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Trump Labels China and India “Hellhole Countries” How Many Will That Offend?

Every day, Trump does something to offend more voters.

Series of Four Racist Images

On Truth Social, Trump posted a series of four disturbing text images of statements made by known racist Michael Savage.

Text and videos below.

Firstpost asks Who is Michael Savage, the US radio host who referred to India and China as ‘hell-holes’?

In a lengthy letter to Donald Trump, Michael Savage has attacked birthright citizenship and referred to India and China as ‘hell-holes’. This isn’t the first time the popular right-wing radio show host has made controversial comments. In 2003, he was fired from MSNBC for telling a caller, ‘You should get AIDS and die’

In the post shared by Trump, which has since been liked, reposted, and widely shared online, Savage, whose actual name is Michael Alan Weiner, has made provocative claims about birthright citizenship and even referred to India and China as “hell-holes”.

In the rather lengthy post, he attacks birthright citizenship, which is being argued in the US supreme court, calling for a national referendum instead of leaving it to the courts.

Savage Video

Here is the Michael Savage Video that Trump linked to.

Here is commentary on the video, not the video itself.

Complete Transcript (Emphasis Mine)

Welcome to the Savage Nation.

Today’s brief, abbreviated discussion will be about the arguments that I just listened to before the Supreme Court about birthright citizenship.

I was somewhat incensed by listening to the arguments. All I heard was legalese being bandied back and forth, and quite noticeable to me was that the person bringing the arguments in favor of flooding America with illegal aliens to change the demography forever was a Chinese American who looks to me like the classic ACLU attorney. Very smart, very civil, and very devious.

The ACLU is the head of the snake. They have been forever, and there they were again trying to turn America into a cesspool.

We all know that these arguments should not be conducted in the abstract of a courtroom. This is really not about law. This is about public opinion.

Now, I could start arguing about the Constitution itself, and I’ll run into a stone wall with you. We can’t modify the Constitution because it’s written in stone, and if we do, they’ll take away our First and Second amendments, which is what they would do.

So that’s the problem. The Constitution was written before air travel, before television, before the internet, before radio. How irrelevant are some of these arguments when people are coming here by airplane in the ninth month of their pregnancy?

A baby here becomes an instant citizen, and then they bring the entire family in from China or India or some other hellhole on the planet. You don’t have to go too far to see that. English is not spoken here anymore. There’s almost no loyalty to this country amongst the immigrant class coming in today, which was not always the case.

No, they’re not like the European Americans of today and their ancestors. The Irish integrated, the Italians integrated, the Polish integrated, the Lithuanians, the Romanians, the Russians. They all integrated and became Americans in the melting pot.

The idea of the melting pot is long over. It is now just a cash-in pot. We’ve gone from the melting pot to the chamber pot.

As I said many years ago, you don’t have to go any further than any city in America to see what this has wrought upon this country.

So to listen to these very wise, smart lawyers arguing in the abstract as to whether birthright citizenship should apply to anyone born here, no matter who their parents are or where their parents came from, is ludicrous.

That’s why I put up a poll on my social channels where I said birthright citizenship should be subjected to a national vote. Not put in the hands of lawyers. Let the people decide.

They’re also abusing it. I used to be a great supporter of Indians in India until they opened my eyes up to what’s going on here. White men need not apply to jobs in the state of California. Never mind in high tech.

I don’t care what your qualifications are. You’re not getting a job if you’re not Chinese or Indian. Your chances are nil. You have to be from India or China because almost all the internal mechanisms are set up and run by Indians and Chinese.

I know it for a fact, and you don’t have to agree with it. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t argue with me.

So I can ask you if you agree with me and I know the answer already. I see it on X. Simple question: Birthright citizenship — should it be subjected to a national vote? Not up to the nine lawyers? Should the citizens decide?

It’s running 78% to 21%. Admittedly, it’s a small sample. Admittedly it’s a biased sample. Okay, but watching the Supreme Court arguments made me very disturbed because we can’t leave it to a handful of lawyers to decide the future of our nation.

There’s a very famous case, and I think it was Andrew Jackson, who after the Supreme Court ruled about the Cherokee removal, he disagreed with what the Supreme Court said. And he said, “Now the court has decided it, let them enforce it.” Meaning: go screw yourselves. I hold all the power with the military.

That’s what he said to the Supreme Court. Then sure, let them come here and drop a baby in the ninth month on the doorstep and turn them into an instant citizen and then bring in all the ancestors from India and from China.

Sure. Bring them all in. If that’s what happens, what I see is what’s going to happen, and then what we need is a Jackson as president — and I don’t mean Ketanji Jackson. We need someone to stand up to these lawyers. They’ve destroyed our nation.

Unbelievable what’s going on in my nation and my state. The corrupt state of California where fraud is so rampant that even Democrats are screaming about it.

That’s my piece on birthright citizenship before the Savage Nation.

Racist Math

Since roughly 35 percent of the nation is MAGA, then 35 percent of the nation agrees automatically with what Trump posted.

If Trump changed his mind tomorrow, then roughly 35 percent of the nation would change its mind tomorrow as well.

Aside from Mindless MAGAs (MMs), MAGA Morons if you prefer a dual-purpose acronym, there is a certain percentage of hard-core bigots and racists in this country.

I don’t know that percentage.

I would like to believe it’s less than 35 percent, but I really don’t know.

