The Trump-Musk Feud Turns Very Ugly Including a Deportation Threat

Trump is not serious about deportation, but the feud is seriously ugly.

Trump Will ‘Take a Look’ at Deporting Musk

Bloomberg reports Trump Says He’ll Have to ‘Take a Look’ at Deporting Musk

President Donald Trump said he would look into deporting billionaire Elon Musk in response to a question about the ally-turned-critic of his signature tax and spending legislation.

“I don’t know,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Tuesday when asked if he would deport the South African-born entrepreneur and US citizen, before adding that “we’ll have to take a look.”

The president’s comments are the latest salvo in a renewed feud between Trump and the world’s richest person, who has ramped up his criticism of a Republican tax bill that expedites the end of a consumer credit for electric vehicle purchases.

The president said Musk was “losing his EV mandate” and added that “Elon could lose a lot more than that.”

Musk has lambasted the Republican legislation, calling it an “insane spending bill” and threatened to help create a third political party in the US. He has denied, however, that his opposition is based on preserving government subsidies for his companies.

The two had a public falling out over Musk’s criticisms of the tax bill, trading insults on social media. While that fight appeared to have cooled, Musk in recent days has posted repeated attacks on the legislation, reigniting their fight.

“We might have to put DOGE on Elon,” Trump said about the federal cost-cutting effort. “DOGE is the monster that might have to go back and eat Elon. Wouldn’t that be terrible?”

Trump escalates feud with Musk, threatens Tesla, SpaceX support

Reuters reports Trump escalates feud with Musk, threatens Tesla, SpaceX support

U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday threatened to cut off the billions of dollars in subsidies that Elon Musk’s companies receive from the federal government, in an escalation of the war of words between the president and the world’s richest man, one-time allies who have since fallen out.

The feud reignited on Monday when Musk, who spent hundreds of millions on Trump’s re-election, renewed his criticism of Trump’s tax-cut and spending bill, which would eliminate subsidies for electric vehicle purchases that have benefited Tesla, the leading U.S. EV maker. That bill passed the Senate by a narrow margin midday Tuesday.

Though Musk has often said government subsidies should be eliminated, Tesla has historically benefited from billions of dollars in tax credits and other policy benefits because of its business in clean transportation and renewable energy. The Trump administration has control over many of those programs, some of which are targeted in the tax bill, including a $7,500 consumer tax credit that has made buying or leasing EVs more attractive for consumers.

Musk spearheaded the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), aimed at cutting government spending, before he pulled back his involvement in late May. Trump on Truth Social on Tuesday suggested Musk might receive more subsidies “than any human being in history, by far,” adding: “No more Rocket launches, Satellites, or Electric Car Production, and our Country would save a FORTUNE.”

In response to Trump’s threats, Musk said on his own social media platform X, “I am literally saying CUT IT ALL. Now.” He later added that he could escalate the exchange with Trump but said, “I will refrain for now.”

What Happened?

Musk thought he could be some sort of hero with DOGE, but never accomplished anything.

Not a single new idea came out of the process but there was a lot of bragging over nonsense caused by COBOL date errors making it appear people over the age of 120 were collecting Social Security.

Trump got what he wanted out of the relationship, nonsensical hype. Musk was hoping Trump would keep the energy credit and failed.

Trump is not going to deport Musk, or even seriously look into the idea. But trump might easily make Musk pay a price in other ways with Tesla or SpaceX.

The DOGE Buyouts

The Hill asks Is DOGE’s machete approach to the federal workforce doing more harm than good?

DOGE is looking to shrink the federal government and budget. That means shrinking the federal workforce, which stands at around 3 million people. By comparison, the largest private-sector employers in the United States are Walmart (1.6 million) and Amazon (1.1 million).

The 75,000 or more who have accepted the buyout offer represent around 2 percent of the federal workforce.

One concern raised is that the people accepting the buyout may be critical contributors, with domain-specific knowledge lost that could take years to recoup. This is true any time senior employees leave an organization. When a generous buyout is offered, low-performing and less skilled people often do not take it because the stable job is a priority for them. Those the organization wishes to retain for their high-skill levels and performance are more likely to jump at the offer, since they have more options outside government. When they are offered a seven-month severance package, it’s an easy decision.

