Trump is tired of this war. So, are war crimes the final solution?
Truth Social
Truth Social: The United States of America is in serious discussions with A NEW, AND MORE REASONABLE, REGIME to end our Military Operations in Iran. Great progress has been made but, if for any reason a deal is not shortly reached, which it probably will be, and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately “Open for Business,” we will conclude our lovely “stay” in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil Wells and Kharg Island (and possibly all desalinization plants!), which we have purposefully not yet “touched.” This will be in retribution for our many soldiers, and others, that Iran has butchered and killed over the old Regime’s 47 year “Reign of Terror.” Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
Mar 30, 2026, 5:26 AM
War Crimes Galore
One does not retaliate (should not retaliate) by blowing up civilian targets. To do so is a war crime.
Even threatening to do so is a war crime says my constitutional expert friend. But no one would hold Trump accountable.
War Crime Discussion
Mish to Grok: Please comment on the war crimes aspect of this.
Grok Response:
War-crimes analysis under international humanitarian law (IHL)IHL (primarily the Geneva Conventions, customary international law, and elements of Additional Protocol I that are widely accepted as binding) applies here because this is an active armed conflict. The core rules are distinction, proportionality, precautions in attack, and the specific ban on attacking objects indispensable to civilian survival. “War crime” status requires intent and commission (or ordering) of the prohibited act during armed conflict. A public threat alone is not automatically a war crime, but carrying it out as described would very likely cross into that territory for several reasons:
- Desalination plants (“possibly all desalinization plants”)
These are classic “objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population” (drinking water infrastructure). Additional Protocol I, Article 54 (widely regarded as customary law) explicitly prohibits attacking them, even if they have some dual-use value. Destroying them would foreseeably cause widespread civilian suffering (dehydration, disease, displacement) unrelated to any concrete military gain. This is one of the clearest potential war-crime triggers in the statement. Precedents: Similar attacks or threats have drawn strong condemnation and, in other conflicts (e.g., certain Russian actions in Ukraine), contributed to war-crimes investigations.- All electric generating plants
Power plants are frequently dual-use (they support both civilian life and military operations). IHL allows targeting genuine military objectives, but the phrasing “completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants” is sweeping and risks being indiscriminate or disproportionate. A nationwide blackout would cripple hospitals, water treatment, food refrigeration, civilian communications, etc., producing civilian harm that is excessive relative to the military advantage of denying the Iranian regime electricity. Past U.S./coalition strikes on Iraqi power infrastructure in 1991 were heavily criticized on exactly these grounds, though never prosecuted. Modern interpretations (ICRC, UN experts, ICC practice) treat blanket power-grid attacks that foreseeably cause mass civilian hardship as unlawful unless tightly targeted and necessary.- Oil wells and Kharg Island (Iran’s main oil export terminal)
This is the grayest area. Oil infrastructure can qualify as a military objective if it makes an “effective contribution to military action” (e.g., funding the war machine or supplying fuel to Iranian forces) and its destruction offers a “definite military advantage.” The U.S. has historically argued this for economic targets supporting an enemy war effort. However:
- “Completely obliterating all of their … Oil Wells” is extraordinarily broad and would produce massive environmental damage (oil spills, fires), which IHL also restricts (Additional Protocol I, Art. 55; customary law).
- Kharg Island is primarily an economic/export facility; its total destruction goes far beyond disabling specific military assets already struck earlier.
- The explicit motive stated — “in retribution for our many soldiers … that Iran has butchered” over 47 years — frames the action as punitive/collective punishment, which is strictly forbidden (Geneva Convention IV, Art. 33). Retribution is not “military necessity.” Legal intent matters: if the real aim is punishment rather than disabling the enemy’s current war capability, that crosses into war-crime territory.
- Overall context and “retribution” framing
IHL forbids collective punishment and reprisals against civilians or civilian objects. The post’s language (“lovely ‘stay’ in Iran,” “purposefully not yet ‘touched,’” “retribution”) strongly suggests an intent to terrorize or punish the civilian population into pressuring the regime (or new “reasonable” regime) on the Strait of Hormuz. That is the textbook definition of unlawful coercion. The threat is also tied to a political/economic demand (re-open the strait for global oil traffic), not purely to ending active hostilities.Bottom line: If the threatened strikes were executed exactly as described — blanket obliteration of all power plants, all oil wells, Kharg Island, and possibly desalination facilities, framed as retribution — they would constitute multiple serious violations of IHL and very likely war crimes under any mainstream legal analysis.
