We know the answer already, China.
To the detriment of the US and Canada, China is the big winner in Trump’s trade war with Canada.
Please consider the Real Winner of the Trade War with Canada by Chad Bown.
The keenest observer of the all-out trade war between the United States and Canada is surely President Xi Jinping of China. If Washington doesn’t change course, he’s probably going to be its winner, too.
Mr. Xi already has monopoly power over components that are vital to hundreds of thousands of American and Canadian jobs. His April 2025 restrictions on rare-earth magnets temporarily shut down a Ford Explorer plant in Chicago. In Ontario later that year, Honda briefly reduced and suspended production of Civics and CR-Vs after he closed off access to semiconductors, which disrupted parts supply.
These sorts of attacks and those sorts of vulnerabilities should bring allies together. In a normal world, Washington and Ottawa would be laser focused on how much and how quickly they could manufacture together to prevent that kind of Chinese economic coercion.
Instead, President Trump has framed his tussle with Canada as a fight over how much manufacturing the country should be prepared to yield to the United States. And Mr. Trump wants almost all of it.
Ottawa rebuffed Mr. Trump’s latest offer in part because it retained too many of his import tariffs on Canadian cars, heavy trucks, steel and aluminum. With tariffs that high, Americans will eventually stop buying Canadian-assembled vehicles, and Detroit will rework its supply chains to exclude Canadian parts. Cars and parts once moved seamlessly across the U.S.-Canada border between suppliers and buyers, much as they did over the U.S.-Mexico border.
Being shut out of the market next door will devastate the Canadian auto industry. Canada is not close enough to Asia or Europe to survive as part of their supply chains.
We know what will probably happen next based on what took place in Australia after its automakers disappeared. By 2017, Toyota, General Motors and Ford closed their last Australian plants and caved to economic reality: The Australian market was too small and too remote to support the scale needed for globally competitive manufacturing.
Australians at first imported cars from manufacturing hubs across Japan, Korea, Thailand, Europe and the United States. Less than 10 years later, Australia looks very different. Nearly one in three new cars bought in Australia in the first half of 2026 was made in China, up from less than one in 250 back in 2017. (Only one in 50 Australian purchases in the first five months of 2026 was made in the United States.)
Mr. Trump should expect Canadian consumers to go the same route. In January, Mr. Carney announced Canada would allow 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles to be sold in the country — less than 3 percent of new car sales — and would slowly increase that number. Any decision to further open the Canadian market would probably lead to a Chinese import surge.
Why is pure Econ 101. Buying higher-cost cars from the United States is easier to justify politically when there are offsetting benefits to the national economy, such as assembly jobs, profits to domestic parts suppliers and communities built around steel or aluminum plants. If local manufacturing disappears, so will the reasons for Canadians to accept paying higher prices.
Losing Canadian customers to China would be terrible for America for two reasons.
First, the total number of buyers matters for sectors such as automobiles, which have high fixed costs and substantial barriers to new entrants. Having more consumers means companies can learn how to lower costs and offer reduced prices to get even more customers. Losing Canadian car buyers will be one more step toward ceding the global automotive industry to China.
What’s Going to Happen
Instead of working with Canada to counter China hold on rare earth elements, Trump’s tariffs will increase the price of cars in the US, cause Canadians to stop buying US cars, and strengthen Canada’s ties to China.
This is happening already.
And the damage does not stop with car parts.
Toilet Paper
Aluminum
Hey, Let’s Drag India Into the Trade Wars
Electricity on Deck
Iowa Farmers
Canada Fact and Fiction
This is 100 percent a Trump-made problem.
Fact Check on Trump’s Claim “Canada Ripped Us Off”
Trump keeps making nonsensical claims.
Here’s a rebuttal: Fact Check on Trump’s Claim “Canada Ripped Us Off”. What’s the Real Story?
“They sign agreements and then walk away from them. They make promises and then break them. They are completely non-agreement capable.”
“Deception lies at the foundation of Western diplomacy. And it still does”
-Lavrov
Ironic that, not so long ago, the liberals and SJW were renaming things to honor their heroes and banish the names of those they abhor. Now we see Trump doing the same thing, and cheered on by the people that made fun of all that stuff when the “other side” was doing it.
