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Seven States End All Federally Funded Covid-19 Unemployment Benefits

Call to End Benefits 

Last Friday, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Called for End to Extra $300 a Week in Unemployment Benefits.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is calling for Washington to immediately stop paying out-of-work Americans an extra $300 a week in unemployment benefits, saying the boost in government aid is giving some recipients less incentive to look for work.

The business group said Friday that the supplemental unemployment benefit, part of the Biden administration’s efforts to support the pandemic-ravaged economy, results in about one in four recipients taking home more in unemployment pay than they earned when they were working.

“The disappointing jobs report makes it clear that paying people not to work is dampening what should be a stronger jobs market,” said Neil Bradley, the Chamber’s executive vice president and chief policy officer. “We need a comprehensive approach to dealing with our workforce issues and the very real threat unfilled positions poses to our economic recovery from the pandemic.”

Missouri, Tennessee End Federal Pandemic Payments

Today, Missouri, Tennessee Join U.S. States Cutting Pandemic Payments

“While these benefits provided supplementary financial assistance during the height of COVID-19, they were intended to be temporary, and their continuation has instead worsened the workforce issues we are facing,” Missouri Gov. Mike Parson said in announcing the decision on Tuesday.

The extra sum [$300 in pandemic assistance] more than doubles Tennessee’s maximum weekly benefit of $275.

Seven States

Missouri and Tennessee join Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Montana, and South Carolina in terminating the benefits they blame for slowing hiring.

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The Chamber of Commerce blamed the payments for creating a lack of incentive to work.

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St. Louis Fed President James Bullard at least partially agrees.

Rural labor markets are very different from urban ones,” he said, and some cities are more expensive than others. The same $300 “incentivizes people very differently.”

I do  not see this as a rural vs urban issue. 

Rather it’s the moral hazard of paying some people in some states or areas more for not working than working.

That was my key objection from from the beginning.

Mish

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Rbm
Rbm
5 years ago

328 million situations out there.   The media and politicians generalize info and shape to fit their agendas.  Example.  Were lucky to win the lottery for the kid to go to the boys and girls club over the summer.  
My take is it might slow their economies down.   Lack money coming in from work or aid leads to less money to spend.  May force more people on to welfare etc.  

