Hey, let’s completely fight Israel’s war that we started. 
Troops If Necessary
The Wall Street Journal reports Trump Doesn’t Rule Out Ground Troops in Iran as Israel Strikes Fuel Depots
President Trump said he wouldn’t be encouraging Kurdish militia to take on the Iranian government, but that U.S. ground troops could be sent in if there were a “very good reason.”
Explosions were seen over the Tehran skyline late Saturday local time after a wave of airstrikes. Israel’s military said it targeted several fuel-storage complexes used by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a paramilitary group of around 200,000 troops.
Iranian strikes in Gulf countries continued, causing at least one death in Dubai and damage to a well-known tower there.
US Troops Captured?
The following report is denied.
Flashback
Israel Strikes Oil Infrastructure
That move guarantees a huge blast higher in the cost of crude, and by implication gasoline prices.
No Coherent Endgame
The New York Times reports In War’s First Week, a Punishing Military Campaign With No Coherent Endgame
The volley of Israeli missiles that slammed into a government compound in central Tehran last Saturday morning was by any military standard a successful opening strike by the United States and Israel as they went to war with Iran.
The blasts killed Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, as well as a cadre of other senior military and intelligence officials. The war’s first salvo left Iran without many of its top commanders to lead the response.
The reckoning, it turned out, was more complicated. The Israeli strike also killed another group of Iranian officials who had been meeting in a different part of the compound. Among them were people the White House had identified as more willing to negotiate than their bosses, and who might help bring a swift end to the conflict, according to American officials.
The strike on the compound in Tehran was emblematic of the muddled reality of the war’s first week: a withering air campaign by American and Israeli forces against an overwhelmed enemy, but few answers about what victory might look like. Iran, its government still in place, has remained defiant and expanded the battlefield across the region, inflicting the first American casualties of the conflict.
Even as senior administration officials in the United States spent the week trying to narrowly cast the war’s goals around denying Iran any chance of gaining a nuclear weapon, President Trump has bounced between wildly divergent explanations for what he hopes to achieve.
In his first message after the war began, Mr. Trump called for a mass uprising in Iran against the country’s leaders. In subsequent days, with little evidence that Iranians were moving to overthrow their own government and with intelligence reports concluding that the clerical regime would likely hold on to power, he indicated he cared little about Iran’s future after the military campaign ends.
Then, on Friday, he said he would be directly involved in choosing Iran’s future leader, and indicated he was committing the United States to Iran’s long term future. And in a bellicose social media statement on Saturday morning, Mr. Trump warned Iran that “areas and groups of people that were not considered for targeting up until this moment in time” might now be targeted by the United States and Israel.
The changing narratives have whipsawed the American public, which polls show broadly opposes the war. At the same time, the spreading violence is triggering rising oil prices and other economic shocks that could bring further election-year political problems for Mr. Trump and the Republican Party at home.
For their part, Iranian officials have said they are confident that the government can survive the barrage and that, over time, the Americans and Israelis will lose their appetite for a war. They have given a code name to their strategy of raising the costs of the conflict to get the United States and Israel to blink: Operation Madman.
There have also been grave mistakes, in particular a Feb. 28 strike that hit an elementary school in the southern Iranian town of Minab. It is the deadliest known episode of civilian casualties during the war thus far — with at least 175 people killed there, according to Iranian health officials and state media, including many schoolchildren. No side has yet taken responsibility, although an analysis by The New York Times shows that the school was most likely hit by an American airstrike.
No Endgame
During the first days of the war, both Mr. Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel suggested that the real change in Iran would come from within, with mass protests on the streets toppling a government made weaker by the military campaign.
That has not yet happened, and Mr. Trump has changed his public position by the day — or the hour — about just how big a role the United States would take in trying to engineer Iran’s political future. On Friday, he said he would be happy if Iran was left with an autocratic, religious leader after the war, as long as the new leadership treated the United States and Israel “fairly.”
