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War With the World: Trump Puts Tariffs on India, Considers Australia

“I have determined that India has not assured the United States that India will provide equitable and reasonable access to its markets,” Mr. Trump said on Friday.

Tariffs start June 5 as Trump Pressures India Over Open Markets.

Mr. Trump on Friday said India would be removed from the U.S.’s privileged-trading program called the Generalized System of Preferences on Wednesday. Under the decadeslong program meant for some developing economies, the U.S. had allowed India to avoid tariffs on certain exports to the U.S. in the interest of promoting tighter trade ties and development.

India, the U.S.’s ninth-largest trading partner, is a top beneficiary of the GSP program. Mr. Trump’s move will add tariffs of as much as 7% on Indian exports of goods like chemicals, auto parts and tableware to the U.S., which in 2018 accounted for more than 11%, or $6.3 billion, of India’s total exports of goods valued at $54.4 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service, a research agency for the U.S. Congress.

Spotlight Australia

Please consider Trump Administration Considered Tariffs on Australia.

Some of President Trump’s top trade advisers had urged the tariffs as a response to a surge of Australian aluminum flowing onto the American market over the past year. But officials at the Defense and State Departments told Mr. Trump the move would alienate a top ally and could come at significant cost to the United States.

The administration ultimately agreed not to take any action, at least temporarily.

The measure would open yet another front in a global trade war that has pitted the United States against allies like Canada, Mexico, Europe and Japan, and deepened divisions with countries like China. It would also be the end of a reprieve for the only country to be fully exempted from the start from steel and aluminum tariffs that Mr. Trump imposed last year.

The tariffs on Australia would have hit imports of aluminum, although measures that would have applied to other products had been discussed as well. Shipments of Australian aluminum to the United States have surged since last year, when Australia became one of the few countries not to face metal tariffs.

Unfair Competition

Trump wants to protect US steel and aluminum manufacturers from “unfair competition”.

How come the rest of the world, including Canada and Australia can produce steel and aluminum cheaper than the US?

Even if there was a nefarious answer to that question (there isn’t), the fact remains that far more US industries benefit from cheaper metals than are harmed by them.

Logically, no matter the reason, the US should welcome cheap steel and aluminum.

Chain Reaction

Trump put tariffs on steel and aluminum from Mexico, Canada, and China, so importers turned to Australia.

Aluminum imports from Australia rose by 45 percent from 2017 to 2018. They are up even more, by 350 percent, for the first three months of 2019, compared with the same period in 2018.

The same thing is happening across the board.

Tariffs on China drove imports from Vietnam, India, and other places.

For now, Australia is still a small supplier. Yet Trump is hopping mad.

Understanding Trade

I saw an interesting Tweet yesterday in which someone claimed “trade is a zero sum game”.

That is seriously wrong. Unfortunately, that is how Trump views things. Trump believes there is a winner and loser to every deal. The fact is both sides have to believe they gain, or there is no deal.

Here’s a simple example I gave someone other night in a discussion at karaoke.

Imagine an island with 8 people. Four are net makers and four are fishermen. The net makers make and mend nets, and perhaps gather coconuts in their spare time.

The net makers trade nets and coconuts for fish.

In the absence of trading nets for fish, the net makers would have to learn how to fish. The fisherman would have to learn now to make nets and plant and gather coconuts.

It’s much easier to become skilled at one or two things than dozens of things. In essence, this is what trade is all about: Everyone wins.

Better Deal

By insisting on getting a better deal than the other side, Trump risks a slowdown in trade.

Trump thinks this will bring jobs back to the US.

It won’t.

Steel and aluminum are particularly misguided tariffs because very few are employed in industries that produce steel. By a factor of 10 or more there are more US manufacturers who use steel and aluminum.

The US has some legitimate gripes, but tariffs never have, nor ever will, produce the results Trump hoes for.

Not Easy to Win

Instead of trade wars being easy to win, we see Trump is in a trade war with the world, with precisely zero victories.

Meanwhile, China Puts U.S. Soybean Buying on Hold as Tariff War Escalates.

No one wins trade wars. Upping the ante just makes for bigger losses all around.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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John212
John212
7 years ago

Mish the reason the us won’t say anything about aus is we have a huge deficit to us. I dont think australia has much to lose at all, if anything the us has gained alot more from australia with trade so won’t see him complain their.

Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
7 years ago

Hand up, who cannot see a 10^3 dimensional chess here, or is there another explanation?

Webej
Webej
7 years ago

Yes, the other explanation of this behavior is called “HandS up”

Mish
Mish
7 years ago

“Trump’s hypothesis, i.e., that removal of wage arbitrage will spur re-industrialization, is worth testing.”

It’s pure idiocy.
What you and Trump propose is for the US to be the highest cost producer.
It cannot possibly work

we_will_be_Ok
we_will_be_Ok
7 years ago
Reply to  Mish

I disagree, and a more articulate rebuttal of the hypothesis, something more insightful than calling it “idiocy” would be nice. I am sorry it is not self-evident to me that we should continue the path of self-destruction.

A historical perspective shows that US has resorted to tariffs all the time, except in the past couple of decades. Can someone also please articulate an alternative in which we remain prosperous and well-off?

we_will_be_Ok
we_will_be_Ok
7 years ago
Reply to  Mish

The ‘lowest cost producer’ in China is – right now – a fiction, an artifact of

a) dollar being the currency of international trade — everyone needs dollars; here’s wsj explanation how it works: “A Canadian lumber company sells boards to a French buyer. The buyer’s bank in France and the seller’s bank in Canada settle the payment, in dollars, via “correspondent banks” that have accounts at the Fed. The money is transferred seamlessly between the banks’ Fed accounts because their status as correspondent banks means they are seen as safe counterparties.”

b) IMF and private institutions lending in dollars — gotta have dollar reserves for when currency flows change (aka, you need to pay back all that money you borrowed in dollars) and you need to defend your currency from depreciation;

c) China, Korea, Vietnam & Co currency manipulation policies and political systems — Mr. Setser will argue that if China lets its currency to freely float, yuan will depreciate. And it will, but why? I think it is because Chinese will try to exchange all their yuan for dollars, because they are scared that communists will take their money away one day. When was it?, 2016, Chinese exchanged 1 trillion dollar worth of yuan for dollars (see Setser). China has now tough money exchange controls, people can exchange for dollars only this little, once in a while and even then the authorities may refuse to give you dollars. Do you know that Vietnam, the ‘hottest’ destination for outsourcing after China, is also communist? What is this ‘love’ with communist countries?

a, b and c are all policymakers decisions, have nothing do with “free” or “market’. This system, a through b, benefited the US (or some in the US, let’s not point fingers), but it no longer does! Chinese workers are NOT cheap any more, they only made/appear so, because it is good for China (or China believes so), and China is willing to collect US dollars for stuff.

A system in which country A buys things from country B for as little as possible in currency A and then sell these stuffs to its people for as much as it can charge CAN NOT exists for long, because people in county A can not earn enough money to buy things. The only solution is to keep creating money and distributing it to people A as welfare or debt. And so we have, 50% of all households don’t pay any taxes and are supported through welfare payments (child credit, earned tax credit, etc), the so-called middle class is in debt up to its ears. Country B (aka China) took currency A and then bought country A debt. A is deeper in debt, B has bigger and bigger reserves…. until country B no longer needs those reserves and, by this time, the garbage currency collapses… country A goes hot war against B and the planet called Earth dies…

we_will_be_Ok
we_will_be_Ok
7 years ago

“The young Republican Party, which had soared to influence in wartime, was closely associated with aggressive tariff policy.”

“We imagine the Gilded Age and that era to be this period of untrammeled free capitalism,” says University of Georgia historian Stephen Mihm, “but in fact tariffs remained completely central to American economic policy.”

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Greggg
Greggg
7 years ago

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
7 years ago

Comparative advantage of trade is impossible without a gold standard to balance trade. President Trump has the wisdom to balance trade.

Mike Deadmonton
Mike Deadmonton
7 years ago

Feed a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Feed the man to the fishes and he ain’t your problem anymore. Now, who is Trump feeding to the fishes?

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
7 years ago

Any corporation that does not reshore manufacturing gets fed to the fishes. Three companies got told emphatically and directly to reshore. GM, Ford, and Apple are fish bait.