The “desalination” and “all power plants” language is especially damning; the oil/Kharg elements are more debatable but poisoned by the punitive framing.
Whether the U.S. actually carries this out remains to be seen; the post itself mixes the threat with claims of “great progress” in talks, which is classic Trump negotiating style. But from a pure IHL standpoint, the described actions would cross clear legal red lines.
Important caveats (legal realism)
- The United States is not a party to the ICC and does not accept its jurisdiction over its nationals. Domestic U.S. law (War Crimes Act) incorporates some IHL violations, but enforcement against senior leadership is politically improbable.
- U.S. military lawyers have long defended broad targeting of dual-use infrastructure under “military necessity” (see 1991 Gulf War, Kosovo 1999, etc.). They would almost certainly argue that in an active war where Iran is using oil revenue and power to sustain operations and threaten shipping, these targets qualify.
- Iran itself has committed numerous IHL violations in this conflict and prior decades (attacks on civilians, hostage-taking, use of proxies, etc.), but that does not legally license reciprocal war crimes.
Regarding War Crimes
A constitutional law expert friend, who is much more of a hawk on military interventions than others in the email conversation below, had this to say.
You know that I often disagree with [names redacted] on repeated assertions that US military actions are war crimes. International law is complex, fact-specific and very seldom does the US clearly violate international law. And I hate hyperbole.
But the threatened strikes would have been black and white lay-down war crimes. The Geneva Convention forbids strikes against civilian infrastructure calculated to threaten the lives of civilians to pressure concessions. Trump very specifically laid that out as the intent of his proposed strikes. It’s really mind-boggling.
I disagree with @Grok on one thing. Trump is actually guilty of the crime of extortion. That’s when you try to coerce a person to give up property or services through the criminal use of force. By threatening to commit a war crime if Iran doesn’t do as he says, he is guilty of extortion.
How Would Iran Respond?
Note: The likely response below is to Trump’s March 22, 2026 post Trump to ‘Obliterate’ Iran’s Power Plants if Strait Not Open in 48 Hours
The Wall Street Journal reports Iran Threatens Reprisals on Critical Infrastructure if U.S. Strikes Power Plants
Iran’s military threatened to attack energy, information technology and desalination infrastructure in response to President Trump’s warning that the U.S. would hit Iranian power plants unless the Strait of Hormuz was opened within 48 hours. Iranian state media cited a spokesman for Iran’s military joint command as saying targets across the region could be hit.
While oil-and-gas reserves support economies around the region, desalination plants are relied upon by millions in the Middle East for drinking water. The Middle East has more than 40% of the world’s desalination capacity, or around 5,000 plants. Iran has previously targeted desalination capacity, including a drone attack that damaged a plant in Bahrain earlier this month.
Here’s what else to know:
Iran’s use of intermediate-range ballistic missiles demonstrated its arsenal can now reach Europe.
Iran said its Natanz nuclear facility was attacked for the second time in the current war.
Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi said Tehran would respond in kind to any attack on its critical infrastructure.
Gharibabadi’s post on X followed President Trump’s warning that it would strike power plants if Iran doesn’t reopen the Strait of Hormuz so critical fuel and fertilizer shipments could restart.
Gharibabadi also said the threats on infrastructure raise legal concerns under international law. “An explicit threat to target power plants and vital infrastructure goes beyond a mere political statement; under international law, it concerns civilian objects,” he wrote, citing principles of international humanitarian law, which he said prohibit deliberate attacks on civilian infrastructure.
Is Iran Negotiating?
No, that is a lie. Consider Trump’s idiotic statement: “We will not negotiate. Of course they’re negotiating. Who wouldn’t negotiate,” said Trump.
To recap. The negotiations are going well despite the fact that Trump isn’t negotiating, but Iran is, and who wouldn’t, even though Trump is not sure he’s willing to make a deal.