“Operation Madman”
After the end of the 12-day conflict last June in which the United States and Israel pounded Iranian nuclear sites and killed key figures in the country’s nuclear program, Iranian officials developed a strategy for a second war they considered to be inevitable. It came to be known as “Operation Madman.”
Ayatollah Khamenei’s orders, according to six Iranian officials, were clear: Take steps to set the Middle East aflame if Iran were attacked again and, specifically, if Ayatollah Khamenei himself was killed. He also appointed four layers of succession for military commanders and officials to ensure there would no power vacuum during the war.
The plan was to make a war with Iran extremely costly for not just Israel and the U.S., but also Arab countries, their economies, tourism, global energy, transportation and shipping.
“We know America is extremely worried about a regional war, its economy will be impacted, its allies will be hurt,” said Mahdi Mohammadi, the senior adviser to Iran’s speaker of the parliament, in an audio analysis of the war posted on his social media account.
“Our plan is to expand the war’s reach and expand the time. It’s the biggest blow we can deliver to Trump and we have no other choice.”
There is much more in the article. That is a free link for interested parties.
Iron Dome Breached Live NBC
Nuclear Facility Hit?
Edit: This one appears to be fake news
What We Avoided
Lindsey Graham Advocated This
Bombs to Israel
I am sure glad Trump promised to not start any wars.
What’s reported above must be fake news.
If not, when does Trump send in the ground troops?
Trump Threatens Iran with “Complete Destruction and Certain Death”
In case you missed it, please see Trump Threatens Iran with “Complete Destruction and Certain Death”
Iran rejects surrender and Trump delivers an amazing rant.
This does not pass the smell test …. If Everything is going so well why do we continually need to increase our presence?
It would suit the US to have another wave of migrants hit Europe to help strenghten far right parties there. With no real risk to the US outside of regional bases, and with Epstein files to distract from, a spike in oil prices isn’t enough of a disincentive to stop. “Domestic” terroism might move the needle a little, but probably would be used as an excuse to double down.
It’s also confirms the need to broaden sustainable energy adoption. It’s ridiculous to be promoting a fossil fuel agenda/economy in the 21st century.
I really don’t care if they come home in a box. They volunteered and most repeatedly reenlisted for this. A year ago, the MAGA warhawks were saying that no one should enlist in a “woke, DEI-based military”. Today it’s back to “support the troops”.
Bloomberg did an interesting piece on the immense amount of oil sitting in the shadow fleet of tankers plying the worlds oceans.
It’s logistics now baby! Lotz of satellite phones lighting up out on the high seas!
Glad to be a lowly midwestern farmer without any physical contact with this mess.
With another aircraft carrier/group heading to the Middle East and further escalation activities in neighboring nations (indiscriminate bombing in Iran, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria and soon Cuba and Turkey). The costs of Trumps wars are rising well above one billion dollars per day.
Zero chance that this will not immensely raise the debt of our nation and likely, encourage further isolation from the global economy. The entire world is on notice that the US is not a benevolent ally or safe trading partner. The rule of law has been fractures and trust lost. If the US wants another nations resources, it will take them and use any means at its disposal to do so.
Many allies will stay friendly on the surface, but all are on notice.
Iran can not surrender because it’s theological hierarchy is decimated. There is no longer a standing Iranian government to surrender. This attack is like taking out Rome and expecting the Catholics to surrender on a global basis.
As a result, this war has no endpoint without massive destruction and regional de-population.
I personally think it is the dollar that loses 5-10% of its value. Concurrently, our debt will lose its already lowered, but excellent credit rating. We deserve the same credit rating as similar nations with irresponsible spending patterns and debt to GDP’s of 130%.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst!
A zillion posts but none on subject. The subject is “will the US send ground troops”. My guess- first special forces scouts then the two airborne divisions. Recon then airborne soldiers is my guess. Watch those nuke sites and oil extraction sites! Any other takers?
So we’re going commando? As Kramer said, “They’re hanging out there Jerry and I’m LOVING it!”
If we do bring lots of stretchers and body bags. One wounded troop is worth two or more killed to the enemy. IED’s are cheap and deadly.