This Is About the Law

Despite Savage’s racist beliefs, this case very much is about the law.

Watching the Supreme Court arguments made me very disturbed because we can’t leave it to a handful of lawyers to decide the future of our nation,” said Savage.

He proposes a national referendum because he admits a formal Constitution Amendment process would fail.

Let’s play a mental game and give Savage his wish, a national election, 50+ percent wins. But let’s do it on three issues.

  1. Birthright Citizenship
  2. Gun control
  3. Legalized Abortion

It is not at all clear that ending Birthright Citizenship would pass. Indeed, I believe it would fail, properly explained.

But what is clear is we would have gun control and legalized abortion.

The Constitution is hard to change on purpose.

Savage would be the first hypocrite to howl if we suddenly took took to settling constitutional questions by simple majority.

Race-Baiting Lies

Savage’s statement “I don’t care what your qualifications are. You’re not getting a job if you’re not Chinese or Indian,” is a race-baiting lie.

How Many People Will This Offend?

Everyone should be offended by this racist portrayal. However, and as noted, all the MMs won’t care. They would either cheer, make an excuse for it, or sit silent.

If you identify as MAGA, you have no choice. You follow Trump no matter what he says, even 180 degree reversals.

As of 2024–2026, there are over 5.8 million people of Chinese descent (including Taiwanese) and approximately 5.6 million Asian Indians (alone or in combination) in the U.S..

Combined, these two groups represent over 11 million residents, forming the largest segments of the rapidly growing Asian American population.

That’s 11 million people offended by Trump’s post.

Pew estimates 11% to 25% of Americans, or roughly 25 to 60+ million adults, hold views aligning with libertarianism (fiscally conservative, socially liberal). While 11% explicitly identify as libertarian, another 15% may have libertarian leanings.

Since Libertarians are not MMs by definition, add another 25-60 million people sensibly offended by Trump’s racist re-post.

Most Democrats would be offended by Trump’s repost. But there is some overlap between Democrats, Chinese, and Indians.

I believe most Independents would be offended. Again, there some is overlap between independents, Chinese, and Indians.

Add it all up and throw away the overlaps and the percentage of voters Trump offended is over 60 percent.

Supreme Court Birthright Citizenship Oral Arguments

On April 1, I noted Supreme Court Birthright Citizenship Arguments Suggest 7-2 Minimum Against Trump

Gorsuch, Barret, and even Kavanaugh hammered Sauer [Trump’s Solicitor General arguing the case]. Thomas was skeptical. Kagan blasted Sauer on “revisionist history”.

Revisionist History Analysis

For an understanding of the massive revisionist history that Sauer asked the Court to swallow, please see my February 20, 2025 post Appeals Court Rejects Trump’s Birthright Citizenship Executive Order

The Appeals Court ruling was 95 percent likely, so this is no shocker. But let’s review the case.

Also see What Were the US Senators Thinking When They Debated the 14th Amendment?

The question is not realistically subject to logical debate.

Senator Howard

The proposition before us, I will say, Mr. President, relates simply in that respect to the children begotten of Chinese parents in California, and it is proposed that they be citizens.

I voted for the proposition that the children of all parentage whatever, born in California, should be regarded as citizens of the United States, entitled to equal right of other senators of the United States.

We are entirely ready to accept the provision proposed in this amendment, that children born here of Mongolian parents shall be declared by the Constitution of the United States to be entitled to civil rights and to equal protection before the law with others.

Can anyone in good faith sincerely tell me the intent of birthright citizenship was not debated and perfectly clear in 1866?

The Congressional debate from the time did surface in today’s oral arguments. This is what Kagan meant by revisionist history.

Trump on Birthright Citizenship

The proper reply is “We are the only nation stupid enough to elect someone like Trump, not once, but twice.”

Moreover, Trump’s statement is a lie. Pew reports U.S.-style birthright citizenship is uncommon around the world.

Thirty-two other countries around the world, most of them in the Western Hemisphere, have birthright citizenship laws that are substantially similar to the U.S., according to a Pew Research Center analysis. Another 50 or so countries have more limited variations of birthright citizenship.

This policy is most common in the Americas, including the United States, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, and Argentina.

A Serious Question

MM-Worldtm and Beyond

I cannot change anyone’s racist beliefs, nor their pretense that they are not racists.

But this is yet another offensive post, for obvious reasons, whether you make excuses for it or not.

If you are an MM, you have no choice. You either embrace what Trump posted or you make excuses for it.

Outside of MM-Worldtm these mistakes by Trump keep adding up.

Factor in inflation, health care, manufacturing job losses, tariff refund checks not delivered, his asinine promise to lower energy bills in half, his asinine promise to lower gasoline in half, Epstein lies, and tariffs that have backfired.

Republicans are going to get hammered in the Midterms.

For discussion, please see How Big Will the “Blue Wave” Be in the Midterm Elections?

I expect Republicans will lose nearly every seat the consensus now labels as tossup.

Note: I am not a Democrat and have not voted for either a Republican or Democrat candidate for president for decades, but I have never missed a national election in my life.

For my explanation, please see I Wrote In “Mish” for President of the United States

I strongly dislike the main candidates for multiple reasons, so I wrote in myself. Here’s my campaign pledge and platform.

Reader Question: What could possibly be gained by talking that way?
Mish Answer: I have commented before, Trump prefers MAGA adoration, power, and insulting people more than he wants to win an election.