Trump Pauses Destruction of Iran’s Energy Plant for 10 Days
On March 26, I noted Trump Pauses Destruction of Iran’s Energy Plant for 10 Days
I am pleased to offer this 10-day taco countdown calendar. Will it end with war crimes?
Tacos Courtesy of Iran
As per Iranian Government request, please let this statement serve to represent that I am pausing the period of Energy Plant destruction by 10 Days to Monday, April 6, 2026, at 8 P.M., Eastern Time. Talks are ongoing and, despite erroneous statements to the contrary by the Fake News Media, and others, they are going very well. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
The countdown ends on April 6 at 8:00 PM.
Question of the Year
Q: Is Trump willing to risk this?
A: We are going to find out. So far, it’s been a string of tacos
Iran won’t unilaterally opens the strait. It’s the only bargaining power Iran has.
Regardless, so much for Trump’s lie about “winding down operations“.
Final Thoughts
Q: Would attack on desalination plants be illegal orders?
A: Certainly. And we need that discussion now.
Q: Is this another Trump bluff?
A: Likely, but Trump is getting increasingly irrational.
I suspect crossing this line would be so severe that a number of House Republicans would vote to impeach. No need to wait for the Midterms.
There would not be sufficient votes to convict in the Senate, but the trial itself would be damning.
Q: For what?
A: To open the Strait that was already open before Trump started this insane war.
I grew up with a Father who was drafted into WWII and saw the atrocious Crimes that the Germans foisted upon the French, etc. Wars are always about killing people. YES, Military Draftees are people, too.
There are no draftees in the US military.
All Usonian presidents since at least Truman have been war criminals.
Think of a case where the US did not take out the power grid (with special munitions to short circuit distribution transformer parks). They did it in Baghdad, in Belgrade, in Aleppo — taking the water and sewage system along with it (no pumps, no water, no sewage; no hospital care).
What difference does it make?
Congress has adopted legislation to pre-authorize an invasion of The Netherlands just in case the International Court were ever to prosecute an American. Pre-crime pardons.
The whole war against Iran is itself the supreme war crime.
As stated at the Nuremberg trials:
Quotidian malignancy
War crimes are not an anomaly. For the US, they are the rule.
Killing civilians is what they excel at, children, hospitals, schools …
War crimes are nothing new for the US government. Fire bombings of German civilians in 268 cities, towns, and villages during WW2 were deliberate and systematic, killing millions (mostly women and children). These were war crimes of a scope not yet exceeded. The US has never been held accountable and it’s cover story that the bombs were targeted on munitions factories, rail yards, and military targets is still taught as fact on American schools today. With this as prologue do you really expect that Trump will exercise restraint?
No one REALLY paid for their Crimes. Even Hitler and his small crew of thugs escaped. It is ALL bullshit. PEOPLE GET CREAMED!
“Then when the Trumpet will be blown… That Day shall you be brought to Judgment, not a secret of you will be hidden.” (Surah Al-Haqqah 69:13-18).
According to information from the “Red Crescent” (sister organization of the Red Cross), rcs.ir—currently offline—the following has so far occurred:
– More than 100,000 civilian facilities destroyed or damaged
– 600 schools destroyed or damaged
– 300 health centers destroyed or damaged
– At least one university institute destroyed or damaged
Amazing military achievements. Really something to be proud of.
I know Americans are soft spoilt people who think electricity and other luxuries are essential to life but they are not. Desalination in Iran is handy to have extra water but there are enough natural supplies for basic drinking water and I know westerners like to take leisurely showers twice a day but they are not necessities. Same with having electricity, billions of people don’t have it.
So if Trump takes out those luxuries that isn’t a war crime but just something that will hurt the morale in Iran as well as mess with their industrial production.
Water and electricity are a luxury…you are a funny guy. Three days without water you are dead…but sure they have other water sources…so they don’t need special desalinated water. They are in a fucking desert pretending they aren’t. Desalination for the rich guys in the Middle East is eaazzy peazy. They dump the residual brine into our oceans and it is killing the oceans. Of course…we don’t need healthy oceans or the food it supplies at all.