Taking out Iranian fuel supplies is intensely risky for Israel. If Iran retaliates by doing the same to Israel (don’t know if it can), it could be highly destructive. Take out fuel and energy plants, and any country goes back to the stone age. You can’t pump water, sewage, move food…
Some of Tehran’s sewers are already flooded with burning oil and acid rain is falling as a result of the massive fires. All of Irans infrastructure is being targeted for obliteration and another humanitarian crisis is developing before our eyes.
One fascinating question is why is the US is willing to literally shoot itself in the (economic) foot by removing up to 35 percent of the world’s oil supply from the market. My hunch is that Allison‘s classic Essence of Decision book has the answer. What looks like completely irrational if one assumes only rational decision making becomes completely plausible once one assumes decisions are the aggregate outcome of the dispersed preferences of weird people like Donald Trump and Lindsey Graham.
Love of Israel drives ya crazier. Crazier because you have to be crazy in the first place,
Mish, I think you (and a many analysts) are making a fundamental error in claiming that “Trump started this.” The conflict was arguably started during the 1979 Iranian revolution when Khomeini gained power and declared war of the entire Western world. He vowed to destroy the US after a successful genocidal campaign against Israel.
The Iranian regime has since done its level best to kill, maim, humiliate and terrorize as much of the West as they can, playing 3D chess at which they think they are very clever. This has been a hot war ever since.
What is amazing has been the tolerance of the international community for this murderous bunch of clerics bent on killing as many people as possible who fall into the categories of “infidel” and “apostate”. Note, that includes the whole Sunni population of the planet.
Maybe, or maybe not, Trump can end this insanity. Iran is much too important to leave in the hands of madmen.
If you want to play pedantic asshole you’re going to have to go back a bit further than that.
Bingo ~ My preference in the Balfour Declaration…
What a bunch of horseshit. 80+% of terrorist attacks have been by Sunnis and most of those have been intermittently supported by the US and Israel. “Al Qaeda is on our side” – Jake Sullivan to John Kerry. The 1979 revolution toppled the US-installed dictator. We prodded Saddam to attack Iran and gave him chemical weapons that killed tens if not hundreds of thousands of Iranians in that eight year war. I could go on rebutting your nonsense, but I doubt you even believe that. If you do, you’ve been so thoroughly propagandized, you’re beyond reason. Of course the US started this war. And it wasn’t just Trump or even Graham and Pompeo. It was a long-planned part of the Intel community’s goal of world domination.
CIA / MI-6 coups for $1000.
Who was “Mossaddegh”, Alex?
Saddam’s favorite chemical weapons supplier.
Who was “Donald Rumsfeld”, Alex?
I suggest improving your knowledge, back beyond 1979 by reading these:
“The Arabs”, Eugene Rogan
“America and Iran”, John Ghazvinia
With all of this killing and genocide, you can name at least one American killed by an Iranian attack.
No, not one.
Did you realize that when the embassy was held hostage in 1980, your Israeli buddies were selling spare parts for F-14s to Iran?
really, the conflict started in 1979, 46 years ago?? Iran had a revolution because the west overthrew the old leaader and installed a tyrant. yes, it’s a hostile country but that doesn’t mean it was some ongoing war or conflict. it wasn’t about to invade the US homeland.
and none of this will end the insanity. Trump will get bored sooner rather than later and move on. and the Iranian regime will still be there and will rebuild and a greater portion of the population will hate the US than before.
Sunni religious leaders now in support of Shiite Iran
The dunderheads in DC are now realizing they may have really pissed off the Iranians and created a nuclear threat with the 400 pounds or kilos of enriched material that the Iranians may turn in to a dirty bomb or nuke ICBM
The need now is to send special forces in get that material, from the tunnels of the Iranian nuclear program
After all, it’s a thing done all the time in video games…it’s not much more than capturing Maduro…
So after the Kurds very wisely refused to do the Americans’ bidding, for once, and both the Azeris and ISIS are too weak and exposed to help, the question now is: is the fact that the Americans and the Israelis are losing BIGLY this Epstein Fury operation a good enough “very good reason” for Trump to wage a full scale ground war..?