Canada and US trade war – – – China win
EU and US trade war – – – – – – -China win
Iran and US war – – – – – – – – – – China win
Russia and Ukraine war – – – – -China win
Trump global trade war – – – – – China win
Economic sanction agains Russia – China win
Gaza war – – – – – – – – – – – – – – -China win
Afghanistan war – – – – – – – – – – China win
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? US and West – too stupid losers.
Most of all, the most important thing is –
The Australian Strategic Policy Institute reports that China is the global research leader in 69 out of 74 critical and emerging technology domains.
China is leading in EVs, Green technology and many other high techs.
Yes, that is troublesome for –
– We know the answer already, China. > If they wish to cozy up to an adversary, so be it. They will pay the price down the road, as they get cut out of the American market, and are then Controlled by the Chinese. Strange Country Leaders in Canada. They seem to shoot themselves in the foot a lot, and make choices ultimately negative to their own Country. It’s as if they play the Trump Game, but with little to no leverage… A losing approach.
– Mr. Xi has monopoly power over components that are vital to hundreds of thousands of American and Canadian jobs. > This is why Greenland came up awhile back. Trump knew it was going nowhere, but to assure it remained under Greenlands Control, and no shenanigans would occur, as things were getting sketchy and unpredictable. He was wise to do so, it would appear.
– Being shut out of the market next door will devastate the Canadian auto industry. Canada is not close enough to Asia or Europe to survive as part of their supply chains. > Canada’s eco imo is in shambles, and getting worse by the day. This will hurt workers, families, and the Country Overall, in a very big, and sad way, as it is/was so unnecessary.
– First, the total number of buyers matters for sectors such as automobiles, which have high fixed costs and substantial barriers to new entrants. Having more consumers means companies can learn how to lower costs and offer reduced prices to get even more customers. Losing Canadian car buyers will be one more step toward ceding the global automotive industry to China. > I am shocked America (CA. Mostly I think?) is and can buy Chinese Automobiles.
>> This tells / shows me, that at some point, America will have to dismantle Unions, or they will simply shut down on their own. We pay to much for workers in these jobs, and it removes us from the list to,purchase from in many Countries, as they simply can’t afford our expected cost to buy.Americans are feeling the pinch as well to buying at Union Cost for various things that are overpriced to the r3st of the World. We must lose this piece of our working engine, before it wipes us all out from being competitive as a Country, and to Ourselves IMO!
– Can we stop with the TP Scare…
Sources of Toilet Paper
Toilet paper is produced in various countries around the world, not just Canada. Here are some key sources:
Major Producing Countries
Country Annual Output (Metric Tons) Key Notes
China ~680,000 Largest producer and exporter globally.
United States ~370,000 Primarily serves domestic demand.
India ~260,000 Rapidly growing market with increasing production.
Japan ~230,000 Known for high-quality manufacturing.
Germany ~180,000 Major European producer and exporter.
Brazil ~150,000 Leading producer in South America.
Other Notable Suppliers
Mexico: A significant supplier of toilet paper to the U.S. market.
Indonesia: Contributes to the global supply.
Vietnam and Malaysia: Smaller but notable producers.
Conclusion
In summary, while Canada is a key supplier of toilet paper, it is far from the only source. The global market includes major producers like China, the United States, and several others, ensuring a diverse supply chain for this essential product.
Aluminum is less available, but other Countries produce it like others produce TP, and India is a key player, and we have cozied up to them of late, so maybe that and other materials India can supply, will be on a big list, as Canada is cut off, if they want to be.
Global Aluminum Production
Aluminum is produced in several countries around the world, not just Canada. Here are some of the key producers:
Top Aluminum Producing Countries
Rank Country Production (2022) Key Features
1 China 40+ million tons Largest producer; mainly coal-powered
2 India 4.1 million tons Significant coal-powered production
3 Russia 4.0 million tons Uses hydroelectricity; RUSAL is a major company
4 Canada 3.0 million tons Low carbon footprint; relies on hydropower
Additional Information
China: Dominates global production, supplying aluminum for various industries including automotive and construction.
India: Has a growing aluminum sector, driven by demand in power and construction.
Russia: Notable for its use of renewable energy in aluminum production, contributing to a lower carbon footprint compared to other countries.
Aluminum is a versatile metal used in many applications, and sourcing it from multiple countries helps meet global demand efficiently.