Among the 2 million people eligible for the buyout, natural attrition (retirement and people moving to the private sector) would likely yield at least 100,000 people per year leaving the federal workforce. The buyout is designed to accelerate this, though the seven-month severance package does nothing to yield any real savings

DOGE is Careless in Operation and Reckless in Reporting

I discussed the COBOL date issue in DOGE is Careless in Operation and Reckless in Reporting

Let’s discuss viral nonsense on alleged Social Security fraud and a simple explanation.

Musk thought he could come up with $2 trillion in cuts, then $1 trillion in cuts.

MuskWatch reports DOGE claims at $165 billion of which only $69.3 billion is itemized.

And of the itemized cuts only $16.3 billion is verified. Most of that is one-time. Well, it’s at least something, perhaps.

Most of what DOGE found, anyone could have found.

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Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
9 months ago

Musk thought he could be some sort of hero with DOGE but never accomplished anything.”

This is beneath you Mish. You are much better when you stick to substance, rather than pretend you can read the minds of others based on Mockingbird media reports.

Musk is a smart, committed person intent on doing good. And with as much good as he has done and at great cost to himself and his entire company, couldn’t you be a bit more generous and less smug?

Jojo
Jojo
9 months ago

Musk is an idealist. He believed that Trump (any politicians) was actually serious about reducing our debt and deficit, regardless of the economic pain it would bring to many people,including his other powerful backers.

SUCKER!

steve
steve
9 months ago

Has he become such a pain in the A that deporting is the only way to get any relief?

Albert
Albert
9 months ago

I prefer discussion of economic (more serious) topics. The Trump-Musk soap opera is boring.

Creamer
Creamer
9 months ago

Forget Musk, can we finally talk about the elephant in the room here?

This is what a dictatorship sounds like, this is what a dictatorship looks like. Unlimited spending via money printer, open physical threats to economic drivers and business owners, crippling entire industries to round up Jews I mean “criminals”. Bonds are already looking tepid over the new big bill, anyone wanna tell me what happens when the military is actively fighting at home to fill alligator Auschwitz?

Every passing day is increasing proof that if you are a foreign investor, you don’t want your money here. Tulipmania in the stock market contrasting with all data on the ground is in itself a terrifying red flag. Combine that with what is increasingly sure to end in an ugly draw down and it becomes an honest wonder who still thinks they’re getting their money back from the government set to be unable to afford to pay social security or track hurricanes. At this rate, by the time a seven year bond matures, it’ll be paid in either copper wire or a Trump Account™️ full of Trump Coins™️.

TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago
Reply to  Creamer

ICE and their camps are our embryonic gestapo.

The message is “Don’t criticize us, or armed, masked men will show up at your house and make you disappear.”

Won’t be long before the new gun laws are made “for our protection”

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
9 months ago
TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago

Why pay when a quick shart will get the same effect?

Doug78
Doug78
9 months ago

I like both of them for the same reasons. I like what Trump is doing and I like Musk what Musk is doing. That they have some difficulty working together I understand. They both are used to being the top man and there can be only one. I really doubt Musk will start a new party. That is a bit cinema to strike fear into the hearts of the Republican waverers.

Scooot
Scooot
9 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

The Muskovite Party?

BenW
BenW
9 months ago

I’m not a fan of Musk. As soon as he said he’d go to war for H1-B’s, that let me know exactly where he stands. He’s just like Trump, an attention hog, with some really dumb ideas. As for DOGE cuts, I agree that it was all an allusion except for maybe naive Musk.

Again, all of this is Trump’s / UnitParty’s fault. In 2029, if nothing gets done, it will be the fault of the same politicians. Murkowski is our best recent example. At the last minute, she had to be bought in order to vote for the BBB. Then you’ve got spiteful Schumer forcing the bill to be read out loud & renamed it to The Act. EVERYONE knows we’re on an increasingly shorter path to fiscal destruction but won’t do anything about it.

Until a president steps forward & levels with America that we’ve all got to take a collective pay cut through different means, then nothing is going to get done. And that day probably won’t come until there’s a serious US Treasuries crisis with very low demand due to our cratering credit worthiness. That’s the sort of thing not even the President or UniParty can explain away.

We are clearly into the visible acceleration of our debt crisis. COVID did more than kill millions of Americans. It killed our chance to making meaningful, near-term changes to spending & tax collections. It put us on a path of fiscal irresponsibility that no one could have predicted 10 years ago.

