Meet Trump’s VP Candidate Who Once Equated Trump to Hitler

Meet J.D. Vance, senator from Ohio and Trump’s VP candidate.

Trump on Vance

Vance on Trump

Vance Letter

Trump just handed a massive campaign issue to Biden.

This is exactly the kind of thing that can cost Trump the election.

But hey, both Biden and Trump are calling for unity and healing.

Recall Biden’s Pledge to Unify the Nation, What the Hell Happened?

It’s great to see Trump go with a unity candidate who wants to totally block abortions and compared Trump to Hitler.

Yeah right.

I am totally disgusted, but not a bit surprised.

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CSH
CSH
1 year ago

His comment was taken out of context. He was just being honest about the Rs base at that time, and how the party had backstabbed their base. And Trump’s first presidency made him look more like a Nixon-type cynic than Hitler, for sure, although the lockdowns and helicopter money started by Trump were a very bad idea that we are still paying for.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

We should not condemn the blind that receive sight, we should condemn those blinding the sighted.

Frederick
Frederick
1 year ago

American politics has gotten so boring and absurd Didn’t think it was possible but it has been

Michael 28
Michael 28
1 year ago

The comparison between Vance and Harris will drive the media nuts. There are people that have commented about working for Harris in Sacramento at the Justice Department most of them were about her lack of a work ethic. Since her elevation to VP I’ve seen nothing that indicates that old observation is incorrect. Vance is very astute when discussing budget issues and the coming interaction between the two should be fun to watch on television.

Last edited 1 year ago by Michael 28
Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael 28

she apparently is a chronic pot head, no offense to folks who can smoke without becoming afflicted with a need for the tonic, of the chronic

she’s the poster child for smoke responsibly. What can one say about a woman that takes pride in being Willy’s mouthpiece, literally. Incarcerates record numbers of pot smokers while puffing up on a regular basis and continuing to fail upwards.

Who worships such a person? Who would not find such a person reprehensible? The ignorant and easily manipulated and of course those who do their bidding through her as a mouthpiece and face for their manipulation of a mind washed nation.

Kamala Harris, joe’s insurance – he’s irreplacable when she’s the only replacement.

Michael 28
Michael 28
1 year ago

There are people I’ve been wrong about. This really shows that Trump has more integrity than some people give him credit for. J.D. Vance is a smart honorable guy and Trump is willing to put what he perceives as the country’s interest above his own ego. I’m a bit surprised but very impressed with him.

Jim M.
Jim M.
1 year ago

Those quotes are half a decade old. Unlike you, Vance seems to look at actions that suggest he was wrong and change his mind. Maybe you should take off your “orange man bad” blinders and look at everything Trump (and Vance) have actually DONE. You can even use the great savior Obama as your comparison if feeble Joe seems unfair.

I’ll wait. Won’t hold my breath, though. You’ve already proven you don’t reassess.

Michael 28
Michael 28
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Mish, I understand you don’t like the pick but you have to admit this pick actually shows something we didn’t expect out of Trump. He perceives (right or wrong) Vance as in the country’s interest and is willing to subordinate his ego. To be candid I never thought I’d ever see his ego take a back seat so I’m very impressed with this new Trump 2.0 I hope we see more of this guy. Thank you for a wonderful website.

anEnt
anEnt
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim M.

Hawley, Paul, or Gabbard would’ve been better picks. Vance is meh.

Argus
Argus
1 year ago

People wise up and change. He voted for Trump in 2020. Trump has changed too. Hopefully, so have I.

lawrence bird
lawrence bird
1 year ago

Also said that Trump doesn’t care about the people voting for him

Zero Gravity
Zero Gravity
1 year ago

Another hypocrite. But someone who would expand the base (DEI woman) was off the table. Gotta double down and please the base.

Stu
Stu
1 year ago

In Politics, it’s often wise to forget the past, lest you yourself get caught up in it all. A bad move that leaves you thinking with emotion about the Past, while not paying very much attention to the Present.
Vance is a perfect example of this. The Midwest is very important, and JD helps to lock that Region up for Trump. Vance is also 100% MAGA Based, and has agreed to take and carry that mantle boldly to the Youth of Our Nation. Our Country desperately needs that right now. A Sovereignty and America First campaign. JD is perfectly suited for that specific role.
I will take an Honest, Grounded, well rounded, Educated, that is looking out for Our Country and it’s well being, over what we have now, every single time, and every single chance I can get.

That incident made up my mind and it won’t be changed now. It pointed out glaringly what each party is willing to say and do, and makes my choice extremely simple… this upcoming election anyway.

