the Fed doesn’t reverse course and starts lowering rates.
It is important to note that not all markets took that long to go from high to low. This is why I love Nick’s data analysis because its a market of houses not a housing market. Of course, I’ve given up on finding the right rental property, with US T-Bills and Treasurys at 4%, it makes no sense to get into rentals right now unless a great value opportunity arises.
If the Fed is serious about fighting inflation and getting housing down, then it will need to keep raising rates but we’ll see what happens.
klausmkl
klausmkl
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Your logic is flawed. Everything has changed. Prices will digest. Smart money has been diversifying since SP 479 high. The created money went into Real Property. Just Watch
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  klausmkl
Nope. Real Estate is headed down hard. Clearly you don’t understand the power of the Fed to wreck havoc and let loose the dogs of war. I’m sure there will be a few bright spots for real estate, there usually is but most housing will crash.
Watch and try to learn something.
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Generally speaking, the move down (in various assets classes, not just housing) tends to be a mirror image of the move up. As such, it would not be surprising for the move down this time to be much quicker than than during the last bubble (since the move up was much quicker this time).

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