Carlos_
Carlos_
7 years ago
Reply to  Menaquinone

So much ignorance it is just to funny. Loaded cost of a autoworker in Mexico is around $4 an hour in the USA about $31. No tariff will magically make the US competitive on anything dependent of manual labor. What will happen is that automakers will wait Trump out just like China. Moreover, they will layoff people in the US

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
7 years ago
Reply to  Carlos_

Deflation can devalue American wages to competitive world market rates for the unskilled we have in abundance.

There is no upper limit to tariffs, unless you count embargo as the limit.

Carlos_
Carlos_
7 years ago
Reply to  Menaquinone

Yes I will trust economics from a lets bring coal back president. You know the serial bankruptcy genius. Oh sorry meant to say very stable genius

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
7 years ago
Reply to  Carlos_

President Trump has over a hundred successful businesses. Two or three went into bankruptcy. He has an incredible success rate.

Cheap energy, cheap labor, capital investment, and opportunity to apply creative solutions, are the foundation of wealth creation. Coal is the most economical energy sans bureaucrats.

Carlos_
Carlos_
7 years ago
Reply to  Menaquinone

Cheap energy, cheap labor, capital investment, and opportunity to apply creative solutions, are the foundation of wealth creation.

Well wealth creation for who? The ones you describe as cheap labor? You are aware that you just describe China. Maybe you should consider moving there?

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
7 years ago
Reply to  Carlos_

I should have added rule of law, property rights, security, low taxes, and a sound stable currency.

To answer your question those who create wealth deserve the wealth they create. Those without ability to aspire nor motivation deserve the poverty they create for themselves.

mike09
mike09
7 years ago
Reply to  Menaquinone

Sound stable currency? lol

Webej
Webej
7 years ago
Reply to  Menaquinone

Coal is not cheap energy, that is what is driving its demise. If you want cheap labor, cheap energy, low taxes and little government, go to Mozambique. Wealthy countries are marked by a wealthy public sector which lowers the costs of doing business. Every wealthy country without fail has elaborate transit, communication, energy, and educational infrastructure as well as effective public services.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
7 years ago

I believe all of this is a predicate to rebuild America from the inside out. A country that relies on too many imports is a country that cannot survive.

Curious-Cat
Curious-Cat
7 years ago

How long will that take and what do we do in the interim?

KidHorn
KidHorn
7 years ago

I think a lot of this is due to Trump figuring out he can apply tariffs and the democrats are powerless to prevent it. This is similar to a teenager who’s not allowed to do anything suddenly finding themselves on a college campus with no parental control. They get drunk until they throw up and pierce their tongues.

JonSellers
JonSellers
7 years ago

I take issue with Mish’s example. I think a better example is the fisherman begin teaching their children how to fish, make nets, and gather coconuts, while still trading fish to the other net and coconut gatherers. Because the fisherman create an oversupply of fish, the net makers don’t teach their children anything but net making and coconut gathering. The fishermen’s children eventually get good enough at net making and coconut gathering. But being children, their father’s pay them children’s wages. Now the net makers are scrambling to cut their standard of living to that of children to be competitive.

Now the children of the fishermen may not be quite as good at net making and coconut gathering as the originals, but their father’s are willing to make up the difference to ensure their futures. In the meantime, the children of the net makers and coconut gatherers have no skills and are forced to become baristas and Uber drivers.

Oh and Australians and Canadians can’t make aluminum any cheaper than American companies. Alcoa places it’s plants along the subsidized TVA production systems for cheap energy. But the purpose of the tariffs is to allow American aluminum manufacturers to jack up the price of their product. Getting global prices from Canadian and Aussie producers is unfair because American shareholder’s don’t get as much value.

Webej
Webej
7 years ago
Reply to  JonSellers

It’s not just about cheap. Canada exports steel to the US but it also imports steel from the US. Both are each other’s the biggest export market. Same applies more or less to aluminum, and many other products. If you subtract crude oil exports, Canada has a large trade deficit (goods) with the USA. If you look at the value of goods AND services, the trade balance between the US and Canada or the EU are much more balanced (US exports more services which generally are higher up the value chain).

