Musk Calls Republicans the ‘Porky Pig Party’ Launches ‘America Party’

Don’t you just love a beautiful divorce?

A month ago Musk said he took his feud with Trump too far. Now comes his announcement of an ‘America Party’.

The Strategy

“The way we’re going to crack the uniparty system is by using a variant of how Epaminondas shattered the myth of Spartan invincibility at Leuctra: Extremely concentrated force at a precise location on the battlefield.”

A bit arrogant are we?

Hey, We Have a Platform

You Shall Have It

The Wall Street Journal comments Elon Musk Says He’s Forming ‘America Party’

“By a factor of 2 to 1, you want a new political party and you shall have it!,” Musk wrote in a post on X, the social-media platform he owns. “Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom.”

Neither Musk nor his advisers have filed paperwork to the Federal Election Commission that shows the formation of a new political entity named “America Party.” The title of the party is similar to the political-action committee he helped launch, America PAC. Musk spent close to $300 million in 2024 to help Trump and other Republicans, according to filings.

Still, Musk’s move to start building a potential third party is the latest effort by the billionaire to take on Trump after becoming one of his most vocal supporters. While a third-party candidate has never become president, they can act as spoilers and pull votes away from the two main parties.

“Every member of Congress who campaigned on reducing government spending and then immediately voted for the biggest debt increase in history should hang their head in shame!,” Musk wrote on X on Monday. “And they will lose their primary next year if it is the last thing I do on this Earth.”  

Trump fired back by suggesting he could unleash the Department of Government Efficiency and possibly target the government contracts of Musk’s companies. Musk founded and helped launch DOGE while working in the White House as a close Trump adviser. 

“No more Rocket launches, Satellites, or Electric Car Production, and our Country would save a FORTUNE. Perhaps we should have DOGE take a good, hard, look at this? BIG MONEY TO BE SAVED!!!,” Trump wrote Tuesday on Truth Social.

Musk Torches the Last Remains of His Political Standing

Also consider Elon Musk Lost to Trump. He Can’t Get Over It.

Musk—however naively—thought Trump was the man to back his vision for cutting government. Instead, Trump has only one agenda—his own. And Musk seemingly can’t let that go. 

“Physics sees through all lies perfectly,” Musk posted this week on his social-media platform X. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO’s political power in Washington—which just a few months ago seemed limitless—was always about proximity to the president.

What made him unique from other Trump advisers was the threat of a messy breakup and Musk going nuclear in a way few can—or have a willingness to.

Musk called Republicans “the PORKY PIG PARTY,” adding in an X post that it was “time for a new political party that actually cares about the people.” He even threw support behind a Trump antagonist, Rep. Thomas Massie. The Republican, too, was against the megabill. He was one of only two House Republicans who ultimately voted against the bill Thursday.

Naturally, Musk’s antics angered the White House on the cusp of a much-wanted, domestic victory. They also angered investors.

Tesla shares fell 7% in the hours after his tweets prompted Trump to publicly fume about cutting off government support for Musk companies. The president even floated the idea of deporting the businessman who became a U.S. citizen after being born in South Africa. 

Musk’s supporters had hoped the two had moved beyond their late May breakup after the men looked like they were trying to repair things. “I regret some of my posts about President @realDonaldTrump last week,” Musk wrote on X during the wee hours of June 11. “They went too far.”

“What good is Doge saving $160B when this bill increases the debt ceiling by $5T? It makes mockery of the work,” Musk fumed on Tuesday about his short-lived efforts shepherding Department of Government Efficiency cost-cutting efforts. “And how are we supposed to reach Mars if America goes de facto bankrupt?”

He isn’t the first business leader to discover that what made them great in business doesn’t translate in Washington. He just wears his frustrations so publicly. 

Musk’s ex-wife Talulah Riley—who was twice married to him—has seen those emotions up close. “He feels with incredible purity the emotion that he is feeling at the time, whatever that emotion is,” she told a BBC documentary. “He feels things very, very deeply. I’ve heard it said that he’s cold and emotionless, and that could not be further from the truth. He is the most emotional person I know.”