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Martyn Wheeler
Martyn Wheeler
1 month ago

The Supreme Court exists solely to uphold the Constitution. Popular opinion is irrelevant, especially since one of the main purposes of the Constitution is to protect the minority from the majority.

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  Martyn Wheeler

That was a good one. Tell us another 6th grade joke from civics class!

Pedro
Pedro
1 month ago

The orange moron is self destructing , probably subconsciously. Classic self sabotage

Hopefully he keeps is up and is irrelevant after November midterms

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  Pedro

As long as Trump has constant access to the nuclear football and is POTUS, your wish will never be granted.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago

Savage is right in one regard.
The airplane overrules all other considerations.
Just as real-estate value is about location, many principles are about context.

ius soli is a clear, rational, and fair principle. But air travel vitiates all considerations about belonging to the soil where you are born, and you cannot just pretend that “anchor baby” is equivalent to times past where being born somewhere naturally conferred a certain right to stay. Just as the emancipation of slaves and their children vitiated the normal path of residency and citizenship requirements, airplanes vitiate ius soli.

This is not a constitutional argument, but some issues are not a constitutional matter, just as you should not ask yourself what Jesus thought about automobiles or telephones.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago
Reply to  Webej

The classic “The founding fathers wouldn’t want you to have a modern gun!” argument has been tried and soundly rejected by SCOTUS, so this line of thinking goes nowhere. If it were the case, the entire constitution would mean nothing because someone could just go “well things changed so now we need to be able to make people testify against themselves”, thus ignoring the whole thing.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  Creamer

Nope. The constitution is about legal principles.

With legal principles the crucial thing is to discern when they apply, in which case. That is why the guy in charge is called a judge. What is proportional? When does mercy make more sense than blind rules? When is there a call for leniency or when do circumstances mitigate the facts? How great is the damage? Is the remedy worse than the transgression?

And whether private citizens should be allowed the use of nuclear devices or chemical weapons remains a question you cannot simply decide on the basis of the 2nd amendment.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago
Reply to  Webej

No, the bill of rights is about inalienable rights. I recommend you try to read it and understand the word “inalienable” for a moment or two. The Constitution as a whole is above other documents because it represents fundamental rights to all Americans which cannot be infringed upon. The only question is in interpretation, which is left to the SCOTUS.

For something this plainly worded, you’d have to be a moron to even think SCOTUS will entertain the thought.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago

Every person who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ should be offended by Trump. If my kids spoke to people the way he does they would be punished accordingly. The fact that grown ass adults that call themselves “Christians” have any respect for him at all should tell you all you need to know about the average intelligence of Americans today.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Christianity needs to clean out its closet. Open apostasy, idol worship, cruelty. You name it and mainstream “Christians” (mostly Baptists) are gleefully doing it.

As a reminder, Southern Baptists are so called because they split from Baptists due to their still not rejected belief that slavery is a fundamental part of Christianity. Makes you wonder where this rot came in from.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Being a Christian doesn’t change you in any discernible way. In fact, I find that the people who most identify with their Christian faith are generally the least moral. It’s kind of how you know the whole thing is just a grift to get money out of the flock’s pockets and into the pockets of the preachers. But hey, it works, cause the Baptists recreated God in the image of an Alabama redneck.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon

Tell someone it’s okay for them to do something bad because some God said it will all be forgiven so long as you say I am your savior. Why wouldn’t that work on a bunch of immoral lowlifes?

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Instead of intelligence I expected “commitment to practicing the religion they preach” i.e. fake Christians

Mark
Mark
1 month ago

Any “negative” comments from Trump is a huge positive for the target because it confirms that we have created an itch in an unreachable orifice of Trump AND since everyone in the world knows what an (A#$/Hell) hole he is, it can only reflect positively on his target :).

We sympathize with Americans who are suffering under this overweight, overbearing Moron, but its of their own choosing and hopefully November will bring glad tidings.

Hopefully they don’t foist another Biden/Trump on the unsuspecting American public !!!

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago

1. “Aside from Mindless MAGAs (MMs), MAGA Morons if you prefer a dual-purpose acronym, there is a certain percentage of hard-core bigots and racists in this country.
I don’t know that percentage.
I would like to believe it’s less than 35 percent, but I really don’t know.”

To be fair, I suspect that there is considerable overlap between the two categories (MAGA Morons and Hardcore Racists).

2. .Interesting that Israel (sacred cow alert!) does one better than birthright citizenship, with any person claiming Jewish ancestry able to come to Israel and claim citizenship.

For some mystifying reason, this doesn’t seem to bother Trump when he falsely claims that nobody else does birthright citizenship.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

You can cancel your “rïght to return” by renouncing Judiasm or Jewishness.
The Israeli state is founded on “tribalism” or better, ethnic dogmatism.
Even for citizens and inhabitants, you rights depend entirely on belonging to the right tribe.

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Since2008
Since2008
1 month ago

It’s easy to be misunderstood and it’s hard to say how people will interpret a comment, but I would think that the statement he made will offend most Americans who are trying to emigrate to those countries because it implies their judgment is bad and that they want to emigrate to a place he believes is worse to live in than the U.S.

I wish people wouldn’t make insensitive statements like what he said.