Hoi Polloi
Hoi Polloi
7 years ago

This is not simply about leveling the trade deficit with China, it is now an existential struggle between two fundamentally different systems. It is unavoidable. Chinese telecom companies cannot be allowed to build and operate the free world’s IT infrastructure. Our position would be more favorable if we had gotten the wake up call 10 years ago. Better late than never.

Curious-Cat
Curious-Cat
7 years ago
Reply to  Hoi Polloi

It’s been suggested the greatest risk to US is that Huawei would not agree to US demands to spy on its own citizens.

Webej
Webej
7 years ago
Reply to  Hoi Polloi

Everything the US says about threats (hybrid warfare, spying, tapping submarine data cables, back doors, weaponized malware, troll farms) are in fact projections of what they are themselves doing. It’s all about the splinter in the other’s eye and the beam in your own. Reading about the US fear that Huawei realizing underwater optical fibres and the possibility of using its nuclear subs to tap into this infrastructure is tantamount to a confession that this is what the US is already doing/thinking about doing.

arvi
arvi
7 years ago

I hope the world gets of the Dollar standard, end the dollar’s oil monopoly and let Americans earn their wealth like the rest of us. A proper dumping of US dollars will teach these idiots we don’t need their useless paper currency.

RonJ
RonJ
7 years ago
Reply to  arvi

The dollar is the world’s premier reserve currency, so it isn’t useless.

No currency has been a permanent premier reserve currency, thus the dollar will not be, either. Neither has gold been a permanent standard, either. Nothing is permanent, when everything moves in cycles.

JonSellers
JonSellers
7 years ago
Reply to  arvi

The United States works very hard to ensure that much of the rest of the world is deeply indebted to American banks at some level (government, business, individuals). Until that debt is resolved, dollars will always be necessary.

Webej
Webej
7 years ago

The only reason others can produce anything more cheaply than Americans (who have the largest market scale!) is that they are cheating by taking dollars out of America’s piggy back and are using American money to subsidize production. And they ship it to America with cheap oil subsidized by America’s military keeping (dis)order. And they leverage our internet!

It is unimaginable that there are net-makers better than Americans. Just look at the average educational performance and how hard we work.

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
7 years ago
Reply to  Webej

American minimum wage and union scale wages set beyond the value of unskilled labor also explain why American production is expensive. Inflation can cure minimum wage by devaluing minimum wage. Tariffs do that.

Webej
Webej
7 years ago
Reply to  Menaquinone

Actually, the costs of health care, higher education, and military spending are so exorbitant (relative to other advanced economies) that they function as a huge tax on the cost structure. Note that all three are (government) protected rackets, which could easily be disciplined into something more efficient (by market or other forces), but the will is absent in the political class: they would rather bloviate about freedom but that is purely rhetoric.

Stuki
Stuki
7 years ago
Reply to  Webej

🙂

HubbaBuba2
HubbaBuba2
7 years ago

You asked how Canada can produce aluminum cheaper than the US. It’s b/e they’re blessed with plenty of very cheap hydropower and aluminum takes a lot of it to produce (from bauxite).

Harbour
Harbour
7 years ago

The problem with free trade is that our standard of living is destroyed as countries with a lower standard of living take all the jobs BECAUSE we are off the gold standard. There is no balancing mechanism for the trade imbalances created. Obviously it’s beneficial for manufacturers is poor countries to move the plants to those countries but the loss of jobs here undermines the market for those goods. Decades later the US has minimal manufacturing, service jobs don’t pay the same AND inflation (theft) has destroyed the standard of living. Now Trump thinks he can solves but he’s pushing on a string and going against the realty of what was created over decades. I don’t fault him for trying but the only real solution is a major correction, a lot of pain, a purge of the elite political class and a return to real money.

RonJ
RonJ
7 years ago
Reply to  Harbour

On, off, on, off. That is how the gold standard operates. It is a cycle.

No Russian 5 year plan ever worked. Every so often a 10 year plan to balance the U.S. budget is bandied about. The budget never winds up balanced. Something always comes up to blow out the budget.

A gold standard is a peg and eventually a peg becomes inconvenient, as cycles push against the peg, eventually breaking it. Eventually the cycle reaches the other extreme and a gold standard is called for again, as an opposite extreme has been reached.