American SOF boots have long been on the ground, by the way, and American troops are already dying all around the Middle East (both in their bases and in the hotels CENTCOM criminally tries to hide them) since day one and in much greater numbers than the USA’s ridiculous claims.
Let me repeat for the fourth time: this latest Judeo-American war is the USA’s FAFO moment.
Waking up to new Epstein headlines implicating him, will be the very good reason from Trump to send in foot soldiers. Anything to distract! Useful idiot Hegseth is only too happy to oblige so people may not notice how dumb he is.
First they tell us there is not enough money to provide basic health care to ordinary Americans. Then they tell us there is plenty of money to bomb an already poor country back to the stone ages. Given these two narratives, I guess even MAGA diehards must be scratching their heads.
Not likely they even think abut it. MAGA just watches Fox News and repeats whatever the hate/lies of the moment are.
When LBJ started the Vietnam war, his first combat deployment was the 82nd airborne and the 101 airborne division. Later I met a lot of these guys after they were maimed or seriously wounded. My guess is Trump will follow suit and deploy these crack outfits. Expect his buddy the antichrist to cheer loudly. We are witnessing Israel first.
In 1973 as a member of the 759th MP Bn we were just a few short hours from deploying to Israel. Russia was expected to take part, I’m glad they stood down.
What will the real economic effects of this war be?
Thumbs up for inflation.
Thumbs down for deflation.
It will be both. Oil prices will explode causing inflation, people won’t be able to afford anything causing deflation.
What about another round of Trumpian bribery/stimulus checks?
History may be repeating itself?
That won’t help. Fuel is used in every step of the value chain from the farmer using his tractor to the semis that transport the food to the consumer that drives to the grocery store. Repeat for everything in manufacturing x10.
Oil will easily go to $100 then $130 and maybe $150. Asia countries are panic buying right now because they will be royally screwed without energy. Korea and Japan import all their fuels. If those two economies fail so will everyone else. Japan is the main country buying US debt, kiss that goodbye.
You better have some cash on hand or get some from the bank before they shut down cash withdrawals. I suggest at least 1 month cash worth of your monthly expenses at home in your vault.
Yes, and yes! It is immensely inflationary in my opinion as the US is the largest producer of oil and gas. Plus we export refined “value added” products.
If Japan stops buying our debt? That is inflationary as well because the Fed will buy it.
I’m simply not seeing a rational that helps me see anything but inflation. Perhaps because it is my bias, but I’m trying to see where deflation could come from and historically, we inflate!
Helicopter money all over again!
In 1973 oil went from $2.75 to over $11.00. Today that same increase would take us to about $240.
^^^ this ^^^
When you have to double down … it means you’re not winning … if we are considering sending US troops it means they’re already there even if only in small numbers … chances of this going nuclear are now much greater … both Iran and Israel are now fighting for their existence … fog of war, … neither side can be believed …
Israel won’t hesitate for a moment to use a nuclear device, when the time comes….“existential survival”…yada yada
Operation: Epic
FuryFuck-upI want More American young people to die for this. That is WHAT AMERICA DOES to its finest: WE KILL THEM.
Any observer can see that not many Americans or Israelis are dying.
This is BiBi and Trumps second genocide.
The closure of Hormuz is likely voluntary at this point. The entire Persian gulf is a narrow “straight” that averages 35 miles wide. Hormuz is 21 miles wide at its narrowest point. At its widest point the Persian Gulf is only 210 miles wide.
At the 21 mile wide Straight of Hormuz entrance, the Gulf of Oman is only 30 – 35 mies wide and Iran borders where the ships have decided to stop. Those ships are only 10-15 miles from Iran. Easy targets if Iran had any desire or capacity to sink ships.
https://ship-tracker.org/marinetraffic/
This inflationary shockwave is intentional in my opinion. Take a look for yourself where the ships are, and the distances involved..