Tesla’s Global Vehicle Deliveries Plunge 13.5 Percent in the Second Quarter

On July 2, I noted Tesla’s Global Vehicle Deliveries Plunge 13.5 Percent in the Second Quarter

Tesla is struggling everywhere. Expect things to get worse.

“Expect things to get worse.” Well, that didn’t take long.

A marriage between the two biggest egos in the world didn’t last. Who couldda thunk?

Now let’s see ho much money Musk is willing to spend on his ‘America Party’. Any bets?

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Cosima Diamond
Cosima Diamond
5 months ago

I Think Donald Trump Is on the same level as Jim Jones, Anton LaVey, David Koresh, Alexandrian Wicca, Charles Manson, Alex Sanders, Shoko Asahara, Baron Samedi, Marshall Applewhite, Guede Nibo, David Berg, Grigori Rasputin, Warren Jeffs, Harvey Weinstein, Matt Lauer, Diddy, Roger Ailes, Danny Masterson, Jared Fogle, Prince Andrew, Duke of York, Bill Cosby, Marilyn Manson, R. Kelly, James Franco, Andrew Tate,

Cosima Diamond
Cosima Diamond
6 months ago
Cosima Diamond
Cosima Diamond
6 months ago

I Think Donald Trump Is “A child of Lilith

Cosima Diamond
Cosima Diamond
7 months ago

I Think Nancy Sidley Put a occult curse to Stephen Colbert

Harper Ross
Harper Ross
8 months ago

I Think The Republican Party is Party Of Pedophile

SavyinDallas
SavyinDallas
8 months ago

I went to the Rescue the republic rally on the Mall in DC last year with 2 of my sons. An unbelievable lineup of speakers, well known to most of you, and the great majority of whom were former Democrats (Jordan Peterson, Russell Brand, RFK Jr, Tulsi, Matt Taibbi, Jimmy Dore and many more) They all switched to support Trump because of the disastrous and frightening record of the Marxist Democrats. After 6 months of Trump, like me, they must really feel like fools now.

‘Lil Mr.
‘Lil Mr.
8 months ago

Well I applaud Musk’s effort but I’m not sure he’s the one who should take it on. It could just be another billionaires party. Not what we need. If he’s targeting small regions he could canvass voters for what they are looking for in a candidate and find that candidate. Otherwise voters will be afraid of getting the other side elected. Which brings me to rank choice voting. I think this is the only way we break to the 2 party stranglehold. What we really need is our representatives to be independent. George Washington warned of the party system for a reason. I think rank choice is the best option within the law. But if there’s pressure against it we may need a State’s Convention to get it adopted.

Jahfre
Jahfre
8 months ago

I thought Musk was supposed to be smart. He should have learned from H. Ross Perot’s failure and George Soros’ success that simply buying the Party of Democrats is the most efficient way to control outcomes.

Jahfre
Jahfre
8 months ago
Reply to  Jahfre

Or…Going back an example from my youth, the failure of libertarians for nearly 50 years to propel libertarian ideas into the government by fielding electable candidates at every level from town council to state governor…which is the ultimate measure of a party’s success. Instead, they have focused on the self-righteous bully pulpit of Presidential elections. What a waste of lifetime’s of work the LP has been for several generations of well meaning but politically inept libertarian individuals.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
8 months ago

I wish Musk luck in eliminating both the Democratic and Republican parties. Both rotten to the core.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
8 months ago

Ross Perot lives! My advice to Elon is-don’t waste money on a corrupt system with a closed door.

Rick
Rick
8 months ago

Musk will have as much success in politics as smarty pants Bloomberg.

