US Drone Policy Misfires Again, This Time Killing Seven Children

Changing Drone Story

On August 29, the launched a drone strike targeting suspected suicide bombers near the Kabul airport.

US military labeled the strike a success. Supposedly two highly-valued targets were killed.

General McKenzie subsequently changed the story to we got the bombers but some civilians were killed. 

Today the final assessment is in, and it’s not pretty.

10 Civilians, No ISIS Killed

This happens time and time again. And as always, “US military stands by intelligence leading to strike.”

https://twitter.com/ConwayTweetE/status/1438941662072426498

Righteous Strike

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley earlier this month said that the strike was “righteous.”

It appears the US may have followed the wrong white Toyota. Well, white is white, and Toyotas are Toyotas, and the intelligence speaks for itself.

Warmongers Still Defend the War

The idiotic comment of the day goes to writer Walter Russell Mead for Biden’s Chamberlain Moment in Afghanistan.

Comparing events in Afghanistan to Hitler is of course idiotic, but it was only a matter of time before some warmonger fool did just that.

A Welcome Peace

Please consider Many in Rural Afghanistan Welcome an Unfamiliar Peace After Taliban Victory.

In one of the last night raids of the Afghan war, government commando units backed by combat aircraft descended after dark last month on a cluster of mud-brick villages in a fertile valley of Logar province south of Kabul.

 Eighteen cows were killed in the Aug. 10 raid, villagers say, motorbikes were burned, and an 800-year-old Muslim shrine was badly damaged.

“We were civilians, not supporting either side. Just poor people,” said Noor Rahman Khalili, a 45-year-old farmer whose leg was injured when his home was hit by the aircraft and who now walks with a crutch. “Our house got destroyed and we have lost everything,” he said.

For many in the Afghan capital and other big cities, particularly women and those who had worked with the U.S. and allies, the Taliban triumph meant the disappearance of hard-won freedoms and a personal threat. 

But in Afghanistan’s rural districts like Baraki Barak, where Taliban rules don’t differ that much from existing conservative customs, the calculation is different, particularly in the mostly Pashtun southern and eastern provinces. To villagers here, the collapse of the Afghan republic and the U.S. withdrawal mean, above all, that the guns have fallen silent for the first time in two decades.

“There was war here day and night, every day. It never ceased. The land wasn’t ours, the fields weren’t ours, the house wasn’t ours, we didn’t even have honor,” said village elder Daud Shah Khan, as he stood by the remains of the wrecked shrine. “Now, there is peace. And when someone doesn’t feel danger, doesn’t fear war, and can walk with a peace of mind, he is happy even if he is hungry,” he said.

Sixteen members of his family, Mr. Khan added, were killed during the war: three nieces, three nephews and 10 cousins. “Their graves are over there,” he said, pointing at the cemetery in the dusty field, where faded white and green flags fluttered above small gravestones.

In 2012, the top American commander in Afghanistan, Marine Gen. John Allen, flew to Logar to apologize for the killing of 18 members of a wedding party in a U.S. air strike on Baraki Barak.

In many Afghan villages, some served in the Afghan army and police, while others joined the Taliban. The Taliban have proclaimed an amnesty, and some of these former soldiers have been back to their homes after Aug. 15. “We’re Muslims, humans and Afghans, our hearts are wide enough,” said Mr. Khan, the village elder. “We forgive them all.” 

Earlier this year, the school was frequently caught in the crossfire between the Taliban and government forces. Its roof still has a hole from a rocket, its walls pockmarked by volleys of fire and mortar shrapnel. In April, two students, aged 12 and 13, were killed and eight were injured as skirmishes erupted during classes, said Abdullah Jan Abed, the boys’ school’s academic director.

Five days after the fall of Kabul, classes resumed, and Mr. Abed’s school now is teeming with hundreds of boys. The curriculum has remained the same as before, he said. The only change so far has been a small white Taliban flag that stands next to a globe on his desk.

Understanding the Rapid Surrender

To understand the rapid collapse of cities and even Kabul, just read those paragraphs. 

The US never won the hearts and minds of the locals. And if the US stayed for another two decades, nothing would change.

Out at Last! US Troops Leave Afghanistan After 20 Years

On August 30, I commented Out at Last! US Troops Leave Afghanistan After 20 Years

Here are a few excerpts.

What Went Wrong

  1. Other than to get Bin Laden, we should not have been there in the first place
  2. There was never a defined mission.
  3. The US attempted to nation build and such attempts never work.
  4. Troop reduction before getting out everyone who needed to get out.

Trump’s Ironic Prophecy

  • I am thinking the same thing as I have for the last number of years.
  • What are we doing there? These people hate us.
  • As soon as we leave it’s all going to blow up anyway.

If Trump could have gotten us out of Afghanistan without creating a mess, then why did he purposely leave it up to Biden to execute his plan instead of withdrawing by the end of 2020 as he originally promised?

The US has had failed policy in Afghanistan for 20 years. There’s plenty of blame for 4 administrations over that pathetic course.