– We know the answer already, China. > If they wish to cozy up to an adversary, so be it. They will pay the price down the road, as they get cut out of the American market, and are then Controlled by the Chinese. Strange Country Leaders in Canada. They seem to shoot themselves in the foot a lot, and make choices ultimately negative to their own Country. It’s as if they play the Trump Game, but with little to no leverage… A losing approach.
– Mr. Xi has monopoly power over components that are vital to hundreds of thousands of American and Canadian jobs. > This is why Greenland came up awhile back. Trump knew it was going nowhere, but to assure it remained under Greenlands Control, and no shenanigans would occur, as things were getting sketchy and unpredictable. He was wise to do so, it would appear.
– Being shut out of the market next door will devastate the Canadian auto industry. Canada is not close enough to Asia or Europe to survive as part of their supply chains. > Canada’s eco imo is in shambles, and getting worse by the day. This will hurt workers, families, and the Country Overall, in a very big, and sad way, as it is/was so unnecessary.
– First, the total number of buyers matters for sectors such as automobiles, which have high fixed costs and substantial barriers to new entrants. Having more consumers means companies can learn how to lower costs and offer reduced prices to get even more customers. Losing Canadian car buyers will be one more step toward ceding the global automotive industry to China. > I am shocked America (CA. Mostly I think?) is and can buy Chinese Automobiles.
>> This tells / shows me, that at some point, America will have to dismantle Unions, or they will simply shut down on their own. We pay to much for workers in these jobs, and it removes us from the list to,purchase from in many Countries, as they simply can’t afford our expected cost to buy.Americans are feeling the pinch as well to buying at Union Cost for various things that are overpriced to the r3st of the World. We must lose this piece of our working engine, before it wipes us all out from being competitive as a Country, and to Ourselves IMO!
– Can we stop with the TP Scare…
Sources of Toilet Paper
Toilet paper is produced in various countries around the world, not just Canada. Here are some key sources:
Major Producing Countries
Country Annual Output (Metric Tons) Key Notes
China ~680,000 Largest producer and exporter globally.
United States ~370,000 Primarily serves domestic demand.
India ~260,000 Rapidly growing market with increasing production.
Japan ~230,000 Known for high-quality manufacturing.
Germany ~180,000 Major European producer and exporter.
Brazil ~150,000 Leading producer in South America.
Other Notable Suppliers
Mexico: A significant supplier of toilet paper to the U.S. market.
Indonesia: Contributes to the global supply.
Vietnam and Malaysia: Smaller but notable producers.
Conclusion
In summary, while Canada is a key supplier of toilet paper, it is far from the only source. The global market includes major producers like China, the United States, and several others, ensuring a diverse supply chain for this essential product.
Aluminum is less available, but other Countries produce it like others produce TP, and India is a key player, and we have cozied up to them of late, so maybe that and other materials India can supply, will be on a big list, as Canada is cut off, if they want to be.
Global Aluminum Production
Aluminum is produced in several countries around the world, not just Canada. Here are some of the key producers:
Top Aluminum Producing Countries
Rank Country Production (2022) Key Features
1 China 40+ million tons Largest producer; mainly coal-powered
2 India (again) 4.1 million tons Significant coal-powered production
3 Russia 4.0 million tons Uses hydroelectricity; RUSAL is a major company
4 Canada 3.0 million tons Low carbon footprint; relies on hydropower
> I view these as issues, but potentially minor in nature, and we are OR should be addressing this situation with solutions.
You need to see psychiatrist. Really.
The only solution to this is to wait out of the rest of DT’s term. History teaches that the only approach to a bully is to stand up to him. Respect to Carney and Canada .. shame on you America
Trump hates people who call him a bully, but really loves North Korea, a totalitarian that he can only admire from afar.
The Canadians have the chance to do the funniest thing right now and pass an act renaming it to Lake Epstein for the time the orange .pdf is running the circus.
I like the way you think.
Heard a rumor Canada is going rename their larger half of the Lake Ontario after E. Jean Carroll.
Lake E. Jean Carroll
Canada just lost Lake Ontario… That’ll show them when they open Google Maps!
/s
I doubt Google will go along with this one. Old Corn Pop doesn’t have even a tenth of the gravitas he had when they pulled that Gulf of America kiss-the-ring crap. I’ll be surprised if they go along with it anyway.
