War Escalations, Military Aid, Forced Defaults: How Might a Cornered Putin Respond?

Streamlined Military Aid

Ukraine Lend Lease Act

On Monday, Biden signed the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act, a  law aimed at streamlining US military aid to Ukraine. 

The president is also asking Congress for $33 billion in aid for Ukraine. 

Realistically, military aid will prolong the war. And the more that gets destroyed, the more we can Build Back Better. 

Treasury Weighing Whether to Force Russia Into Defaulting

Russia makes debt payments via exemptions to sanctions. 

Janet Yellen says Treasury Weighing Whether to Let Kremlin Payment Exemption Expire

Ms. Yellen said the Treasury hasn’t yet made a decision on whether the license should expire, but it was evaluating the risks and impact and would decide shortly. She made the remarks during a hearing at the Senate Banking Committee in response to questioning from Sen. Mike Rounds (R., S.D.)

“We want to make sure that we understand what the potential consequences and spillovers would be allowing the license to expire,” Ms. Yellen said.

Potential Consequences

Interestingly, the first consequence is Russia would keep more of its foreign reserves. The pain would fall on Russia’s creditors, primarily in the EU. 

There are far more serious things that could happen, but first let’s check up on what Germany and the EU are doing.

EU Weapons Delivery 

On April 28, DW reported German Lawmakers Overwhelmingly Approve Heavy Weapons Deliveries to Ukraine. 

Q: So are weapons now being sent?
A: No!

The vote was for show, not reality.

Germany Not Delivering Weapons After All 

Eurointelligence reported on May 6, Germany Not Delivering Weapons After All

Unsurprisingly, the German public is divided over weapons deliveries to Ukraine, with a small majority in favour. Olaf Scholz’ political error has been, and continues to be, his attempt to straddle the two camps, ending up alienating both. His strategy is to be seen as supporting Ukraine in public while frustrating help in the background. It is unsurprising therefore that the Germans are thinking of him as a weak leader.

The latest news is that the last week’s policy U-turn on weapons deliveries is actually not happening. A report in Die Welt, which reads like a Kafka story, suggests that the German government wasn’t able to find the ammunition for the Gepard tanks. When confronted with this information, the chancellery refused to comment. They never comment on weapons deliveries. It’s top secret for a reason.

Orbán Threatens Veto

Meanwhile, in Hungary (also via Eurointelligence) Victor Orbán Threatens Veto.

Hungary’s foreign minister has formally notified the EU that his country would veto oil sanctions against Russia. 

As of 2020, Hungary received about 60% of its oil imports from Russia, and as a landlocked country it has limited alternatives for receiving seaborne oil. 

Consider the statement Péter Szijjártó, Hungary’s foreign minister, made after Ursula von der Leyen’s meeting with Viktor Orbán, in which he said, of the country’s energy security, that, “As long as the European Commission does not offer a solution to these problems, Hungary will not be able to support the sanctions package, as in this form, without proposals for solutions, this package will amount to an atomic bomb dropped on the Hungarian economy.”

Sanctions in the EU require unanimous approval so one nation can block anything. Here, Germany is happy that Hungary is doing the dirty work. 

What About Gazprombank?

Germany, and other European countries willing to pay for oil in Rubles and refuse to sanction Gazprombank. 

Meanwhile, Reuters reported on Sunday U.S. imposes sanctions on 27 Gazprombank executives, Russian TV stations

Note that the US sanctioned the executives and not the company so that the EU can keep paying Russia for natural gas. 

“This is not a full block. We’re not freezing the assets of Gazprombank or prohibiting any transactions with Gazprombank,” a senior Biden administration official told reporters. “What we’re signaling is that Gazprombank is not a safe haven, and so we’re sanctioning some of their top business executives … to create a chilling effect.”

Chilling?!

While the EU mostly sits on its ass, the US is doing the sanctions.

Q: Why is it the US is far more interested in sending weapons and sanctioning Russia than the EU? 
A: It’s the gas stupid. 

How long before Russia has had enough of this game? 

Surely Russia can see the EU doing everything it can to reduce dependence on Russian energy.

What if Putin Cuts the Gas?

Eurointelligence founder Wolfgang Münchau asks What if Putin Cuts the Gas?

Good chess players calculate the moves of the opponents several moves head. When we Europeans draw up oil sanctions, we look at ourselves: at how much it hurts us, what exemptions we can agree on for the Hungarians, and whether the Germans need a bit more time. We calculate the economic effects based on current prices and the current level of trade. Our analysis is static.

But we are not asking the questions that matter the most: how will Vladimir Putin respond? Are we prepared? How will we respond after he has responded? 

Previously, I believed it would make no sense for him to cut off European gas supplies. As much as we are dependent on him for gas, he is dependent on us for his foreign exchange earnings, especially after we cut off his access to foreign exchange reserves. But this is too static a view. For as long as the west supplies unlimited amounts of arms to Ukraine, he is unlikely to win a conventional war against Ukraine. A gas embargo, or a threat of a gas embargo, might be his best option. Or his only option.

