Real Interest Rates Are More Negative Now Than In the 2004-2007 Housing Boom

Meaning of Real

Real means inflation adjusted. But what is the best measure of inflation?

Home Price Not in the CPI

Home prices are not in the CPI. They should be. Economists generally disagree with me, but what good is a measure of inflation that excludes key prices?

The CPI ignores housing prices, what corporations pay for health insurance on behalf of consumers, what Medicare, and Medicaid pay for healthcare on behalf of consumers, stock prices, bond prices, speculation in cryptos, and only looks at the prices of so called “consumer goods”.

Q: How relevant is the CPI as a measure of inflation? 
A: Not very if at all.

The Fed has ignored those things at its peril.

The result was:

  1. A DotCom bubble and a DotCom crash
  2. A housing bubble and a housing crash
  3. An even bigger bubble now 

Capital Expenses 

The reason economists ignore housing is they view it as a capital expense. So what? Are we measuring prices or just the ones that allow bubbles to be easily blown?

It’s not possible to include prices such as stocks in the basket because they vary with earnings, but repeat sales of the same house and medical expenses are a different matter. 

Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE), the Fed’s preferred measure of inflation does take medical prices into consideration, but at the expense of even greater housing distortions. 

What the Chart Shows

The standard measure of “real” is made by subtracting year-over-year CPI from the Fed Funds Rate or 1-month T-Bill. 

Given that the Fed Funds rate is 0.06% and the year-over-year CPI increase is 4.99% the real interest rate is -4.93%.

But that does not include housing. The BLS housing component includes rent of primary residence weighted at 7.86% and OER weighted at 24.26%. 

OER stands for Owners’ Equivalent Rent. It is an estimation of what homeowners would pay in rent if they rented their own house, from themselves, unfurnished, without utilities. 

I calculated the CS-CPI by substituting actual home prices as measured by Case-Shiller for the OER component.

Most Negative Rates in Series History

  • Real CS-CPI National: -6.49%
  • Real CS-CPI Top-Ten: -6.72%

Both numbers are deeper into negative territory than in the housing bubble years.

The Case-Shiller housing data goes back to 1987. Year-over-year calculations start in 1988. 

CS National, Top 10 Metro, CPI, OER 

Home prices are up 111 consecutive months through May. The most current Case-Shiller data is from March. 

To use CPI data through May, I replicated March Case-Shiller data for April and May.

Given further housing price increases, it’s safe to assume that real interest rates are deeper than -7.0%.

CS National, Top 10 Metro, CPI, OER Percent Change

The BLS says OER is up a mere 2.11% from a year ago. Not counting home price increases in April and May, the 10-City Case Shiller index is up 12.40% and the National index up 11.48%. 

 Case Shiller Home Price Index National and Top 10 by City 

Congratulations!

Yesterday, I gave Congratulations to Chicago and Las Vegas, the Only Major Cities Whose Home Prices Have Declined Since 2007.

Those are not median prices. Case-Shiller data reflects repeat sales of the same house over time.

Case-Shiller 10-City Percent Change

Measuring the CPI

The above chart brings up another issue with measuring the CPI, extreme price variations. And the issue applies to many things, especially housing, health care, and education. 

Those in college experienced rapidly escalating tuition. Those not in college pay no college tuition at all. Try telling kids in college that education is only 3.03% of their expenses and see what they say. But that is what the BLS says.

The BLS takes all of the price data, weights it, then averages it all together, thereby dramatically undercounting inflation for everyone in college as well as everyone who buys their own health insurance. On top of it all, the BLS ignores housing as discussed above.

Target Silliness

The Fed then takes these absurd BLS measures of inflation, then decides for no explained reason that “on average” inflation should be 2%.

I have news for the Fed: 7% is far better measure than whatever the hell they are looking at. 

Stability

The Fed defends its actions in the name of “price stability” and actually wants to boost inflation even more to make up for inflation that was allegedly too low for years.

FOMO and YOLO

Housing and speculation are all the Fed has. And part of housing is speculation including FOMO, fear of missing out.

Zoomers prefer to call it YOLO. You only live once. On the YOLO theory, Dogecoin is a great buy.