Google went along with renaming the Gulf of Mexico for Usonians… So many government contracts…
Only because they knew Mexico wouldn’t slap them for it. Canada is pissed and can probably press that issue a lot further if they choose.
Remember, Canada didn’t cut off supplies of NBSK pulp yet. Now would be the PERFECT time, bwahahaha! Americans could be wiping their butts with corn cobs by election day in November. Scratchy!
I think it makes more sense to slow roll it to bait Trump into dumber and dumber moves. It’s less about economic pain and more about ensuring Trump and the GOP pay for this come November.
Official now at the USGS
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/117169587997925219
I’m sure the Chinese politburo is high-fiving every Trump headline.
Trump- the best president China, Russia and North Korea ever had
I don’t know who will win what but I do know who the suckers and losers are and that’s everyday Americans.
Lower gas prices?
Lower food prices?
Lower housing prices?
No more wars?
Epstein files?
Suckers and losers….and you’re gonna keep paying through the nose.
Do worry, Trump, Walrus, GOP, and democrats will find a way to make things even worse.™
one of the greatest traders of all time,explains how folks love to be losers.
Ed Seykota‘s famous quote—“Win or lose, everybody gets what they want out of the market. Some people seem to like to lose, so they win by losing money”—means that subconscious psychological desires often override the conscious goal of making a profit.
Mish, who’s monitoring the board, Lee Elia?
Trump’s signing the death warrant for the US auto industry.
Michigan voters did that 2.5 years ago.
The winners are those who favor the free flow of trade among countries without encumbrances. In this case, Canada and China and the EU and the Mercosur. Pretty much the rest of the world, but for the US.
Canada will rue the day they choose to do any such action. They will lose in so many ways, and probably not recover for decades. Canada is crazy to even suggest such an action. They best hope Trump doesn’t pull the plug on the, as a result. Nothing Canada has, we can’t get elsewhere, but most of what America has, Canada will have to do without, or pay way, way more money for. This move would crush Canada short term, and long term perhaps, as well. Very foolish of them, so I highly doubt it’s anything more than bluster as usual… they will shut up soon enough, as they see what will happen to them, and it may happen anyway now, because they were stupid enough to entertain the topic. Good luck Canada if you do it, or if Trump simply makes you do so. A major loss for your Country and its people. They do know this, but are not grounded enough yet to realize the implication for such actions…
“rue the day”😂😂😂
What the fuck do you think this is, a super hero movie?
Nope, but a poor decision for sure. Where do you think they will get products from? Much is piped or immediate from set ups in place for decades. That would disappear, and they would have to import chia ships, boats, planes, etc. longer to get, if available. Much, much more expensive to purchase if available to get. Etc. A massive uprooting of how they get many products today. They are not in a very sound financial situation, such as the US. And may not be able to do so…
You saying the US is in a “very sound financial situation”????!!!! Why didn’t you say that at the start? Would have stopped reading your post right then.
Compared to Canada, absolutely! Are you that Naive? Canada is in an absolute mess, and falling behind faster and faster with there poor decisions. They don’t have anything close to what America has.
Stop reading my post, but do so because you don’t want to read and understand what’s happening, and not because you don’t like hearing the truth.
all this bullshit will go away as soon as the Cult leader leaves office in 2029 january. his cult will turn into a religion when old fat dumbfuck donald croaks in a decade or so……….fat dumb welfare rednecks in the mountains taking vows of not silence, but Yelling. for a century to come. will be like a petting zoo to view retards.
Doesn’t matter. The damage done is permanent. The world knows the US is one election away from putting another cult leader into the White House.
that is true. but the empire is crumbling. the world doesn’t fear us anymore. 9.11.01 was the big change. 25 years later we are weaklings who always lose on battlefields and run by morons and maniacs. it’s a great thing when evil empires crumble. imho
Would to God that you prove correct.
– it’s a great thing when evil empires crumble. imho
> It is indeed, but Iran has not yet crumbled, so don’t get ahead of your skis…
They are prob carving their graven images right now, ahead of the day when their master returns to the golf course.
ha ha ha. i have been penciling and painting a few comical things since 2015 when trump came on the political scene. stuff like trump on a swing with putin pushing it and little mike pence on a dog leash………fun shit.
