In Arizona, Republicans bucked Trump and Kari Lake, and try to block another push to repeal abortion ban.
Abortion Battle in a Swing State
Please note Arizona Republicans Block Another Push to Repeal Abortion Ban
Arizona has become ground zero in the fight for abortion access after the state Supreme Court reinstated a 160-year-old law earlier this month banning nearly all abortions. The ruling has given some momentum to Democrats in a state that could decide the White House and both chambers of Congress.
Abortion in Arizona has been allowed through 15 weeks of pregnancy under a law the GOP-controlled state legislature passed in 2022. The state’s high court said in its April 9 decision that the recent law doesn’t override one dating to 1864—before Arizona was a state—that banned abortion throughout pregnancy except in lifesaving situations.
Polling shows the majority of Americans and Arizonans aren’t aligned with Republicans on abortion. A Wall Street Journal poll from March found Arizona voters were most likely to say that they wouldn’t support a candidate they disagreed with on abortion. In the poll, which was conducted before the Arizona ruling, the majority of voters there said they supported access to the procedure—and more voters said they backed President Biden’s approach than that of Trump, the presumptive GOP presidential candidate.
WSJ Arizona Poll
Politically and Morally Stupid
Telling someone who is raped they have to carry a small mass of dividing cells to full term is politically and morally stupid.
That is what the nation believes and in this case what Arizona overwhelmingly believes.
I wonder what the percentage would have been if instead of Biden, the abortion question pertained to 15 weeks. That’s a reasonable time for someone to make a decision.
Last November, 75 percent of Ohio voters approved a constitutional amendment that ensures access to abortion and other forms of reproductive health care.
Open Democracy reported that In Virginia, Democrats held on to their majority in the State Senate and gained a majority in the House of Delegates, despite strong campaigning by the state’s Republican governor Glenn Youngkin for a Republican majority in both houses, with the goal of passing an abortion ban.
That is precisely what Youngkin deserved for being so politically out of touch. Had he taken a moderate position, he likely would have won control.
Nebraska Sen. Pete Ricketts Donates $500,000 to Abortion Ban Ballot Initiative
UPI reports Nebraska Sen. Pete Ricketts Donates $500,000 to Abortion Ban Ballot Initiative
Apart from Rickett’s donation to help end abortion in Nebraska, a competing ballot initiative that seeks to protect abortion for up to 24 weeks could also be on November’s election ballot.
Seven other states — California, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Montana, Ohio and Vermont — have made abortion legal in their state constitutions.
A bunch of Neandertal males want to impose their views on the rest of the nation when even voters disagree in Republican states like Ohio, by overwhelming margins.
This folks is how you lose elections. It certainly cost Republicans votes in the midterm elections and it could happen again.
Is Trump Losing Control?
The Wall Street Journal reported Donald Trump asked Arizona to change course on the hot-button issue.
In a sign of the political ramifications of the [Arizona] decision, Trump and Kari Lake, the expected GOP Senate candidate, both said the outright ban goes too far and called on the legislature to remove it. Both have previously said they oppose abortion. Trump has touted his nomination of three justices to the U.S. Supreme Court who helped overturn Roe v. Wade, and Lake had praised the ban. In recent days, Lake has called some GOP lawmakers and urged them to vote to roll back the measure and offered them support for doing so, a person familiar with the matter said.
Despite the plea from Trump and Lake, and the constitutional amendment in Ohio, Arizona Neandertals went ahead anyway.
Trump’s VP Pick
Trump needs to immediately rule out as a VP candidate any abortion hardliner. At the top of the exclusion list is Tim Scott. He is in favor of a banning abortions nationally.
That would also rule out Representative Elise Stefanik of New York and Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio. Vance called the Ohio constitutional amendment a “gut punch”. Also it would put into play a replacement election for Senator. And Finally Vance is not a woman and that is what Trump needs most on the ticket to win.
Put South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem on the discard pile as well. In 2023, CBS News reported Gov. Kristi Noem says she would “nudge” GOP governors, including Florida’s Ron DeSantis, to do more to restrict abortion.
Politically speaking those are all losers.
Spotlight Tulsi Gabbard
The only one on Trump’s short list who could make a big difference with women in general, especially suburban housewives is Tulsi Gabbard.