The Window Cleaner
The Window Cleaner
8 months ago

Musk is an orthodox libertarian and so believes economic delusions and additionally does not understand the money system. The economic and monetary solution to our problems is the 50% Discount/Rebate policy at retail sale because the discount doubles everyone’s purchasing power by implementing beneficial price and asset deflation BY ADDING MONEY TO THE ECONOMY…THE HEADS OF THE ORTHODOX EXPLODE AND THE QUANTITY THEORY OF MONEY IS RESIGNED TO THE DUST BIN OF HISTORY. Meanwhile, with the FED simply creating the money (not treasuries) of the rebate aspect of the policy the commercial agent gets their full price so no moral hazard there and the interest factor, which isn’t actually the problem the libertarians and also the democrats love to demagogue BECAUSE THAT INTEREST IS ACTUALLY A PAYMENT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND HENCE A PART OF GDP.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
8 months ago

I keep telling you that the proper way to implement your system is to require at least 120% discount at point of sale. That way folks get what they want virtually free and have some new cash in their pocket to boot. Gosh, golly, what’s not to like?

The Window Cleaner
The Window Cleaner
8 months ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker

I’m sure that is a sarcastic reply, but until robotics and AI eliminate a high percentage of employment it would destroy the economic impulse which is unbalanced. Once that happens you’ll need to have the acculturation of a Paid Required Positive Purpose(s) Policy fill in people’s time that employment formerly did. As I have pointed out here before the beneficial and progressive aspects of every historical paradigm change have always been an aspect or aspects of the natural philosophical concept of grace. Balance, free flowingness and (higher) purpose are all aspects of grace. Finally, in the temporal/time universe you have to have a problem before you can craft a solution at least until you’re up to being conscious enough to self actualize grace on your own. Prematurely throwing people into the chaos of purposelessness is just the equally unwise flip side of domination by Finance’s monopoly paradigm of Debt Only.

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
8 months ago

We have got to the point where politicians do represent the people. They represent the party. Its easier for the rich to control the party than the masses.

Jojo
Jojo
8 months ago
Reply to  Rogerroger

This is a good point! One of the failings of a representative form of government.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
8 months ago
Reply to  Rogerroger

Once politics doesn’t exist, then we won’t have politicians working against the good of the common folk.

Jojo
Jojo
8 months ago

And that will only happen under an AI Overlord.

Jojo
Jojo
8 months ago

Once the AI’s take over and robots do all the work, political parties go bye-bye. Corporations go bye-bye. Budgets and money go bye-bye. Everything will be free.

Any further questions?

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
8 months ago

The problem is none of the parties are for anything but more legal immigration as long as it involves giveaways to corporatism via work visas.

whirlaway
whirlaway
8 months ago

Musk’s strategy is to win 2 or 3 Senate seats and 8-10 House seats and then become the “the deciding votes on contentious laws”. Interesting idea. I always wanted the Greens, PSL and similar left-wing entities to try this.

It could work in some areas for sure. But the donorCRAT Party has dozens of Blue Dog type House members and at least a few “rotating villain” Senators all the time. So, that makes me wonder if the strategy can succeed – other than to drive home the point that both the major parties are corporatist, right-wing parties, which most of us here already know anyway.

Laura
Laura
8 months ago

Musk won’t get the votes. In order to reduce spending they need to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The American people won’t vote to cut these programs. This is why we don’t have politicians running on these issues.

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
8 months ago
Reply to  Laura

Or raise taxes back to the level of before regan lowered the. But thats not gonna happin.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
8 months ago
Reply to  Rogerroger

It’s just such a shame we cannot afford whatever we want without levying income taxes.

Jojo
Jojo
8 months ago
Reply to  Laura

Or cut the ever growing “defense” budget.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
8 months ago
Reply to  Laura

Most Americans run their personal life the same way. Why cut lifestyle when credit is easy if you have steady work. How many 80k pickup trucks would be on the road if they were cash deals?