I never said no water, I specified extra water. I’ve lived in informal housing areas where water supplies were intermittent and the power was often not working. So maybe take a bucket bath, or do laundry less frequently in a bucket hauled upstairs. Nobody died and it wasn’t a crime against humanity to make do like that. And my home country in North Africa is a lot drier than Iran which is only partly desert.
As for putting brine from desalination plants back into the ocean? Why are you complaining about both the plants being knocked out and at the same time complaining that they exist? Brine back into the ocean is of negligible issue to the oceans wildlife. Much bigger issues are pollution and overfishing
Umm I guess you didnt get the memo about the massive water shortages going on in Iran that kicked off all the protests and Trumps attack
I know their reservoirs have run very low but water shortages are not the same as no water at all.
Critically low.
Before the riots broke out they were looking in to depopulating Tehran
Let’s see you live for a week without both electricity and an ample supply of clean water tough guy.
I can guarantee that you’d be singing a different tune if you were on the receiving end.
It’s possible both parties REALLY want to blow up each other and are using the negotiation process as propaganda to gain global support.
The US has never been held accountable and even if it was, who’d enforce any penalty?
The many problems in the USA such as inflation, wars, bad leadership of both major political parties, are us being held accountable and if someone doesnt get what they are due in this life, they will on judgment day. God, who is all seeing and all knowing, is the judge and enforcer.
The history of wars from WW2 is to conceal the effects of the war from the US public. The public continues in blissful ignorance with no disruption of day-to-day
I think a lot of the “burn em’ to the ground” comments relates to the fact they now see their lives and finances will be inevitably affected by the stupidity of Trump
Trump’s approval rating finally seems to be below 40 percent. I still can’t get over the impression that one can fool so many Americans for what looks like eternity.
He has numbers in the 20’s now. But we will be told not to believe our lying eyes.
Hmmm, I remember the beheading of those captured by ISIS
Live by the sword, die by the sword
Roflmao.
Google ISIS and Shia Islam and get back to us.
All religions have one purpose. Controlling female reproduction and money. Keep the ladies poor they will coming begging to clean your house for food. Good deal…for men.
Cletus, you do know that ISIS is sunni and not shia, correct?
He is frustrated because he wants a new distraction for his fevered brain.
Threats, TACO, threats, TACO…
The problem is, this is all taking too much time and damage is mounting
I’m not a big Trump supporter. I am a supporter of anyone who has the objective and the balls to rid planet earth of the IRGC and the Mullah’s, and I don’t give a shit if we have to bomb Iran for another 6 months to do it. The world would be a better place for a while, until the next set of insane Muslims crops up. Too bad, so sad for Europe, which has already signed their own death warrant.
but does he have the capability to rid the world of the Mullahs?
he is already getting bored and looking to make a deal.
It worked so well in Afghanistan and Taliban. /s
Yeah, the world would sure be a better place with Netanyahu and Bin Salman in charge of the ME
<snark>
Howz about we don’t let Christian’s or Jews or Muslims be in charge of any government. Let them go back to their houses of worship and tend to their own belief systems. But…clearly we are nowhere near capable of that. Superstition ain’t the way🎼
Europe signed their own death warrant? The f**k are you talking about? They’ve been our allies for 80 years. The death warrant was signed by Trump. What is wrong with you?
No, what you are is a poorly educated and brainwashed rube.
“The world would be a better place for a while, until the next set of insane Muslims and or Christians crops up.”
Fixed it for you, religion is evil no matter the stripe.
9/11? Nope, Sunni fanatics, financed by Saudi Arabia and the Gulfie tyrannies.
Al Qaeda? Nope, Sunni fanatics, financed by Saudi Arabia and the Gulfie tyrannies.
ISIS? Nope, Sunni fanatics, financed by Saudi Arabia and the Gulfie tyrannies.
But go on, tell us some more about how bad Shia Iran is.
Kiss your summer travel plans goodbye! Airlines to run out of fuel….
https://www.the-sun.com/travel/16155431/united-delta-airlines-ceos-warn-fuel-supplies-run-dry/
Making America Great Again huh?
Trump’s utter disrespect for rules, is an extension of his contempt for anything created by and between humans, outside of his whims — and his utterly self-referential toxic dream world. Here it goes beyond rules to the underpinnings of basic human life.