The German government has been very hesitant in its support for Ukraine. It is far from certain that the German public is willing to endure a cold winter and an economic depression for the sake of Ukraine, and for the sake of transatlantic unity.

Of all European countries, Germany and Austria are among the least ready. The estimates we have seen suggest that it would take at least until 2024 for those countries to wean themselves off Russian gas. In reality, even this is an optimistic calculation based on sanguine liquefied natural gas supply and infrastructure forecasts. It also does not account for the fact that the green energy transition requires an increase in absolute gas consumption, not just keeping it at current levels.

So what happens if he imposes a gas embargo? The short-term consequence would be stagflation, and in Germany possibly a depression. There are long-term structural consequences too, which would be far more important than a recession. It will no longer make sense for Germany to produce bulk chemicals, for example. Many production plants would have to close. Germany is not a particularly flexible economy. It will take time for the shift in resources to complete, much longer than it would take in the US, for example.

Elsewhere in Europe, fiscal deficits would explode. Sovereign debt crises would return to countries with weak fiscal systems. Financial instability and structural rigidities is where we are most vulnerable.

So I keep asking myself the question: have we really thought this through?

Have We Really Thought This Through?

That’s an excellent question and I ask the same of Wolfgang Münchau.

Flashback, April 2, After Bucha by Wolfgang Münchau.

Germany and Italy are the financial sponsors of Russian war crimes. Gas deliveries have to end now.

Of course, the war won’t stop the minute you stop the gas. But it is our purchases of Russian gas and oil in the past that has given Putin the resources to fund his war today. 

Limited Nuclear War

While the EU is hesitant to do anything, the US appears hell bent on goading Putin to do something radical. 

In arguably the most idiotic and irresponsible column in history on the WSJ, writer Seth Cropsey says The U.S. Should Show It Can Win a Nuclear War

Meanwhile, the EU, fearing a cutoff of gas, is busy hiding its head under the table pretending to impose sanctions. 

Weaponizing the US Dollar 

Finally, has the US really thought through weaponizing the dollar? 

On March 18, I asked What Does China Do With a Dollar That’s No Longer Risk Free? Buy Gold?

For now, China has no good answer as a Deadly Embrace Complicates Matters. But smaller countries have more options.