Probably nothing…
Largest US military hospital abroad halts labor, delivery services amid Iran war
https://www.navycrf.com/2026/03/05/largest-us-military-hospital-abroad-halts-labor-delivery-services-amid-iran-war/
6 killed & 18 US service personnel wounded according to your citation.
Of course if BiBi and Trumps intention is a ground war? Who knows how many American soldiers will become casualties.
I doubt the US is going to offer aid to the thousands of dead and dying civilians in Iran. Or, the millions of displaced or new refugees of war.
“Any observer can see that not many Americans or Israelis are dying.”
Any dumb, misinformed, malinformed, brainwashed Western observer can see that not many Americans or Israelis are dying.
FTFY
Citations please?
Pretty hard to find supporting information for your claims. Sadly there are probably tens of thousands of victims in Iran. Most Americans are against this war…
Unlike Gaza, this is far from a genocide right now.
According to FM Araghchi they have not closed Hormuz.
But it cannot be said to be open either.
Retired U.S. Army General Wesley Clark revealed in 2007 that shortly after the 9/11 attacks, he was shown a classified memo in the Pentagon outlining a plan to “take out” seven countries in five years finishing with Iran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo6u9DpASp8
And, if the Pentagon put that in place: it was because the “New America Century” for the blueprint.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century&ved=2ahUKEwjJvIzD9o-TAxWwZ0EAHfxoB-AQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1lj5VF741R5zXmNR1zAZ6n
Some others:
1. “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” (1996)This paper was written for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by a group of U.S. and Israeli analysts including Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.
The document:
A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
Main ideas
Why it’s controversialCritics say it promoted regime change in neighboring states. Supporters say it was simply a security strategy paper for Israel, not a U.S. government plan.
2. “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” (2000)Published by the think tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).
The report:
Rebuilding America’s Defenses
Key contributors included Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheney.
Main ideas
A famous controversial line suggested that military transformation would be slow “absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.”
Why people connect it to the Middle EastAfter the September 11 attacks, many PNAC members held key positions in the George W. Bush administration, which later launched the Iraq War.
3. The “Greater Middle East” / “Broader Middle East Initiative” (2004)During the presidency of George W. Bush, the U.S. promoted a policy called the Greater Middle East Initiative.
Goals
Countries includedThe initiative covered a large region including:
CriticismCritics argued:
Supporters said it aimed to encourage democratic reform and stability.
iran size is 1.6 mil sq km
israel is 22.000 sq km
any differences in number of rockets and anti rocket systemS WONT CHANGE THOSE SIMPLE FACTS!
ISRAEL IS SITTING DUCK!
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i look at his-her tweets. 100% is from urkaine. joined in 2023
everybody is PUTIN’S PUPPET!
No, no! Everyone is Hitler.
= Russians gave Iranians military targets videos/news
after some consideration i SOLVED THIS PROBLEM
dod/mic is afraid that USA will be stuck in IRAN next 10 years , so afraid Trump will be forced to make deal w/ Russia/ Putin sooner.
so it is shot in dark to make sure NO DEAL FOR UKRAINE!
= how you do things w/. Putin if he is practical enemy and killed American soldiers ! =
alx
You are delusional. Or a Russian bot.
you would think even person w/ half functioning brain tried show example how me being =delusional=
but hey. who needs arguments!
go cu11ck yourself. uneducated mo11ron
=Yep. He is 100% compromised by Putin
see. it is instinct . no matter USA is again bogged down in another war in middle east
MIC KEEPS another eye on Russians/china/etc!
Never in the field of human conflict was so much destroyed by so few with so little thought.
It needs to happen/. It’s just logical.
The Iranian resistance is clearly not organized enough to take advantage of how much we have softened the Regime and the IRCG for them. The Kurds seem to be wimping out also. So what’s left?
Do a half-assed job like past presidents have done in past wars? Pull out too early? NO!
We need to send in the soldiers from the US, Israel and anyone else we can recruit (hopefully neighboring Arabs), just like at the end of WWII.
Put in a replacement government, help organize a new army, roundup the IRGC and shoot them all. Then find the enriched uranium and move it out of the country.