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago

he wants to offend them. the article is written as if Trump made some thoughtless blunder. He didn’t.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
1 month ago

Do we want to be honest or be PC? Third world people bring their culture with them and that often conflicts with the indigenous culture. Immigrants should be vetted and we need to take adaptability into that equation. Call me racist but that is my opinion.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

You’re a racist. How many native American languages do you speak? If the answer is zero then don’t complain when the common language spoken in the US is Spanish, Hindu or Mandarin at some point down the line.

“The meek shall inherit the earth” is all you need to know about who gets to “own” a land.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Inherit the land does not mean own it.
The prophets railed against land ownership, and feudal Europe did not have land ownership either, only fiefdom. Even the King did not own the land, he held it as a vassal [to God].

And he has every right to complain if the common language is no longer the language of his fathers.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  Webej

“And he has every right to complain if the common language is no longer the language of his fathers.”

Lol. Everyone has a right to complain about whatever they want, but I merely pointed out that languages change all the time all over the world. If your language is failing then that’s on you not on anyone else.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Or it could be because the government is trying to breed the ethnic or racial population that speaks that language out of the gene pool. Governments do that, you know. Like what’s happening in Europe due to the unnatural, artificial, and government subsidized influx of foreign cultures from ME and Africa. Jackass.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Your definition of racism is wrong then. Like Neal Bortz used to say, and he used the dictionary definition from the 1800s before liberals started trying to change the meaning of words, racism is the belief in the inherent superiority of one race over another. Observing that different cultures conflict and suggesting we use that to inform how much we allow a foreign culture to mix with ours is in no way saying one of the cultures is superior to the other.

Speaking a foreign language has nothing to do with it and is a fallacious argument. How many different types of native Americans are you fostering or doing a cultural exchange with or sharing your “profitgasms” with? None? Guess that makes you racist!

Jon L
Jon L
1 month ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

“indigenous” – do you know how rediculous that sounds. …or apologies if you really are a native American.

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

Are you Comanche or maybe descend from the Mexicans before their territory was stolen from Mexico?

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Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

“Third world people bring their culture with them and that often conflicts with the indigenous culture.”

True. My East Asian and Indian friends keep bringing a culture of hard work, education and family ties with them. I keep telling them if they want to fit in here, they need to buy some guns, do some meth and shoot up some school kids. They’re destroying our great country! /s

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

GFY, racist

Tom
Tom
1 month ago

He needs a distraction from his failed war, which was a distraction from his failed Epstein cover up.
Then he needs to distract you from the insider trading, crypto grift, tarrif debacle, ICE goons, and greenland.
I’m sure I’m forgetting a few more.

cambeiu
cambeiu
1 month ago

I am no fan of Ronald Reagan, but this is where he stood on immigration:

Shinning City Upon a Hill: https://youtu.be/khi08rq3oI4?si=QexRfZuyrntAiXtK

And to think that today’s mainstream GOP are a bunch of overt rabid racists.

“…and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors. And the doors were open to ANYONE with the will and the heart to get here. That is how I saw it and see it still.”

-Ronald Reagan

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Jon L
Jon L
1 month ago

If I were Chinese or Indian I would be laughing now.

I know which country really is a hellhole and it certainly isn’t in Asia.

For example – I see way more people with mental health problems on the streets, left behind by society in the US than in Asia. …and it is morally way worse in the US as it has the capacity to do something about it but chooses not to.

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon L

One sixth of the Usonian teenagers and above use illicit drugs regularly. One tenth of young Usonian women prostitute themselves on OnlyFans. One fifth of the Usonian children and teenagers are obese. What a 💩 hole country to drive its people to such a decadent behavior!

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Pedro
Pedro
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon L

Exacty, the ignorant MM’s have probably never taken a trip out of the USA. If they did they’d be really pissed about how shitty their life is compared to other countries

Infrastructure, healthcare, job opportunities, democracy, etc. ….

The USA has turned into a plutocratic slave plantation

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  Pedro

It’s called human farming

peter
peter
1 month ago

I wonder if Usha Vance likes Trump now? Will she vote for him next time her runs?

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  peter

Do you really think she actually voted for him last time?

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago

Mass immigration of people who barely speak English (or not at all) and have no real liking of or loyalty to their new country (they are just here to make money) has destroyed Canada completely, and that is an undeniable fact. Come to Brampton, Ont and see it for yourself. These immigrants stick to themselves, and do not become part of the larger community.

And they do only hire themselves, once for example an Indian immigrant becomes a manager here in Canada, they only hire other Indians. This was actually documented in a study of SIlicon Valley companies, who once they got Indian HR staff, pretty much only hired other Indians. They are racists, but of course, only whites can be racist today. A guy I work with had his son go to a Tim Horton’s (about as “Canadian” as you can get, and he was told by the Indian manager “we only hire Indians, you won’t fit in here”- true story.

“Libertarians” are naive morons, it sounds great in theory, but in the real world, others will never leave you alone to be libertarian.

Sure calling other countries hellholes is offensive, but the underlying fact remains true. If you allow in too many foreigners, you become the foreign country they left. How about the UK, where the most common name now is Mohammed? When they turn Canterbury Cathedral into a Mosque, is that okay?

You try to immigrate to one of those countries and then change their laws and customs to suit you, and find out how far you will get – nowhere.

Mish is hopelessly naive, how he imagines things are is not how the real world works. Trump is an idiot, and Savage is crude and rude, but the basic underlying facts are entirely true – when you allow too many Third World in, you become the Third World.