SavyinDallas
SavyinDallas
8 months ago
Reply to  Laura

Social Security is still somewhat self-funded. The military needs to be cut in half-at least. Just getting the fraud and graft out, and price gouging could get us close. The Empire is unsustainable. We need to end the Empire, close down most of the 800 foreign bases and focus on making Fortress America while rebuilding our economic base, get immigration under control and start to rebuild the social rot and cultural decline imposed upon us by the Marxist fellow travelers who seem to have obtained serious power here in America. If Musk does not focus on these and other critical issues, his third party will go nowhere. it will however, result in bringing back the democrats to power, though Trump seems to be doing a pretty good job on his own to achieve that result.

Jimbo
Jimbo
8 months ago

Not exactly addressing the topic, yet to me it hits close to home: There’s A Lot Of Honest Pain Out There
BY TYLER DURDEN
WEDNESDAY, JUL 02, 2025 – 07:30 AM
Submitted by QTR’s Fringe Finance
Yesterday, someone left a comment on my post about Zohran Mamdani that stuck with me in a way few
internet comments ever do. It wasn’t defensive or hostile—it was sobering.
The commenter challenged me, not to just oppose Mamdani’s ideology, but to think about why his
message resonates at all. Here’s what they said:
“You really ought to ask yourself: why does his message resonate? Why did Russia have a
revolution? People don’t wake up, make the espresso, make an omelet, look out the back
window across their deck, the lake, the boat, ready for a day of country living, and say ‘You
know what, honey… how about we start that revolution today?’ Nobody does that.
Revolutions are made by very unhappy people. Why are they unhappy? Mostly because
society largely doesn’t work for them… There is a lot of pain out there, and a lot of it is
honest pain.”

abcd
abcd
8 months ago

The Libertarian party, whose police is to balance the budget has been on the ballot for decades so people saying we dont have a third party with this goal are being ignorant. Musk hasnt done or said anything about ending dollar value debasement, ending the federal reserve and their 2% inflation target, ending govt or fed pushing down interest rates and mortgage rates with money printing, balancing the budget, paying off the debt, raising taxes on the rich, etc. Until he does, his record is still the same as the Swamp like Trump, who Musk helped elect, and the rest of the Uniparty Republicans and Democrats, so this new party idea could just be more of the same problems we already have.

Don
Don
8 months ago

Well, the Ross Perot third party jaunt got Bimbo Bill and hot lips Hillary into the Oval Orifice for celebrating a decade of the end of history and the last men after Bush’s Desert Storm 1 during romps with Monica’s BJs and a 90 day undeclared bombing war in Serbia, etc., setting the stage for peace at hand and the inauguration of Bush junior too, and 9/11 and Desert Storm 2. Funny how history never ends. . .

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
8 months ago
Reply to  Don

And we got a balanced budget. Thank Clinton.

Maximus Minimus
Maximus Minimus
8 months ago

I guess, Tesla deliveries don’t matter or are secondary. But the the mission to Mars boondoggle will also not happen.
It would be a desirable place of escape if Mars was an unspoiled garden of Eden, but as it is, we will have to survive on this trashed overpopulated hole.

peelo
peelo
8 months ago

It’s called scientism. It is the confusion of non-scientific things with (a misplaced reading of) scientific ones. It is the leakage of (science-based) personal charisma to persons and domains not qualified for that halo. Some of my most arrogantly supposedly scientific acquaintances are most guilty of it. The Enlightenment displaced their belief impulses from religion which they regard as superstition, fancying themselves as “objective,” yet they wind up being worshipful toward the wrong things in the most ludicrous and sometimes historically tragic ways. Musk is a great exemplar of all this. Many of these people are disciples of Ayn Rand’s “objectivism” which is a crowningly arrogant example of a sleight-of-hand transplant of supposed hard science (or at least a pose of that), actually, by sleight-of-hand, into “soft sciences” — actually a mushy-soft belief system/ideology — a pseudo-social science.