Wikipedia notes “Gabbard has generally supported legal abortion through the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, though her views on abortion have changed over time. When young, Gabbard opposed abortion.”
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner: Female, young, a moderate view on abortion.
Trump’s base would howl, but what are they going to do? Vote for Biden in protest?
Appealing to abortion Neandertals is a weak setup. However, Biden is so bad, Trump could win anyway. But if Trump wants to win and win big, Tulsi would be an extremely smart pick.
Trump Trial in New Yok Begins This Week
On April 14, I commented Trump Trial in New Yok Begins This Week, Expect a Media Circus
Can Trump Get a Fair Trial?
That’s actually the wrong question. The right question is: Should there be a trial?
Since there should not be a trial at all, by definition a trial cannot be fair.
The charges are remarkably shaky and so is the key witness. It only takes one holdout to reach the correct conclusion, that felony charges are a sham.
Trump is in the batter’s box. He bucked the religious wrong in Arizona. Now let’s see if he can hit a political grand slam.
If Biden Loses the Election, What Will Be the Top Reason?
On April 7, I asked, and answered, If Biden Loses the Election, What Will Be the Top Reason?
See if you agree.
If you call me a baby killer over my very moderate, national consensus, position, you will be permanently blocked. And if you think this is a freedom of speech issue on my blog, you are nuts and need to read the Constitution.
How did someone call you a baby killer so fast? You were the first commentor!
No one did. I has happened every time I post on abortion. So I decided to issue a warning in advance.
Your blog, your rules!
My body, my choice! (vax too)
I do wish you wouldn’t make statements like this:
“A bunch of Neandertal males want to impose their views on the rest of the nation when even voters disagree in Republican states like Ohio, by overwhelming margins.”
It’s not Neanderthal males imposing their views. It’s religion, specifically Roman Catholic religion (tho other fundamental religions do it too) imposing it’s views. Virtually everyone I know (and I know both male and female) who is opposed to abortion is because of religious grounds (the idea that a soul has entered those early dividing cells rather than enter in later stages of pregnancy).
Biden is a ‘good Catholic’ according to the Pope. That’s why he’s going to say very little on this issue (ie you won’t hear him campaign on passing a right to abortion law at the Federal level).
Like almost all good Repub principles (church principles too), it sounds just great until reality arrives ….
And all good Democ principles sound terrible and reality proves they are worse. Punch a woman in the face? A Soros district attorney will let you off
Maybe next you will sing the benefits of atheism as practiced by Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Caligula, Pol Pot, etc
I think most US democratic programs still endure and are wildly popular (Medicare, Defense, bond interest payments, etc etc). Most would be screaming their head off if their subsidized social security check ever stopped coming (you receive WAY more than you ever paid in).
“A bunch of Neanderthal males want to impose their views on the rest of the nation”
My mother is not a male, though the rest of the description applies.
great crowd of nutcases you’ve cultivated as an audience here mish. your readership just seething with rage on partisan levels. not a single thought beyond trump good dumocrats bad. woke! DEI! can anyone here make an actual logical argument about anything?
The issue of abortion will always be a contentious one. From a Constitutional perspective, overturning Roe versus Wade was correct. The issue of legalization (or criminalization) of abortion is indeed, a state issue. The solution is simple, albeit difficult. Either at the state level or the national level, we need to pass a Constitutional amendment defining, for legal purposes, when a fetus is granted the right to life as defined by the Constitution. Said amendment should in no uncertain terms contain text that recognizes the fact that this is a legal definition and not a biological one. It would be best if a US Constitutional amendment be passed to avoid state-to-state differences, but it can work either way. Mere legislative acts are insufficient.
That being said, this issue is pushed front and center by the media to divide the country. Anything to keep our attention away from the fact that politicians of both parties are spending us into oblivion. As Gerard Celente (profanely) says, “When all else fails, they take us to war.” In this case it is an internal war. Keep us fighting with each other as they strip away the right to life and property from everyone, not just the unborn.
So Biden, the guy who supposedly has the nuclear launch codes, is busy today telling his supporters that his uncle was shot down during WW2, and eaten by cannibals!
The official story says the uncle’s plane had mechanical troubles and crashed in the ocean and sank.