A relatively small number of our troops will get killed but that’s the risk they signed onto when they joined the VOLUNTEER MILITARY!
PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH!
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just a cultist
That’s how MAGA has felt this whole time unfortunately
Wishing you peace
fuck you pussy.
I guarantee you never served. if you are so sure it’s logical, go over there and fight Iran yourself.
I voluntarily joined the VOLUNTEER MILTARY. Full disclosure, I never was sent in harm’s way. However, I volunteered and did what I was asked to do. Don’t need to be thanked for my service, but I can’t stand armchair fucks like you who offer others to die ‘for their country’, like you do. Go fuck yourself.
🎉🤷♂️😜🎆🤣
did you sign up for service, or still in mom’s basement in pjs?
Jeez, people don’t get it even when you lay it on this thick.
It’s like Starship Troopers again
You forgot the ‘ /s ‘ for the tollbooth attendants here.
Iran will now target gulf states oil infrastructure in earnest. I seriously doubt Iran’s capability is degraded even close to what is claimed.
I seriously doubt that you know what you are talking about.
I seriously doubt you are not a pussy.
look, lunix process on mi6/cia computer pretends to be human
it takes one single DRONE TO HIT TANKER
AS LONG AS Hormuz is closed. world is fuc11ked
Trump will never succeed in changing the regime in Iran without sending an invading army. A nation as big as Iran will require sending more soldiers than we have available, which means reinstituting a draft. If he does that, this may become the most unpopular war in American history.
Plan changes by the hour.
By the way, we are being kept in the dark about American losses, destruction in Israel (even images from last June are still illegal & filtered), destruction of American military assets.
During the operation against Yemen, they lost an MQ Reaper every month on average. They also lost 3 planes, one of which was said to have slid off the deck because the carriers went around the corner on 2 wheels. LOL. Now they have stories about Kuwait AD knocking out F-15s, no, wait, it was a Kuwaiti pilot is almost an ace no, wait it’s 5 F-15s by now. Ha Ha.
The stories and tales are getting implausible-ER.
Yup. Whatever the US government says, believe the opposite. Empire of Lies.
=we are being kept in the dark about American losses
actually no! those BSs are signs of being fuc11ekd in ass in iran!
otherwise they would already prancing on tv
Locating and taking control of the stockpile of 60% enriched uranium that Iran has could be positioned as “A very good reason”. I don’t see how any form of victory, unconditional or otherwise, could be declared without gaining control of this stockpile. It seems unlikley that an aerial bombing campaign alone will force Iran to turn it over. That’s the time when Trump will pivot to ground forces. The 2026 Iranian ground forces are far superior to the 2003 Iraqi ground forces, so even a surgical strike of “go in, get the uranium, and get out” is going to require a huge number of troops.
Assuming anyone knows where this uranium is.
The Chief Pedophile of the United States needs to get his latest instructions from the Mossad. Good thing they have those incriminating videos!
Draft Barron
Ground troops would only be needed if we are losing! Oops
Trump is a tragic shakespearean figure….. i asked Gemini which one he was most like, it said
1. Coriolanus
2. Richard III
3. King Lear
But those characters had a soul….
They’re even sending cartoonesque bites from video games and TV series in an attempt to TikTokize this thing.
Shakespeare and Trump should not be in the same sentence.
We all agree this war is asymmetrical.
How could it not be?
On one side you have people like:
Dr. Ali Larijani (Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran) author of three essays on Immanuel Kant, his writings are studied in Western universities:
• The Mathematical Method in Kant’s Philosophy
• Metaphysics and the Exact Sciences in Kant’s Philosophy
• Intuition and the Synthetic A Priori Judgments in Kant’s Philosophy
And:
Dr. Abbas Araghchi (Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iran) PhD from the University of Kent.
His doctoral thesis:
“The Evolution of the Concept of Political Participation in Twentieth-Century Islamic Political Thought.”
And on the other side?
Donald Trump.
A man whose vocabulary barely exceeds 200 words.
Most famous quote:
“Grab ’em by the pussy.”