The final result, owned by 4 administrations speaks for itself. But despite making a huge mess of the exit (thanks in large part by Trump), it was Biden who got us out.

Who Won?

Citing the Brown University study, the Brookings Institute concluded “In his long war against America, Osama bin Laden has won a sweeping if posthumous victory.

Laden scored a tremendous strategic victory for the cost of less than two dozen people and $500,000.

Result

  • The US engaged in two wars at the total cost of $6 trillion or more (including long-term health costs) and thousands of lives.
  • The Patriot Act weakened Constitutional protections for individuals and the rise a subtle surveillance state (as Edward Snowden first exposed).
  • The fall of Iraq (Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s’ crazy fixation) led to ISIS when the Iraq military was disbanded. That helped to destabilize Syria.
  • Destabilization in the Middle East helped create a surge of migration to Europe which has caused major issues for Europe/EU.

Bin Laden never imagined the long-term damage those “four sorties” would cause. Even the current humiliation of the US in Afghanistan is a reverberation.

On August 26, I wrote Pakistan is the Real Winner of the Afghanistan War

Perhaps the Brookings institute has the better proposal, but looking ahead, Pakistan looks like the next big problem.

Messy Exit But Congratulations Anyway

Finally, at long last we are out.

Blame whomever you want, for whatever you want, but no more US military will lose their lives on the ground in a place we should not have been once Bin Laden was killed.

Please give thanks to that but misguided policy continues.

An Accurate Assessment 

Biden WH, facing rage over the attack at Kabul Airport that killed 13 Marines, was desperate to do *something* — anything — to make Biden look tough, so they wiped out a whole family to avoid a bad news cycle accusing him of weakness.”

Regarding Military Intelligence

Inept US drone policy goes on and on. People make excuses.  

Gen. Mark Milley said that the strike was “righteous.” 

Gen. McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command says “US military stands by intelligence leading to strike.”

I have had enough of “sorry kids, wrong target.”

Stop. Just Stop! 