“All’s fair in love and war.”
A very old saying with prophetic meaning considering, perhaps, in the end all wars turn to…
It’s been said for decades that WW3 would likely start in the Middle East. I’d place a bet on it but be afraid I’d never collect.
Almost like he or Israel & their advisors are determined to knock over the global reset domino misguidedly believing IMO USA & Israel will come out better than the rest of the globe. Forgetting everything is interconnected. Energy wise USA might be better off than most but we have exported far to much of our manufacturing.
Misguided IMO as the three or four day police action has passed 30 days of so much winning that I’m tired of winning.
I suspect Israel doesn’t care if they “win” as long as everyone else loses.
Given his posts, Trump seems to be itching to be designated a war criminal. On the other hand, the LLMs claim that his posts are just rhetorical BS. My sense is this may not end with TACO.
Sadly, over half of America, especially those (white liberal pink haired woman,) have lost the will to fight. Had America followed those protocols in WW2, we would have lost those wars and our freedoms. The Muslim Iranians love to hang liberal woman, gays & anyone who defies their Muslim laws. Iran has killed millions since 1979, (Iraq-Iran war) to include 100’s of thousands of its own citizens. For those of you, who hate Trump & this war. Leave America & move to Iran, you traitors.
Idiot! In America, the Christian right hates liberal men and women. The Christian right hates gays and the transgendered. The Christian right wants to make a theocracy out of our democracy. Since 1979, American children have been shot in our schools on the regular. Your man Trump hates democracy and tried to over throw our government on January 6th, 2021. You love a man who hates America. You go…you leave. No one is interested in your fascist love of a dictator. TWAT!!
Of course, during the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was our proxy – we gave them chemical and biological weapons and encouraged the Iraqis to use them on Iran. So many of those deaths can be laid at our doorstep. Also, if you’re so hung ho on fighting, why don’t you toss your dentures, grab a gun and get over there.
The window licking inbreds that still support Trump are the ones that can be blamed for our collapse.
and Iraq invaded Iran.
this is really bringing out the blockheads
Trumps backed into a corner. This war is a distraction from the files. He will get more dangerous.
Mish something ive been pondering. What if breaking the filibuster to pass trumps save act is not the true goal. Sure it should get shot down in court. But how could overturning the filibuster play into trumps midterm election fraud/ his seeking a third term etc.
Anything can be solved except religous wars (see Crusades). “Keep the peace” was Ceasurs orders to Pontius pilate. The Romans had religous freedom for people they conquerd. But then you have to define a religion (see all the IRS religion claims adjudicated). Trump’s problem is that he is neither educated or smart. I have seen studies that learning facts makes you smarter. Regardless, 90 percent of the population uses feelings to make decisions, Trump included.
meanwhile: US waives sanctions to allow Russian tanker to deliver crude oil to Cuba
Wow! Cuba dodged a bullet. Guess they should thank DT for his mercy. DT doesn’t do that for just anyone!!!
It’s CRUDE oil. After refining, it will be enough for about 10 days of careful usage. It’s a humanitarian gesture.
“humanitarian gesture” Bullcrap it’s because trump is terrified of Putin.
Operation AIPAC Fury is a failure. The US already lost.
USIS manuevered themselves into an utterly hopeless religious war situation with no visible way out by their own design. Bets are on what will come first: US bankruptcy, total destruction of Israel or extraterrestrial intervention if one of the parties activates the nuclear option. Until then it will go on since the parties are going for each other’s throats respectively, each for good reason.
However, it’s a full success for those profiting from maximum chaos on the planet. And that’s those pulling the strings from the background via AIPAC handlers, that much is of course true.
But operation “Epstein Coverup” seems to be working.
Trump is going to move to how war should be fought. All these silly rules about not letting the citizens go hungry or without power or water are BS. These rules (“laws”) only serve to extend warfare!
Trump would be right to ignore them.
P.S. Who exactly is going to enforce these so-called laws anyway?