After 80 years, this crazy man still can’t get his stories and lies straight.
Naturally, Mish thinks hallucinations and senility don’t matter, so long as the crazy Catholic wanna-be man says he supports unlimited abortions.
Oh, and Mish also tells us he doesn’t have Trump Derangement Syndrome.
J.B. Pritzker will come to the rescue with Chicago Abortion Destination Vacation Special. Just be careful!
Or Biden will start WW3 out of spite. Abortions for everyone!!
rape, incest and danger to mother – it’s personal choice
rest are so sad to bad – why didn’t you use protection? to late
can always give up for adoption
And it should cost Republicans dearly for taking away a woman’s right to choose.
But perhaps they can smooth it over with free out of state travel options:
and just put them on the buses headed north with the illegal immigrants.
What is actually Constitutional? What powers were given to the federal government and what powers to the states or to the people?
This country is following the path of the Roman Empire. I can’t verbatim quote the Constitution, but i don’t recall the term empire being written into the Constitution. The founders wanted independence, but now the U,S. government has U.S. military in like a 120 different countries. Rome never had it that good. The Constitution didn’t even create a standing army.
Martin Armstrong on occasion posts an article, in which he says Ruth Bader Ginsburg, stated that she looked at Roe v Wade as eugenics.
Think about the Covid response. No early treatment. Remdesivir, a dangerous drug, used in hospitals to treat Covid patients. The cover-up of deaths due to the Covid shots. Just what kind of government do we actually have?
“Just what kind of government do we actually have?”
The only possible kind.
There are no “good” vs “bad” governments. They’re all bad.
The only difference is big vs small. The smaller and more limited governments are, the less bad they are. And conversely, the bigger they are, more bad they are.
America’s is currently the world’s largest. Hence why it is the worst. The one intimately involved in bombing the most children in the most places. As well as in robbing the most people into starvation, by way of debasement.
The only way to make it less bad, is to make it smaller. More limited. Changing top figurehead; from a senile guy to some guy who OD’s on orange spraytan; will make exactly ZERO difference. Just as won’t capitulating, joining The Russian Federation and letting Putin take over. Unless either makes government smaller, neither will make it any better. Putin/Russia only appears more benign by any objective measure, due to the Russian government being smaller. Hence more limited. Hence less bad. But size is the only meaningful variable. Give Putin Biden’s budgets and ability to debase, and he’d be just as bad as Biden is.
Abortion is a great example example of liberal politics. Instead of preventing the problem in the first place they let things fester and then take drastic action after the fact. There are so many ways to prevent pregnancy yet this issue rages on. Pregnancy is a preventable disease after all.
So people would put up with a crappy economy, horrendous border security, and an unfit president in order to retain their right to kill their own baby.
Except it’s not a baby and even if it was, whatever rights it has don’t trump the rights of its host. A person’s right to their own body is more fundamental to the economy, so yes, people will put up with a crappy economy etc. in favor of the right to end a pregnancy.
Also, you’re right that Biden is an unfit president. Since you don’t want an unfit president, who are you supporting instead of the human cesspool that is Trump?
“My body, my choice” will backfire on Biden and everyone who wanted to mandate mRNA shots… something Ruth Bader Ginsburg pointed out years before Fauci funded covid (Ginsburg was writing about vaccine mandates generally, not specific to covid).
Researchers from at least a dozen countries, including Netherlands, France, Japan, and Switzerland have definitively proven than the mRNA shots cause menstrual cycle problems in at least 20% of women who received them. That’s not a religious theory, that is practical medical research, based on real world outcomes (not theory).
Biden also made numerous false statements (“misinformation” to use the phrasing of the big brother censorship cult) that the mRNA shots were 94% effective (actually its close to 40% effective in the general population). Biden falsely claimed it was perfectly safe, and even Biden’s own political hacks at CDC now acknowledge that the shots cause myocarditis (as lots of other countries concluded before the CDC relented). Biden claimed you can’t get covid if you get the shot, but both he and Fauci got the shot and later got covid.
