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Property Bailouts in China Are Coming, But They Will Fail, What About the US?

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With a major property bust underway, China will not be a global leader in growth.

Bailouts will not help explains Michael Pettis at China Financial Markets. 

Shifting Debt Doesn’t Solve Problems

  • Good piece by Houze Song on why the property bailout plans being proposed in Zhengzhou and elsewhere are likely to fail. The authorities are simply shifting debt around rather than resolving it.
  • I’d add that existence of large amounts of bad debt and overvalued assets means by definition that the recorded collective “wealth” of the system exceeds the real wealth. The gap between the two can be thought of as “bezzle”
  • That means that “resolving” a debt problem isn’t a matter of shifting it around or extending liquidity. Ultimately it requires writing down the debt and allocating the associated loss, so that recorded wealth in the overall economy is reduced by the full amount of bezzle.
  • In that process and for that reasons someone’s wealth must decline, whether workers, household savers, businesses, local governments, the central government, importers, or anyone else. That is why resolving debt is politically so difficult: someone must take the loss.
  • Trying to resolve losses and debt in the property sector by shifting debt around from one entity to another without anyone having to take a loss can never be a solution. All it can do is extend the amount of time during which to resolve the problem.

Payback in the US

Payback in the US for extreme property valuations will come in the form of much lower growth going forward.

Existing-Home Sales Fall 5.9 Percent, Down Sixth Consecutive Month

Yesterday, I noted Existing-Home Sales Fall 5.9 Percent, Down Sixth Consecutive Month

Key Existing-Home Sales Points

  • Existing-home sales fell for the sixth consecutive month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.81 million.
  • Sales were down 5.9% from June and 20.2% from one year ago.
  • The median existing-home sales price climbed 10.8% from one year ago to $403,800.
  • The median price is down $10,000, however, from last month’s record high of $413,800.
  • The inventory of unsold existing homes rose to 1.31 million by the end of July, or the equivalent of 3.3 months at the current monthly sales pace.
  • The median existing-home price for all housing types in July was $403,800, up 10.8% from July 2021 ($364,600), as prices increased in all regions. This marks 125 consecutive months of year-over-year increases, the longest-running streak on record.
  • Properties typically remained on the market for 14 days in July, the same as in June and down from 17 days in July 2021. The 14 days on market are the fewest since NAR began tracking it in May 2011. Eighty-two percent of homes sold in July 2022 were on the market for less than a month.
  • First-time buyers were responsible for 29% of sales in July, down from 30% in June and also in July 2021.
  • All-cash sales accounted for 24% of transactions in July, down from 25% in June, but up from 23% in July 2021.
  • Individual investors or second-home buyers, who make up many cash sales, purchased 14% of homes in July, down from 16% in June and 15% in July 2021.

The details are instructive. 

There were 125 consecutive months of year-over-year increases, the longest-running streak on record. 

Case Shiller Home Prices

Housing Starts Drop 9.6 Percent, Now Below Pre-Pandemic Level, Led By Single Family

Also note Housing Starts Drop 9.6 Percent, Now Below Pre-Pandemic Level, Led By Single Family

Home prices will either crash or bleed slowly for a long time. A crash would be better. 

Because the longer prices stay high, the weaker the housing market will be.

This is a problem of the Fed’s making. 

Free money from Congress exacerbated the problem, but absurdly low interest rates by the Fed for over a decade created the housing bubble.

