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Producer Price Index (PPI) Increases 0.2 Percent, With Services Up 0.3 Percent

PPI service prices, which the Fed is more concerned about, are not headed in the right direction.

The BLS report the Producer Price Index was rose 0.2 percent in October but the details are unsettling.

PPI Final Demand Key Detail Month-Over-Month

  • PPI: +0.2 Percent
  • Services: +0.3 Percent
  • Goods: +0.1 Percent
  • Excluding Food and Energy: +0.3 Percent
  • Food: -0.2 Percent
  • Energy: -0.3 Percent

Despite declines in food and energy, the PPI was up 0.2 percent.

Goods Details

  • An 8.4-percent increase in the index for carbon steel scrap was a major factor in the advance in prices for final demand goods.
  • The indexes for meats, diesel fuel, fresh and dry vegetables, and oilseeds also moved higher.
  • Prices for liquefied petroleum gas fell 18.1 percent.
  • The indexes for chicken eggs, processed poultry, and ethanol also decreased.

Services Details

  • Over three-fourths of the broad-based advance in October is attributable to prices for final demand services less trade, transportation, and warehousing, which moved up 0.3 percent.
  • The indexes for final demand transportation and warehousing services and for final demand trade services also increased, 0.5 percent and 0.1 percent, respectively.
  • Over one-third of the rise in the index for final demand services can be traced to prices for portfolio management, which advanced 3.6 percent.
  • The indexes for machinery and vehicle wholesaling; airline passenger services; computer hardware, software, and supplies retailing; outpatient care (partial); and cable and satellite subscriber services also moved higher.
  • Margins for apparel, footwear, and accessories retailing fell 3.7 percent.
  • Prices for securities brokerage, dealing, investment advice, and related services and for truck transportation of freight also declined.

PPI Year-Over-Year

PPI Final Demand Year-Over-Year Details

  • PPI: +2.4 Percent
  • Goods: +0.2 Percent
  • Services: +3.5 Percent
  • Food: 2.7 Percent
  • Excluding Food and Energy: 3.1 Percent
  • Energy: -8.6

The year-over-year trends are inching up despite a massive drop in energy.

PPI Services

PPI Services are 67.2 percent of the PPI.

Trade, Transportation, and Warehousing are are 24.1percent of the PPI.

CPI Rises 0.2 Percent But Another Hot Month for Shelter

Yesterday, I reported CPI Rises 0.2 Percent But Another Hot Month for Shelter

The Fed will have a tough go of things if there is lack of progress on the cost of shelter.

Neither the CPI nor the PPI reports should inspire confidence in a mass of rate cuts by the Fed.

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eighthman
eighthman
1 year ago

This economy lacks various doctors, prison guards, cops, state troopers, ship builders, and a host of factory workers. I would expect that services/labor inflation is going to increase.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

I heard the economy is so bad, Kamala Harris is going to call Dave Ramsey for financial advice. Apparently she spent a billion dollars for a job interview, and the job fell through and now she’s 20 million dollars in debt.

Thats a lot of beans and rice. maybe she can get a 2nd job delivering pizza or something.

I mean times are hard, when a lawyer has to call Dave Ramsey for a little bit of help.

I think the show title is “Kamala Harris, Billion Dollar Disaster.” its on Itunes and all your favorite podcasting service.

TEF
TEF
1 year ago

According to DeepAI (?? reliability) GDP growth in 1929 was about 8% with a CPI of 0.5%. It appears the valuation decay time ratio for assets in1929 verses 2024 has a 0.35 to 0.36 proportionality ratio, meaning the peak to nadir time course will be much faster.

 http://www.economicfractalist.com/blog/

The easiest manner to observe the 31 October 5/10/10-12 day initial global equity collapse decay series is to look at a month’s worth of a daily gold chart. Gold made final highs on 30/31 October 2024 following a 3-phase 9 October 2024 4/9/6-7 day final growth fractal :: x/2-2.5x/1.6x peak. Day 7, 31 October, started at the high valuation level of 6 October and ended at the low of the day which began the 5/7 of10/10-12 day 3-phase x/2-2.5x/2-2.5x fractal decay series, analogous to the 9 Aug 1929 to 13 November 1929 13/27/30 day decay series. Thus far, gold has lost about 7 % in 11-12 days, whereas the more sensitive bell weather gold mining stocks have lost about 25% over 18 trading days.

The global asset-debt macroeconomic system’s overvaluation/excessive-bad-debt-burden collapse affects both equities, commodities, and, yes, crypto’s. Buckle up.