The problem is that corrupt public officials, chosen based on their ability to make a click bait-y speech, should not be making medical choices for anyone. Corrupt public servants, most of whom have zero medical training, should not be forcing medical opinions on the public they are meant to serve. And finally, even public servants like Fauci cannot be trusted, as they have massive conflicts of interest (financial, and reputational) — and in Fauci’s case he is likely guilty of war crimes. Yes Virginia, designing bio-weapons and outsourcing production to Wuhan is a war crime.
Beyond abortion and mRNA shots, corrupt government officials think they are qualified to render decrees about end-of-life decisions. If multiple doctors (who unlike the corrupt officials have examined the patient) concur that the patient has a fatal disease, what basis does the corrupt official (even if well intentioned) have to decide? Its the same legal question as abortion and vaccines and stem cells and end-of-life… they are all deeply contentious and beyond the ability of legal authorities to decide.
Abortion is clearly an emotional issue for Mish, which seems to cloud his ability to see the bigger picture. Ruth Bader Ginsburg pointed out years ago the impossibility of writing a coherent law about these related issues. She spent a good 90 pages (small legal decision print) going over the hurdles and explaining why it was not something that can be legislated or judicated.
I am not saying these issues won’t harm both Trump and Biden… I’m saying the whole notion that government officials can make these determinations is ridiculous. Ginsburg wrote about the impossibility in far more eloquent terms than I did above, but too many people resort to emotional outbursts and refuse to read 90 well written pages. Media outlets see the click bait nature of the discussion and fan the flames, while misquoting (or ignoring) Ginsburg’s analysis. Ginsburg is not the only one to explain life and death is impossible to legislate or judicate, but she was very articulate and if anything was pro-choice politically, even when she acknowledged all pro-choice laws (not just Roe v Wade) were all guaranteed to fail.
I’m against Israel trying to abort the Palestinian people. Where are all the sanctimonious Evangelical Christians on that issue? And why do Republicans care so much if the Democrats want to cull their herd?
The Palestinians have learned from history if you tell the biggest lie possible, the nitwits will echo it….When CAIR isn’t trying to censor the media using doxxing laws to prevent people from physically harassing each other
If religious belief had not become public policy, slavery would have never been abolished.
False
No one can own you.
That is not a religious belief
The state owns you; follow its rules or suffer the consequences.
By that measure, so does your employer.
Mish, it was the Christian faith that was fundamentally the reason why slavery was abolished. It wasn’t anarcho capitalist.
Southern slave owners used the Christian faith to justify slavery. The Southern Baptist Convention split the national Baptist Convention in defense of slavery.
“No one should own you.”
There I fixed it for ya Mish.
History is full of examples of slavery. So its clear that you can be owned provided you do not posses the might to overcome your master’s aggression. Modern human trafficking is the newest form of slavery. Morality means nothing to the slave master.
If Africans produced anything else of value to trade for textiles they wouldn’t have enslaved their fellow Africans and traded them for cloth.
Why do women care so much about abortion? It’s a stupid wedge issues trotted out by politicians to work up the rubes.
And why do they get to vote, anyway?
It was around Prohibition. Everyone was drunk.
Touche’!
Sadly, Goldwater was right about the Republican party and Evangelicals. As much as I can agree with my Christian friends on a host of socially conservative positions I just can’t understand how this issue continues to be such an albatross. It’s a religious issue – shouldn’t you let God sort it out in the hereafter? I thought that was the whole point.
Abortion allows women to have sex at will with no consequences. That’s the issue. It has nothing to do with religion. Religion just provides a convenient excuse.
She wouldn’t be able to if the man acted responsibly! The man just buggers off and leaves the woman to deal with the consequences, and then has the gall to preach to the woman what she can and can’t do.
that would not be a “Man” Real men take responsibility
Sure!
link to singlemotherguide.com.
No one is going to forget that Trump put 3 hardline justices on the Supreme Court who overturned Roe v Wade. He was even bragging about it just last week. This is a losing issue and there’s no way for him to dance around it.
“hardline” is a smear word. What we get are typically two flavors of justices; “Constitutionalists,” often called “Originalists” who interpret the Constitution literally and/or as authentically as possible; vs “judicial activism” which seeks to undermine, subvert, disregard, or bypass the Supreme Law of the Land.