Like here in Canada, where they have to put up signs telling your precious “immigrants” not to defecate on public beaches and in public parks, because that is what they are used to doing back home. Seriously. A guy was arrested here recently for actually cooking a cat in a public park, where do you think he was from? Take a guess Mish.

Jon L
Jon L
1 month ago
Reply to  Fubar111111

Would love to hear how you teach your kids. The same hate?

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon L

Hate. Uh huh. Sure. Because simply observing what happens around you, connecting cause and effect, and then telling others what you observed and how you see the cause/effect relationships is hateful. To me it’s not hateful but rather just the opposite of naive. Discriminating based on actual behavior is not a bad thing. It’s not racist either. It’s how we survive.

I don’t believe in the inherent superiority of Whites over Indians (that is the definition of racism) but I sure as shit will think twice before getting Subway sandwiches if the place is run by Indians. Why? Because I have enough observations and experience with food poisoning to make that mistake again. My next door neighbor is Muslim, great guy, gives me delicious gifts during Ramadan, feels the same way. Does that make him racist too? Or just a guy interested in not getting food poisoning again?

I also do not assume that an Indian with a college degree is any good at what their degree is in. Why? RAMPANT cheating at my university. Indians who took the morning offering of my science or math or engineering class would give the Indians who took the afternoon offering the test questions. We had an Indian in my freshman class who was only 16; everyone thought he was a whiz kid, including me, until some of us found out he was cheating. I mentioned this to an older Pakistani I worked with, great guy, a Christian actually; his parents lived close.to where the India/Pakistan border…back in the day when the Paki Muslims came around and threatened him and his parents with death if they didn’t convert, his parents got the hell out. He questioned me as to why I held my view, so I explained my observations and how they led to my conclusions. Once he understood I wasn’t being racist, he totally agreed with me. Said cheating to get degrees was rampant with Indians because they are that desperate to GTFO to America or wherever else they can get to for a better life (suggesting that where they came from was a hellhole). Do these observations and this permanent question in my mind based on my *lived experience* make me racist? No.

I will never work for an East Asian ever again. Why? I worked for a Taiwanese woman and later a Vietnamese man. They treated their employees like shit. Everywhere they went. Including me. Apparently East Asians view employees as existing to serve the boss. Eventually they both were removed from their management positions at least once each (effectively fired from the position but not fired from the organization). Does that make me a hater or racist? Or just a guy who is trying to support his family who doesn’t want to die from a heart attack due to the stress or dread going to work every day?

Wanting to survive and not potentially die from food poisoning and, if I have my own business, wanting my business to survive and not suffer from potentially hiring employees who cheated their way through school doth not a hater or racist make. Like with FUBAR, it sometimes is just behavior motivated by a desire to survive and thrive.

Jon L
Jon L
1 month ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

Lovely – perhaps you could give Fubar some parenting tips.

todde
todde
1 month ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

if you judge someone by the color of their skin that is by definition racism.

do you think affirmative action policies are racist?

whether you hate another person’s race has nothing to do with it.

Josh
Josh
29 days ago
Reply to  todde

Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Prove me wrong.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon L

Where’s the hate?
You are the one bringing up hate.

Jon L
Jon L
1 month ago
Reply to  Webej

Uhh..try reading the comment as if you were an immigrant…you would very quickly see hate. Your kids must be lovely darlings too if you bring them up this way.

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
1 month ago
Reply to  Fubar111111

Tribalism is alive and well. When I worked in the government (BLS) one ethnic group ran the show and a long list of commissioners were from that ethic group.. They hired their own tribe for the most part, although not entirely. One other office was run by a graduate of a catholic college and most of his staff were graduates of catholic colleges Tribalism isn’t restricted to Indians.

Flavia
Flavia
1 month ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

Of course he hired Catholics: they work hard, do not complain, and never ask for a raise 🙂

Last edited 1 month ago by Flavia
Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  MelvinRich

Tribalism is natural.
Do you care more about the death of your own daughter than some random girl in Mexico or Indonesia getting into a traffic accident?

Objectively, their lives are of equal worth.
But it’s absolutely silly to confuse universal values with loyalty for your own family, kin, neighbors, and yes, tribe. Why do you think there are tribes everywhere?

The silly thing is to pretend you have somehow transcended the natural human condition. Self-defense & self-preservation is the most basic right from which all others derive, and it is absolutely the basis of all animal existence.

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  Fubar111111

Isn’t that how those Englishmen decimated the livelihood of the Iroquois and other tribes? Karma is a bitch!

François Dubreuil
François Dubreuil
1 month ago

Reading that I was more thinking there 2.8 billions of people living in India and china whi could and should be offended.
And china is t
alrrady he biggest economy in power purchase parity.
China is supposed to help with Iran war ending…
Trump insults and despises everyone else it seems

J K
J K
1 month ago

I agree with Trump with birthright citizenship. You cannot pay for people who come here and have a child, goes on welfare and then the whole family goes on welfare. I work in an industry where I see this. We have a 39 trillion financial hole which is not being helped by this and other waste in our government for example these nonstop wars started by both political parties.

I understand Trump is against this, but he has to realize this has to be changed legislatively. Obvious, the Democrat’s will oppose this and so will many Republicans. Doesn’t matter because when the United States declares bankruptcy, we will endure many changes whether we like it or not.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago
Reply to  J K

So can you point out how many times this happens? Quantify it for us?

Tom
Tom
1 month ago
Reply to  Creamer

Apparently once is enough to end voting so I’ll guess one.