Taco will Taco next Tuesday.
Canada can get anything it needs cheaper from China. And higher quality too.
They have pipelines direct to Canada? I didn’t know that. Are you sure? Cost would sky rocket otherwise.
Good thing we have many connections with Canada, and going both ways. Inexpensive means of delivery as well.
The British Empire called, they want their global collapse back.
i witnessed the USSR collapse in the 1990s. great opportunities and fun times over there. the spanish and british and portuguese and dutch all have remnants in the new world. when evil empires collapse, humanity is better off. pax dumbfuckistan is no different.
you know nothing about Canada. you are an american idiot
good luck with no fertilizer for you monsanto crops that cannot grow without it toilet paper is 3 dollars a roll.
Potash comes primarily from geologic deposits, with Canada being the largest producer. In the U.S., potash is mostly imported, but there are domestic reserves, particularly in New Mexico and Utah, and a new mine in Michigan is set to begin operations soon.
Who’s worried? I can buy all the Potash I want right down the street tomorrow, or next week. Do you garden? Where do you get your fertilizer? They should Cary it, and many other forms of fertilizer. No bans, no issues yet, we are self sufficient to a point, but can get more elsewhere as well. Will cost more for a bit, but iron out after await with new contracts signed etc.
Do you think big farms buy their potash at Ace? Do you think supplies run out overnight? Jesus Stu I knew you weren’t a sharp knife but I’m starting to think you’re a doorstop.
My point was it’s widely available. Canada is not the only game in town, and I think they will continue to sell it to us anyway, if we want it from them. They need money coming in as a country right now, and will sell to all buyers that they can find, and buy from all sellers that have affordable prices for them.
Get your hand off it Stu
A lot of the products from Canada would result in _delayed_ price inflation in the US but *toilet paper* is not stored in any significant quantity (as we learned during covid) and prices will move almost immediately, resulting in sticker shock right before the US election. Politically it’s a killer.
Napkins work just fine…
And what might napkins be made of, idiot?
it’s like he’s a retard who lives in a group home and we have to call him special needs. it’s 21st century
Not made from the same at all, and actually not even close to it. Totally different blend of materials for obvious purposes…
WHO THE FUCK uses TP in 2026, on one’s undercarriage. get a japanese/smart toilet you dumbfuck.
I can buy a shi# load of TP for those thousands of dollars! I have self cleaning toilets, so it’s not an issue for me to be honest.
Usonia delenda est.
Trump has immune disorder: he has to have an enemy and attack someone. Autoimmune when the impact falls back on us. China stood him down, so he had to go after someone. Without an enemy, has idiot backers would not be placated and distracted, and would see the emperor has no clothes. His pretenses at constructing things is a sham.
Agreed. My neighbor tried accusing me of hating America because I said “Nationalism had never ended well for anyone”
retarded neighbors. i love mine. i just give them the nazi salute, the Roman salute everytime i see them. drives them crazy. it’s delightfully funny. amerikans are such little pussies.
toilet paper will win: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/26/paper-product-toilet-paper-tariffs-us-canada
It may have taken a total douche to teach Usonians about toilet douches.
For sure said China in my head before even clicking to navigate here.
Thank you taco for being totally consistent with your ill-fated ideas and policies. We will never forget you (but not in the manner that you wish).
Lutnick.
(Final answer.)
Nutlick. Fixed it.
old howie lutnick will be the one who stabs old donald in the back if and when he has to save his own skin. i already bet a few pals of mine on that. i love that little obnoxious cut throat. so many old pals took swan dives from 100 plus story windows of cantor offices 25 years ago come sep 11
Including his brother, I heard.
correct. he stole cantor from the widow of the founder. he’s a great amerikan.
steven fucking project 2025 miller that is the asshole we should be talking about but the moleter and thief never heard of projeuct 2025
Both nations will suffer. If Canada suffers more than the US, Trump will call it a win, even though the whole affair was avoidable.
>> If X, Trump will call it a win
Substitute anything for X.
The whole affair is completely made up, on the US side. To understand what’s going on, it helps to watch Trump’s response to a reporter’s question on January 7, 2025. All of the nonsense and idiocy that we’ve seen stems from this evil.
https://youtu.be/oR_i0o4XgS8?si=gjj7VcyrlWAX1QZv
If I were Canadian, I think I would go to almost any length to avoid buying American made products.