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StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Increasingly every and any decision of any magnitude in the US, is made by a rank incompetent.
That is the purpose of financialization: Hand all wealth, which rather soon translates into all influence and decision making ability, to people based on ow connected they are, rather than how competent they are.
It shouldn’t surprise anyone that decision made by such a mass of undifferentiated dunces, are very often very bad.
Nor that them being bad, will have no serious negative effects for those who made them. After all, their “bosses” are even more incompetent and retarded. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be bosses in a financialized hellhole, after all.
The military is less burdened than most organizations. But no matter what: When the guys appointing the top brass are retarded hence unable to recognize brains if it stared them in the face, first the ranks of top brass deteriorate. Then, those guys can’t tell competent from idiot…. And os forth and so forth. Until even the military is no better off than the retard camps who by now own, hence control almost al of nominally private enterprise in this dump.
Even Academia is falling apart under the strain, despite priding itself of being insulated from and “above” the petty concerns of the money peddlers. As much as some like to pretend otherwise, funding matters a lot. Ad when every single person with a dollar to donate is retarded and believe in hobgoblins, over time the quality of both research and teaching suffers as well. Perpetuating idiotocracy and ensuring yet another generation of retards from privileged backgrounds believe in mold in walls create value, that scary hobgoblins exists and that governments and money center finance are both some sort of useful entities.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Now, someone needs to take apart the official Covid-19 narrative and expose it for what it is. Who is going to step forward?
A lot of innocent people around the world have died, when early intervention could have saved their lives. The number goes far beyond that of innocent casualties in The War in Afghanistan. As with the death of the ten civilians in Afghanistan, there is no accountability for the harm done by governments and public health agencies in relation to Covid-19.
PostCambrian
PostCambrian
4 years ago
It is very difficult to ascertain a threat from thousands of feet up, plus the asymmetric risk/reward of killing innocent people (no consequences) versus failing to stop a terrorist strike (demotion, assignment to Greenland) will virtually guarantee that this happens in the future. If any other country were firing missiles in the United States people would go ballistic and hate that country for generations but it is fine for the United States to do it and we wonder why other countries don’t welcome us with open arms.
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
4 years ago
I thought the liberal establishment just hated unborn kids.  I stand corrected!  Very sad…
goldguy
goldguy
4 years ago
Drones are the least of our problems.  Wars can be started in many ways. One way is through biological warfare.  Covid anyone? How many people have we as Americans lost?  
MrGrummpy-
MrGrummpy-
4 years ago
“If Trump could have gotten us out of Afghanistan without creating a mess, then why did he purposely leave it up to Biden to execute his plan instead of withdrawing by the end of 2020 as he originally promised?”
Not certain, but Trump may have guessed that the exit would be a terrible mess.  That would harm his chances to get elected. 
So….. he waited for the 2020 election. 
If he wins the vote, he can handle it in a second term.   
If he isn’t elected he let’s the other guy handle the mess. 
amigator
amigator
4 years ago
Reply to  MrGrummpy-
Good thoughts.  I thought I remembered Trumpolini proposed withdrawal and got serious blowback from the generals. Probably the same ones that were talking to the Chinese. So he said ok we will put a date on it…. maybe a little politics too.
Exactly who are the Terrorist?  Should we label portions of our Army Terrorist now?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  MrGrummpy-
If we want to speculate a bit wildly we could also say that the Democrats wanted to get out of Afghanistan but they wanted to be the ones who did it and not a Republican so they put roadblocks for Trump but when Trump was out and Biden in, suddenly all those roadblocks were magically lifted.
LostNOregon
LostNOregon
4 years ago
This is how wars are lost. It’s not the chaotic withdrawals. It’s when you lie to get into a war. It’s when you go into a war not knowing why you are in it, what you are trying to accomplish, and how you will know when you have accomplished those goals. It’s when you let politicians and generals keep you in a war because they don’t know how to get out of it. It’s when you use mechanized death to kill what you think or hope or “maybe you just don’t give a f**k because you need to look tough” might be a terrorist and when you are done, there are now 100 or 1000 more people who will dedicate their lives to getting back at America. 
The stupidity is astounding.
IB6
IB6
4 years ago
I just want to barf…Seven kids killed because politicians needed to look tough. And response of military is of the South park apology type “we’re deeply sorry for killing kids”. Military and politicians responsible should resign but that will never happen….
njbr
njbr
4 years ago
It’s really interesting, the selective outrage on certain incidents and not others.
3000 dead on 9/11–800000 dead Iraq and Afghan citizens over the last decades–12 more dead this month
3 confirmed deaths from bloodclots after vaccine, 6000 more discredited accounts of post-vaccine deaths, and 600000 deaths among the unvaccinated
If you didn’t care about the 800000, WTF is the pretence on the 12.  If you don’t care about the 600,000, WTF isthe pretence on the 3 or 6000.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
It’s emblematic, with pictures of cute toddlers.
This time they bragged about how great they were, only to be contradicted the same day.
Took 3 weeks for the NYT to approve the facts, but acute observers knew the by aug 31.
Same story with the suicide bomber. 25 Taliban dead, treated as an own goal. 100 civilians dead, 80% from machine gun fire aimed downwards from a guard tower (?contractor) according to doctors. MSM ignores.
VAERS is commonly assumed to represent only 1% of all cases, many doctors have never heard of it.
Cause and effect are generally not susceptible to proof, but that applies to the stats for other ailments as well, and to the Covid deaths.
Covid deaths are also by association (positive PCR) and include anybody in the hospital or emergency with a test (including traffic accidents and gall operations). Flu or chicken pox vaccines deaths/injuries are also noted by association. But the signal for the Covid vaccines are hundreds of times stronger than for any other vaccine: and those are at least sterilizing vaccines that confer life-long immunity.
Blurtman
Blurtman
4 years ago
Joe can understand their loss, you see.
Corvinus
Corvinus
4 years ago
It’s unfortunate that the political class is allowed to be so casual about killing and sending people off to die for nothing. If there’s one thing I wish many conservatives would come to realize it’s that supporting the military is not the same as supporting military adventurism overseas. In addition to that to realize that for the most part ‘defending our freedoms’ is just BS the political class use to rope in those who have the honor, courage and commitment to serve. What a waste.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
So what was the BS about secondary explosions they repeated a number of times?
This is the most cowardly form of terrorism one can imagine.
And this is decidedly not a one off.
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
4 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Maybe the gas tank of the vehicle?  The incompetence should not be surprising. 
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
Reply to  RunnerDan
Nor should be the consistent trend to lie as the default behavior.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Drone warfare, embraced by several administrations now, is morally reprehensible and indefensible. They do it because they can. And others will no doubt do it too.
China has small drones that are indistinguishable from birds, and ocean fish. WWIII might be fought anywhere, and we could be the civilians getting slaughtered.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
They use drones so they don’t have to send in Special Forces, and report the deaths of US military when the mission fails.
Take away Special Forces and high tech equipment, and the US military might not dominate in a serious conflict. Some of the reasons include officer IQ declining, and the movement against toxic masculinity…  That the US retreated after 20 years in Afghanistan is indicative of a weak military!
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago

When you are in a hurry to strike back to look like you are
doing something you make mistakes. There doesn’t look to have been intelligence
on the ground and I am worried that they might have used Taliban sourced data
on who to hit. It’s just a speculation on my part. Anyway it doesn’t look good
for Milley because he was in charge.

The US military will have to ride the wheel down for a while before coming back up but it will.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
This is perfectly representative of the whole drone warfare effort over time.
If the Pentagon says 19 of 20 deaths are collateral damage, well, what do they say about a girl’s number? Double, then  × 10
Call_Me
Call_Me
4 years ago
Too many operators/pilots feel guilt over all these “mistakes”.  Surely it will be good when vehicles are effectively autonomous and no person is directly responsible for “accidents” like this in the future.
It is a bit dated now, but a nice visualization of one of the un-undeclared wars earlier this century.  At least the assault Mish highlighted wasn’t double-tapped like some of these during previous administrations:

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