Funniest post on the Internet award for the day!
Hamlet… but that is too noble.
MacBeth mebbe?
Out out damned spot.
Trump could be a turd in the punch bowl as the Three Witches stir it.
Not making the headlines are Israel’s recent real estate acquisitions.They are taking ownership of all of southern Lebanon.
While Gaza was grabbing the headlines, Israel expanded further in the West Bank and stole more land from the Palestinians there.
There are nutcases in charge in Israel who want to expand even further into neighboring countries because the land was promised to them by none other than God himself.
You need to watch the Tucker Carlson — Huckabee interview. Evidently the whole middle east belongs to Israel now. The Gaza genocide was just a warm up.
I dont think they gave back the heights they took from syria a year or two ago. The mt top over look.
Slacking a bit on my bible lessons. I thought the land was promised to the children of Abraham. He had one child with his slave because he could not have a child with his wife. The his wife had a kid. One child is the start of islam and the other .of Judaism.
If so its a family argument and its best to stay out of family arguments. .
Islam didn’t start until thousands of years after Abraham.
Israel definitely is never giving back the mountain top they took in Syria. It’s the high ground that lets them see into Syria in the same way Syria saw into Israel for decades.
There’s more to the story. Abraham had three wives. The founders of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and the twin religions of the Bâb and the Baha’i Faith are all his descendants. Each of these religions prophesied the next. There is a book a titled “One prophet, five religions” which details this long continuum.
– President Trump said he wouldn’t be encouraging Kurdish militia to take on the Iranian government, but that U.S. ground troops could be sent in if there were a “very good reason.”
> So Trump is not encouraging anyone to go fight. In fact, it appears as though he is saying, Only If a “A Very Good Reason” and then American Troops would go.
>> Trumps stance from the start, was for Iranians to take back their now peaceful Country. It may just work…
Really? Is that before or after total surrender and he picks a new leader for them?
If they are too lame to pick their own leader, then one will need to be picked for them.
yes pussy, go over there with an M-16 and help them decide it. pussy.
Iran is a democratic country. They have been picking their own leaders since 1979.
are you drunk or something?
They all said Hormuz closure would be brief. What if they were wrong?
https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1156532/They-all-said-Hormuz-closure-would-be-brief-What-if-they-were-wrong
If it isn’t a brief closure then the global economy will suffer greatly.
People have no idea. The stock market might crash but then trading will be halted and no one will be allowed to trade or get money out. There may be bank runs and cash limit withdrawals or flat out bank crashes.
Who knows what will happen with bond market.
If fuel gets very expensive deliveries to Walmart & Costco and every grocery store will stop. Truckers won’t have the money to pay for gas. Airlines won’t have fuel for flights. Cargo ships won’t have fuel, etc.
I warned people to stock up on food but the clueless will wait till the store shelves are bare.
THE SKY WILL FALL!
Oh, it’s just a few raindrops…sorry.
According to FM Araghchi they have not closed Hormuz.
But it cannot be said to be open either.
America’s brave soldiers will do whatever it takes to drive the Trumpstien files out of the news cycle. No sacrifice is too much for any Real American.
Vietnam II. Seems to be a trait of humans. Incapable of learning from the past.
No, just a trait of American rednecks.
“What’s reported above must be fake news.”
The post about Iran hitting an Israeli nuclear site does appear to be fake news. Grok is noting it was resurfaced footage from a 2023 Ukraine munitions site.
Trump could send in small teams like special forces (if not already there), but the U.S. can no longer effectively prepare troops for a mass invasion within the Middle East so long as Iran possesses capabilities to launch drones and ballistic missiles. Our air defenses are clearly not up to task, and our interceptor stocks will soon be exhausted. At this rate, within a week Israel is going to have its infrastructure being torn apart, with no answers for how to stop it except to use a nuke (and even that probably won’t stop it).
Thanks added a note
“At this rate, within a week Israel is going to have its infrastructure being torn apart”
Tell us more. Anything specific in mind? All that stuff needs to be rebuilt and someone is going to have to do it for $$$ and I’d like to know where my US tax dollars will be spent on rebuilding Israel so I can at least bank some of that money back.