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago

For an economic based blog kind of a surprise that the GOP platform which boils down to were you better off under Trump or now under Biden, is not getting linked to Vance representing Midwest.
That Midwest, which has lost so many good middle class paying jobs to the Globalists.
The election to a large part will be decided by economics.
Not because of abortion, or a Woman should be president because she is a woman.

Also after the assassination attempt Patriotism has now risen above party.

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago

My wife told me she read Hillbilly Elegy couple years ago.
Liked it a lot.
For Woman it is all not just about abortion.
The Left continues to tell Woman it is all about abortion.
That is going to backlash in a Big way.
Most Woman do not take Life as lightly as the Left does.

DaveFromDenver
DaveFromDenver
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

Everyone should read Hillbilly Elegy. It provides a real life picture on what the researchers named Intergenerational Poverty. AKA Like Father Like Son. Go find a copy and read it before the election.

Michael 28
Michael 28
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

I’ve liked Vance since I saw the Ron Howard movie and followed his career. I grew up with a mom that died very young and an absent alcoholic father so I have a soft spot for guys that grow up with nothing. I got very lucky and Vance was much smarter and it looks a bit luckier. God bless him.

john smith the third
john smith the third
1 year ago

Underwhelming choice. Trump should have gone with Gabbard who is clearly a much better political choice. Lots of people seem to suggest there is some grand strategy at play here by Trump, I bet he just chose the biggest bootlicker. Trump has good instincts but no strategic depth, exactly the kind of qualities you would expect of a reality TV show host.

He will still likely win thanks to Biden’s mental incapacity and the assassination attempt, but this pick weakens his prospects, and you never know the next card Dems might pull out, like suddenly replacing Biden with a figure who is nationally appealing.

Flavia
Flavia
1 year ago

True – Trump cares only for himself.
A concept like a “future legacy” would never enter his mind.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Flavia

You don’t build a real estate empire, by being focused on only today and only yourself. Too many have been blinded by the constant lies of their favorite medias, to actually analyze what sort of man Trump is and what sort of things he wants for this country.

A self loving egotist bigot, would not trudge through the mud Trump has to try to get this nation back on track. He nearly died for this, when he could just sit on a yacht drinking diet cokes and shitposting on Wapo.

Michael 28
Michael 28
1 year ago

Gabbard is a good choice but she’s not a Republican and politically that would not have been a good sell. You have to read your audience in politics. Don’t worry, there’s a good chance she’s going to be a part of Trumps team after he’s elected.

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
1 year ago

Was Trump Assassination Attempt A HOAX?

Analyzing The Likelihood Of Stage MAGIC At The MAGA Rally

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XyQfYhZO9mLT

RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Fast Eddy

It wasn’t a hoax. Two people are dead, including the shooter. Some people are going to go through the video footage frame by frame to try to find something they can point to as an inconsistency with expectation. Alex Jones has been bankrupted by pursuing Sandy Hook as being a hoax.

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ

How many thousand did the government sacrifice in 911?

Please explain how one can touch a bloody ear … and come away with no blood on your hand.

https://old.bitchute.com/video/srBPRGM3YkrQ/

AussiePete
AussiePete
1 year ago
Reply to  Fast Eddy

It takes a beating heart to pump blood into a wound. How many heart beats happened in the one second or so that it took Trump to touch his ear…?

Michael 28
Michael 28
1 year ago
Reply to  Fast Eddy

No offense but this being a hoax is like calling the Apollo missions hoaxes.

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael 28

Did you inject the covid vaccines believing cnn when they told you that you would not get covid if you took two shots?

Did you believe they were safe and effective?

I can see how you might not question the fact that Trump had no blood on his hand after touching his ear

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael 28

2:30 mark https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=2U7X8WSS71HX

Trump ducks when the SS sniper shoots… no shots preceded that…

Trump was not shot… he was not even shot at.

This is totally fake. 100%

Frederick
Frederick
1 year ago
Reply to  Fast Eddy

I have to agree Too much stupidity involved to be real

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
1 year ago

Videos Reagan vs Trump shootings:

https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/reagan-shooting-vs-trump-shooting

hahahaha…

Last edited 1 year ago by Fast Eddy
Drew B
Drew B
1 year ago

Two fake populist ticket. Why not just hand America to Peter Thiel and private equity.