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BDR45
BDR45
1 year ago
This is like supporting Biden because you hate Trump. Why should we even be concerned about a seriously corrupt country of minor importance on the other side of the world? Why do US and other Western politicians have so much penis envy over Russia that they are willing to chance a world war with a heavily nuclear armed country? What’s the agenda? Why is the public being propagandized against Russia?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
I posted a comment yesterday that got intercepted by the moderation AI with this message:
Your comment has been submitted and will be reviewed by a moderator
But I don’t see it posted today. In fact, I have NEVER seen a comment that got blocked by moderation get posted. This needs to be fixed.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
I rescind this comment. Apparently, my moderated post DID get posted.
It would be helpful to send a notification when a moderated post has beenposted.
LM2022
LM2022
1 year ago
The problem is, Putain invaded Crimea in 2014 and the west didn’t do anything, thus emboldening the dictator. He’s been given a bloody nose now and looks like a doddering old fool sitting at his 40 foot long table. The goal for the west should be to demilitarize Russia so it can never again be a threat to its neighbors.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  LM2022
Will be hard to take his nukes away. Probably need the alien overlords to come down and take everyone’s nukes away.
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
It’s nukey time! Boom!
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Read more of this conversation” is really annoying!
Why do we have to open another webpage to read one or two additional posts? What is the purpose of this foolishness? Can it be turned off?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Biden proposes sanctioning EU executives that refuse to sanction Russian executives?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Sounds like a good idea.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
I need to repeat this out loud so I’m sure that I understand.
You lend someone money.
Then you prevent them from paying the money back, even though they can pay it back.
Then you penalize them for not paying it back.
Did I miss anything?
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Wonder if Hitler and Napoleon think it’s a good idea to have a protracted war with Russia. Who thinks we have any chance of winning a war with Russia? We couldn’t defeat the Taliban.
They’ll just dig in and let us waste lots of arms accomplishing nothing. That’s what the Russian’s are very good at.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Who is invading Russia?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
It’s not like supplying arms to Ukraine accomplishes nothing.
Supplying arms can put the Ukrainians back in the stone age.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
You raise a good point. When a country tries to invade another country, and the other country wishes to resist at all costs, it becomes very costly for the invader. There are many examples, such as France and Germany invading Russia, or Russia or the US attempting to occupy Afghanistan. Will Russia enjoy a protracted war in Ukraine? We shall see, I guess.
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
We know exactly what Putin thinks — he has told us.
He said the sanctions were inevitable sooner or later, so they don’t matter.
It also means the Russians have been gaming this out years in advance !
as long as the west supplies unlimited amounts of arms to Ukraine, he is unlikely to win a conventional war against Ukraine
They are not getting anything useful and none of it will matter.
Most of it will never get to the frontlines (why do you think they target “shopping centers”)
No. The West will lose and there is nothing they can do.
Even direct involvement of NATO would mean losing, but with a real risk that the US would need to resort to nuclear arms after losing 40,000 troops in short order.
Dutoit
Dutoit
1 year ago
Biden Wanted $33B More For Ukraine. Congress Quickly Raised it to $40B. Who Benefits?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Ukraine? The MIC?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Another reason to go after Russia and put them out of business, once and for all. We should have retaliated in kind and jammed Russian’s GLONASS system.
———-
Russia Was Behind Cyberattack in Run-Up to Ukraine War, Investigation Finds
May 10, 2022, 6:51 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON — A cyberattack that took down satellite communications in Ukraine in the hours before the Feb. 24 invasion was the work of the Russian government, the United States and European nations declared on Tuesday, officially fixing the blame for an attack that rattled Pentagon officials and private industry because it revealed new vulnerabilities in global communications systems.
In a coordinated set of statements, the governments blamed Moscow but did not explicitly name the organization that conducted the sophisticated effort to black out Ukrainian communications. But American officials, speaking on condition of anonymity about the specifics of the findings, said that it was the Russian military intelligence agency, the G.R.U. — the same group responsible for the 2016 hack of the Democratic National Committee and a range of attacks on the U.S. and Ukraine.
“This unacceptable cyberattack is yet another example of Russia’s continued pattern of irresponsible behavior in cyberspace, which also formed an integral part of its illegal and unjustified invasion of Ukraine,” Josep Borrell Fontelles, the European Union’s top diplomat, said in a statement. “Cyberattacks targeting Ukraine, including against critical infrastructure, could spill over into other countries and cause systemic effects putting the security of Europe’s citizens at risk.”
….
Columbo
Columbo
1 year ago
This war is looking like another Afghanistan for Russia. Lots of similarities, determined foe and U.S. arms backing. Hunker down until Putin says uncle.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Columbo
Or instead of saying uncle, will Putin go tactical nuke?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Who cares? If he does, the West will come a knocking.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Putin can knock back. You should care.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Not worried at all.
Columbo
Columbo
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