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The Window Cleaner
The Window Cleaner
8 months ago
Reply to  peelo

You’re quite right. The enlightenment was an incomplete zietgeist change that enabled the bathwater of prescientific religious dogma to be increasingly replaced by the monopoly paradigm for intellectual inquiry AKA Science Only instead of helping us self actualize spirituality/the natural philosophical concept and experience of grace. Religious dogmas are mistaking the map of spirituality for its actual topography.

peelo
peelo
8 months ago

The system being sclerotic is one thing. Crackpots as saviors is another.

peelo
peelo
8 months ago

I guess the quasi-religious or “I need a psychological daddy” impulse is running pretty strong these days.

peelo
peelo
8 months ago

He was going to focus on Tesla. Now he is going to overthrow the 2-party system and “give” us our freedom. By now we should have come to recognize vaporware when we see it.

Apron
Apron
8 months ago

As much as people like to vilify Musk, he’s a smart guy who proves by his deeds rather than rhetoric. I’ve thought for a long time that getting the incumbents out is the only way to save the country from it’s downward trajectory. Trump is not a traditional conservative and the democrats are downright crazy.

JGold
JGold
8 months ago

There’s only two parties that matter in the US–the haves and the have-nots.

For one of the haves to start a party catering to the latter, one must look at it with a jaundiced eye.

GotAFarmYet?
GotAFarmYet?
8 months ago

I think this idea came to late before DOGE it would have been possible. The name if you have not realized it is targeted at the right. The ones that are dissatisfied at how the current party is acting. it is more of a division tactic then anything else and will probably suffer the same fate as the Tea Party did.
The only real question is will it help the DEMS?

Webej
Webej
8 months ago

Both have giant egos and are narcissist.
But their greatest similarity is that they are CON men, not builders.

Nevertheless, I applaud any effort to expose the reified, calcified, stultified, sclerotic nature of American political culture where any notion of the public good is nothing but kabuki concealing the actual machinations behind small-minded partial and private interests.

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
8 months ago

I am afraid Musk is going to lose this battle with TACO.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
8 months ago

Stupidly named.
And because of that it will never work.
Visualize studying about the “American Party” in history books (sic) or on-line a couple of decades from now.
I don’t think folks will vote for it.
However it’s a good distraction to keep the Swamp alive and growing. .
I would prefer the Whigs or the Bull Moose (‘s).
Perhaps even the “Reform Party of the United States of America,” (the 18%-er’s)
Not the Central American Party or South American Party.
Didn’t want to name it the North American Party?
Lord, these folks are so very stupid.
And you can’t fix stupid.

Last edited 8 months ago by Lisa_Hooker
Jojo
Jojo
8 months ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker

How about stealing from Trump and calling it the MAGA party? [LOL] ZING for Musk!

Has Trump trademarked the name?

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
8 months ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker

We did have a “know nothing party” in bygone years. Maybe that is a good name?

SleemoG
SleemoG
8 months ago

The billionaires are coming to save us! They’re from the government and they’re here to help!!!!!1111!!!!!!eleven!1!1!!!!

Tezza
Tezza
8 months ago

We need a new teaparty-esque political party.

Augustine
Augustine
8 months ago
Reply to  Tezza

Haven’t we tried that before, just to end up with Ted Cruz?

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
8 months ago
Reply to  Augustine

The tea party just evolved into maga.

Augustine
Augustine
8 months ago
Reply to  Rogerroger

As Churchill said, Usonians eventually do the right thing, after trying everything else. That’s Winston calling them stupid as only a British snob could.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
8 months ago

Trump dismantled the 100 years dems Uniparty. Ilan wants to raid Trump’s party for the dems, to blackmail him for getting out. He is a new Kirk Kerkorian. It’s all about power and money. Don’t glue Trump’s R Party with the dems.
Don’t dilute him.

Last edited 8 months ago by Michael Engel
Michael Engel
Michael Engel
8 months ago
Reply to  Michael Engel

It’s a greenmail campaign for buying out at a premium price. Remember “Stormy Daniel” and her sleazy lawyer, who was jailed. Is Musk a Chinese spy ??