J Huizinga
J Huizinga
1 year ago

Mike: concise and correct. Vance won’t bring anymore Midwestern voters than Trump has already. Strongly suspect this is Trump balancing different rabbinical support groups as Vance is virtually a dual citizen and probably has support from a non-overlapping group of tribal members. Vance also had a red dot Indian wife (pulling HB1 illegal voters i guess).

Cooper
Cooper
1 year ago

Oh the high and lows I’m seeing here are amazing. The last thing I read it was in the bag, today not so much. Glad we both agree this wasn’t the cherry he needed.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Interesting that Vance is a convert to Catholicism because he became convinced it was true. You can agree or disagree with that assessment, but in a country where fewer than 20% of the country is Catholic, there’s no political upside to the conversion. Apparently he felt compelled to follow through with what his intellect concluded.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

It doesn’t take much these days for anybody to be more Catholic than the current pope. We’ll see if Garland’s goons raid the church.

Last edited 1 year ago by Avery2
Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery2

Bergoglio is an antipope. Not a valid pope. Also a heretic and probably much worse.

Neal
Neal
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Being Catholic will help with the Hispanic vote

John CB
John CB
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

“What his intellect concluded” says nothing good about the quality of his intellect.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  John CB

a man must be true to himself first, an attack on a man’s religion which is a bond between him and his god,indicates much more about your character, than Vance’s.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
1 year ago

Ha. Most folks had Vance 4th or 5th on their list but I had him first. He’s a Trump convert which is what Trump needs. Vance might be able to better explain why he went from a Trump hater to a Trump lover. What’s really funny is anyone that thought Trump would pick a woman or non-white. That eliminated much of the supposed candidates and Vance was the obvious choice.

Last edited 1 year ago by Casual Observer
Scott
Scott
1 year ago

VP is not much of a role once the election is over. More important are Trump’s Cabinet picks. Anyone for Tulsi as head of the State Dept.?

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago
Reply to  Scott

+ 1 here

Richard
Richard
1 year ago
Reply to  Scott

I doesn’t matter whether VP “is much of a role”, it was a stupid choice. But Americans are stupid so they won’t notice, anyway.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard

Thanks for underestimating us…it makes it so much easier to blind side you on your throne.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Scott

Jeffrey Sachs for Secretary of State.

Stu
Stu
1 year ago
Reply to  Scott

I like Tulsi anywhere in the Administration. I also do like Vance a lot, and he could make a very significant breakthrough with the younger voters. I could see Trump, with only one term, placing a whole lot more emphasis on all his picks for everything. He will expect and demand big things from these selections, all of them IMO!!!
This may be a campaign run and performed like no other in Our Countries History! I Hope So, for All Of Us!!!

Stuki Moi
Stuki Moi
1 year ago
Reply to  Scott

“VP is not much of a role once the election is over.”

Trump’s almost as old as Biden. And has already been within fractions of an inch of gone…… Statistically, the probability of the VP becoming very important in the next term, regardless of who wins, is a decidedly non trivial.

Not sure how much of a role statistics play into voting decisions among MAGA cultists…… Seeming belief that someone who is pretty much born and raised the ultimate Swamp Thing will; rater magically; “drain” any swamp, indicates not much.

But still: If the strategists advising Trump actually believe in the MAGA nonsense they are spewing; and in addition can count: I can see the VP appeal of a wannabe Donald copy hailing from the MAGA heartland, just in case.

As for crossover appeal: Vance seems to have no problem working with his across the aisle fellow Ohio senator on bringing home the pork… Chances are very good that he is just like the rest of them: Just another careerist Swamp Thing trying to brand himself as something which will get him a bit more attention than simply being honest.

No different from Trump himself. It’s not as if there was even a hair’s breadth between even Maggie Thatcher and Hugo Chavez as far as effective policy mattered. And these various look-at-me-ma-I-think-different-like-everybody-else!’s are a lot closer than those two progressive darned-near-clones were.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Stuki Moi

Maggie could grow a much thicker beard and everyone knows she had testicles the size of grapefruits..

If Trump was truly a SwampThing, why are the swampthings trying to destroy him? Why not welcome him with open arms?

I think you should reexamine your reasoning on these points. Because you are told a thing 24/ 7 by the countries owners, doesn’t make it just so..

Stuki Moi
Stuki Moi
1 year ago
Reply to  Gwako Mole

“If Trump was truly a SwampThing, why are the swampthings trying to destroy him?”

They’re not. For a week or two in 2016 they may have entertained that thought. Then, the Hannitys and Little Marcos happily jumped on board.

“Why not welcome him with open arms?”
They are. Everyone from Lindsey on down…

Even by Swampthing (non)standards, Trump is unusually beholden to the very center of The Swamp: The New York Fed.