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wmjack50
wmjack50
3 years ago
In the USA no problem –in 18 months the present administration has allowed one million illegal aliens into our country and our housing market—-At this rate of illegal entry the demand for housing should pick up—where is the problem—Oh
Ron Cataldi
Ron Cataldi
3 years ago
Reply to  wmjack50
We’re about 3 months away from Florida letting illegal immigrants teach in their public schools. Everyone wants the cheap labor.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
there is a thing called a jubilee. in a kingdom like china it is very doable. in the US, i’d be short commercial and office. residential will fall a bit perhaps where fuel is needed to buy a quart of milk. in cities and inner burbs the town houses will hold up. the new offices.
GodfreeRoberts
GodfreeRoberts
3 years ago
There was a national real estate boom but, thanks to houkou (residency permits), there is no national Chinese property market: thousands of local markets have their own rhythms and dynamics. Some cities, like Beijing, are expelling large numbers of residents (they’re moving to the Xioang An New Area), while others are offering free home ownership to attract residents.
At the policy level, Beijing has repeated, for years, that residential real estate is for living in, not for trading.
Now that home ownership has surpassed 90%, Beijing will allow imprudent developers to go bankrupt after they have delivered all the promised units.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  GodfreeRoberts
Opposed to money printing, and real estate for living, and few in the West know about these heretical ideas?
The CCP either has a communication/propaganda problem, or there is a conspiracy of silence in MSM and beyond.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Xi kicked the can down beyond Feb election. Biden gave Nancy & AOC a bear hug. Losing the radicals in Nov election is good
news for him. Blame the other side for the recession. Goldilocks, middle of the road til 2024 election…
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
Goldilocks is a barbaric relic.
kewtiepie
kewtiepie
3 years ago
You’re addicted to social media and gambling on Wall Street. You’re so distracted by the screenshots of women’s body parts that you’re barely doing what’s necessary! I’ll build up your Twitter numbers in a few days!
Portlander2
Portlander2
3 years ago
Shifting debt doesn’t solve problems
Isn’t that what bailouts did during the 2008-9 GFC–shifting the debt to the fed (its “toxic assets” balance sheet) or taxpayers?
It’s my understanding that a lot of this “bad debt” was “resolved” through the process of inflating all assets via QE. Eventually, all those underwater homes, CDOs etc. became “good” again, and restored to the owners balance sheet at full “market” value. You just need time for the rising tide of QE to lift all boats stuck in the muck. Yes? If that can work for the U.S., can’t it work for China?
There needs to be a name analagous to bezzle, to describe assets that have been inflated in this way. Bubblified? Sizzle?
Portlander2
Portlander2
3 years ago
Reply to  Portlander2
To clarify, with QE the original “toxic” assets (e.g. underwater homes) were not returned to their original owners (defaulting homeowners, i.e. taxpayers) but to the banks, who eventually profited immensely. In other words, taxpayers take all default risk while “too big to fail” banks reap the taxpayer-funded windfall. “Trickle up” redistribution! Yet, the moral hazard of “too big to fail” remains. And here we are, facing yet another housing bubble! Some how I suspect banks will end up the winners again. This formula can work in China too, yes? I.e. the State bails out its State-owned banks. But, I suspect the Chinese will do it in a way that keeps the masses whole. It’s a different system over there.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Portlander2
Yeah, I bought a foreclosure.
wmjack50
wmjack50
3 years ago
Reply to  Portlander2
the problem in China is the housing was primarily build for speculation—not for habitation–many buildings have no utilities and are falling apart
It was a giant ponzi scam that has burst taking banks investor developers etc. down—
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
What’s happening in China is a lot different than what happened in the US in the late 2000s. In the US, the debt is backed by a house. So, worst case scenario is the debt holder will sell the house and get what they can get. I know they didn’t always get 100% back, but they almost always got a decent chunk back. In China, many mortgages are backed by nothing or an incomplete construction project that will likely never be completed. They’re going to lose almost everything in many cases. One way or another, the government will be forced to find a way to complete the projects. Otherwise, the banking system will collapse.
Karlmarx
Karlmarx
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Think of all of the recyclable steel and concrete that can be used to pay off the debt!
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx
How do you recycle concrete?
Roy
Roy
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Concrete is smashed into little pieces. It is then used as drainage fill for under floors, roads, etc.
BDR45
BDR45
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
Concrete is also ground up and added to new cement and aggregate to make fresh concrete.
GodfreeRoberts
GodfreeRoberts
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Those stalled projects make up less and 0.02% of the national mortgage portfolio.
Beijing will see to the delivery of the stalled projects, never fear, though the developers will have to chip in bigly.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Great points.
Given that China was the economic engine that kept the world back from the brink in ’08, what happens in 2022-23 if China is tied up in debt knots? Another reason why I have a bad feeling the downturn will be worse than what it generally expected…
However, the far bigger problem lies in Mish’s analysis following Michael’s statement:
“resolving a debt problem isn’t a matter of shifting it around or
extending liquidity. Ultimately it requires writing down the debt and
allocating the associated loss,
so that recorded wealth in the overall
economy is reduced by the full amount of bezzle.”
The global debt problem is the issue here (both faux–zeroes on balance sheets, and real). Ya think now might be a good time to be 100% in gold, allocated among several countries?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I am exchanging 50% of my gold for 25% hopeium and 25% unobtainum.
It’s impossible to tell where this is all going and how quickly.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
“Rising mortgage rates, high inflation, low existing inventory and elevated home prices contributed to housing affordability falling to its lowest point since the Great Recession in the second quarter of 2022.”
Housing Affordability Falls to Lowest Level Since Great Recession | Eye On Housing
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
“Home prices will either crash or bleed slowly for a long time. A crash would be better.”
Commercial banks (Federal Reserve’s owners) much better capitalized / protected from housing this go round. Put me down for a drop on par (or worse) as 2008 – 2010 as Treasury / Federal Reserve won’t be so panicky. Paulson —> Geithner a disgrace during GFC.
Working way through Everything Bubble will be painful.
Portlander2
Portlander2
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
And Paulson’s role in 2008 was not a disgrace? Goldman seemed to come out OK, so what was his beef about Geithner?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  Portlander2
My bad.
I meant “Paulson and then Geithner a disgrace”
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Seeing a lot of price reductions… might be that the homeowners will handle things for us.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
China a complete mess … no matter how many times GodfreeRoberts says otherwise … hhmm, haven’t heard from him in a long while….
“Good piece by Houze Song on why the property bailout plans being proposed in Zhengzhou and elsewhere are likely to fail.”
Yes. Also, failed to mention 2 key points. 1) local governments derive most of their revenue from sales / leasing land to developers. With property sales crashing and developers on the ropes … good luck with that. 2) business NOT usual. When developers started to get in trouble in 2021 (Evergrande being poster child) most Western “experts” assumed Beijing would step in and smooth things over. Rather, Beijing made Evergrande’s billionaire owner (Hui) pony up HIS $$ first. Put all developers on notice.
Xi has been preaching “common prosperity” to narrow wealth gap And, with between 100 million to 150 million new EMPTY apartments as “investments”, time to pull the plug on Bubble.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago

As Alan S. Blinder in his book “After the Music Stopped:
“Credit is a coward”.