Perhaps Dogecoin goes to $5. If so, hooray. If it goes to zero, so what? It’s YOLO. There’s always something else to speculate in and make up losses.

That is what the Fed is encouraging, either on purpose or out of ignorance. 

Take your pick, but the result is the same: Cheap money encourages speculation in assets. 

Real Hourly Pay

Despite wage increases, Real Hourly Pay Is Losing to Inflation. “Real” in that link means a 5% inflation adjustment not a 7% adjustment as calculated above.

The Fed and the Bank of China Both Act to Punish Savers

Inquiring minds may wish to consider The Fed and the Bank of China Both Act to Punish Savers

The Fed’s explicit inflation policy is nothing other than financial repression of the poor for the benefit of asset holders (the wealthy).

Sadly, people in the US are likely to say “Look at what China is doing to its people” without stopping to think the Fed is doing the same damn thing.

End the Fed

I have many time proposed ending the Fed.

I am often asked “Replace the Fed with what?” The answer is “Nothing”. We do not need a group of charlatans who would not recognize “inflation” if it jumped up and spit grapefruit juice in their eyes.

The Federal Reserve was created on December 23, 1913.  From 1776 until 1913 there was no Fed. 

We need sound money, not the Fed whose goal is to destroy money at the rate of 2% a year to the guaranteed detriment of the poor and middle class.

Understanding What’s Going On

Bubbles Bust

The Fed says inflation is transitory. The Fed is correct but for a hugely wrong reason. 

Inflation is transitory because the Fed itself has sown the seeds of another economic collapse.

Speculation eventually dies out. All bubbles burst. When that happens, the result is anything but inflation.

That leads us to the proper conclusion as discussed at length in Inflation Then Bubble Bust Deflation: A Video With Daniel Lacalle

Please play the video in that link. It’s a long one, but I tie many key ideas together including a discussion of deflationary age demographics.

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Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
4 years ago
I think it will be a decade of stagnant growth and stagnant inflation. People forget the economy was negative in investment before covid ( per Doug Short) and likely headed into a recessionary place. Covid hasnt fundamentally changed that and neither did Trump. 
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
TINA + FOMO + YOLO = FANGMAN + BLK
ThaomasH
ThaomasH
4 years ago
The Fed may discover, but cannot control the real interest rate at which it achieves it’s mandate to maximize employment and maintain stable inflation
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
On ending the Fed, my question is “Where in the world is the political will ever going to come from, for that to happen?”
It just seems very unlikely to me….even if the currency goes into the toilet…even if assets inflate 10X or even 100X from here. In a time of crisis, all the politicians look to the bankers for direction. They don’t have a clue. They don’t have a prayer of fixing any of this. A few of them have some understanding of the monetary system Most do not, AFAIK.
They always want some guy like Larry Summers or Hank Paulson to tell them what to do, and they generally do exactly what they’re told.
So to me the Fed is something I don’t like…but I need to accept that they’re going to be part of the world I live in and invest in.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
‘Don’t fight the Fed’ is a mantra of investing.
I learned that from a site I subscribe to that’s helped me make some good money via momentum investing.
It used to be free in the early 2000s but went to a cheap paid model (48 bucks a year) when scammers started lifting directly from the site and selling it as paid research and the guy who runs the site was told he couldn’t shut them down unless he was losing something economically (which if you are doing for free you aren’t losing anything)
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Thanks for the link. That one was not on my radar.
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
I can’t help but think how many people have been denied affordable shelter because of these fed induced housing bubbles . ” The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”, Spock quote  in the Wrath of Khan.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  thimk
Can’t have those filthy proles sullying pristine investment shelters, now can we?
Intelligentyetidiot
Intelligentyetidiot
4 years ago
I am often asked “Replace the Fed with what?” The answer is “Nothing”.
The Thomas Sowell answer to the same question:  “Well, it’s like when you remove a cancer, what do you replace it with? “
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
are you sure it’s a bubble?  i think it depends on where you think inflation is headed.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Our economy would collapse without constant FED stimulus. And when the eventual collapse occurs. And it will. It will be much worse since we could have taken corrective action decades ago and didn’t because the FED kept hiding the true state of our economy.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn

Sounds a lot like climate change…

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
“Cheap money encourages speculation in assets. “
I think it more or less FORCES speculation in assets…..for anybody who wants to preserve wealth. In my view the “inflation-leading-to-deflationary-event” (i.e. popped bubbles) is best hedged by owning assets…..but TANGIBLE assets rather than the kind they sell in the stock market. 
I suppose you can make a case for dividend stocks, but imho there would be little safety in any stock in a stock market crash from these lofty valuations.
So even inflated housing trumps stocks for me, and my RE has the advantage of being in an area that currently has a good demographic outlook. I would not argue against someone who says the housing market looks like a top. It looks like a top to me too…but I’m not 100% convinced that a correction in my local market would be anything major.
The threat to RE investors here who are trying to do cash flow rentals is rising costs…..higher valuations and higher tax rates…..coupled with rising costs for maintenance and probably insurance too, although that hasn’t really taken off yet. I think it’s harder to flow cash now here than any time since the late 1980’s.
Gold and silver are still more of an insurance policy against total currency collapse  than a hedge against inflation or deflation in my opinion…
If you go back and look at 2008…..gold dropped precipitously when the margin calls were coming in. The best time to have bought it would have been after it bottomed, which if I remember right  ( I’m talking from memory, not looking a the chart right now) metals bottomed quickly and started to recover before most anything else.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I would amend Mish’s observation of “Cheap money encourages speculation in assets” slightly. It’s not the cheapness of the money (ie low interest rates) but rather that the money isn’t sound because of constant inflation + increased money supply. So you can no longer just store it under a mattress/in a bank and get full value for it in 10 or 20 years.  Thus you must buy some kind of tangible asset (stocks, RE, precious metals, art&collectibles etc) if you hope to get full value for your money.
For RE, the mantra has always been location, location, location. Your area looks great. Many other areas do not. The same goes for stocks. Some stocks look great even now, many don’t. The key in both RE/Stocks and even art/collectibles has always been figuring out which will be winners and which will be losers.
I bought gold in 2007ish for around 800/oz when the house crash first started happening here in Florida (ground zero) and I was reading that gold was gonna rise because of the crash of Lehman etc. That turned out to be the correct call because it more than doubled in the couple of years and I made a lot of money. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I started buying gold in 2004…and that run was one of my better calls too. 
njbr
njbr
4 years ago
A time to celebrate…
….India’s Health Ministry reportedly said Wednesday that it had found around 40 cases of the delta plus variant with the K417N mutation. The ministry released a sement on Tuesday in which it said that INSACOG, a consortium of 28 laboratories genome sequencing the virus in India during the pandemic, had informed it that the delta plus variant has three worrying characteristics.

These are, it said: increased transmissibility, stronger binding to receptors of lung cells and the potential reduction in monoclonal antibody response which could reduce the efficacy of monoclonal antibody therapy given to some hospitalized Covid patients.

India’s health ministry said it had alerted three states (Maharashtra, Kerala and Madhya Pradesh) after the delta plus variant was detected in genome sequenced samples from those areas….

….It noted that, as of June 16, cases of the delta plus variant had also been identified in the U.S. (83 cases at the time the report was published last Friday) as well as Canada, India, Japan, Nepal, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Switzerland and Turkey…..
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
I’m sure you could find scary statistics about the common cold. This years cold is more transmissible than last years etc…
When we have a real pandemic. Not one driven by political goals. People will ignore it.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
…and you’ll be right out front, screaming about how it’s all a conspiracy, just like this time.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
As long as the vaccine works on it, I have no worries.  Let the skeptics dance with Darwin, if they must.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Ivermectin works just fine. Don’t need to take the risks associated with the vaccines.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
“Some of the sideeffects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury”.  
Yeah, I’m going to go with a mildly sore arm for a couple days.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
Conclusions? Recommendations? Is there a reason to be worried or not or is it just a piece of news?
Jackula
Jackula
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Something to keep an eye on. This delta plus variant supposedly also has the S. African variant traits which made the mrna vaccines less effective. No worries here till I actually see hospitalizations and deaths spike way the hell up from where they are now.

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