A self-pardon will not save a person from the Hague
After Israel’s genocide in Gaza, “war crime” is pretty much an outmoded concept. This is not to say that what Trump purports to be considering isn’t evil. It is. More importantly, if he does half of what he’s threatening, Iran will have many prime targets for retribution, including all of Israel’s desalination plants and their offshore gas rigs (which are the source of most of their electricity). And, of course, all the oil and gas rigs throughout the GCC. They could take enough production offline for years that whether the Strait or Hormuz is open or not is a moot question.
Once we take out the power and their remaining water, perhaps the wimpy Persians will finally grow the cojones to rise up against their oppressors and kill them all, including their families, like the famous generals of the past, (Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, etc.) used to do.
Once Iran takes out Israel’s power and water, those Israelis who can leave will.
I am sure that Israel’s Iron Dome and the backup dome from the USA will continue to work as well as it has been doing and prevent any Iranian attempts at hitting something important.
Meanwhile, Tehran is beginning to look like Gaza! Well, they were talking about relocating their capital city, due to the lack of water in Tehran. Israel and the USA are just helping the process along. Call it “urban renewal”! 😉
BTW: I am still waiting from my challenge to you a couple of threads back to produce any photos of Israelis destruction from Iranian missiles/drones, which you keep touting.
Waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting,…
Funny, as those wimpy Persians seem to have the cojones to stand up to the Americans that attacked them.
Well, when the Democrats take control of Congress in November, it gives them a perfect excuse to impeach him. And, if found guilty for war crimes that caused the death of innocents, Trump can be given the needle. That should be adequate recompense to the Iranians, which most Americans would applaud.
Needle?
I demand a cinderblock euthanasia!
Were I to be consulted, Trump would wish for the needle. I would place him in irons and bind him over bodily to the people of Iran, there to do with him as they wish.
Obviously it isnt a war crime if Ukraine blows up Russian energy assets like Nordstream so this must not be either
Well that’s idiotic logic
For starters not all war crimes are prosecuted
And it is 100% certain blowing up desalination plants would be a war crime.
Threatening war crimes is not a crime. Get over it dude.
Ok he knows the insane can’t be held responsible, also trump said that the straits of Hormuz now trump strait he is the owner of it, and he also said that he’s going to have his own tolls on the strait and he’s only going to accept Melania crypto tokens ….
Seems that if one complains about anything that Israel does now –you are labeled anti-semitic? So Israel continues mass murders of civilians in Gaza.
With that type of thinking I guess America can cause mass- murders of civilians in Iran and if one complains about it you our considered Anti-American? Just joking –they are collateral damage.
If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing!
—Anatole France
Goyim are expendable.
I don’t know. The Rules of War should not be a death warrant.
Iran and its proxies have been targeting civilians, diplomats, and infrastructure for decades. If Iran has not and will not comply, and since the international authorities seem unwilling to enforce these rules with respect to Iran, the United States should not be bound by them either.
I am not advocating for the wholesale targeting of innocents, but only that rules apply to all parties–or they don’t apply to any.
It seems that the U.S. has made many good faith efforts to bring Iran into the family of nations. Certainly, this was central to Obama’s Iran policy. Who knows but Trump seems to have been inclined to make a deal.
And Iran continues to rain missiles down on civilians.
Trump’s an ogre. But the world will be better when the Iranian regime is on the ash heap of history.
“Iran and its proxies have been targeting civilians, diplomats, and infrastructure for decades.”
Can you name an incident where this actually happened without having been previously provoked?
I seem to recall that many years ago the US shot down an Iranian airliner with all hands if we are going to start a tit for tat strategy.
Yup. But it was an “accident”. Like bombing the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. Maybe supplying chemical weapons precursors to Saddam for use against Iran was an accident, too. Ooops.
This isn’t going to put them there. It will entrench them, and make them stronger.
“Only that rules apply to all parties or they don’t apply to any”
Okay so WW2 was a fluke I guess! Oh and the deal Obama made? If you weren’t a stuttering retard you’d know we broke it, not them.
“It seems that the U.S. has made many good faith efforts to bring Iran into the family of nations. Certainly, this was central to Obama’s Iran policy.”
It was working. Trump canceled it because he couldn’t stand the thought that our first black president had a success story. Then his superior deal making ability failed completely as he never intended to “make a deal”.
So… another nothing burger.
More lies from your pigdaddy.
International law. Lulz.