I don’t think he will use nukes. When the Russians (Putin) has had enough, some type of settlement will occur unless the Ukrainians can drive them out.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Columbo
It also looks like another Afghanistan for us.
Columbo
Columbo
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
If you mean militarily we supply arms (along with NATO countries) and intelligence, yes it’s similar to Afghanistan.
Dutoit
Dutoit
1 year ago
Some news from the Russian side or supporters.
What is not clear is how much of this weaponry reaches the battlefield. Russia is progressively destroying all the Ukrainian rail infrastructure, as well as numerous bridges, roads and fuel stocks. There are also everyday news of destruction of weapon stocks. Of course this will also depend on which arms, the bigger will be the most difficult to deliver. During the Vietnam war, North Vietnam and Vietcong used to carry arms through the jungle, where it was easy to hide. Nothing similar in Ukraine.
Moreover it seems that many of these weapons are defective, in particular the old ones, and many of them are caught by Russians and allies, the armies of the separatist republics are more and more equipped with western weapons.
It seems also that the Ukrainians troops consist more and more of very young or very old people (according to cadavers left on the battlefield), this looks like the “Volksturm” of the end of Hitler regime. There are also news of demonstrations against drafts in some parts of Ukraine.
I think that Russia will stop when Novorossia is conquered, i.e. more or less everything on the right of a line between Kharkov and Odessa. After that the left side will be considered as a country where it is not necessary to spare the inhabitants, and the war will be much more deadly for Ukrainians.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
That meme has been popping up everywhere today. It’s the good old Russian firehouse propaganda tactic. You make something up and feed it through as many outlets as possible hoping that sheer quantity will influence someone somewhere. It’s quantity propaganda over quality. Personally I prefer the quality Russian propaganda because it is more interesting.
Dutoit
Dutoit
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
When you look at the two propagandas, you see that very often they say the same thing : today the Russian soldiers get very depressed (a “new” from British intel), and the Ukrainian soldiers too (interviews of prisoners and deserters). Maybe the two are true.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Now that is much better! Of course both sides do it. The depressed Russian soldier is a popular meme and since actual interviews with captured soldiers are rare and when they do happen are always suspect. One can dismiss them not because they are true or untrue but because they are too hard to prove. Abandoned equipment and lack of progress do give the indication that there could be a lack of motivation. In any case Ukraine is much better at communicating why they are fighting and why the West should help them while the Russian side’s communication rests on a very tenuous historical precedent and on what are basically attempts at intimidation. Ukraine played it well while Russia didn’t.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
‘I Simply Refuse’: Wiretaps Catch Putin’s Troops Breaking Own Tanks in Sabotage Scheme
Russian troops have begun sharing tips with one another on how to deliberately damage Russian tanks and disobey orders, according to Ukrainian intelligence.
May. 06, 2022 12:49PM ET
Russian fighters have been sharing tips with one another about how to deliberately damage their own equipment and hamper Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war plans in Ukraine, according to recordings of alleged Russian troops’ phone calls that the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) intercepted.
In one regiment, one Russian soldier allegedly said they’ve been pouring sand into the tanks’ fuel systems to clog them up.
….
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
You seem to be a source of US propaganda.
jiminy
jiminy
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Don’t forget the Japanese were really insects and the Germans of ww1 were bayonetting children.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Everything that I say can be verified. That is the difference.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
You’re just echoing US propaganda.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
What no explanations nor delving deeply into what I have said looking for inconsistencies and outright falsehoods? Just a one-liner that resumes to “duh, I don’t like what you said”. What happened to subtility, intelligence and verbal logical constructions on your side? I miss them greatly.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
I don’t think Novorossia was in the plan, but now given all out “support” from the West and ensuing end of negotiations, it is more likely than ever.
Nuddernoitall
Nuddernoitall
1 year ago
Your sub-headline says, “Has anyone clearly thought this through? Are we inching towards direct military involvement?” THAT is a very fair and very logical question to ask. But, after several months there still have not been any local “town hall ” discussions with the peasants; haven’t been official discussions and debate in the House and Senate; haven’t been print, broadcast and electronic media “moderating” the pros and cons of current US policy in Ukraine, Russia, the EU and other players affected.
More times that not, just the thought that someone or a group of US citizens wish to apply some breaks and talk this out a bit — ya know, just to make sure everyone understand the perils of unintended consequences — well, you may have noticed those people, the people with very fair and logical questions, are quickly dismissed and hereto ignored.
When both political parties, mostly all media, DC power whales and of course our long established (always altruistic) military industrial complex all agree on a policy path — I shudder. I’ve seen this movie before and It really never ends well, does it?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Nuddernoitall
We have a representative government. Such issues don’t need to be talked out or approved by the hoi polloi. The media and especially the cable news stations already do a fair job of revealing info that they shouldn’t be talking about.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Nuddernoitall
Relax! This won’t really be a problem until folks questioning policy are being arrested and incarcerated. If enough of them are, then we can start talking about doing something about it.
ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
1 year ago