Four years past his election; guaranteed: Every metric of debt, deficit, meddling, lack of US competitiveness and the rest, will be even worse than they are today. Just as was the case for his former attempt. As well as for Biden, Obama, both Bushmen, Clinton, that other Senile guy etc.,etc. Going back for at least a century. Probably two. Yes, it’s a deep swamp….

Ron Paul DID appear to want to start draining it. Hence, him: The Swampthings DID try to destroy. Mostly successfully. Goldwater was also a bit less of a sure Swampy. And received a darned cold shoulder as well. Trump: Give me a break! MAGA hats are more common on the empty crani of RINOs in The Swamp, than Burkas are on women in Afghanistan by now. And for good reason: Trump WILL bail them, The Swampthings, also referred to as “The System”, out again. And again. And again. Guaranteed. If for no other reason, then because he is simply too dense and illiterate to know any better.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Scott

Vance is very important in 4 years, or god forbid trump finds himself on the path of mental degeneration that Biden stumbles upon. He is nothing, until the power vacuum pulls him into the limelight.

Consider when judging the choice, the difference between Vance and Kamilla and the powers of judgement that each president has exercised in these choices.

Michael 28
Michael 28
1 year ago

Ever change your mind about someone? I have. J.D. Vance has obviously changed his mind about Trump. New information and an open mind sometimes changes minds.

Pat Kottke
Pat Kottke
1 year ago

It takes time to dispel the prejudices learned at Yale Law. Congrats to Vance for climbing out into the light. He has been solid pro-Trump for a few years now.

Stu
Stu
1 year ago
Reply to  Pat Kottke

One thing Trump was going to make sure of, and that’s a VP that will carry on the Mantle of Conservative Values. Vance is simply “That Person” and unfortunately Tulsi was not that Person. Neither were most of the people he could select, such as Ramaswamy for example. Too young, too far removed and not enough history, to count on for the future actions he may or may not take. While many others are either too entrenched and/or set in the way they will head, and again, no guarantees for Trump to risk them as a pick. Vance is perfect for a 1 Term, carry the Mantle, and if good enough, run for 2 more terms and have a 12 year, True Republican stint, under their belts!

Go DJT/JD Ticket, I wish you Both Well!!!

AussiePete
AussiePete
1 year ago
Reply to  Stu

On a side-note… Vance was good friends with Ramaswamy at Yale, and actually named his second child after him….

Veenerschnitzel
Veenerschnitzel
1 year ago

People mature and change. I remember Joetatoe and Kamala saying awful things on stage to each other but now look at those two lovebirds. Trump/Vance 2024 will be epic!

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

Biden hated the war in Iraq, until he became vice president and then he loved it… Some people change for money, like Joe. Some people change for ideas, like Vance.

I like a man who can change his mind when thinks things through, it shows intellect. I am nothing like I was as a child or a young man, and yet I am the same person.

To live life without reevaluating and changing one’s ideas, is to not live or understand life.

Anon1970
Anon1970
1 year ago

I wonder whether Vance was aware that Trump had a kosher kitchen in the White House, probably the first president in American history to do so. His son-in-law is Modern Orthodox (Jewish) and his daughter was a convert to Judaism. Not exactly a Hitler thing. Times change. FDR was the first president to bring lots of Jewish employees into the government (e. Henry Morgenthau Jr.) But FDR went to his reward almost 80 years ago.

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago
Reply to  Anon1970

Unfortunately ‘Hitler’ at this point is often just a gibberish slur used without any of the necessary historical context attached.

lawrence bird
lawrence bird
1 year ago
Reply to  Anon1970

Jared is also on the tribunal list

KJames
KJames
1 year ago

“Trump just handed a massive campaign issue to Biden.” More like he neutralized it.

John CB
John CB
1 year ago

I’m not surprised, either, but disgusted beyond words. Trump already owned the GOP base, because we have nowhere else to go. He had a lot of libertarians, because they detest the socialist managerial state and where else are they realistically to go? So this arrogant twit picks a religionist VP candidate who can reasonably cause any woman who believes she owns herself to have second thoughts about voting for Trump. What kind of misfunctioning brain tells a GOP candidate that he benefits from dragging abortion into the election? And as I think you said, it could have been avoided. Gabbard would have solved that problem and might have helped convince some of us, who remember Trump’s first term too well, that we would be voting for real change. Now his issues are “Joe’s senile,” federal rates should be cut, and “tips shouldn’t be taxed”? Wow!

