Trump Prefers Chaos
Please consider Republicans In Swing States Were Fixing Vote-By-Mail Systems. Then Trump Tweeted.
Michigan
Early this year, Michigan advanced a bipartisan measure to let election officials take absentee ballots out of their mailing envelopes — but not to unseal the ballots or count them — the day before Election Day.
Pennsylvania
Democrats and many of the state’s election officials have called for state legislators, who are meeting this week, to change the law so that election officials can begin to process ballots days or weeks before Election Day.
That could mean simply opening the envelopes in which ballots arrive without unsealing the ballots, or opening the ballots and tallying the votes without publicly reporting the results.
But Pennsylvania Republicans have said that tallying votes before Election Day will not be allowedOnly a year ago, State Rep. Kevin Boyle pointed out, nearly every Republican in the statehouse joined Democrats in expanding the option of no-excuse absentee voting to most Pennsylvania voters. “It was not a partisan issue whatsoever,” he said. “Republicans did not express any reticence, didn’t express any misgivings that this was somehow beneficial to Democrats or it was corrupt or would be used for corrupt purposes, until now.”
Wisconsin
In Wisconsin, the Republican-controlled state legislature has altogether ignored calls to prepare for a tidal wave of mail-in ballots.
Trump Encourages Vote Fraud
Precious Vote Counting
- Trump tells people to vote early then show up again to see if their vote has been counted and if not to vote again.
- Meanwhile Republicans will not even allow ballots to be opened, let alone counted by election day.
- Oh. God Bless America.
Law and Order
That process is of course called “Law and Order”.
Election Night Chaos
If things go according to plan, Trump will be in the lead on election night.
The election results could look something like the above Bloomberg Group Projection.
I highly doubt it is that extreme, but it’s possible. Compare to my extreme possibility above.
Yet, even three states, say Florida, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin could delay the winner for several days or longer.
270-To-Win
That is how 270-to-Win sees things right now.
I would move Georgia to light pink and Arizona to light blue. Otherwise, I agree.
Possible Election Night Map
In the above map I assumed Trump would win North Carolina and Ohio outright but lose Arizona outright leaving just three states undecided, not an unrealistic possibility.
I believe that is more unlikely than my Extreme Election Night map, but it is not at all far-fetched.
Something in between those two maps is highly likely.
All it will take is for the news outlets to refuse to make a call and Trump to refuse to admit he lost.
For further discussion, please see As Trump Endorses Election Fraud, It’s No Longer “Pretty Early”.
Mish
Classic Trump troll move!
Everyone says he’s lying about how mail-in ballots will raise the fraud level through the roof.
He quietly – in his usual fun way – pokes holes in the argument.
By telling his supporters to vote twice.
Because: if you go in person, any paper ballot with your name gets rejected.
Now: YOU might have sent it in and forgotten. Or you might have signed up for one and not sent it in. But ALSO: some Dem operative somewhere might have harvested your ballot and sent it in for you. Or some boiler-room op somewhere may have done this for thousands. Or maybe thousands of R votes get dumped by a biased postal worker into the nearest landfill.
Going to the polls in person is the best way to counteract any shenanigans with R votes.
Now if the Dems want to inflate their own votes, that tactic won’t have any effect. The Press won’t report it when 110% of a district votes making for a D win because the Press doesn’t like to publish anything critical of their side.
In any case, Mish, you just got punked. Again.
Telling his people to vote twice is the hook.
The real meat is that the walk-in vote causes the paper ballot vote of the same name to get annulled lessening the scope of fraud using R voter names. Not foolproof, but better.
Why are we changing the way we elect a president when everyone is declaring fraud? It’s seems rather logical to not introduce universal, or mail in, voting. If we want a secure Election Day, why are we demanding that we mail everyone a ballot? If we want to mail a ballot we should request an absentee ballot months before. But to rush a massive change like universal voting seems insane and will only delay results. We should have results like we always do, on the night of, not weeks or months later.
I don’t agree at all with my own party as it seems like we’re trying to rig things. Liberals like me no longer have a party to call home.
Why are we changing the way we elect a president when everyone is declaring fraud? It’s seems rather logical to not introduce universal, or mail in, voting. If we want a secure Election Day, why are we demanding that we mail everyone a ballot? If we want to mail a ballot we should request an absentee ballot months before. But to rush a massive change like universal voting seems insane and will only delay results. We should have results like we always do, on the night of, not weeks or months later.
I don’t agree at all with my own party as it seems like we’re trying to rig things. Liberals like me no longer have a party to call home.
You must be a young person. Maybe you have heard of Covid-19? Some of us at risk (I am a older Veteran) would rather not have to risk a crowd at the polls to vote, though I have decided to go to the polls. It is really interesting how the party not in power, and not in power in the majority of states which run elections can RIG the election. Nonsense on its face.
The best thing I can say about Trump is that he has exposed The party for what it really is. He will lose the election but continue the war that breaks families and friendships. I have cancelled many family members. A grandmother who will never see her grandchildren. A brother I will never speak to again and so many other cancellations. I’m done with Republicans.
The deadline in most states to vote by mail is well before election day. So this means votes will be counted on election day. Postal workers are no friend of Trump. They could deliver ballots early to states.
It is the communist Democrats who are turning America into a banana republic.
It is the Democratic run cities that look like Beirut, and they look that way because of the communist terrorists who support Biden. That is what the voters will decide in November, whether we want to hand the reigns of power over to communists and terrorists who want to turn our country into a communist state….
Mish, your TDS is seriously effecting your credibility. Even Michael Moore has conceded Trump is on the path to victory. No one is going to vote for a mentally deficient Biden, and his radical socialist VP. After the election you will be outed and identified as the biased political pawn that you are proving to be. You really need to stick to economics, as your political views are way too biased for you to be taken seriously.