JCH1952
JCH1952
1 month ago
Reply to  J K

Every single baby who was born on US soil I have known in my life whose parents were foreigners is now a doctor.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  JCH1952

Nonsense. Some of those babies also grow up to be engineers, mathematicians and the like.

As one trailer park redneck I know put it “immigrants are what built this country. Immigrants and their kids. The problem is that, after a couple of generations, they become as lazy and useless as regular Americans so we have to bring in more immigrants just to get anything done.”

Jackula
Jackula
1 month ago

The true MGA minority are policy oriented. I prefer to call the Trump lemmings Trumpista’s. It’s got a good tin pot dictator ring to it. Meanwhile Trump is doing his best to turn the whole world into a hellhole to avoid admitting he made a mistake

‘Lil Mr.
‘Lil Mr.
1 month ago

MMs are like flat earthers and religious literalists. They’ve bought into the movement so hard they have a community that they can’t quit. But Taco can even insult them, he loves the uneducated, after all, and they just come back for more.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago

Well I called it early and correctly, every post this week is getting 3-star Mishelin award.

But if you take Trump (79), Michael Savage (84) and the majority of MAGA, what do you have? The 79+ racist geezer squad on their way to the graveyard. It’s time to go die..die!

“‘Trump prefers MAGA adoration, power, and insulting people more than he wants to win an election.”

And as a result democrats will win big and America will get woke, dei, open borders and that’s all the sweet poetic justice and karma any one really needs….lol!

“The ironing is delicious” -Bart Simpson.

Do worry, Trump will find a way to make things even worse.™

Tom
Tom
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

There are a lot of very racist mysogynistic children coming of age. Those old fuckers breed.
Andrew Tate & Fuentes are not one of these old fuckers who need hurry up and die,they are the young fuckers. 🙂

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom

Maybe true but the US is in a demographic death spiral, the ONLY way to prevent that is to import people. So by natural attrition, there will be only one path forward.

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
1 month ago

Anyone with any integrity is a “racist.” Taking care of your own children and not all children in the world equally is “racist.” Some people are just hypocrites. Some are genuinely stupid.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
1 month ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

That’s not what racist means, dipshit.

You fit into “genuinely stupid.”

Limey
Limey
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

For an Ozzie, yes he does appear to be genuinely dull, or he’s trolling.

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
1 month ago
Reply to  Limey

Are you under the impression that Ozzies are intelligent? I think we’re about the same as Americans. That’s not too bright, unfortunately. A lot of us, like a lot of you, think we’re smart if we suck up and babble the sick stuff propounded by the education system. That’s religion, not intelligence.

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
1 month ago

Offending others, cussing, daily lying and abhorrent behavior are all in a day’s work for this disgusting and incompetent politician.

Peace
Peace
1 month ago

I asked about Corruption by Trump and his family. Response is too long. I tried to shorten it.

After Trump and his family enrich themselves massively.
Trump makes major mistakes like in Iran.

Trump needs foolish MAGA to support him.

Yes, House Democrats have formally accused President Trump and his family of “massive corruption,” making this a central political and investigative focus ahead of the 2026 midterm elections.
💰 The Core Allegations of CorruptionThe central allegations include:

  • Billions in Family Profits: President Trump and his family have generated nearly $2.25 billion in risk-free profits from their various ventures since returning to office, and as much as $9.7 billion when including unrealized “paper wealth” from digital assets .
  • Cryptocurrency and “Digital Grift”: They argue these digital currencies provide a secretive way for foreign interests to funnel money to the president with no transparency .
  • Foreign Deals: The Trump Organization has continued to conduct business deals in at least eight foreign countries, including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Vietnam. creating conflicts of interest .
  • Focus on Jared Kushner: Specific scrutiny has fallen on Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. His private equity firm, Affinity Partners, which received a $2 billion investment from a Saudi sovereign wealth fund

🏛️ Political Strategy: The Anti-Corruption Task ForceThe strategy has multiple goals:

  • Messaging for the Midterms:
  • Building an Investigative Machine: .
  • Proposed Reforms:

🛡️ The White House ResponseThe White House has strongly denied all allegations of corruption.

  • Official Denials:
  • Accusation of Politics: Trump’s legal team and allies have called the investigations a “political hoax,” a “fishing expedition,” and “pure politics,” arguing they are illegitimate attempts to target the president for partisan gain .
Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago

Every day, Trump does something to offend more voters.”

Then if you believe this to be important such that these actions will help those opposed to Trump in the coming elections, then shouldn’t you be cheering him on instead of trying to help him do better?

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

The trend to offend will continue regardless of any cheers or jeers.
As King Chaos the Shit Talker listens to no one and has no self-control.
The days of “seldom is heard a disparaging word” are long gone.
Instead, the end is near, and the skies are cloudy all day.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago

“The sky is falling! The sky is falling!”
–Chicken Little

Tom
Tom
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Never encourage an idiot.
He is doing a fine job on his own.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 month ago

interesting wording: with the knowledge and resources needed to navigate U.S. immigration compliance
Good school started my masters here:https://oiss.washu.edu/

Peace
Peace
1 month ago

Clearly this is the racist statement – Only the Europeans have right.

Here is Lee Kwan Yew quote –

“China can draw on a talent pool of 1.3 billion people, but the United States can draw on a talent pool of 7 billion and recombine them in a diverse culture that enhances creativity in a way that ethnic Han nationalism cannot.”