Last edited 8 months ago by Michael Engel
njbr
njbr
8 months ago

Musk is like Trump

All promise, no deliver

Promise the same thing for years and never deliver

Over-promise and under-deliver

The delivered product is always shittier

Take credit for others work

Treat their stupid ideas as the greatest

Have a deep set of convinced fans that will excuse all their faults and mistakes

Thin-skinned babies

Ann
Ann
8 months ago

I found this article posted somewhere, can’t remember where, but I kept it. I thought it was interesting and made me not want to buy a Tesla anytime soon.
———————————————-
https://angrybearblog.com/2025/07/his-rockets-blow-up-his-cars-crash

His rockets blow up, his cars crash
 
“Autonomous driving is the core promise around which Elon Musk has built his company. Tesla has never delivered a truly self-driving vehicle, yet the richest person in the world keeps repeating the claim that his cars will soon drive entirely without human help. Is Tesla’s autopilot really as advanced as he says?
 
“The Tesla Files suggest otherwise. They contain more than 2,400 customer complaints about unintended acceleration and more than 1,500 braking issues – 139 involving emergency braking without cause, and 383 phantom braking events triggered by false collision warnings. More than 1,000 crashes are documented. A separate spreadsheet on driver-assistance incidents where customers raised safety concerns lists more than 3,000 entries. The oldest date from 2015, the most recent from March 2022. In that time, Tesla delivered roughly 2.6m vehicles with autopilot software. Most incidents occurred in the US, but there have also been complaints from Europe and Asia. Customers described their cars suddenly accelerating or braking hard. Some escaped with a scare; others ended up in ditches, crashing into walls or colliding with oncoming vehicles. “After dropping my son off in his school parking lot, as I go to make a right-hand exit it lurches forward suddenly,” one complaint read. Another said, “My autopilot failed/malfunctioned this morning (car didn’t brake) and I almost rear-ended somebody at 65mph.” A third reported, “Today, while my wife was driving with our baby in the car, it suddenly accelerated out of nowhere.”
 
Braking for no reason caused just as much distress. “Our car just stopped on the highway. That was terrifying,” a Tesla driver wrote. Another complained, “Frequent phantom braking on two-lane highways. Makes the autopilot almost unusable.” Some report their car “jumped lanes unexpectedly”, causing them to hit a concrete barrier, or veered into oncoming traffic.”
 
But Tesla will take responsibility, right? Uh, no.
 
“Two years prior, the NHTSA had flagged something strange – something suspicious. In a separate report, it documented 16 cases in which Tesla vehicles crashed into stationary emergency vehicles. In each, autopilot disengaged “less than one second before impact” – far too little time for the driver to react. Critics warn that this behaviour could allow Tesla to argue in court that autopilot was not active at the moment of impact, potentially dodging responsibility.
 
“The YouTuber Mark Rober, a former engineer at Nasa, replicated this behaviour in an experiment on 15 March 2025. He simulated a range of hazardous situations, in which the Model Y performed significantly worse than a competing vehicle. The Tesla repeatedly ran over a crash-test dummy without braking. The video went viral, amassing more than 14m views within a few days.
 
“The real surprise came after the experiment. Fred Lambert, who writes for the blog Electrek, pointed out the same autopilot disengagement that the NHTSA had documented. “Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before the impact as the crash becomes inevitable,” Lambert noted.”

J K
J K
8 months ago

I don’t understand why people are so cynical. You have a Uniparty system that ignores the American people except TPTB. Why shouldn’t there be another party? He might not get everything right, but if he can start off with trying to work towards a balanced budget and away from Israeli/AIPAC control, then I think that is a good start. Not sure if he will do the latter since they are so powerful, but the younger crowd is less enamored by Israel and Jewish influence in our policies. Rightfully so. These wars and the pursuit of global dominance is bankrupting us. Gonna have to share the world and just deal with it.

If you all want something better, then get off your ass and do something instead of just typing big man words. Good luck Elon!