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  John CB

Never ceases to amaze me that someone can look around this country and say “You know what the problem is here? Not enough abortions.”

John CB
John CB
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Your response is dishonest. It amazes me that anyone can look around the country and imagine that someone else’s abortion is any of his business.

Mypillow
Mypillow
1 year ago
Reply to  John CB

Not much different than criminalizing bank robbery or drug use. Everything in this country not enshrined in the constitution is something that can change via laws.

Stuki Moi
Stuki Moi
1 year ago
Reply to  Mypillow

“Not much different than criminalizing bank robbery or drug use.”

Drug use, perhaps so. VERY different from bank robbery.

The constitution granted strictly enumerated Government POWERS. Diametrically opposite of strictly enumerated individual rights; which is how progressive idiots, and ambulance chasing trash on the make; true to idiot form persists in misconstruing it.

Government is not granted ANY enumerated power to obtain any indication whether some dude is pregnant or not. Nor ANY power to have any idea what goes on between some dude and his doctor behind closed doors. Both of which requires blatantly violating any even remotely coherent interpretation of unreasonable search.

Abortion is brutal murder of one’s own child; fine. But it is murder taking place behind a veil NO LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT has any right to pierce. Hence is not for government to meddle in.

In order to maintain a free society; what is important is to restrict government. Even if that means someone just about may get away with what intuitively ought to be a “crime” now and then. Any other alternative is just another variation on an unconstrained, totalitarian STASI state. Which is, truth to be told, what we now live in, in America.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Stuki Moi

If the federal government can bail out the banks with our tax dollars, how cannot it not tell a woman when and how she may terminate her progeny?

a government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.

Trump realizes that among others problems the government is too big and is one of the biggest enemies of the people at large.

Unless you are pregnant, an abortion is the least of the problems of this nation, yet still a great indication of the stratification of society into segments pitted against each other, rather than the power structure keeping us imprisoned in their economic prison.

Stuki Moi
Stuki Moi
1 year ago
Reply to  Gwako Mole

“If the federal government can bail out the banks with our tax dollars, how cannot it not tell a woman when and how she may terminate her progeny?”

You’re right: The current Federal Government can do absolutely anything it arbitrarily wants. Without ANY constraints whatsoever. That is, after all, what it means to live in a fully totalitarian terror state without as much as a single redeeming quality whatsoever.

No legitimate government, where government is in the service of the people, can do either of those, though.

It’s pretty obvious which side Trump is on; regardless of both silly sales pitches and an even sillier indocrinati falling for them.

Murray
Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  John CB

im with you on Tulsi and am disappointed… BUT … if you’re talking about taking a life in this country and the laws around doing so, it’s absolutely my business. abortion, at least at some point, involves 2 human beings. we are either a country that values life or we are not. a country with no death penalty (the state cannot be trusted) and abortion restrictions centered on respect for the sanctity for human life is not a radical position.

John CB
John CB
1 year ago
Reply to  Murray

Rubbish. It’s a position that puts your unprovable religious conjectures ahead of another citizen’s regulation of her body.

Murray
Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  John CB

lots of assumptions on your part … im assuming that matches your ignorance.

Murray
Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  John CB

AND … i think you just mis gendered every man that wants to have abortions … you lefties make this so fun.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Murray

my uterus aches with laughter, my testicles weep at the prospect of my barren womb and I spend all day trying on pronouns and making mindless vids seeking TikTok likes and fame. The burden of a straight white man is to become politically correct by removing his testicles.

Stu
Stu
1 year ago
Reply to  John CB

It becomes everybody’s business, when the current President of Our Country, uses Abortions as an excuse to have Open Borders!

I detest that move, and especially when that same current President, pushes Abortions even after the baby is actually born. We used to call that Murder, but now it’s simply an excuse to allow more Illegals Into Our Country.

We have a massive problem in this Country, but it’s not what you think it is…

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Do you genuinely think that’s an honest interpretation of the general mindset? Women are going to get abortions whether we like it or not. How do you compromise a problem where the extremes of one side says ban it completely and the other side wants to bring back the days of exposing children?

I have no idea. One thing that I’ve never really understood is why this issue is so critical to religious conservatives over some other issues. Doesn’t it make sense that it be left up to God to punish these people?

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Corvinus

I actually do think it’s an honest portrayal of the situation. Post Dobbs, access to abortion is virtually unhindered. Minnesota, for example, codified a right to abortion for any reason through the full nine months. Other states’ restrictions on abortion are being rolled back. In that context, to think access to abortion is the top issue is actually weird. You claim it’s critical to religious conservatives, but it’s obviously more critical to irreligious leftists.