The problem is foolish leadership. They enrich themselves. Pay less tax. Put blame on minorities and others.
Like after they make mistakes in Iran they need scapegoat to blame.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  Peace

‘Diverse culture’ is an ignorant contradictio in terminis

Imagine everyone has their own notion of traffic color lights.

Culture refers to the way you raise crops, prepare food, and build bridges.
Culture has to unify people in a society.
Society means literally people living together.
That requires some form of common culture (language, habits, values, rules).

Russel F.
Russel F.
1 month ago

Birthright Citizenship is a crazy-GOOD idea for any nation looking to the future. Every baby born is a new thing – no matter how bigoted and crazy-religious or culturally nutty the parents are. The new life starts afresh – and a clever nation with smart, future-focused leaders and wise citizens, will want to harvest every new life it can. The nation that wallows in past fears and historical-hates (like, ah, maybe …. take your pick of racist cultural models -radical Islamics, Jews, Marxists, Flat-Earthers, whatever…) cannot become anything beyond what is is now. The success of the USA, and other future-focused societies, happens for reasons, by design. Trump is trying to break and change the model that made America so crazy-successful. Wise folks should ask why he wants to do this.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Russel F.

🤣🤣🤣

We don’t need more people. Robots are going to be doing more and more jobs that humans currently do with each passing year.

J K
J K
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Absolutely correct. I don’t understand why this focus on humans. Every day, you see news about AI and humanoids replacing humans. So what’s the point of more humans? People are incapable of thinking outside their emotions.

Tom
Tom
1 month ago
Reply to  J K

You would make a good Vulcan

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom

Is he as smart? A ChatGPT account doesn’t count.

Last edited 1 month ago by Augustine
Tom
Tom
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Absolutely. I need to spend $80,000 so I can watch a machine break my dishes while it explains that i need to add more glue tomy pizza to keep tje pepperoni from falling off.

Maybe in another few decades, right after the FSD release.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom

Pay attention! And only a few thousand $. Cheap at twice the price!

The future of home help is here

Figure 03 is a general purpose humanoid robot for every day.

https://www.figure.ai/

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Well, we could easily replace your posts with a rather simple bot.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

I am not replaceable!

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

That’s perhaps how the plan etched on the Georgia Guidestones will be accomplished. People think that it’ll be the end of scarcity, but rather that’s when the owner class, AKA the Epstein class, will at last achieve its millennium old wet dream of getting rid of the proles once and for all, when they won’t have to tolerate the existence of those beneath them for the sake of producing and consuming for the benefit of their class. Welcome to Zardoz!

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Augustine

People keep trying to imagine the future using the rules of the present. That’s where future projections begin to break down.

Consider the idea of ownership, which is fundamental to many. Ownership is tied to identity, status and security. But that only works in a world where resources are limited and access has to be controlled.

If AI and autonomous systems get to the point where they can reliably produce and distribute everything people need, then ownership stops being important. It is no longer important because it stops mattering.

If you can have what you need, when you need it, the idea of “this is mine” loses all meaning.

In this coming, post-scarcity world, AI systems and their robotic workers will provide food, housing, healthcare, perform manufacturing, etc. Human needs will be taken care of without the need for humans offering labor in trade.

Survival will no longer be tied to the perceived value of one’s labor, whether physical or mental. Jobs will no longer exist. No one will need to work to have a roof over their head or to eat. Money will no longer have value and so will disappear.

The main thing everyone misses is that our present economic system is built around resource scarcity. If scarcity stops being the defining constraint, then the system built on top of it doesn’t carry forward.

Tomorrow won’t be just a more efficient, more productive version of today. It will be something completely different!

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  Russel F.

How about a billion babies then?
And their families?

What crazy success?
Is the current position of the US mainly due to the single vector of anchor babies?

Otterpater
Otterpater
1 month ago

Just curious Miss. Have you ever been to China or India. Asking for a friend. I would prefer you didn’t get into your TDS rants about Trump and stick to economics. I’ve been to 103 countries and have a broad spectrum of appreciation for what countries look like. I took two friends to Delhi and Chennai last year and they were blown away at the poor people who have no life. My law firm had an office in Hong Kong and Beijing – I’ve been in those countries and have a better idea than you of what you are dealing with. Oh, and while I’m at it, please drop the four letter words. It is demeaning to you. I think your vocabulary is better than that.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Code for being too cowardly to ask it for themselves

Avery2
Avery2
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Mish, the Chicago Chinatown 5k is coming up in 3 months. Year Of The Flaming Horse T shirts. Always a fun event –

https://www.chinatown5k.org/

If coming in on the early morning Metra lines to downtown it’s a good warmup jog south to the starting line on Cermak.

Proceeds go to local charities.

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

This is not about Trump, though you made it about him for this article.

Mass imigration of people who have no interest in the traditions and culture of their new country is bad. The melting pot worked, every nation and nationality came, and became Americans. Now these people identify as natives of the coutnry they came from, even thought they arent’t there anymore. What country were your forefathers from Mish? Do you still identify yourself as of that nation? (I think not, but most of them do).