Runner Dan
Runner Dan
7 years ago
Reply to  Harbour

“The problem with free trade is that our standard of living is destroyed as countries with a lower standard of living take all the jobs BECAUSE we are off the gold standard.”

Not true! Our standard of living is better than it was 25 years ago thanks mostly to technological developments (typically invented here) that subsequently get mass produced using cheap labor (typically overseas). The problem in our country occurs because of sectors that are NOT subject to global forces (i.e., healthcare, higher education, and housing) that claim way more wealth from its citizens than they should. Getting the government out of the marketplace (i.e., eliminating the myriad of subsidies and artificial moats) along with, as you mentioned, a gold standard, would “correct the balance” and restore the wealth back to people who actually create it.

flubber
flubber
7 years ago
Reply to  Runner Dan

Runner Dan, I pretty much agree with what you have said. The only thing I would like clarification on is with the regards to our standard of living improving in the past 25 years. Is there a formula that compares debt vs. standard of living? For instance, is my neighbor’s standard of living better because he bought a new $50,000 pick-up truck on credit? I would like to know if debt factors into our living standards. No doubt our endless foreign wars have been a huge drain on our country.

Runner Dan
Runner Dan
7 years ago
Reply to  flubber

“Is there a formula that compares debt vs. standard of living?”

No, not that I’m aware of nor do I believe the two should be correlated (contrary to those who make a living peddling debt). For example, the credit environment did not inspire the invention of smart phones, all the apps that go on it (life is so much easier because of Waze and Uber/Lyft!), Youtube (think of all the knowledge transfer happening there – for free!), etc.

Your neighbor’s standard of living certainly went up when he got the more reliable transportation – for sure! However, would you have loaned your neighbor that $50,000 if you had the extra money and were looking for an investment? If it was your own money at risk, you would make sure you got it back with a profit (i.e., interest) to represent your risk. Now what would happen if you and like-minded private lenders decided your neighbor and his ilk who make up the majority of vehicle purchasers were NOT worth the risk, so they couldn’t get vehicle loans! Well, vehicle prices would have to decrease until you were satisfied they were worth the risk. Vehicle prices would become “affordable” (the horror!).

The problem these days is that the government/central bank always steps in to either artificially inflate prices by “guaranteeing” the risk of a loan (or direct subsidies) or bailing out foolish lending wholesale (consider the nearly 2 Trillion in mortgage backed securities owned by the Fed). So, we have essentially became a nation where you pay full price if “you can afford it” and if you can’t, don’t worry, the government/central bank will help you out, to keep the charade going – all to the benefit of a few sectors: healthcare, higher education, and housing. And probably the automotive industry too, although I’m not as familiar with that sector’s lending shenanigans.

Really, “progress” or the “success” of an administration should be viewed as the inverse of the consumer debt curve. The less people are in debt, the better for society. Technological advances will continue apace, regardless.

MaxBnb
MaxBnb
7 years ago
Reply to  Harbour

problem is you do not have free trade –since 1914 — it is managed trade.

trade always balance
inflation is done by your government

RonJ
RonJ
7 years ago

Ii think that what is being missed is that we are at an inflection point. In 1980 the inflation rate reached an inflection point.

Some 50,000 American factories have closed. Push eventually comes to shove.

Zero Hedge Headline: “We’re In A New Game”: Wall Street Luminaries Warn Trade War Could Drag On For Decades

lol
lol
7 years ago

Everytime I go to the store (any store)prices are higher ,prices are literally rising daily.One two punch of soaring inflation/shrinkflation/Chinese crapifacation and now tariffs on all that shoddy overpriced Chinese /Mexican junk!

ksdude
ksdude
7 years ago
Reply to  lol

Should do wonders for all the mechanical supplies I go thru, i’m sure.

ksdude
ksdude
7 years ago

No problem, esp if they get Trump impeached. Then we can go straight to a Bernie Sanders, etc. LOL im ready to move.

Stuki
Stuki
7 years ago

“I have determined….”

Progressivism in a nutshell: Some privileged idiot running around “determining” things, and who then posses the asymmetric firepower to force his childish “determinings” down others’ throats.

Augustthegreat
Augustthegreat
7 years ago
Reply to  Stuki

The Emperor of the world!

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