Most of the nation’s problems come directly from not following the Constitution. That’s how you get central banking and endlessly devalued fiat currencies, endless big government, eminent domain, discriminatory policies, endless unconstitutional war, dangerous centralization of power, unaccountable agencies and organizations, and the de facto elimination of states’ rights.
Abortion was legal in every state in the union when the Constitution was adopted for the next 45 years. Originalism is BS.
And it fell out of favor the same time the abolition movement got stronger and stronger.
Yes, but abolition was lead by Quakers and Congregationalist, anti- abortion was lead by the burgeoning Great Awakening churches. Regardless, it misses the point.
@Jon wrote: “Abortion was legal in every state in the union when the Constitution was adopted for the next 45 years.”
Do you have a citation for that?
Doctors who could not perform any internal surgery. Bullets were removed with giant tongs. No anesthesia (unless whiskey counts?). No “morning after pill”. And a national population that was devoutly Christian (against murder generally, not necessarily murder of a fetus).
If revolutionary war era citizens were getting abortions as you claim, why did women almost 200 years later resort to clothes hangers? Why didn’t they use whatever imaginary gizmo you are lying about?
Think you are confusing death during childbirth (which was common) with abortion (which was not).
ACB is a compromised stooge who forced the vax on IU students. She can roast in hell. Trump by-passed Judge Nap for that imbecile.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg pointed out that Roe v Wade was based on deeply flawed and unsound legal theory, and would inevitably be overturned. I’ve never heard anyone claim she was a hardliner, a conservative or didn’t understand so-called “women’s issues”. Three justices might have expedited the inevitable overturn, but it was going to happen anyway.
Issues about procreation, family planning as well as the start and end of life, are not strictly women’s issues. That’s another media click-bait gambit, intended to fan controversy and ratings.
Forcing religious practice on non believers is political suicide.
It’s also religious suicide. See Europe.
Why would it matter how old the law is? It’s the law. If you don’t like it vote for people that will change the law or vote with your feet by leaving the state.
You’re either for abortion up to a certain period in a child’s development or you are not.
If you don’t value life regardless of time of existence, fine. But life is a pretty amazing thing.
My comment isn’t directed at the host specifically, it is a general comment.
There’s one big problem with hoping that GOP candidates or legislators will ease up on abortion – religion. Specifically evangelical Christianity. I don’t care what you say about someone being raped (heck, we had the 12-year-old girl who was impregnated by her stepfather become the name and face behind a bill that went nowhere this year in my state). Evangelicals will never in a million years go for anything but bans. That has me worried that they’ll go after contraception next (yes, the slippery slope).
Of course, a lot of them support what the IDF is doing to Gaza, which makes them some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet and undeserving of the title “pro-life”. How many children and babies, not to mention pregnant women, are being killed by the bombings and starvation? That’s not pro-life, that’s pro-birth (and no, I’m not a liberal even though I’m using their terminology, it just fits).
The party line among evangelicals seems to be no to abortion but yes to destructive military action. Unfortunately, evangelicals seem to have an outsized influence over the GOP.
You want to see what evangelicals are up to? Check out this video of the “Christians Men’s Conference” featuring a shirtless buff guy sliding up and down a stripper pole swallowing a long sword. Then it’s followed up with tanks crushing cars… the core of psycho-evangelical Christianity. You can’t make this stuff up.
link to youtube.com
You just did
Picking a VP candidate on the basis of fashionable group identity isn’t much different from picking a VP candidate on the basis of vote-getting stateness. But in this election, what with both candidates being too old for the job, it’s time to pick a VP the party wants to be president should their main candidate die.
Sadly, that leaves Tulsi out. She doesn’t talk the Republican line on economics.
Don’t count Tulsi out yet. Let’s see how savvy the Great Orange Golem is,
The WSJ writing was sure confusing. “Republicans” referred to a group who passed a 15-week bill, and to a group who want abortion banned from conception. Or something.
Which tells us:
The middle needs a catchy label to compete against “pro life” and “pro choice”. Um, “Pro living choice”? ……. OK, I won’t quit my day job.
Really, “Neandertal males”? … some females are against abortion to; as are the “baby lovers”.
Hey, you write a ton multiple times per day so a little hyperbole is ok just not too much.