I work with Chinese and Indians (and I get along fine with them) who always say their “home” is not Canada, it’s back there. They go on holiday every year “back home”. They could not care less about Canada, except how much money they can make here, and how much better things are here than back in India or China, comparitively, but they still don’t identify in the slightest as Canadian, they are Indian or Chinese, period. Maybe their kids who grow up here will feel differently, but since they stay exclusively in their own cultural silos, I doubt it. You are right its all about the economics, they see it that way, they can make more money here and live a better life, but still remain as citizens of their country of origin in their own minds.

These are actual factual situations I have seen right in front of me, you can call me names or whatever, I guess I should just not believe my own lying eyes, right?

And I don’t support Trump, or listen to Savage. I just want immigrants to fit in here and be respectful of those who go there before them, not try to make this country into a copy of their home country to suit themselves..
Even arch liberal Angela Merkel admitted multi-culturism is a failed policyfor Germany, and that applies to any country.

Try emigrating to China, and setting up an “American Town” where all the signs are in English and everybody speaks only English, and see how far you get. The Chinese would run you out very quickly.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 month ago
Reply to  Otterpater

I have been to both. India is indeed a poor country for the vast majority of Indians. The wealth there is very concentrated.

China, however, is amazing. I have been there more than a dozen times. They are so far ahead of us in so many ways, it makes me think you don’t know what you are talking about. Or you are just a liar.

Have you travelled on their high speed trains, visited their amazing cities, observed their modern architecture that puts ours to shame?

I’m thinking you are in fact a MAGA from buttfuck Arkansas who has never been more than a hundred miles from his hometown.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Wow! It’s NIRVANA! Hail Chairman Xi!!

Have you actually been to the hither lands, outside the cities? From my reading, China is a huge country with a huge, mainly poverty stricken population. I have not been there myself but poverty is rampant outside of the trophy cities. That is why many in rural areas migrate to the cities, seeing their families only once a year, in hopes of making enough money to send some back to help support their families. Unemployment is also quite high and people are forced to work insane hours when they do find work.

Sure, China is making large advances in technology but that is a two-edged sword that is displacing more and more of their workers. It is inevitable that China will have to find a way to kill off a large number of their population as they replace their jobs with robots and technology. They don’t have the health system or social services that the US, Canada and the EU offer and cannot care for a large, hungry popualtion.

Laid Off in Midlife, China’s Reform Generation Braces for Downward Mobility

The future once seemed boundless for those who grew up during China’s reform era. Now in middle age, they are pinned between economic stagnation and institutional age discrimination.

Li Yuan

March 21, 2026, 12:00 a.m. ET

Harry Guo built a life that defined success in China. Born in 1971, he came of age in the 1990s, when China deepened its economic reforms. He taught himself computing and found his way into jobs in multinational firms and then Chinese internet giants. By his mid-40s, he was comfortably middle class. He and his wife paid off two mortgages early and sent their daughter to high school and college in Canada.

Then Mr. Guo was laid off. Now 55, he has not had a job in more than two years. It’s not for lack of trying. The supermarket near his Beijing apartment won’t hire cashiers over 50. The warehouse where he inquired about work turned him away. An acquaintance who runs a small business told him, with some embarrassment, that his age made him unemployable.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/21/business/laid-off-in-midlife-chinas-reform-generation-braces-for-downward-mobility.html

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

From your reading! Lol! I suggest you go to China and see for yourself. Then you wouldn’t sound like such a dumb fuck.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

“Have you actually been to the hither lands, outside the cities? From my reading, China is a huge country with a huge, mainly poverty stricken population”

Lol.. Weren’t you the one complaining about woke blue cities and states that “everyone” was leaving because they are under decay? Too many homeless? Too many woke universities? So which is it, are blue cities terrible places or are they 10x better than China?

Have you been to Detroit? Appalachian? How about east or west Texas?

You’ll can find poverty anywhere. Here is a collection of videos about abandoned rural areas all over America. Watch them and educate yourself. I assume many would match those in China and India.

https://www.youtube.com/@JoeandNicsRoadTrip/videos

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Amazing videos showing what a shit hole country the US is becoming. Lots from Arkansas where Otterpater lives.

‘Lil Mr.
‘Lil Mr.
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Wow! Sounds like the US when people left the farms for better jobs in the cities. And just after the Great Recession when companies downsized and laid off lots of middle management. You see ageism isn’t just a Chinese thing. Happens during recessions and cutbacks all the time. They have like 10 good, reliable ev auto makers. Good prices too. Thanks to taco Canada will buy their’s. They have lots of really good tech. But we’re all going to have to with deal the disruption from Ai. No industrialized countries will be immune from that. I just don’t want to live in a surveillance state. But America is probably going to join that crowd unless we take back our government.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  ‘Lil Mr.

But America is probably going to join that crowd unless we take back our government.”

I always wonder who these “we” are? How many are there? Where are they? Why haven’t they taken back the government yet (I thought that was what the Trump election was all about)?

Iran has a 70% or so of its population in the “we” group. NK is probably close to 100%. Yet neither of these countries with hugely dissatisfied populations have done anything to forward the displacement of their hated governments.

Here’s the reality – In 20 year sor so, an AI is going to be running the world and there will not be any governments at all. Will this make you happy?

peter
peter
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

1.3 billion people and you tell us about a single guy…and stolen from that bastion of truth “the NYTimes”?

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  peter

Show us your side. What ya got, worm?

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago

“Weiner” lol!

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
1 month ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Weiner say the words “made me very disturbed”…
but me thinks…
Weiner very disturbed to begin with.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

What could possibly be gained by talking that way?

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

Distraction from personal failures.

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