Mish, you should know as well as anyone. It’s only a war crime when the other side does it.
The winners decide what is a crime and what is not.
The winners generally write the history books accorded as gospel.
“One does not retaliate (should not retaliate) by blowing up civilian targets. To do so is a war crime.” — Agree!
I would imagine most people here are civilian. Probably you don’t want to die or see family and friends killed for some leaders whim in another country or by the actions of its agents in your (our) country. Spies, dissidents, malcontents, aka “terrorists”.
“The winners decide what is a crime and what is not.” – Always been this way.
A now deceased Senator once said, “to the victor go the spoils” – We have the most powerful military in the world, China is in ascension – soon to pass us as they have long term centralized plans and we won’t be able to pay our military with devaluing dollars forever…..
Exit Strategy? Mars with Elon on a Plasma powered rocket?
https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/mars-in-30-days-russia-unveils-prototype-of-plasma-rocket-engine
Don’t be shocked if Trump order the firing of a “tactical” nuke to an uninhabited area as a warning. That’s the kind of thing that would make him feel real tough, and, of course unleash holy hell from that moment onwards.
Anything is possible to continue the Epstein coverup, anything.
Once again – missing the point.
What have been seen recently about the Epstein files?
For me, I think this whole war is a distraction from the evidence against the republican leader.
Yup. Plus executing ancient Rothschild / Zionist finance capital ploy of getting countries to fight each other. Finance both sides, supply them both with arms, collect everything of value from defeated nation to fill their coffers, make out big on “building back better” after maximum devastation. Human losses part of the plan, the more die and suffer the merrier.
Already worked great twice the past 110 years. Amazing that people are falling for it again a 3rd time.
This time around turbo-charged version with AI-enabled digital enslavement program of survivors rolled out in parallel. That’s all of us except the parasites themselves of course.
I somewhat disagree. The Epstein files are a window–well, more like a keyhole with the heavy redactions–revealing faintly the ruling class that runs our country.
But since that picture is complicated, the only thing they are really worried about hiding is that Epstein was running a blackmail operation for Mossad using 14-year-old girls. Zionists have a very long history of using blackmail to control the US, all the way back to the black mail efforts against the 1s US Sec. of Defense James Forrester and the successful blackmailing of Nelson Rockefeller in 1948. But they’ve been able to keep all that hidden. Exposing the depravity of Mossad, as the Epstein investigation could do, might interfere with the very successful seduction of Protestant Christians by Zionists. (It is so weird that Christians think they have something in common with Jews, who avoid the Golden Rule as if it were radioactive.)
Having said all that, I think the main purpose is to create chaos in the Middle East and render Iran and the Gulf States failed/impoverish states like Libya, Syria, & Iraq, so that Israel dominates the region.
Zionists have such complete control of the Mockingbird media and all of officialdom, that controlling the Epstein files–especially making everyone ask the wrong questions so that the answers don’t matter–is child’s play. They want the war for more substantive reasons. Even just keeping Bebi from standing trial rates higher.
That may be Bibi’s goal but I think trump has only one goal, bury the Epstein prosecution until he dies. Which can’t come soon enough.
Trumps actions are only limited by his morals. Nuff said… ;-(
All of us should be prepared for a massive war effort to take over Iran’s oil on behalf of Israel and/or the US. The spending will be insane and result in huge increases to the debt.
Oil will continue higher, inflation rise, and many will die.
I’m good on oil and have some profits from oil and the VIX to deploy. I think that drone manufacturers are going to profit handsomely. Does anyone have any favorites?
If you need a ride down to the Army recruiting office, just let me know.
Phil, perhaps I should let Frosty speak for himself, but “Trumps actions are only limited by his morals. Nuff said” indicates that Trump has no morals to limit his actions.
The Republicans are going to stick with their leader, the Chief Pedophile of the United States, as they defend him against those who would persecute him for the many crimes he committed with Epstein. Of course they say a guy mentioned 38,000 times in the Epstein papers was just a friend.
and these actions by Trump will accomplish……?