Yes we are
Every day I try a little bit harder than the previous day to do exactly that! The trouble is, the US economy is too big. Boycotting US products works very slowly and inefficiently at changing the attitude of US politicians. That’s why I’m promoting the idea of export bans or very high export taxes on the Canadian imports that the US can’t do without and that are also very difficult to substitute other goods or suppliers for.
A perfect example of such a product is NBSK pulp, which is essential to make useable toilet paper and Canada basically has a stranglehold on the US supply. A severe shortage of toilet paper in the US would get the attention of US politicians faster than practically anything else, wouldn’t you agree?
I hope the Canadian PM or his advisors have a list of such Canadian exports at the ready. But it seems that at this point the Canadians are still trying to keep the trade war more like a gentleman’s sport and focus its effects on the US midterm elections. But if that fails as I expect, we could see export bans/taxes (like I’m promoting) unleashed after the elections. I hope you don’t get caught in the crossfire if this happens!
Exactly! Canada has much more to lose however, as they will pay a whole lot more for many products than they do now. If they can get them still, and afford them still as well…
I don’t think Canada is going to suffer as much as the US simply because they started migrating away from American trade 6 months ago.
They have been talking to China and EU for quite some time.
Trump is only now aware of the supply problem he’s created but he isn’t convinced it’s a problem nor of his doing.
While Canada may suffer in the short term, for countries on the side of freer trade always recover, the US will suffer in the long term, as do all the countries hindering trade.
I agree.
This will not end well for Canada. There is already mounting pressure from front line workers(auto and others) who fear huge job losses. A Canadian recession is likely and if things get bad enough Trump will be able to buy Canada on the cheap.
Of course Canada will fold before things get too bad. Even the NYT gives Canada little hope. “Because Canada’s economy is about one-twelfth the size of the US economy, it’s retaliatory tariffs will have the effect of a pea shooter in a gun battle”.
And yet, nobody gave Iran any hope against the US either.
Extremely different situation…
Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s not always about size but how you use it. Did anyone tell you that before?
So you and Trump have something in common😂😂😂
No because Trump has had the biggest stick in the world and so far all he’s done is whack himself in the face with it. Guess that’s one way to use it.
“and if things get bad enough Trump will be able to buy Canada on the cheap.”
Isn’t that is the whole point of the economic warfare being waged on us: Fortress North America without too much blood spilled.
You are kinda on the right track. Canada has always been so pleasant that it is taken by American politicians as a dependent colony and subject to the winds of whim. Thinking that Canada would sign a trade deal that includes the US having a veto over Canada later signing trade deals with other countries (like the EU and India) is a whim without a chance in Hell. The US is completely dependent on Canada for multiple basic necessities of military and civilian life. If they want to balance the trade books – the original complaint by Trump – then stop buying Canadian oil and get it from Venezuela. We have lots of option. Support the socialist regimes instead. It’s your money.
The US signed a free trade deal with Canada. Then they placed arbitrary 25% and 50% tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum (which they cannot made for twice the price due to eco-loons running up the cost of energy). So Canada should just sit and take it? They responded in kind (of course). Trump said, “How dare they respond in kind?? More tariffs for daring to respond!”. Carney said, “Dollar for dollar, whatever the US does.”
Listen to the US negotiator interviewed on the CBC last night: “Only Canada and China dared to respond with tariffs! Do you think the USA will just sit there are take it?” Yeah you dumb cluck! What did you think they would do? Roll over? You started this and now the gander is protesting the same treatment given to the goose. Shame.
This concept of “How dare you respond to our provocation”, repeated on TV by their Ambassador, their Secretary and that lying weasel of a negotiator, is beyond comical. If the US team doesn’t get its act together South Park will put out a episode on Trump and his team that will make the Harry and Markle episodes look like kid glove treatment. Mocked for their hypocrisy and self-promotion, they are dying a public relations death as they scuttle back to the UK with a new episode about to drop this week.
South Park will no doubt mention the Gordie Howe bridge. What’s the point of signing a contract with people who won’t follow the terms? It is contract written on water. Trump is bragging that he bullied Mexico into a “better agreement”. Cool. Good for you. Canada is a helluva a lot tougher than Mexico.