Desalination plants in Israel and GCC countries. Iran just had a desalination plant bombed, so the precedent has been set and desalination plants are now fair game.
Thanks. Got a good list, surprised by some of the biggest names on the list but then again this whole thing was a setup wasn’t it.
Bombing the desalination plant was an excellent idea! Tehran was suffering a severe water shortage before the war. They were considering rebuilding the city somewhere closer to water.
What are they going to do now? Call Costco for a delivery of bottled water? No, without water, they can’t survive and will have to surrender.
This is what Israel should have done in Gaza. Cut off all the water and free UN food.
No, better would have been for Israel to build big camps, herd the Palestinians into it, taken out their gold teeth and forced them to work in camps to make Israeli bombs and munitions, branded them with tattoos with IDs for identification, sterilized the women so they can’t recreate, and reported that many of them died from ‘unknown causes’.
I mean, use the Stephen Miller playbook on people from shithole countries after all.
Israel’s desalination plants will be knocked out.
That is called genocide…
= in small teams like special forces (if
for what? find out about local weather?
effective distance kill is about 250*300 meters for such ops,
so what are you going to do if someone spotted you from 1 km?
Americans watch too many movies!!
A nuke may very well bring most of the rest of the world in, against Israel.
Talking 82nd. Israel hit their refineries so Iran returned the favor. Iran has been mapping and removing radar blinding and minimizing or eliminating anti missile & drone defenses. Tougher to calculate an intercept less than a minute warning compared to 5+ minutes. Iran has been using decoy blow up tanks, launchers & jets for targets depleting
Will the US tax payer have to foot the whole bill for the Israeli part of the Iran operation as well? While the US military may be blowing „only“ $1–2 billion through the expense chimney every day, the scale of the Israeli bombing campaign seems to be even more expensive.
Yes
I assume that Trump is hoping that, if he and the Israelis can do enough damage to the Revolutionary Guards, the Persian Army will be the only organized force left standing, and that it will step in, ask for a ceasefire, and restore order.
What happens after that is of course unknown. But given that the mullahs have been running the place for forty or fifty years and have apparently made themselves thoroughly hated, I wouldn’t expect that the incoming government would have a strong religious tendency.
… which would mean they would be leery of the psuedo-Christian kookery surrounding Trumpstien.
Don’t believe everything you think.
You mean just like Afghanistan? Why don’t you use your fantastical mind to tell us what went wrong there. After all that was a whole 20 years, essentially one whole generation grew up with America being in control there before it left then reverted to Talibanism.
I don’t think Persia is Afghanistan. Persia is an old civilization, which produced some scraps of writing that are still quoted today. It predates the Moslem takeover.
People with modern ideas should contemplate the possibility that things like the Moslem (and Christian) religion are what happen when you get a reaction from decadence. You get cruelty, especially to women.
Afghanistan is more a backwoods place. They have cruelty there, too, especially to boys. “Women are for procreation, boys are for pleasure.” But the thing about the Afghans is that history has shown that they are very hard to defeat. Even the women are vicious. “When you lie wounded on Afghanistan’s plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, then roll to your rifle and blow out your brains, and go to your Gawd like a soldier.”
As I understand it, Persians are largely intelligent people, and most of them probably don’t like their religion any more than we like our own backward cult. They aren’t savages.
‘Trump Threatens Iran with “Complete Destruction and Certain Death”’
Well, if that doesn’t win them over to accept American overlords, nothing will.
What about Second Complete Destruction?
And Elevensies?
“Are we the baddies?”
https://youtu.be/ToKcmnrE5oY?si=8uu9A7xc3wiLgiP1
He’s just upping the braggadocious former Ayatollah!
Get out of Iran now! Let Iran get nuclear weapons. That will make my oil and gas stocks soar. Also, let Iran sell those Shaheed drones to Russia, so Russia can take over Ukraine and then maybe other countries. That will make my defense stocks soar.
You sound upset.
Are you drunk?