News story from NYT today: “State-of-the-art US missiles were likely used in a deadly strike on a residential area of Iran last month, according to an analysis of footage by weapons experts. The analysts said a projectile visible in footage of the strike on residential buildings in the southern town of Lamerd was likely a Precision Strike Missile (PrSM). The munition is a new long-range weapon operated by the US military. According to Iranian state media at least 21 people were killed in at least two strikes on the town that day that hit residential buildings and a sports hall about 300 metres apart. Centcom – which oversees US military operations in the Middle East – declined to comment.”
People in the U.S. can’t fathom that the U.S. intentionally bombed an elementary school on the first day of the war (not the one mentioned in the NYT story above). IMO, it was done as a psy-op against the Iranians to demoralize them and provoke a strong response (which it did).
USreal already intentionally bombed a desalinization plant on Qeshm Island on March 7th. It was done hoping to force the 150,000 people off the island. IMO, Qeshm is the island that the U.S. plans to invade as it’s right in the mouth of the Strait of Hormuz.
According to information from the “Red Crescent” (sister organization of the Red Cross), rcs.ir—currently offline—the following has so far occurred:
– More than 100,000 civilian facilities have been destroyed or damaged
– 600 schools have been destroyed or damaged
– 300 health centers have been destroyed or damaged
– At least one university institute was destroyed or damaged
Acts of despicable cowards – worse than barbarians.
Since Tacos role model is Putler, thinking he can commit crimes with impunity is not surprising.
Trump say a lot of things, none of them clearly.
anyways, tune in next week for the shows next episode.
I suppose nothing matters until we get the season ending finale. its going to be a banger.
Don’t you know, when WE do it, then that makes it okay?
Anyway, the goal ever always only was to turn Iran into a failed state. Forget the bullshit about protesters, both Trump and his Master Netanyahu see them as subhumans to be exploited and cast aside.
Hey! What was in your tea this morning? You finally posted something that makes sense!
Well any US pilot who drops bombs on civilians targets might find themselves up on a charge of war crimes.
As Nuremberg proved following orders doesn’t cut it
With all due respect, if war crimes laws were followed, there would be no more gibbets left to hang the Americans on.
The Hague thought about it, and the judges were summarily sanctioned.
That assumes that the criminals who ordered the crimes are not in charge anymore.
Only senior leaders were put on trial at Nuremberg. The lower level soldiers were summarily tried and executed.
There is an interesting short video by Peter Zaihan on Iran and how the IRGC controls a lot of the utilities and this is how they are funding and and enriching themselves.
the electricity is subsidized by the government in Iran.
a households electrical costs for a year would be less than the lunch i had today.
If we go through with this we will deservedly be a pariah state in need of neutering on the level of post war Germany. No doubt about it. Americans have completely lost control of their government and they and the world are paying the price for trusting in the great experiment. I am ashamed beyond words to have seen my once great nation making even the likes of China look like a wonderland.
I dunno, Israel conducts a daylight genocide in Gaza, and most of the world looks the other way.
Except they have been cutting Israel off slowly and will probably be even more rapid about it now. Their lifeline was the USA and no one wanted to piss us off, now we’re also in the pen because it’s clear we are no longer worth appeasing. Both countries will go down in history as shameful.
Unfortunately, I am seeing no evidence happening to any material extent. Most of the world craves American carrot and fears American stick,
Hell, take away American carrot and American stick, and Trump would be an international joke, a murderous clown and pariah like Idi Amin, Jean Bedel Bokassa, or some banana republic comic opera buffoon.
Axtually, now that I think about it, Trump DOES have a lot in common with such types….
Bob Dylan/s quote “you just want to be on the side that winning” seems appropriate for most of the world.
By your own admittance, when most of the world disagrees with what you believe, then the source of the misunderstanding leading to the disagreement has to be in your recognition of what is happening.
Buh-bye! Don’t let the door hit you in the arse. Canceling your citizenship only costs $450 now.
Arse? Oh, I get it now. This is a guy from India playing American. Hello pajeet!
I get more of a Bundeep vibe from him.
I’m an educated man of the world! I wear numerous guises.
That’s very nice, will you be pretending to be Israeli in the next thread so the Pakistani guy pretending to be Palestinian can fight you?
As messed up as a lot of what goes on in China is, they are now the center of civilization. They are rising, and the rest of the world is sinking.