Excellent post! Yes, it is quite hilarious that Trump, the other raving lunatic Navarro, Lutnick & Greer are all taking turns in a propaganda campaign where they’re trying to convince Americans that Canada is just like China or even worse, because it had the audacity to NOT roll over in response to Trump’s ridiculous demands. Because China did the same, it means that Canada is evil just China, you see. I mean, who could argue with that logic? It’s not like throughout history, trade wars have been notable for retaliation by the targeted country or anything!
And they’re running a parallel propaganda campaign where the message is, Canada’s on China’s side, they are evil communists because they trade with China. Sean Hannity was flogging this idea on his show last night. But if course none of these propagandists ever mention that the US does considerably more trade with China as a share of its economy, than Canada does! It’s all so tiresome.
The theory is that protectionism will create jobs for Americans and better paying jobs. Realistically it may benefit a small group of favored union pals, but the majority pay a steep price in living costs. The truth is many American manufacturers are not competitive and will never be given union wages and government mandates. I grew up in steel country and saw this played out. Antique steel manufacturers survived with old technology and high wages until they couldn’t.
yup. saw so many of my pals parents lose their small manufacturing plants in NYC back half a century ago, due to import competition. btw, after ww2 the ruling class in usa did NOT want ww3, so allowed germany italy and japan build back better. usa just controlled aerospace. the future of warfare at the time. now it seems drones are the new battle field. no doubt USA has collapsed as a world wide imperial force whether feared or loved.
The US has built a dinosaur type military much like the manufacturing of the rust belt a grew up in. WW2’s massive air power and old school equipment like tanks and aircraft carriers are not effective against low-cost drone attacks or cyber war. WW2 is history, war has changed.
we had a wonderful cold war, which was so profitable for wall street and MICC. we all remember ducking under our desks and in school halls for air raid drills in the 60s and early 70s. even to a child it seemed idiotic. amerika is a grifter empire. what it was built on. shekels is the only thing that matters. and bling. hence donald from my queens ny hometown
>> , after ww2 the ruling class in usa did NOT want ww3, so allowed germany italy and japan build back better.
FWIW, I think they /did/ want ww3,on European soil again. Churchill asks for Project Unthinkable plans to invade USSR even before Germany’s defeat. Declassified memos show serious planning elsewhere too.
But it was too much to ask. So, the Euro oligarchs gave the serfs a taste of communism, in the form of national healthcare and some critical industry in government hands, and called it social democracy.
Even so, NATO sited nuke IRBMs in Germany, Turkey, etc risking “local” nuke war on European soil. The pushback from war-weary ordinary Europeans fearing nuclear war on their lands eventually led to the treaty banning IRBMs (until Trumpet’s first term).
The Euro BBB/Marshall Plan was as much to reindustrialize enough to manufacture weapons again for whenever the rulers felt they could drag the people to war yet again.
nah. cold war was beautiful. if we wanted to pound the krauts and japs and wops we would have dominated and kept bombing for decades………cold war was so easy. i’m using old terms for LOL, only. we are all just talking apes. from africa.
I’m not saying our oligarchs wanted to keep pounding those prostrated nations.
They wanted to rebuild them into proxies to fight communist Russia and communist China. They also wanted West Germans to make East Germans and Russians jealous and for Japan and South Korea to make Chinese jealous. (Those goals are slightly at odds but mostly complementary for the time.) They did this by turning Germany and Japan into profitable exporters, albeit eventually destroying USA domestic manufacturing.
They sowed the ground with salt in Germany.
Unions have been shrinking for decades.
You’ll need another scape goat
My take on Trumps’s legacy: He made everything worse for the American people except for the possibility of southern border security. The efficacy clearly places him as the worst president in American history.
mexico border is a temporary patch. will never last too long. read some history of it. Ike tried and failed. it’s very difficult to prevent human primates from migrating across land sea and air. if the past 10,000 years is any guide. anthropology and history 101. school girls know this.
It might be easy. But we dont know until we try: Punitive fines against the businesses and people that hire them. No need for deadly and stupid ICE theatrics.
There’s no penalty for hiring illegals under the table, only rewards.
Reagan tried to do that in the 1980s, and the Chamber of Commerce killed it.
Yes, Homo Sapiens is a walker.
We’ve walked long distances to where the game is.