Last edited 9 months ago by BenW
Doug78
Doug78
9 months ago
Reply to  BenW

Especially since we know now that much of Covid response was a sham made to put free money into some people’s pockets. The actions taken by public health officials at the low level was lamentable and the actions taken at the highest level were in so many cases criminal.

TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

We? You got a frog in your pocket? Is he a spy for the Chinese government?

Doug78
Doug78
9 months ago
Reply to  TacoMan

Who is he?

BenW
BenW
9 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

I agree: criminal, negligent, unethical. The entire gamete. Again, blame the UniParty. The GOP colluded with the Dems & Biden’s corrupt administration to not tell the truth. Look no further at our political leaders’ inability to hold China accountable in some meaningful way. That’s ludicrous!

It’s now being reported that the FBI blocked an investigation into the allegations that the Chinese Communist Party manufactured thousands of fake driver’s licenses and shipped them to the US in a scheme to help Joe Biden win the election by fraudulent mail-in votes. The FBI hid the investigation in order to protect FBI Director Chris Wray who had lied to Congress about the election.

And then you’ve got J6. No doubt that there was a small number of protesters who needed to be prosecuted. But beyond that, it was a covert op by the Deep State to make Trump look bad, so he couldn’t run in 2024.

Pokercat
Pokercat
9 months ago

What is wrong with these assholes. They have more money than they could ever spend yet continue to plague the rest of humanity with their presence. Other than mental illness there is no other explanation.

86/47 86/elon

TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago
Reply to  Pokercat

They are sick, suffering, and crying out for euthanasia. Dr. Luigi will see them shortly.

Pokercat
Pokercat
9 months ago
Reply to  TacoMan

We can hope, soon that maybe all we have left.

86/47

Jojo
Jojo
9 months ago
Reply to  Pokercat

“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

peace
peace
9 months ago

Stop fighting.
Keep quiet.
Both of you are making money through the loophole of the system.

john
john
9 months ago

Trump and Musk escapades lately are great improvised Soap Opera.
Musk had his Tesla stock cratering as he pushed the DOGE show for Trump.
Script then changes to the Donald and Musk bromance falling apart.
Trump now denounces Elon and both openenly trash each other in public.
Will Tesla car sales recover and the stock shoot back up?
Can’t wait for the next episode with their humourously revised scripts.

Doug78
Doug78
9 months ago
Reply to  john

Tesla car sales are shooting up in Europe now. It’s probably the new models but maybe not completely.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
9 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

What new models?

TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

The Cybertruck of course!. They can’t get enough of them over there.

Matt1234
Matt1234
9 months ago
Reply to  john

100%. We are the ones being played. Musk got Trump elected and sales suffered. Duh! Like what business doesn’t know not to mix politics with sales? So this is the plan to stop the crazies vandalizing Tesla’s and make those without reasoning capability think they hate each other now. Yes it’s a Soap Opera. Thank you to Elon Musk for saving free speech by buying Twitter.

Irondoor
Irondoor
9 months ago

“Anyone could have found it”. But nobody did. A pox upon Trump, Musk, DOGE, and Congress. An even greater pox upon the American voter for electing these so-called “public servants”. There are no words to describe the situation we now find ourselves in after 80 years of leadership failure, other than hopeless.

TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago
Reply to  Irondoor

There is a single word that perfectly describes it:

Idiocracy

We are living satire now. Guess I’ll see if “Ow! My Balls!” is on.

Pokercat
Pokercat
9 months ago
Reply to  Irondoor

Soon the only way left to save millions will be violent revolution. The Reich is coming for you.

Last edited 9 months ago by Pokercat
Brian d Richards
Brian d Richards
9 months ago

…….I’m going to take my marbles and go back to mommy……

Mike T
Mike T
9 months ago

Trump’s presidential performance is still a “2.” I doubt he’s ever supported anything that didn’t directly benefit DJT.
Elon? I WANT to believe he’s a good guy, but who knows what his motivations or intentions are. And, name another who receives such massive taxpayer funding.

Candidly, folks, we’re “kickin’ at midgets.” So much of “news” is just a distraction from the “Conceits” (call themselves elites) “real” agenda – massive control over all our lives. “You will own nothing and you will be happy.”
CBDC – coming soon to a bank near you.