John CB
John CB
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

The measure of your integrity is in the term “irreligious leftists.” There are quite a few atheists who detest the left as much as they detest religion’s influence in politics, and for the same principal reason.

Murray
Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  Corvinus

believers have failed you if that’s how you think we think. I’m saying that honestly. I’m not making a statement “at” you.

Stuki Moi
Stuki Moi
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient


Never ceases to amaze me that someone can look around this country and say “You know what the problem is here? Not enough abortions.”

What’s even more amazing: “You know what the problem is here? Not enough government meddling into the lives of others.”

AussiePete
AussiePete
1 year ago
Reply to  Stuki Moi

You mean, kinda like how the government outrageously interferes with the sacred right of any murderer to go about his life unhindered after the act…?

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
1 year ago

While many pretend January 6th never happen, they are lying to themselves. Had Trump simply not gone overboard after he LOST the 2020 election, then he might win in 2024. January 6th is going to haunt Trump. Trump’s negative period is coming in August through November.

Mypillow
Mypillow
1 year ago

I have never really recognized anything truly serious about Jan 6th. There were a bunch of folks trespassing into federal buildings and lots of racket. That’s about all. You’ve beat a dead horse enough. Time to move on.

Stu
Stu
1 year ago

Many of us know and understand 1/6 was a “Peaceful Protest” as the FBI Ruled already, and quite some time ago.

What many don’t understand, is why people still pretend January 6th was anything more than what the “Top Law Enforcement Agency” in the U.S. (Under Democratic Leadership), already ruled on? Are they simply lying to themselves, and why are they so delusional?

Trump’s period of proven or being proven wrong for anything alleged while in office, and since he has been out of office, is TDS and nothing more. It is sad to watch what people are willing to say and do, under this spell of illusion and make believe, as a guiding principle…

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
1 year ago
Reply to  Stu

But I voted for Trump in 2016. So can’t say it’s TDS. I had hopes. But his time now marks a period of going from one disaster to another from 2016 and won’t end until 2033. Enjoy the amazing disasters. America’s decline will end when Trump’s political life ends.

Last edited 1 year ago by Casual Observer
Stu
Stu
1 year ago

Good for you and your intellect at the time. 2016 was and has gone down already, as one of the best in modern history for Our Country! I applaud and “Thank You” as does the Nation and most Voters with your intellect at that time!

Why not go for another monumental 4 Years of incredible History for Our Country? Well I suppose you could change up, bring the Country very far South of where it could go, and go for 4 more years of “Open Borders” and “Massive Inflation” and a Police State in action. You do You however, as it’s your right to do so. Please don’t complain if that happens and you are dumbfounded by what’s going on afterwards…

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago

Any threat to the nation represented by January 6th is nothing more that a progressive liberal fever dream driven into your skull by a never ending barrage of propaganda. Those people were never a threat to anyone.

HMK
HMK
1 year ago

Artifa. burning looting and murdering with the support of the libtards and their queen camel a is swept under the rug by card carrying TDS retards. Your type are pathetic.

Last edited 1 year ago by HMK
Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  HMK

while I agree with all you say, mean rhetoric just makes the other side hurt, and they think with their feelings. I try to take the high ground and talk to them like children, they really don’t understand the world they are in or what is going on.

Best to continually nudge them out of harms way, until they mature or leave this realm. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him think… Albert Einstein

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Was Vincent Fusca / JFK jr there?

Cooper
Cooper
1 year ago

right – Trump peaked too soon

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Cooper

I think you mispelled “Biden”…

Murray
Murray
1 year ago

the laptop was real. the election was rigged. no way around that fact.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Murray

actually both elections were rigged, Hilary funding the russian dossier was fact as well.

RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago

I don’t know of anyone who pretends it didn’t happen. But we don’t know the whole story. The election was corrupted. As Googe said, they weren’t going to allow 2016 to happen again. That was election interference. Suppression of the Hunter laptop was election interference. In some states election rules were unconstitutionally changed. Not the hallmarks of a free and fair election.

Flavia
Flavia
1 year ago

I can see this guy getting up Trump’s nose at some point.
Can Trump fire the VP? Like the generals & staff members that he fired.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Flavia

A president cannot fire a vice president

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

They just bury them in meaningless busy work as Biden did fto Harris. Although that may be all that Harris is intellectually capable of.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

but the CIA can….

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago

Excellent article here!