John Quincy Adams’ opinion:

“America goes not
abroad in search of monsters to destroy; she is the well-wisher to the freedom
and independence of all; she is the champion and vindicator only of her own.”

JRM
JRM
1 year ago
the only people that believe Ukraine is winning the “WAR” are smoking what the WEST Intel/MSM are giving them!!!
Russia continues to advance on all fronts, contrary to Ukraine “PROPAGANDA”!!!
Iraq land mass 434,128 sq. Km
Ukraine land mass about 600,000 sq.km
And the coalition of the willing didn’t win in Iraq!
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
I’m not sure your point, here. Are you saying that a determined country, fighting for it’s home, is difficult to defeat, even by a powerful military (e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan)? If so, I agree that recent history is on that side. Even if Russia appears to conquer Ukraine, they may have difficulty governing it. In any case, this site is the best I have found as far as who is advancing where:
It seems likely that this is going to take awhile to resolve itself.
brainy
brainy
1 year ago
Reply to  JRM
I too (in Geramny) am fed up with the ‘Ukraine wins’ propaganda. Esp. it’s quite obvious, that more and more made up LIES get shown.
OTOH – if you want 1:1 russian-side propaganda: link to southfront.org
Now I’m really not trying to say: “that’s all true” on that side….
BUT – after I LOOK at BOTH sides – and assuming, that ‘the truth(tm)’ is always somewhere in between … you get a better picture.
so yeah – somewhere in between – but the UKR-side (the only side they show in our MSMs here) is clearly JUST propaganda …
…my current impression is, that the UKRs are slowly but losing it …
John k
John k
1 year ago
Russia does not fund the war with gas or oil sales. They can’t buy anything bc sanctions, can’t be spent in Russia to pay troops or buy fuel, and are only useful for Russians wanting a Turkish holiday…. It’s these that are buying euros in the open market op, and bidding less and less for euros on offer from the bank (so many on offer bc so few ways u can spend them) thus driving up rouble vs euro.
So with little need for euros Russia has little need to sell energy to eu.
They will pivot to China very quickly, selling energy and buying mfg goods. China is very good at quickly building pipelines and roads, Russia/China trade with eu will shift to trade with each other. Eu in serious trouble. And new waves of immigrants.as hunger pushes the locals out of Africa.
China sees the writing on the wall, trade surplus now counter productive. Do they need ever more dollars? What for? Gonna be confiscated anyway. Better pay their workers more so they can afford to buy what they produce. Fund that with export duties.
The new world order is balanced trade. Remember, foreign wars are an import. Gonna be unaffordable.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  John k
You don’t think China and anyone who trades with Russia is giving away whatever Russia needs right now for free?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Obviously you have never dealt with the Chinese.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Almost nothing is ever free. If you know Asians, they NEVER give anything away for free. They will bargain you to death for a nickel.
There is always cost.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Hey folks , I just smoked another joint and had another glass of wine….and all of a sudden I saw the light of eternal wisdom: live is su
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
…..You ll never know , I am afraid….my lady friend says it is NOW time to go to bed ….it is almost 3am….she s right ….as usual
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Never fear, Biden (the acclaimed international statesman) will save the day.
Seriously, what did we expect after the Afghan Retreat?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
The longer this goes the more everyone is going to realize that Putin should have gone the Nuclear route on day 1. One tactical bomb would have killed maybe 50 thousand Ukrainian armed forces and ended the war. The US would never have fired back because doing so would end the entire world.
Counter that with:
1) Likely more than 50K dead already with no end in sight.
2) Unknown number of Russians dead (probably 20K).
3) More than 5 million displaced into Europe with no end in sight and no path to return.
4) Multiple cities / infrastructure destroyed entirely that will require decades to fix.
5) No crops planted.
All against 50K dead soldiers from a single nuke.
The math doesn’t make sense to continue this war. It should have gone nuclear a long time ago. The only possible reason Putin hasn’t is that he hopes to win hearts/minds in Ukraine in the Eastern part he plans to split into it’s own republic and that in 10 years or so after this finally ends the West will go back to business as usual.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Would France or Britain retaliate with nukes? Probably not, but NATO most definitely would.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
NATO is a concept, an organization of countries. NATO doesn’t own any nukes.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I rather doubt that would have been a good plan for Putin. I’m not sure what the outcome would have been, but I rather doubt that it would have been to say “OK, Putin, take whatever you want”.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
You should send your resume to Putin. I understand he is running short of military officers who previously provided strategy.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Way too risky. And it would have made parts of Ukraine unlivable for years.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Wolfgang Münchau of Euro intelligence wrote this piece which goes against many government policies in Europe and the USA. By writing it he did not come under any government sanctions and did not break any laws. If he had written an article in Russia which did not please the Russian government then he would have been fired and sent to jail for up to 15 years. That is the difference and that difference counts more than just money. Wolfgang hadn’t thought it through or perhaps that freedom isn’t important to him. There are people like that.
As an aside several years ago Germany sold Guepards to Brazil so they brought back from them 300,000 rounds of ammunition to give to Ukraine to use in the ones they gave them.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