“The clear indication is that when defaults are perceived as
more (or less) likely risk spreads will widen (or narrow).“ “The remarkable
widening of interest-rate spreads in 2008 was one of the most stunning and
worrisome features of the financial crisis.”

“How do you
know it’s a bubble?”

Alan S. Blinder
gives a convincing explanation:

(1) The historical
data should be long enough to give us an historical perspective.

(2) The data should be deflated (using real prices)
(3) The data should be compared to the relative prices of other things.

“Using 120
years of historical home prices, the relative prices of houses in America
barely changed over more than a century! The average annual relative price
increase from 1890 to 1997 was just 0.09 of 1 percent. Then things changed
dramatically. According to the Case-Shiller index, real house prices soared by
an astounding 85 percent between 1997 and 2000—and then came crashing down to
earth from 2006 to 2012. This represented a large, long-lasting, and a sharp
deviation from fundamental value.” Pg. 32 “After the Music Stopped”

So, we know that housing is in a bubble.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
A slightly different take (excluding certain location issues, and changes in housing design–size, quality etc) there is no reason why real estate should ever increase more than the overall inflation rate. Housing (in bulk) is a long-life commodity in a competitive market. Increases in demand are met by increases in supply (with time effects in the adjustment process that might cause volatility). The net result, the ‘only’ factor in the long term truly affecting price is inflation. Speculation, though???…
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I agree. The misallocation and maldistribution of credit is due to bad policies. QE in conjunction with the payment of interest on interbank demand deposits artificially depresses real interest rates (artificially boosting asset prices). It also takes increasing infusions of Reserve Bank
credit to generate the same inflation adjusted dollar amounts of gDp.
It’s no happenstance. The banks are custodians of stagnant money. Unless bank-held savings are expeditiously activated, put back to work in the circular flow of income, a dampening economic impact is generated (secular stagnation). It’s stock vs. flow. All bank-held savings have a zero payment’s velocity. Banks aren’t intermediaries. Banks, as a system, don’t lend deposits. Deposits are the result of lending. An increase in bank-held savings shrinks gDp.
Dr. Philip George in his “The Riddle of Money Finally Solved” corroborates this peculiarity from a different perspective:
See: Alfred Marshall, Professor of political economy at
Cambridge, Cash-Balances equation, “Money, Credit and Commerce (London:
Macmillan, 1923), pp. 44-45

Where:

M= the supply of money
T= the volume of physical trade
K= the length of the period over whose transactions purchasing power in the
form of money is held
P= the price level of thigs included in T

If K is expressed as a period of time, then K is the
reciprocal of V. K is the length of the period over whose transactions
purchasing power in the form of money is actually held.

Link: Dr. Philip George (a cash-balances derivative)

Philipji.com 09 August 2019

“Money supply growth turns negative for the first time since
September 2006. It’s been quite some time since I have commented on this blog. Now something
important has happened. For the first time since 2006 the growth in Corrected
Money Supply (my measure of money) has dipped below 0%. It first went below 0% in June 2018 (using the latest
figures from the St Louis Federal Bank web site. The data keep getting revised
for several months which is why my previous post did not capture the fall below
zero.) though it was above 0% in June 2019, the latest I am able to calculate.

In September 2006 CMS growth fell below 0% and continued
to stay below until August 2007. The Great Recession began in December 2007. It
is to be seen if this time is any different.”
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Personally I use the Honest To Goodness Money Supply (my measure of money).
It helps when you create definitions in order to make your case.
Karlmarx
Karlmarx
3 years ago
This outlines what the politicians never understand. Debt ALWAYS has to be paid back. Inflation is one way to do it, and is generally the economy’s means of doing so when all else fails. Just look at any socialist/populist/dictatorial country and hyperinflation is always the end game. Argentina, Venezuela, Germany, Hungary, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Turkey, Mao’s China…. the list goes on and on and will likely include the US at some point the way things are going.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx
What saves the US is other countries are lower-hanging fruit, getting eaten first. It will be the last ‘apple’ on the tree–rotten to the core and filled with worms.
Esclaro
Esclaro
3 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx
No hyperinflation in the US for the foreseeable future. The USD is as strong as it’s ever been and going a lot higher. It will destroy the world economy by bankrupting Third World countries with USD denominated debt. It will also eliminate US exporting industries.

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