Donald Trump, Man of Destiny

July 15, 2024, 6:35 p.m. ET

By Ross Douthat

Opinion Columnist

Every act of political violence yields instant reactions that can’t be supported by the available facts.

A single assassination attempt by a loner with a rifle doesn’t necessarily tell us anything about whether America is poised to plunge into a political abyss. Nor do the motives of would-be assassins necessarily map onto a given era’s partisan divisions. Nor can we say definitively that this assassination attempt has sealed up the 2024 election for Donald Trump and his running mate, J.D. Vance — surely the wild twists and turns of the Trump era should disabuse us of that kind of confidence.

Having lived through eight years of that era, though, I feel comfortable making one sweeping statement about the moments when Trump shifted his head fractionally and literally dodged a bullet, fell bleeding and then rose with his fist raised in an iconic image of defiance. The scene on Saturday night in Pennsylvania was the ultimate confirmation of his status as a man of destiny, a character out of Hegel or Thomas Carlyle or some other verbose 19th-century philosopher of history, a figure touched by the gods of fortune in a way that transcends the normal rules of politics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/opinion/donald-trump-assassination-destiny.html

John CB
John CB
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo

Douthat should take his hand out of his pants.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo

Americans will try to make a story out of anything even when the truth is a bunch of random events.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

the truth, my friend, is ALWAYS a bunch of random events. its not a movie, it doesn’t have to make sense, its your life and its going on all around you. Step up you Observing from Casual, to at least Semi-Serious or you will miss an awful lot…

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago

Bizarro world!

George T
George T
1 year ago

Tulsi was really overlooked.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago
Reply to  George T

Maybe do more good in the State Department, Douglas MacGregor as wingman. Will not ‘equate’ to Blinkin and Sullivan.

Last edited 1 year ago by Avery2
Veenerschnitzel
Veenerschnitzel
1 year ago
Reply to  George T

I see Trump bringing her on board in a different capacity. She would certainly be an asset to his administration.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
1 year ago
Reply to  George T

She was never close. Trump the misogynist would never pick a woman.

corvinus
corvinus
1 year ago

So how does that theory jibe with the theory of Trump’s apparent necessity for absolute unwavering loyalty given that Vance compared him to Hitler? Could it be that Trump can be……forgiving? Pearl clutching incoming.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

you are right, he would never pick a woman, just because she was a woman. He will pick the most qualified, he doesn’t run a DEI summer camp.

Rjohnson
Rjohnson
1 year ago

This country is a joke. Unfort its on me cuz I live here.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Rjohnson

suggest you learn to laugh or consider emigration, its takes a lot of muscle to turn the ship of state and when you are just sitting in a deck chair, you’re really just baggage,, only the captain makes things happen. Step up or step aside as they say at the weekend motiviational meetings..

dtj
dtj
1 year ago

I don’t know why ‘deep state’ war-monger Rubio was even on Trump’s list. It gave plausibility to the idea that Trump is just an ‘actor’ or controlled opposition. Glad that Rubio won’t be part of the plot line.

Perplexed Pete
Perplexed Pete
1 year ago
Reply to  dtj

Trump did the same with Romney by considering him for a cabinet position. I think it is a way of Trump trying to transform political enemies into political friends. Unfortunately for Trump this doesn’t work in a world where Senators take $60 million in campaign contributions to win a senate seat that pays under $300k/year. Rubio and Romney are puppets to the elite multi-billionaire donor class.

Perplexed Pete
Perplexed Pete
1 year ago

Hitler rose out of the economic ashes and extreme moral decay of the German Weimar government of the 1920’s. During the late 1930’s, Hitler reduced high unemployment to nearly zero, strengthened the weak German military, and built a strong sense of National pride amongst the German citizens. In this regard, I think the Trump-Hitler analogy used by Vance is apropos. This DOES NOT mean Vance was calling Trump a mass-murdering antisemite.

babelthuap
babelthuap
1 year ago
Reply to  Perplexed Pete

JFK admired Hitler for the things you mentioned. Many intelligent people got sucked into these aspects of Hitler’s leadership early on.

Plato however explained how this happens many moons ago though when a Republic fails. It turns into an ass backwards democracy which is what we have now. From there a tyranny rises up.

Trump however is not the tyrant. What happens after Trump will be a tyrant if this liberal narcissistic democracy isn’t cleaned up.

HMK
HMK
1 year ago
Reply to  babelthuap

Part of the fourth turning. A book by Neil Howe. The shtf moment.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Perplexed Pete

The Brown Shirts that Hitler used were led by Weimar decadence and homosexuality. In truth, the Biden / Obama admin align more closely with historical analogues.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick

especially the control of the media and the brainwashing of the masses.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Perplexed Pete

The similarities between California and pre-war Berlin are very striking. especially the focus on gender disphoria.