The Trump and Hoover 4-year administrations will have much in common.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
1 year ago

So what?

You are trying to use this meaningless snippet of data to say that there’s no deflation?!

Try harder.

You still haven’t explained where all the magical consumer spending money and credit is coming from to create this imaginary inflation you keep saying there is.

robbyrob Im back!
robbyrob Im back!
1 year ago

Ukrainian bonds have surged 12% in past month because investors expect that Trump will get a rapid war settlement, which is good for business. At least, in the short run https://x.com/Mylovanov/status/1857015405853782468

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago

Inflation you say?

This is a very nice video of a summary of all the inflation inside next year’s medicare premiums for all you on medicare. It’s scary crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzN5meKtyPI

But with Trump’s tariffs coming soon on China, I’m sure medicare costs will plunge as everything is made in America again! /s

“It’s turtles all the way down and inflation all the way up!”

dtj
dtj
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

In 2019, Medicare Part B was $135.50/mo. Now it’s $185/mo, a 36.5% increase. The deductible increased from $185 to $257, an increase of 38.5%.

At the same time, the quality, capacity and resilience of the U.S health care system has gone DOWN in the last 6 years, which is ironic because you would think a “pandemic” would have had a positive effect on improving the system.

TLDR: Americans are paying more for less, as usual, and this trend will continue into the future.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
1 year ago
Reply to  dtj

Is this that infinity inflation again? Where the price keeps rising like Bitcoin, and the things you get for it vanish like Coviid?

At what point to people give up this fantasy? When your “medicare” is $135,000 per month and all you get is a sticky plaster?

This whole narrative is beyond ridiculous.
Why can’t anyone do mathematics any more?!

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  dtj

the private healthcare industry (corporate medicine) ain’t about curing anyone. There are no patients. Only billable events that can be turned into recurring billable events via “treatments” also known as recurring revenue streams.

Medicine is broken and can’t heal itself…so we pay to be injured further by a demented system.

Stay away from doctors, they are no longer healers they are salesmen in white coats. Selling your health down the drain.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  dtj

October 2019 – 49.33 million people over 65 on social security (medicare?).
October 2024 – 55.86 million people over 65 on social security (medicare?).

That’s a 13.24% growth rate and will continue to grow through 2030. There’s no free lunch, someone somewhere has to pay for all of this and simply “lift the caps” and force younger people to pay more isn’t why young people voted for Trump.

If anything the DOGE chief is gonna slash and burn benefits but whatever happens, have plenty of popcorn and a backup plan like emigrating to Mexico (lol, the irony).

Data source: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quickfacts/stat_snapshot/

Means Testing Fanatic
Means Testing Fanatic
1 year ago
Reply to  dtj

In that same time frame the COLA’s for Social Security totaled 25.3%. This percentage increase is only 69% of the Medicare Part B percentage increase. How can all these “sum of the parts” price increases add up to the official total goods & services CPI?

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

If China cuts off agricultural imports from the U.S., agriculture commodity prices will go down. Winning!

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Yeah then farmers go broke and need bailouts on the backs of taxpayers. Every solution brings more socialism.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Price rises are not inflation.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

and money isn’t paper currency. is this a semantics lesson or economics?

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

For somebody who claims they don’t care about politics, you bring up Trump in every post.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

He’s in charge of policy now but if you prefer, I’ll write GOP. The whole point is you reap what you sow prayer man. I don’t want to commit heresy against your savior.

Last edited 1 year ago by MPO45v2
Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Hes inheriting a trainwreck, I agree.

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago

Ten year back at highs of June 2024.
Equity Markets should be backing down off the post election exuberance.
Gold been dropping showing some stress in risk.
Fed, no reason to hit gas.
USD has been strong.
Currency USD/JPY made a substantial retrace off lows.

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

Powell did a live interview today and basically said Fed will be sitting on its hands waiting to analyze what happens as year closes out.

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

would add ECB was out speaking about climate change 🙂
not kidding.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
1 year ago

Mish is better than Wolf.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael Engel

He surely is and is more open minded and welcoming of comments.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

Wolf delete those who don’t bow to Herr Wolf. He fights, insults and constricts commentators, fearing Googl. Trump might payback Meta, MSFT and Googl. Institutes have a short time to liquidate positions.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

The Fed should not be cutting.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

The central bank doesn’t get to decide, the market tells it what it’s doing.

The Fed cannot fight the bond market, otherwise it will implode or explode like an egg in a microwave.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Thanks for your analysis!

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