Jon
Jon
8 months ago
Reply to  J K

Here’s why I am cynical. People want a balanced budget. You can’t get it on cuts alone. You will also need significant tax increases. Nobody wants a balanced budget enough to actually spend their own money. Nobody. F*ck the future America if I have to sacrifice MY money. That’s the simple reality that Musk will never overcome.

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
8 months ago
Reply to  Jon

To me its more like everyone has their hand out for government money. Then complains about other people receiving government money.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
8 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Americans are morally weak. They can’t live within their means; they lack self-discipline. They are good at placing their obese bodies in front of an all you can eat or watching someone else exercise in spectator sports but not at tough budgeting. Why make painful decisions when credit is cheap? Maybe we need to revisit 20% prime to force some discipline.

Iron paw
Iron paw
8 months ago

By egos and big donations always come with a price. Just like government taxes and gives away money for “free”, his donations won’t be free either

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
8 months ago

Ilan deposited 250B in Chase. Chase has Ilan 250B cash. Chase IOU 250B to Ilan.
Chase deposited 250B in the Fed for safety. The Fed has 250B cash and IOU 250B
to Chase. Ilan has 250B in his bank account. Chase has 250B in the books to invest and JP has 250B in cash to “invest”. The total: 250B cash + 500B to invest in the economy. Or: 750B total assets minus 500B debt = 250B net. Musk pops: we are born to multiply. Reserves based money creation. Ilan behaves like a 5 years old child. He wants to cut debt instead of increasing debt. He is investing a new party to destroy Trump’s new party.

Last edited 8 months ago by Michael Engel
Avery2
Avery2
8 months ago
Reply to  Michael Engel

If he’s with Chase then he’s dumber than I thought.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
8 months ago
Reply to  Avery2

It’s about 2008 and 2020 money creation

john
john
8 months ago

Will American Party be like that short 1999 series “Freaks and Geeks” or will it even be remembered by anyone 6 months from now? Another Flash in the Pan?

billybobjr
billybobjr
8 months ago

Responsible spending only, HaHa. Any cantidate running on cutting programs

that the government has addicted the people to over the last 5 decades will not make

it through a primary. Musk party will have zero representation come the day after

election I happen to believe in a fiscal responsible government but the people are to

blame they have voted for the 37 trillion dollars of debt . Anyone running on cutting

spending on S&S , Food stamps Medicaid ,Medicare or defense will be demonized by

the government parites and their mouth pieces the MSM . People only want cuts or

higher taxes on other people, not themselves

Jon
Jon
8 months ago
Reply to  billybobjr

100% correct. I could balance the budget tomorrow as long as everyone but me was willing to take some pain. Of course, I am pure, so I should only be rewarded. Maybe tax cuts for people who live at my address.

texastim65
texastim65
8 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Just make your property an Allodial titled one.

Matt Beauchamp
Matt Beauchamp
8 months ago

Nothing will come of this. Will be a joke by October and forgotten. Like his Boring Company tunnels all over the place, like the hyperloop and all his other idiot ideas and failed pipe dreams.

David Heartland
David Heartland
8 months ago

I think that the Biggest Challenge that can be launched against the UNI-PARTY (D/R Party) is to remain OUTSIDE THE POLITICAL APPROVAL BODY, the Fed Erection Commission (oops, ELECTION). THEY will not allow it and if Musk were to do anything that can work, it would be to attract the NON-VOTERS (ME) to simply NOT VOTE. I know from experience that that will not work. So, what CAN he do? If the FEC will not put his party on the Ballot, Musk will just be spending money.

Doug78
Doug78
8 months ago

“Neither Musk nor his advisers have filed paperwork to the Federal Election Commission that shows the formation of a new political entity named “America Party.”

Till that happens then it is just words. If it happens then I wonder if he will capture the tech people in California who used to vote Democrat. If so then the seats he picks up would in California and in Democrat areas. He said just three or four seats will do the job. He only has to present candidates in those areas to avoid splitting the Republican vote like Ross Perot did in 1992.

Avery2
Avery2
8 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

The world would have been a much better place with Poppy!