SO, what exactly is your point ?… if you don t mind me asking….
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
That you don’t get the point is my point. You do not see the value of freedom because you have never had it so you do not see it sweetness and don’t understand why people who have tasted freedom will fight to keep it. You are a slave who loves his servitude.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Freedom is nice, but having a government without corruption is even nicer.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Some have no freedom plus corruption. The most corrupt countries are also the least free.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Forced to make a choice which one do you choose?
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Freedom with present but little corruption but where a citizen can investigate it and eventually get it overturned as opposed to a country with no freedom and where corruption is the only way to survive and if you try to expose it you will be disappeared. That is the choice.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Appeasement doesn’t work.
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
1 year ago
The continued provocations will lead to a retaliation which will unite the American people and distract from current economic and social woes. Ideally it all plays out just prior to the upcoming elections. An added benefit is a restriction on liberties. A “minor retaliation” will be acceptable, like a “minor incursion” by Russia was acceptable. Or so goes the Left’s thinking.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  RunnerDan
I think this was the Biden plan all along–a Great Distraction, not from economic/social woes, but Democratic Party and Biden’s MALFEASANCE.
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
I think needs to be pointed out that Putin invaded Ukraine because of efforts by past presidents and secretaries of state, who do not need to be named, to incorporate Ukraine into the US sphere of influence, or better yet, NATO. There is no way Russia would ever see that as anything but an existential threat, hence this war. The US had little to gain by trying to move Ukraine from a neutralist position, and a vast amount to lose. We’ll be lucky if this doesn’t end up in World War III.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
Russia could have just continued with its business, forgon invading other countries and act like a modern, civilized country focused on improving its country and its citizens. There was no reason to get paranoid and worry about anyone attacking them, especially pipsqueak countries like Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya, etc.
But nooooooooooo.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
I truly believe Putin was give a time frame on his health conditions and acted accordingly. The pictures from a few years ago to the way he looks, acts and walks now are quite telling. He knows he is running out of time. I think Putin wanted to make his mark on history more than anything else and in his mind sees Russia as the country that was conquered by the West. The thing Putin never took the time to understand is why this was so. In his mind, he has all the answers and still thinks the Soviet Union was great and wanted to restore the Russia empire to its greatness (in his mind).
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
That is not at all impossible.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
What the fck are you on about all of the time concerning Putin’s health?!….he s 70 , remember , so don t expect to see the fn athlete he used to be …..why don t you concentrate rather on your senile deep state , corrupt US mfng president instead, undeniably contributing to the fn end of the planet….
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
In a perfect world, of course. But, would have been like the US ignoring Canada becoming a member of the Warsaw Pact with, sooner rather than later, Russian forces camped out in Windsor, Ontario. On the plus side, Detroit would have been destroyed in any attack. Wait, never mind, that’s happened already. I can remember when it used to be a pretty nice town…
Be that as it may, it would have been infinitely smarter for the US to leave Ukraine as neutral, but no, Ukraine had to become a US satellite. You can’t expect Russia to be OK with US troops camped out right on its border, which is what would have happened if Ukraine had joined NATO. This is a completely needless war.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
If Putin wasn’t a warmonger, there would not be any reason for any troops to be parked on his borders, yes?
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
In a perfect world, no. Unfortunately, we live in a real world with real consequences for ill-conceived strategic overreach. The time is long past where the West and Russia trust each other.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
So he slaughtered a few thousand people and destroyed a few dozen cities… is that REALLY anything to get all shooty over?
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
So he should have waged war on faraway countries like the US did with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia…. ?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
It would help your insightful understanding of international politics if you engaged in critical thinking along the way. Begin with the obvious issues–study history. Enough history and you will realize that the American media lies whenever it suits their purpose, and censors by omission.
hmk
hmk
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Absolutely correct. He needs to follow the US example and lay waste to the middle east killings hundreds of thousand innocent citizens. No war crimes there, nothing to see. Geez are you that naive???
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  hmk
The Middle East ain’t Russia. D’oh.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
Russia could have joined NATO had Putin thought and governed differently back in the late 1990s. Now he going to get two more NATO Members even closer to Moscow than Ukraine is.
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Check your facts, Russia asked to join NATO and NATO rejected it!!!!
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
Russia has a historical precedent for fearing the west. It has been brutally attacked more than once by western armies.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball

When was the last time a nuclear armed country was invaded ?Russia has nothing to fear but Putin’s insanity.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Maybe Russia fears America’s first strike capacity, NATO troops on the border, and its vast natural resources needed by the west.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Then it should be working to better itself rather than wasting effort on subsuming pipsqueak countries. No matter how big Russia gets from gobbling up other countries, someone will alway be on their border and they don’t get to choose who it is.
Stop posting stupid Captain.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
You forgot to include Canada having chemical and biological weapons facilities funded by Russia.
Jmurr
Jmurr
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
The US could have done the same instead of the actions it and NATO took in Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Jmurr
Whataboutism isn’t a valid argument. Over and done. Should have complained back then. What? You did complain? Then I guess you didn’t have any agency then and you don’t have any now. Keep whining. No one in power is listening to you.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
You have just made my case for not voting in the current elections.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Then you allow others to take control. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
  • Some, very few, like Putin, are idealist, aren’ t they ? Others keep on bein wealth and bank account concentrated corrupt motherfrs, wanting to control the whole fn world and its mother, like the fn US of A, scheming to control and carve up the biggest most resources rich nation on the fn planet! ! Long live Putin !
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
finally, someone addresses the treasure involved. “the biggest most resources rich nation on the fn planet”
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Only a weak leader would allow his country to be invaded by foreigners–on the southern border.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Russia bad, western bloc good. We got it.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Now you’re getting it.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
So, why did the US get “paranoid” about a pipsqueak country like Cuba in 1962?
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
And why did we send an army half way around the world to fight North Vietnam?
hmk
hmk
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Exactly why didn’t we do that with CUBA???? Do you remember that little incident.??
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
The U.S. government could have kept its word and not moved NATO east. The U.S. government could have not meddled in the 1996
Russian election, which ultimately lead to Putin becoming president of Russia. McCain could have not meddled in Uklraine in the time frame of the overthrow of Yanukovich, which lead to what is occurring now.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
There is no Russia when it comes to talking about a country. There is only Putin. Putin is Russia and this is the way he wanted it. What is Putin so scared of ? Democracy ? Free people ? Liberty ? The answer is all of the above. Putin could have governed quite differently and Russians would have been better off. Instead Putin enriched himself and his cronies at the expense of everyone else. You can sit there and blame the US all you want but this all comes down to values. Putin is on the wrong side of history because he is scared that he can’t control the thoughts of his people. Russians are increasingly turning to VPNs and satellite internet to find out the truth about what’s actually happening in Ukraine. Putin is increasingly being cornered not by the Ukraine, Europe or the US, but a losing ideology that has never won out and that relies on fear, intimidation and control over his people.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Russian journalists’ rebel on Victory Day with anti-Putin articles – ‘Paranoid dictator’
RUSSIAN JOURNALISTS committed acts of rebellion on Russia’s Victory Day by publishing over 40 articles on a pro-Kremlin website stating that “Putin lied about Russia’s plans in Ukraine” and labelling the President a “dictator”.
Tue, May 10, 2022
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
About time. Hopefully there is a revolution in Moscow soon.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
How were those articles allowed to be published? Doesn’t Russia have a Disinformation Governance Bureau? Man, they are soooo “backward” 😉
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
British media are as tightly controlled as any country you can imagine. Any number of instances during this conflict of outright lies to discredit Russia. Frankly, I have no idea where the truth lies.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
It’s funny how you two are so desperate to spread absurd US propaganda. Things that no level headed person can possibly believe. You must work for the State Department or CIA.
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
There was a time during the 1990s when Russia could have become part of a peaceful West, the Russian people certainly wanted to do that. Unfortunately, the US and its allies decided that a weaker Russia equated to a more secure West. What nation will tolerate its power/security being deliberately weakened? OK, the US, when we go to war over Taiwan we’ll have to buy the bullets from China. But besides the US…..
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
A fair assessment. I should point out that this idiotic war is more his doing than the US’s, of course. But the US is not blameless.
hmk
hmk
1 year ago
Putin enriched himself and his cronies at the expense of everyone else. Unlike our politicians. We have the best government money can buy.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
There is always someone funding the other side of every war. Chinese and/or Russia funded North Korea, and North Viet Nam. Persia funded IED’s in Iraq. The US arming/funding skirmishes in Ukraine, Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and The Taliban in Afghanistan. How did that all work out for anyone except to destroy the host country.
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
A search of the literature will show that a surprising number of Americans would survive a 5000 nuke attack. So, in that respect the US could at least tie in a nuclear war. Of course, 90% of them would die within the year from starvation and disease since the US would be immediately back in the Stone Age.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
Still leaves 10%. The world could use a cleaning and restart anyway. We’d be good for another 100k years or so before we developed nukes again.
Actually, if you follow the ancient alien stuff, there are some who claim that a civilization existed more than 100 million years ago on Earth but destroyed itself with nuclear weapons. Supposedly, there are remnants of radioactivity in certain areas that don’t match with what would occur from regular ore deposits.
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
I meant to point out that the fool who wrote the Wall Street Journal article should have done some basic homework. The 90% death rate of survivors is a pretty firm number, not hyperbole.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
C’mon, get serious. It’s a freaking guess based on modeling that is no better than the failed modeling that occurred with Covid. It depends on how many nukes get though, how many actually explode, where they hit, etc., etc.
My belief is that a lot more will survive than many expect and certainly enough to begin civilization again.
There have been many, many SF stories written about post-apocalyptic civilizations. One of the more famous is from the 1950’s titled, “A Canticle for Leibowitz. Look it up. Plus, you can watch the Mad Max movies. [lol]
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
There is no guarantee that civilization can be restarted after that many nukes go off. The radioactivity will last for centuries because the nuclear plants will all be leaking for thousands of years.
More importantly, if you have to start from the stone age and move forward you need stone age resources and then gradually ramp up technology wise. Many of the old resources are exhausted / depleted (for example Oil is mostly gone so the Oil age of the last 100 years can’t be repeated 100 years from now) and what’s left requires very sophisticated technology to extract (that will all be destroyed in the war).