Democrats just regained full control of Michigan in a special election.
link to nytimes.com
Republicans keep bringing up abortion even though it’s a losing issue for these idiots and just wait and watch until they do it again. Republicans want to create chaos and boot Mike Johnson as speaker of the House. Trump is on trial for crimes. Many republicans are “retiring” from Congress leaving republicans with just 1 vote majority.
If this were a sitcom it would be unbelievably funny but it’s sad reality.
Don’t forget millennials and zoomers hate Trump and republicans.
Young women hate Trump and republicans.
Young people aren’t thrilled with what’s happening in the Middle East either.
And as others have pointed out, trump leaning baby boomer voters are dropping like flies.
Biden is now up over Trump in the polls….
See you post election day!
Yep. I said the tide would turn against Trump by summer. Republicans will question why he is the nominee come convention time. Moderate Republicans are happy to lose their seat to a Democrat than give it to a Trump supported candidate.
The truly bizarre thing now is Trump moving to the left on the whole abortion mess he created. He said it was up to the states and now that AZ has banned all abortions he says it needs to be “fixed.” Trump is now becoming the pro-choice candidate…cue the irony.
Like I said, an insanely funny sitcom if so many lives weren’t being impacted by clowns.
And I predict republicans will attempt to stomp on women again at least two more times before the election.
Nothing is bizarre about the Angry Orange Mussolini Wannabe. He’s a liar and a crook and has been for decades. It’s just finally catching up with him now. He’d sell his mother for a nickel and will sink the Republican Party or break it.
I don’t really care about the Reps or the Dems as they’re both corrupt and serving their own Special Interests instead of the people who elected them.
Well Trump is now charging GOP candidates to use his name o you may be on to something.
link to dailykos.com
Kyle Bass has all the real nickels.
AZ has not just banned abortion. Their court told them that the recent law does not override the original law, therefore the original law stands. This court ruling is nothing to do with ideology – it’s a statement of legal fact which straightens the record. However, the repubs are ideologically opposed and will commit political suicide over this.
Trump should identify as Calvin Coolidge.
Yup, I view the Republicans general stance on abortion the same as the Democrats general stance on guns. Which is, both issues are largely settled and they aren’t going away so both parties should just move on from them. But here we are. Democrats scream in terror that the Republicans want a gun in every household and Republicans scream in terror that Democrats want an abortion in every household. All this bickering is just one giant distraction.
I’m not pro abortion either, but I’m also not in favor of the government getting involved in it.
If there be a God and he deems abortion a sin then those that engage in it will have to answer for thier transgression at the pearly gates. If not then well….I guess nothing happens.
There’s no compromise if one views abortion as murder. I’m waiting for SC to rule on a Jewish religious freedom case as Jewish religion believes that life begins at first breath.
If one believes homosexuality is wrong because the bible says so or whatever, do you ban that too?
I have a suggestion: stay out of others’ religious beliefs.
It is wrong. Morally, emotionally, naturally, biblically, physically, psychologically and historically. Take your pick……. But most like to screech about religion
I guess I worded it poorly. I am not opposed to abortion up to viability. I meant my comment to address both the laws legislatures are passing and judicial decisions which IMO are based on religion and not rule of law. I therefore used the example of a religion like Jewish which has a different standard. No offense intended.
But the thing is that this is an issue with a specific religious moral component. Why is it not sufficient for the Almighty to sort out the sinners in the hereafter for this particular case?
They keep expecting God to bail them out, and it keeps not happening.
It’d be funny if they weren’t threatening violence.
Mish,
Moderation is no longer in vogue. You, like me, and many of my friends and associates are morbidly old-fashion. The extremism is the new normal. Just like the weather forecasters…they cannot give you a straight answer as to what the weather is going to be today or tomorrow – they have to characterize the weather as extreme, with anywhere from 27 million to 83 million people “at risk”!!!
It is really hard for an independent voter to figure out what to do when one cannot believe how stupid the Democrats are, and how religiously-driven the Republicans are… The lack of sensibilities is rampant in US.
One thing is for sure, though the Democrats are pushing the envelope, I will not vote for the Taliban in America (Republicans) and I will actively refute ISIS in America (MAGA extremists). ISIS in America needs to be put into a box and the lid closed. The Taliban in America can be dealt with, but they are poorly educated, so it will take a while.