He sure created a lot of chaos the night he beat Hillary, can’t wait to watch the meltdown again!
He didn’t do that. He asked Russia to. His luck is about to run out come late September. I predict very bad things for Trump between late September until he is ushered out of office.
racist haters(democrats) won’t accept anything but full on election fraud
to get hiden the biden
of course if our state goes blue then I will never again follow any states laws(just like democrats)
What has Trump done in 4 years except rack up trillions in dept,funneled trillions to Wall Street while Main Street continues it’s steady rot and pretend he saved the world?Who does that remind you of? If you said barak ,go to the head of the food bank line!
He’s tripled the deficit, don’t leave out that accomplishment.
I think they should put on gloves and box it out.
Mish. Been reading your blog since 2005ish. First comment ever! Live in Tucson, AZ and married to a Mexican. I will be shocked if Trump loses AZ. Every single member of my wife’s family ( lots of cousins) all hated Trump 4 years ago. The majority now like him and have told me they are voting him this time around. I’ve been astounded how many Mexicans here are now behind him. My friend who works at the Union Pacific railyard here told me this week all the Mexican guys he works with there have almost all turned pro Trump. Mexicans are conservative people They laugh at things coming from liberals like LatinX. They like straight talkers and believe it or not they want border security. There is an under current of Trump support from Mexicans NOT being shown in polls. I’d say it’s somewhere around 30-40%. Possibly higher. Don’t underestimate the Hispanic vote nationally. Now the largest minority vote. Small biz owners, not politically correct, pro life/family. Immigrant mindset. Mark my words AZ was turning blue, however, Trump has turned that around. Put simply they like the guy now.
My instincts tell me Trump is losing, but I just traveled through rural Michigan and the Trump yard signs, flags, hats, shirts are far more than they were 4 years ago on Labor Day.
Yes, Republicans always do very well in rural Michigan, but it is a bit unreal the amount of Trump gear I’ve seen.
One possibility is that a large portion of his supporters love him dearly and are vocal, but not enough to make up for what Biden will get.
They can buy more gear. The money is going Trump. There are less votes per square mile in rural America then suburbs or cities. Turnout was low in these areas in Michigan in 2016.
Based on Senate race in Arizona,your evidence is anecdotal. McSally is down 13 points. Even if half that difference votes for Trump ( not likely), then Trump still has a huge number to overcome.
If I could change one thing about US elections it would be to announce the results 30 days from Election Day to allow for tabulation. No reason at all we have to know who won on the night of the election. Even if you have money on it. It’s just completely manufactured suspense for the idiots on the idiot box.
Better to have an accurate number over an expedient one.
Yes, I was even hoping some enlightened lawmakers turn it into a horse race atmosphere heightening the suspense, couldn’t see why media outlets wouldn’t love it for ad selling.
Preposterous, I know, like having an reality TV “star” as our president…
I would look for media to start projecting this rather than a winner. Trump’s nightmare is the votes being counted.
All this (repeated from 2016) talk about how Trump won’t concede is fun. But, the groundwork is already in place for Biden hang on for dear life. Remember how a (Democratic) pollster noted that true, mail-in results won’t be published until well after election night?
Aside from either or both candidates dying or otherwise dropping out (as many fans pray), the most entertaining result would be for more than one state to require a recount. Lawyers should be salivating at that prospect.
I’m calling a Trump win. I won’t vote for him, but if he can pick up Texas, PN or AZ (pick one), some northern states (WI, MN) and FL, the Democrats can’t win. And of course if Trump supporters vote twice, the chaos will indicate an early Trump win that might embolden Trump to delay leaving office even if he’s lost the popular vote.
My color map here: https://www.270towin.com/maps/Ql3bw tell me where you disagree, I think most of my state picks are reasonable, note I’m giving PA to the Democrats but the Republicans win AZ, a traditional “red” (neck!? lol I lived there for a while) state.
Trump will win, you read it here first. And three presidential debates will give Sleepy Joe ample opportunity to choke. Trump is an actually an excellent ‘folksy’ speaker, as I said before.
Trump is behind in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Arizona and Florida
I expect him to lose all of them.
Popcorn? Corn-growing farmers will be a big winner, because popcorn will be sold-out soon. tRump will prove to be the greatest clown ever!
Election night? Trump is looking to create chaos for the next 70 days until the election.
If he loses, the military needs to ignore any nuclear launch commands from him. He is just crazy enough to initiate a nuclear apocalypse.
The Trumpocolypse sounds like a Simpsons Episode.
It feels like someone is messing with the very fabric of reality.
He won’t start a war then, there is no profit in it.
Trump is Ferengi…
Have been reading people online loudly proclaiming landslides in both directions, these people are crazy. Barring a major unforeseen event over the next two months, it should be close as most US elections are nowadays.
Since we can expect a tight contest, these ugly scenarios of chaos and confusion are likely to occur. Buckle up, everybody!
There is about a 5% chance of a Trump landslide and a 40% chance of a Biden one. But first what constitutes a landslide?
Does this qualify?
In this case I’d say a landslide is an outcome where further counting isn’t needed after election night, a scenario where the result isn’t really in doubt. The vote tallying would still happen in the following days and weeks after a clear winner is announced. I could be wrong, but I see something closer to 2016, 2004, or 2000 instead of 2008.
To be clear, the crazy people I’m referencing are on places like ZH where they are conjuring images of Reagan/Mondale, no kidding.
I look forward to President Pelosi on January 20th.
She will definitely drive Fat Donnie from Queens crazy.
You’re assuming the Democrats take the House. That could be undecided as well.
VERY unlikely that the Dems will lose the House.
you got to be kidding me.
About a 2% chance Republicans win the House.
I believe it is 60% likely if not more Republicans lose the Senate