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Does the same apply to global climate change modelling. or just the stuff you don’t agree with?
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Maybe. But not germane to this conversation.
astroboy
astroboy
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
I’m well aware of Leibowitz.
Here’s some nonfiction reading.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
So depends on how the wind blows. If there were a large nuclear release, the winds would all be working different. Likely much speeded up, lot of shockwaves, increase in ocean temps, etc. etc. Again just modeling that may or may not be true.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
The only good news would be the reduction in democrat #s. /sarc
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  astroboy
Definitely worth it to get Ukraine into NATO.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Q: Why is it the US is far more interested in sending weapons and sanctioning Russia than the EU?
Ukraine is an oversees territory of USA, the empire that lays claim to do as it pleases. Russia just cheekily crossed the border to stake her own claim. The EU are vassals in the traditional sense borrowing their ideology, and cues from the empire.
It is very clear to all outside this circle who refuse to sanction Russia despite relentless pressure.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Because our country is run by war mongering democrats who will never suffer the consequences of their decisions.
josh
josh
1 year ago
Ukraine. The new virtue signal.
I see we’ve moved on from masks and abortion.
Back to war.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  josh
Not our fault. Blame Putin. The West is just responding to Putin’s provocations.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Explain that to me ! Maybe you started following up the issue since feb 24 which makes you a fn ignorant id iot ….so I d say do some homework ……The Stephen Lendman blog is a good daily source of info….to name just one …. open up your CNN brainwashed fn brain for once and for fn all I d say, and don t be a fn fool !
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
isn’t it just amazing how all the liberals are now pro war?
And if Bernie runs again, how does that clown explain how and why he honeymooned in Russia?
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
You rage because you can’t get Russian potato comrade!
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
One day, if I get hold of you I ll stuff a fn potatoe where you really don t want it to get stuffed, fn idi ot !
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
The only good potato is a fermented and distilled potato.
josh
josh
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Putin: the left’s scapegoat for everything…. literally.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
One hell of a GREAT article Mish ! Thank you !
Eighthman
Eighthman
1 year ago
Overall, the only explanation I can find in regard to the bizarre behavior of Western leaders is deep narcissism. Look at their language – they “demand”, “insist”, “compell”. Russia/China “must”….. That and they clearly are dominated by an isolated elite that neither knows nor cares about the fate of common people facing economic ruin.
As for thinking that the US can win a nuclear war, that’s one of those things you can only test once. Will my airbag work in an accident?
Long term, I will be happy if China comes to lead the world ( apparently now with Russian help). Full Disclosure on UFOS is long overdue and the USA is CLEARLY too xenophobic to ever be trusted with the shock of uncovering ET life. China can do much better, being rather alien themselves.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Eighthman
The US will not win a nuclear war. Russian nuke torpedoes will take out cities on the east and west coasts. The US has no defense. Game over.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
The horror!!!
The middle of the country is full of Republicans!
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Eighthman
No one can win a nuclear war. Hydrogen bombs are 1000x more powerful than what was dropped on Japan. Russia has single warheads that if they hit Baltimore, they would take out DC and Philadelphia also. No one would outside of a nuclear bunker would survive a nuclear attack. Those claiming otherwise are crazy war mongers who likely have access to a bunker.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Back to your cubbyhole Putin!
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Pentagon To Give Ukraine High-Precision Laser-Guided Rockets
Monday, May 09, 2022 – 10:50 PM
On Monday The Washington Post is reporting that for the first time the Pentagon will provide Ukrainian forces “high-precision laser-guided weapons” as part of the recently approved mammoth arms package amid Russia’s invasion.
As expected, defense contractors will continue seeing a windfall of profits: “The Pentagon is expanding delivery of commercially available weapons and military equipment to Ukraine, detailing on Friday its $136 million in purchases of aerial drones, laser-guided rockets, binoculars and other items set for shipment soon.”
The WaPo details further that “The weapons and equipment, to be purchased from U.S. companies, represent a separate category of military assistance than the vast quantities of armaments that the United States already has provided Ukraine from existing Pentagon stocks.”
….
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Insanity at its best ….thank you US of fn A , you are such a great democratic peace loving nation….I get my rocks off thinking about you …I do!
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
No matter how much you and a relatively few others whine and stomp your feet, the USA is thankfully not going to walk away from Ukraine.
And it is $40 billion, not $33.
———–
U.S. Congress plans nearly $40 bln more for Ukraine, COVID aid to wait
May 9, 2022
WASHINGTON, May 9 (Reuters) – U.S. congressional Democrats agreed to rush $39.8 billion in additional aid for Ukraine, two sources familiar with the proposal said on Monday, easing fears a delayed vote could interrupt the flow of U.S. weapons to the Kyiv government.
The House of Representatives could pass the plan, which exceeds President Joe Biden’s request last month for $33 billion, as soon as Tuesday, and Senate leaders said they were also prepared to move quickly.
….
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Keep funding war and it will keep growing. I guess we (US) are willing to continue to destroy Ukraine, bleed Russia and degrade our economies.
The best ending would be a negotiated peace. The worst case, and it seems a lot of people want it, is direct conflict with Russia. Lend lease was our way into WW2 and we are doing it again!
How many people think Russia will lose rather than escalate? Could be nuclear.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt3
“The best ending would be a negotiated peace.”
———–
Sure, easy peasy. All Russia has to do is withdraw back to its borders from all of Ukraine, including Crimea and agree to use say 1/3 of its oil/gas revenues to rebuild Ukraine and compensate all the families who lost homes, jobs and loved ones an acceptable amount.
What do you think th chance of Putin accepting this plan would be? Zero?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
It would be even easier to drop just a small nuclear bomb on the Ukrainian forces and end the war. The US would not respond other than more sanctions as there is no way the US is going to sacrifice upwards of 100 million of it’s own citizens for Ukraine.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
You’re forgetting President Dementia-Head.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I’d wager you are wrong. That would make it even more important to neuter Russia once and for all.
josh
josh
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Sure, let’s spend more money we don’t have… In fact, let’s just give it away.
Oh wait, that’s what we’re doing.
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
1 year ago
Reply to  josh
God forbid our politicians could come up with a plan and pass a bill that actually reinvestments in Main St USA……and Don’t day build back better
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  LPCONGAS99
I guess you should choose whom you vote for better.
But if you did, then all I can assume is that not enough others agreed with the choice of candidate that you supported.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
I d never expected you to be one…..you ARE a fn idi ot that s obvious …so long boy ! ….moron

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