The Democrats are trying to change peoples minds to accept concepts that are different than ones that have long been accepted. A noble endeavor, but one that requires time and demonstrations as to why the changes are warranted. The funding of these is out of control. I will NEVER buy an EV (they do not work for people like me – I drive long distances, with a load, in all kinds of weather, including -45 F), and I do not want to pay a carbon tx, because it does NOTHING, but put $$$ in the pockets of people like Al Gore, and other rich people!
Maybe the moderates will make headway, but not soon. Traitor rump my win the election, but US and the world will suffer.
Make AMERICA Great Again is now ISIS…… What a fukin moron. I’d LOVE to see you put me in a box let alone close the lid
Don the Con is an AssHat that will get taken down because he’s been crooked for a long time. If he would have quit lying a couple years ago, he would probably have had a chance. Instead he keeps lying more and bigger every time he speaks. Republicans could have put ANYONE else on the ballot and Won. Now this will be a lost election for the Reps.
He is an asshat and so is my investing guy and so were a few of my best customers along the way…… but I’m not a pussy that has been propagandized by the hormonal Rachel madcow and those like her. I love Trump drives you insane. Tells me everything I need to know
Both want to force their ideals on others, seems a fair comparison. You making threats also seems pretty on message. Maybe your cap is too tight?
Funny I thought MAGA was Russian. Now it’s Taliban What’s next..supporters of George III?
tell us more of your tolerance for differing opinions
Most polls underrepresent women. Expect some weirdness come November
By “weirdness” you mean the Republicans getting smashed??
Amazing when you try and take away rights from more than half the population (women) you end up getting your arse handed to ya.
Amazing work by the Old Farts Party to lose such a winnable election.
Mish, have you read Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s critique of the Roe v Wade decision? Like **HER** writing, not some media outlet’s “interpretation” of what she wrote. You should read Ginsberg’s actual opinion, directly as she wrote it.
I’m shocked that the younger generations are having reproductive relations.
Unfortunately, both parties seem to be in the hands of the extremists, even if they aren’t the majority. However, in the case of the Democrats, they at least have the media mouthpiece on their side. The real irony in it all is that most people are really pro-life at some point with the only difference being where they draw the line for having an abortion. Very few pro-choicers support abortion up to the point of birth and very few pro-lifers support a complete abortion ban.
Yeah. Be careful what you wish for.
This what you get when you pack the SCOTUS with people who follow the men in funny little hats in Rome (7 of 9 Justices, not very representative of the country).
In some places the GOP will just outright lose after actual correct vote counting.
In other places the Dark Powers have their narrative to rig whatever elections they need to.
They will say Dems just came out to vote against the American Taliban
And so they will likely get away with it.
And the Bang Point, if the Dems control the entire Federal Government for another 4 years, will occur prior to 2028.
Tell us about who put in a black woman who needs a scientist to tell you who is a man and who is a woman. Besides, Democrats think men can get pregnant
This is why the Republicans are doomed. Stoopid irrelevant comments like this that No one cares about.
Stupid progressive ideas like men getting pregnant with the idiotic trans issue and the every-white-person-is-racist “anti-racist” DEI/CRT are dooming the dems. If it weren’t for the progressive social war crap, the Dems would crush the R’s…
Data seems to never be mentioned with this mother-of-all wedge issues. I always wonder exactly how many voters choose to exercise their vote because of just this one singular topic? And what are the numbers involved with abortion? Everyone seems eager to participate in the debate….but without the information, the debate is largely just raw emotion for regime media to exploit.
Sounds to me like that famous quotation “just how many dead hemophiliacs do you need?” (to do something about AIDS)
Mish cited the changing views of Tulsi Gabbard, and I think he would learn a lot if he read Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s legal analysis of Roe v Wade (spoiler: Ginsburg said it was a horribly flawed legal theory that would inevitably be overturned). Ginsburg was not a religious nut, and hardly a right wing anything … From a legal opinion viewpoint, Roe v Wade was a mess.
I seriously doubt most people are extremist, one issue voters. Might a candidate’s abortion stance influence an opinion? Sure. Will other issues also factor in? For 99.99% of the population, it will be a mix of many issues. Its not the be all and end all issue that Mish seems to suggest.