Ryan Lynn
Ryan Lynn
9 months ago

“ We might have to put DOGE on Elon”

Well Orange Santa sure didn’t put doge on anything else. Ukraine is still getting taxpayer goodies.

Avery2
Avery2
9 months ago

“Look, a squirre!”

Musk has an exit strategy, just like some of the billionaire day-trading commenters here.

I’m printing this post so that I can mail it in with my 1040 next year/ “Tis nothing!”

Last edited 9 months ago by Avery2
Rickmensworth
Rickmensworth
9 months ago

I suppose this is what happens when you get two 13 year old dick swingers in the same room… They both deserve each other, shame one of them is a lunatic.

Wild Midwest
Wild Midwest
9 months ago
Reply to  Rickmensworth

Which one?

Anthony
Anthony
9 months ago

And does MAGA care at blatant misuse of power, of threatening to strip citizenship in 100% purely political concerns?

I mean he’s not even attempting to hide the threat, he is openly threatening to deport someone because they oppose his bill.

MAGA likley knows nothing of the bill because places like Fox News aren’t including it as top stories. Yesterday Fox top stories were whether AOC is from Westchester or the Bronx, something relating to immigration and other obvious distractions.

You had to scroll waaay down the page to get anything on the most consequential Congressional act in decades, which would impact the whole country including many MAGA voters. But nope, the real concern was to ensure people understood that AOC was just pretending to be from the Bronx which impact some MAGA voter in Arkansas about to lose Medicaid not one bit.

Last edited 9 months ago by Anthony
TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago
Reply to  Anthony

Fox has become the National Enquirer.

Frosty
Frosty
9 months ago
Reply to  TacoMan

Fox has always been a shitrag…

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
9 months ago

I felt it when I saw the pic of obnoxious Musk with his obnoxious son in the oval office and
Trump saying with his face and body language “I detest Musk” I knew than that the supposed love fest was not going to last

Naphtali
Naphtali
9 months ago

Kabuki at it’s best!

PreCambrian
PreCambrian
9 months ago

What I find concerning is that the President threatens legal actions against those who don’t agree with him politically.

Augustine
Augustine
9 months ago
Reply to  PreCambrian

And you just noticed it now, because TACO is incapable of subtlety?

PreCambrian
PreCambrian
9 months ago
Reply to  Augustine

And where did I say I just noticed it?

Irondoor
Irondoor
9 months ago
Reply to  PreCambrian

Yes, after spending hundreds of millions on his own legal defense in deliberate lawsuits by Democrats, who’s blaming him?

PreCambrian
PreCambrian
9 months ago
Reply to  Irondoor

First a lawsuit is different than a threat. Anyone can bring a lawsuit. And the defendant gets their day in court. And second the lawsuits were brought against actions by the defendant, not brought against political opinions of the defendant.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
9 months ago
Reply to  Irondoor

Who’s blaming him? Everyone except idiots who don’t know the difference between threats and abuses of power, and legal lawsuits.

TacoMan
TacoMan
9 months ago
Reply to  PreCambrian

That kid that tried to pop his head saw it coming, and sacrificed himself to try and stop it.

Shame he didn’t spend more time at the range.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
9 months ago
Reply to  PreCambrian

So what? Saying something and doing something are 2 vastly different things.

In 2016 you’ll recall ‘lock her up’ was practically his campaign slogan. Yet once elected he essentially ignore Hillary entirely.

Trump just spouts off things whenever he wants to gauge public option on some topic (eg Musk). The media falls all over themselves to report on it and we get blog entries like this one where we all debate it etc. I’m 100% positive he has a large team of people + AI software culling the results of these discussions from all platforms (internet/radio/TV etc) and from that he gauges what the public consensus is on the topic. If it’s favorable he may indeed pursue it and if not, he lets it drop and moves on to the next thing.

Last edited 9 months ago by TexasTim65
SavyinDallas
SavyinDallas
9 months ago
Reply to  PreCambrian

Trump is proving himself to be a thug. Making unjust threats, badgering and bombing other countries, bragging about his new Gaza resort on the Mediterranean while tens of thousands of women and children are murdered, dying of starvation, carrying on like a gangster. Now he even threatens Israel with tariffs if they don’t drop all criminal charges against the criminal Netanyahu. For someone who has totally betrayed the principles of MAGA, he has some gall threatening people like Musk and especially Thomas Massie.

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