ps. Funny I dont see these business giving up their ppp money.  
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
How close is California becoming a rust-belt I wonder. 
bubblelife
bubblelife
5 years ago
I don’t think anyone said it isn’t a significant story. You were criticizing Mish. It’s his blog so being more courteous might elicit a different reception. The big picture question: the pipeline software was hacked so how vulnerable are the systems that control our financial markets and power grids?  Will there be retribution for the hack?
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
My only observation is that mom&pops that are hurting are not in much of a position to pay people a living wage right now.
IN our business we can’t raise our fees on most patients, because we have to deal with their PPO insurance, which has the fees set by the corporations.  Even traditional 80/20 insurance has caps, which are disguised as “UCR’s” (usual and customary fees), which are actually just a made up number the corporate insurers pull right out of the air.
In order to give raises, you have to be able to pass the cost on to the consumer. The providers have already been squeezed for years now, and there isn’t much juice left to squeeze there. That’s the story in all of non-corporate healthcare, what there is left of it.
Cocoa
Cocoa
5 years ago
If that shitty amount of money can even get close to a minimum wage job salary, I would say forget it too. That’s really sad, as even with supplement it’s just beer money. And don’t forget, if you have a low paying job you also get taxes, disability, unemployment taxes pulled out so it’s probably safe to say sitting at home and laying low is a better option
Dutoit
Dutoit
5 years ago
There is something that I don’t understand : if it is federal money, how can states stop it ? If they can do that, could not they ask to pay less federal taxes ?
Cocoa
Cocoa
5 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
States manage the money and distribute it. You get unemployment from Cal EDS in my state
QTPie
QTPie
5 years ago
Florida appears to be effectively ending it as well as the governor indicated he will likely no longer continue extending the waiver for Florida’s normally extremely strict job search requirements past the end of this month.
StickToEconomics
StickToEconomics
5 years ago
Inflation running hot.  9.2% annualized.  
I’m so glad we’ve got Biden; isn’t it great we no longer have mean tweets!!!
The Trumpistas warned you about this; but Trump said mean things.
Dr. Manhattan23
Dr. Manhattan23
5 years ago
An individual making the supplemental unemployment amount only “makes” about 17500 in 52 weeks in either the 10% tax bracket if they are married, and 12% if they are single. So employers are complaining that they cant compete with the “wages” of the supplemental UI. I think I mentioned in an earlier post that employers may not be paying enough, and that still seems to be the case. Inflation and the cost of goods is very high. The extra 17500 is about 8.41 an hour. Not exactly lighting the world on fire. Tennessee has a maximum of 275 a week. A restaurant worker may not qualify for the maximum. Let’s see if people run back to work because they arent making 8.41 an hour sitting at home. They might, but I think this issue is more complex than it seems
Shutdowns were self imposed. This is a problem of their own making
whirlaway
whirlaway
5 years ago
“The CEOs of the 100 companies with the lowest median wage for workers saw their pay rise by 29 percent last year, while their frontline workers’ pay decreased by 2 percent. The disparities are staggering:
— Hilton CEO Christopher Nasetta raked in $55.9 million, while median pay at his company dropped to $28,608
— Chipotle CEO Brian Niccol received $38 million, nearly 3,000 times more than the company’s median salary of $13,127
— Yum Brands (parent company of KFC, Pizza Hut, and Taco Bell) CEO David Gibbs took home $14.6 million while the company’s median pay was $11,377
This is a disgrace. While the essential workers at these companies showed up to work in person every day, risking their health and safety for low wages and skimpy benefits, these millionaire CEOs were raking in millions of dollars while comfortably working from home in their mansions. You can’t tell me that the CEO of Chipotle worked nearly 3,000 times harder than frontline Chipotle workers last year. It’s far past time to rein in CEOs exorbitant and unjust compensation.”
Dr. Manhattan23
Dr. Manhattan23
5 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
This is a different issue in my opinion. This is a discussion on income inequality, which is not a discussion I want to get into and wasn’t my intended point. If the board approves it, then they approve the compensation. I don’t think it’s the governments job to stick its nose into any individuals agreement on compensation and I wont get into the issues surrounding compensation and perverse incentives. I wouldn’t want the govt dictating compensation to anyone anywhere. I do agree with @mish that there is moral hazard involved, however no additional moral hazard than seeing airlines buyback $50 billion in shares since 2013, then ask for a $50 billion bailout and receive it
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
5 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
What’s the fascination with CEO pay?
How do you feel about athletes, actors, musicians, super models, reality TV stars etc? Every one of those top ones also makes 20-100+ million while the schleps who serve hotdogs/beer at the games, do their makeup, roadies etc make peanuts. If you are reigning in CEO pay you gotta reign in all these people too.
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Not to mention that 9-year old Ryan Kaji made $30 million in 2020 on youtube. He is number one in revenue. Having seen a couple of his tubessaying CEO’s are underpaid sounds flat.
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I meant CEO’s being overpaid
whirlaway
whirlaway
5 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
The attention on CEO pay is mainly because they directly determine the wages of the people who work in their corporations.   But you are right that in general, we have a top-heavy “winner take all” society and the CEOs are just the most visible and/or the most ugly aspect of the phenomenon.  Still wonder why our society is falling apart??!!
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
At some point the free money must stop and we are at that point. If certain states protest then they can pay from their own taxes. The states that have raised the restrictions are doing very well and Covid has been beaten down enough that it no longer justifies lockdowns. Unfortunately an industry of “influencers” has grown up who make their money on Covid fear and they will not give up their newfound status and income streams easily. The vast majority of people have jobs and do not like having their taxes go to pay outs when there is no longer a reason to do so. Biden for some reason believes that giving out free money gets the Democrats votes. I think that it pushes people who work away from the Democrats.
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Finland is the only country to date that used a  nationwide randomized control trial of a basic-income program. 
There was a very small positive impact on employment however the recipients were happier and scored higher on life satisfaction. 
Onni4me
Onni4me
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
The group was elected in a form of lottery. I actually know one person to receive that extra money which was not that much and she was happy to spend it in whatever. Those receiving this “basic-income” were probably most unable to work anyway so the benefit was marginal from the beginning. In Finland the social welfare is about 570 euros per month for someone living alone and on top of that they pay your rent or living costs. So it could well be around 1000-1300 euros a month total which is not much but very close to the lowest salaries. So no incentive to work if you are an alcoholic, old or otherwise physically challenged. 
It would probably work better if you were single young person looking for a job. The system is awkward in the way that if you work one hour a month and report it, they will instantly stop all benefits, you will have to wait for your pay report (normally after the month you worked) to reclaim your benefits which could take up to 2-3 weeks waiting in which state you’d be behind your rent and your fridge would be empty.  
It would work better if it would be a lump sum something like 800-1000 euros (sort of level one can exist in Finland) with no obligations to report or file earnings. The income level would be checked every 3 months or so and benefits cut if certain level would have been reached. But a such reasonable system will never take place since so many social workers and institutions fleece off from the unemployed. 
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  Onni4me
Good to hear from someone who has more and direct knowledge of the study. I am not sure if the study determined if basic income is worthwhile or not. If it as you say best for a young, healthy person then those are the people who are best able to find a job quickly in any case. Basic income then seems be be better for the less young and less healthy. I live in France and the welfare system is  too generous but on the other hand the economic system has been durably stuck at 8-10% unemployment for the last 30 years. 
njbr
njbr
5 years ago
It’s all political theater.
The current unemployment rates in the mentioned states is generally less than 1 or 2 percentage points of the pre-pandemic 2019 average unemployment rate.  Are you willing to BS me by saying that the all of the businesses in these states are all up and running to 98% of the 2019 rate?  
Giant swathes of these workers are not living the high life on unemployment.
(Unemployment rates–March 2021 vs 2019)
Missouri 4.2 vs 3.3
Tennessee 5.0 vs 3.4
Alabama 3.8 vs 3.0
Arkansas 4.4 vs 3.5
Mississippi 6.3 vs 5.5
Montana 3.8 vs 3.6
South Carolina 5.1 vs 2.8
whirlaway
whirlaway
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr
Well, didn’t you know that poor people can live the high life on $300 a week, but raising the capital gains tax rates even a little bit would make the rich lose their will to live??!!   LOL
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr
It’s not 300 a week UI. It’s an EXTRA 300 a week UI on top of what they would normally get on UI.
This is why many now make more on UI than they ever did working.
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr
What is U-6 ? That has been a better measure. The folks that say unemployment is low and these benefits are no longer necessary are also the ones that claim U-6 is more accurate when it suits their argument. You cant have it both ways 
whirlaway
whirlaway
5 years ago