If I had to guess a dominant (but not exclusive) issue, I would think Bill Clinton’s “its the economy stupid” would effect both genders quite a lot…. but even if it has the highest weighting, economy won’t get 100%.
Abortion is a ratings bonanza for media outlets, which is why they fan the flames as much as they can. Its another great reason to turn off the TV / radio / podcast and go outside instead.
I am certain abortion was the overriding issue in midterms.
And it will be in November. Trump handed AZ to Biden. Trump lost Michigan already.
Still beating that dead horse?
I’ll be happy to make a wager with you than Biden as a Catholic does not campaign on passing a right to abortion law at the Federal level. Oh, he’ll mouth support for women’s choices to win votes but won’t commit to doing anything to support it at the federal level.
Dead horse? I asked you to go ask women what they think of their reproductive rights and you went and asked three women likely of non-child bearing age (Misses, mother and mother in law). Don’t you have daughters? Why don’t you ask them what they think of their reproductive rights?
And Biden doesn’t pass or create laws, Congress does. Biden CAN and DID sign executive orders to do what he could.
link to cnn.com
President Joe Biden on Friday signed an executive order aimed at protecting access to reproductive health services in the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade and eliminating the constitutional right to an abortion.
The executive order attempts to safeguard access to medication abortion and emergency contraception, protect patient privacy, launch public education efforts as well as bolster the security of and the legal options available to those seeking and providing abortion services.
“President Biden has made clear that the only way to secure a woman’s right to choose is for Congress to restore the protections of Roe as federal law.
When Trump loses you’ll know one of the key reasons why then you can apologize to me. See you election day!
My daughter is too young to vote so it doesn’t matter what she thinks.
Trust me, I’ve spoken to plenty women over the years about abortion. Other than than those opposed because of religious beliefs, the rest prefer to have an option. But absolutely *none* of them ever said they’d vote based on a candidates abortion stance. It just wasn’t an important enough issue (of course virtually all these women were educated and used birth control so were highly unlikely to need one) to matter.
Whom ever loses, you can literally claim anything was the reason for the loss. That will both be true and false at the same time. The real question that may never be answerable is what was the primary reason for the defeat.
Yep. The Conservative Religious Right kicked the Hornet’s Nest and got stung.
And they KEEP doing it and seem to up the ante every week or two…
somebody should have an intervention for them.
I commend your stance and the tenor of your words Mish. Men, especially religiously-motivated men, have no business making these decisions for women in the 21st Century.
Democrats are destroying this country using the abortion issue. They are not going to solve it but they will use it to win votes election cycle after cycle. None of their unpopular policies will win votes. Republicans should compromise on the abortion issue for the sake of saving this country.
Biden is the best weather vane ever … changes direction quickly and without reason. He/dems ferret out popular positions and take them.
How to walk the Israel/Palestinian line is a show! Especially when they get to Chi-ca-go!
Giving away money is easy … pennies from me; dollars to you. Just keep taxing the 49%ers.
The women in this country are not gonna have old white men and their female lackeys force them to have their rapists baby and raise it or go to jail. The reason for the peace we had for 75 years is regrettable, but it sure saved a lot of people’s butts. And now someone has opened up a big can of worms.
Do you mean old white men like Joe Biden?
He’s way overcooked, yep, and Im a liberal democrat. But he’s better than an about-to-be-convicted former Prez.
This post is the rantings of a race baiting bigot who thinks women are stupid and unable to think for themselves
Im just thankful the womens’ vote is secret.
It’s not “old white men”. Just get 51% in 38 states to pass an amendment to the Constitution enshrining abortion. OWM and FLs are, what, ~25-30%?
The silent majorly is a force (but working and paying taxes …making them “silent” most days).
Up until last year, we didnt need an amendment. But the bible-thumpers just couldnt stop themselves …
Trump should sell bibles hollowed-out for handguns.
I believe you need 2/3’s in both houses to pass a constitutional amendment.
Old white men aren’t the issue – it’s the minority of religious people of all races and sexes (women too). Just like there are plenty of old white men who want abortion legal should their wife/daughter need all the associated procedures similar to abortion.