Doug78
Doug78
8 months ago
Reply to  Avery2

Who is Poppy?

David Heartland
David Heartland
8 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

The ERECTION COMMISSION will not allow it.

TimW
TimW
8 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Filing #1898441 states that AMEP will be headquartered at 1 Rocket Road, Hawthorne, CA 78725—the same address as Musk’s rocket company, SpaceX, according to public records.

Doug78
Doug78
8 months ago
Reply to  TimW

California? Now I know the target.

BenW
BenW
8 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

It WILL split the republican vote, but it may also do so for the Dem vote as you suggest. To what extent will be hard to game out.

And the big question is how will it affect the electoral college?

I’d love to see the likes of Massie, Rand & Roy move over to an America Party.

In the purest sense, I would be for this. There needs to be a growing voice / tide for people that are very concerned about out-of-control spending & reasonable tax policy changes that are need.

Last edited 8 months ago by BenW
texastim65
texastim65
8 months ago
Reply to  BenW

Not sure it will matter in the electoral college for quite some time. You need an actual presidential candidate and then they have to win a state to get electoral college votes.

I suspect we’ll see changes in the senate and house far more quickly. As Musk said, just grabbing a handful of seats in both would matter since they are normally split very close to 50/50. So if his party got just 5-10% of the seats they’d matter enough to block presidential decrees from either party.

Last edited 8 months ago by texastim65
Jojo
Jojo
8 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

A well-funded 3rd party with a recognizable, charamisic candidate running under it could take a lot of votes away from the old Pubs/Dems!

Musk could also start giving away $1million checks in every state when elections come around to build interest.

“May you live in interesting times!”.

ScottCraigLeBoo
ScottCraigLeBoo
8 months ago

Maybe Im just getting better at this in my old age, but I can see right thru guys like this from a mile away. He has no political views, and what he does have can change to fit the weather. He has nothing to work with except taking 1% of his wealth, which is substantial (tho the Tesla is still a dumb car), and throw it at REAL politicians who fit his needs today. The good news is, after 60 years of ooohing and ahhhing over the Federal debt and government overreach, the supermarkets are still full, as are the gas stations, the electricity is still on, and maybe we are almost to the point where it really doesnt matter who is in charge anymore — the dream of the founding fathers.

Ryan lynn
Ryan lynn
8 months ago

Man jumps from 100 story building. As he passes the fiftieth floor he breathes a sigh of relief. So far so good.

Jojo
Jojo
8 months ago
Reply to  Ryan lynn

A lot can happen in 50 floors. Someone could put a trampoline out.

Ryan Lynn
Ryan Lynn
8 months ago

I don’t donate to candidates, but I’m considering a large donation to Massie. Isn’t it interesting that Trump went after Massie who was standing firm on fiscal sanity while accommodating Lisa Murkowski by shoveling pork her way. Trump has zero interest in fiscal discipline, and who he chose to attack proves it.

David Heartland
David Heartland
8 months ago
Reply to  Ryan Lynn

Come on Ryan, spend your money on your FAMILY, not these fucking idiots.

Ryan lynn
Ryan lynn
8 months ago

spending on fiscal sanity is for my family. When you say these idiots you mean Trump, and everyone in congresss pretty much except Massie.

Augustine
Augustine
8 months ago
Reply to  Ryan Lynn

All that’ll accomplish is guarantee a plush retirement for Tom. He’s a voice crying in the wilderness. A lone voice, regrettably.

Last edited 8 months ago by Augustine
ryan lynn
ryan lynn
8 months ago
Reply to  Augustine

whelp if you want anything to change you have to start with one. We sure as hell can’t afford to go back to zero, and under the right idiosyncratic circumstances that one could wind up as president. It happened in Argentina.

Augustine
Augustine
8 months ago
Reply to  ryan lynn

No, until it reaches a majority, it didn’t start at all. Argentinians were almost as foolish as Usonians electing their current president.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
8 months ago

Let these two horrible men devour each other.

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