“…  paying some people in some states or areas more for not working than working.”  So, that means they should be paid more for working than the starvation-level benefits that they get as UI payments.  

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
5 years ago
I see nothing wrong with free money. It isnt like the economic system was working anyway when bankers were getting free money. As long as speculation is allowed into markets that interfere with true supply and demand then free money is a must.
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
5 years ago
A few people here said the ransomware attack on Colonial  was a non story. I’ll just leave this here. 
Call_Me
Call_Me
5 years ago
Surprised it took this long for some stations to be running dry, would have thought there would have been more panic buying over the weekend.
Accommodations in several areas have been made to ease the supply crunch and the company’s contention remains that physical pipelines are sound and most of the infrastructure will return to service this week (have you read different?).  Agreed that it is a big story, however it is being covered by a substantial number of print and broadcast media and you complained that Mish wasn’t writing about it on a Saturday night.  What insight or information do you think he might be able to add to the narrative that the AP isn’t providing?
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Idée fixe
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
5 years ago
ipso_facto
ipso_facto
5 years ago
Does welfare ever work?
whirlaway
whirlaway
5 years ago
Reply to  ipso_facto
“Busting the Myth of ‘Welfare Makes People Lazy’ “
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
5 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
You do realize that the study was entirely done in Mexico and not here or any other 1st world country. So there is clearly a bias in place because of that. The researchers would need to do similar studies here and in Canada and most of Europe to be able to make any real claims about busting the myth.
From my personal experiences (US and Canada), once you get on Welfare for more than a couple of months you don’t come back. I know whole generations that are on welfare from grandparents on down to grandkids (once they reached 18). It’s very hard to break that cycle because kids mostly grow up to emulate their parents and if the parents have never worked or demonstrated the value of working the kids don’t get that value and the cycle continues.
whirlaway
whirlaway
5 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
There are studies done about the US and Europe as well.  You just need to look for them.

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