I would have voted for LBJ as the worst president based on the number of Americans killed in the wars in southeast Asia (think Vietnam). Over 58,000 vs 18 in Trump’s Iran war since Feb. 2026.
What about Lincoln?
More Americans died in the civil war than any other. Maybe there’s a better metric
31,000 combat deaths as of his last day in office.
the clot shot that he ‘fast tracked’ has probably killed more Americans than the VNW. We do not know yet because its adverse effects are still being swept under the rug, but Fauci’s turn from hero to goat is telling.
China, of course. Has been in the works for about 33 years.
Mish, remember Bill Daley?
From here in Europe, it’s quite amazing to watch the historic demise of the US’s standing in the world collapse in real time, from being the guarantor of peaceful global trade routes that was so much admired, to being derided/despised for becoming a laughable rogue elephant on the world stage.Hard to imagine it can come back to being trusted/respected in my remaining lifetime.Quite astonishing.
Totally agree with you Stoic.
When I was younger I used to dislike Ronald Reagan when he was in power. It wasn’t till I was in my twenties that I came to admire Ronald Reagan and the fact that he was instrumental in ending the menace of the Soviet Union.
The imperial European rulers (also running USA, Canada, AUS, nz) are the menace. If you notice how much they lie about things you observe in real time, extrapolate backwards and flip everything they told you about world history.
They lie about everything they do and did. They lie about everything their targets do and did.
And as it turned out the ‘menace’ of the Soviet Union was a complete fabrication. Just like almost every other nonsense tale the government spins to get us into compliance.
Reagan was the first president to begin the tradition of any simpleton who could act to get the votes to be suitable for the office.
Warren G. Harding?
Yes, these numb sculls will never understand that trade benefits both parties and economic cooperation encourages peace. To them, everything is a contest with winners and losers.
If you want to know the consequences of trusting the American government, ask a Native American.
The US always was that rogue elephant. Just that the europeans were happy to benefit.
Yes. And when (mostly European stock) USA wasn’t the rogue elephant, it was the various other European empires.
We are suffering from it in real time.
Let us all remember that the orange POTUS never received a majority of the popular vote.
Yes, as he was a mere .2 away from it…
Yes, as a European too, it was pretty amazing (although totally unsurprising) watching the US starting a big war in Europe against our biggest and most powerful neighbor, very important trade partner and strategic energy supplier, watching the US blowing up the NordStream, watching the US leading us into the suicidal sanctions war and pushing us to cut all trade and energy imports from the country WE are waging war against.
But frankly, as a EUropean subject, what the Autopen administration did and what the current clown administration is doing will eventually be to everyone’s benefit since it will accelerate the end of the dystopian, satanic, globalist European Union, of the possibly even worse Perfidious Albion and of the Idiocracy itself: the US.
What will come after will depend on us… And my hopes are very low for the Anglos and the Northern Europeans. Too brainwashed, too fucked up.
China, obviously. Maybe Russia. Maybe Brazil. South Korea and Twain.
Without cheap NG Europe is toast.
It is hard to win a war when you are asleep and blind.
The people might be asleep but not the rulers.
Hard economic times lower the cost of conscription.
Just like Ukraine or anywhere else.
The rulers have too much fuck-you money to care about the lives of the vulgar people.
The european rulers will do just fine, and they are the only ones who count.
china is the big winner from the Iran fiasco too
This clown child is destroying the USA one ignorant decision after another. Probably exactly what the US deserves for its lack of political humility and decency
USA is a shithead empire
Pedro, you are right about China. But I don’t think the manipulated sheep that the Epstein class uses for their “elections” theater…I don’t think we deserve the crap our future holds.
100% agree, Mish about China being the winner. And this dovetails nicely with Carney’s overarching plan to bring Canada closer to China.
In the immortal words of our European prime minister:
“It will be important that China is center stage to shape this new global sustainable financial system.”
– Mark Carney
I don’t believe him. Probably just playing good cop.
Mark Carney when CEO of Brookfield Asset Management transferred it’s Head Office from Toronto to New York ? Then Carney stepped down as CEO and entered Politics and became the Prime Minister of Canada. Carney is as slippery as many Politicans and you really never know his true motives. Why did Carney transfer his headquarters to America just before becoming a Canadian Political Leader?
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/tories-say-carney-supported-brookfield-move-new-york