Hounddog Vigilante
Hounddog Vigilante
1 year ago

I would have preferred Tulsi Gabbard.

But I understand Trump’s calculus w/ the Vance pick.

The Donald believes JD will preserve & continue the MAGA agenda. Trump is betting that Vance can pull the party (rank&file) towards him. They want to change (renew?) the republican party… establish a broader cultural & political legacy.

Had Trump selected Rubio, I’d be enraged/suicidal.

Vance is the MAGA/culture war/swamp-draining choice, yes?

SO BE IT.

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago

Vance will be the Midwest hometown poor boy made good.
Trump needs to mop up the Midwest to solidly win.
The South is Trump country.
That GOP convention is in Milwaukee shows just how important Midwest is to bringing real change to this country.
Lot of forgotten Americans in Midwest, Trump might even pull off Minnesota.

Mypillow
Mypillow
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

What are Midwestern states? I’ve never considered any rust belts states Midwest.

Hounddog Vigilante
Hounddog Vigilante
1 year ago
Reply to  Mypillow

midwest starts @ ohio river watershed, imo.

i think most of the rust belt is midwestern.

Pgh, Buffalo, Erie… Ohio to Iowa…

Mypillow
Mypillow
1 year ago

Indiana and westward to Nebraska is Midwest to me, Michigan not included. It’s the overall feel and atmosphere that makes a state Midwest, mountain, West coast, South, and so forth.

Last edited 1 year ago by Mypillow
Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Mypillow

I’ve notified Rand-McNally of your delineation of the geographic US. They promise to update in next printing.

ps sometimes the world is more than whatever you beleive. We live in a world of consensus, if most people think you are sane, you are. if most people think NYC is in the Midwest, it will be..

Woodsie Guy
Woodsie Guy
1 year ago

Suicidal over a politician….yup…makes perfect sense.

Perplexed Pete
Perplexed Pete
1 year ago

Tulsi Gabbard was a hardcore lefty who was always strongly anti-second amendment. Only after she miraculously turned “red” did she realize that gun rights are vital for defending property rights and individual liberty. True conservatives will never trust her due to her LONG history of opposing the second amendment. She would have been dead weight on the Trump ticket, which proves that your preference for Tulsi is apparently based on emotion rather than logic. After seeing how hard you ride other people’s @sses in the comment section, I find your weak logic quite comical.

Hounddog Vigilante
Hounddog Vigilante
1 year ago
Reply to  Perplexed Pete

???

Vance is the most maga/AF of all the suspected VP possibilities, yes? He is a relatively strong policy guy – but not swamp/establishment. And not an electoral/demographic boost – OH was always a lock.

Obviously DJT choose a ‘legacy’-type VP, and not an ‘electoral’-type VP. Trump is probably very happy/confident about his electoral chances at this point, and he resisted the temptation to sacrifice that position/leverage for the sake of checking boxes that expire in Nov.

I liked Tulsi mostly for (cynical) electoral advantage – win this election. And i think Tulsi would have helped in that regard. And anything she could do thereafter would be gravy.

so DJT avoided a Pence/swamp redux… fantastic, yes?

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Perplexed Pete

I agree. Tulsi is a Democrat and would have lost Trump’s base not to mention setting up the country to a return to milktoast Republicanism after Trump’s term is up.

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

Tulsi would have made that one at least 10 times funnier. Lol

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

Crybaby Kinzinger a.k.a. The Ghost Of Kyiv is the pick of the litter.

Veenerschnitzel
Veenerschnitzel
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

Hilarious love the BB

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago

Will be looking forward to the VP debate.
Vance vs. Harris
High intelligence vs. you know the thingy

Anyways Vance shows he is not one dimensional and is not tied to the past.
Trump did not pick a placeholder nor a toadie cheerleader.
Vance will have appeal to millennials being 39. Presents the next generation with some say in how they will be governed.

Am willing to let him make his case.

Scott Craig LeBoo
Scott Craig LeBoo
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

The Trump Show has only one star. There is no #2. JD will be quietly in the back in the kitchen making sandwiches if we see him at all for four years.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Obama’s chef should have stayed in the kitchen.

RichardF
RichardF
1 year ago

Vance vs Harris.
Sorry can not stop laughing.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

Vance wrote a book. Harris read part of a book.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Entitled, “Where is Waldo?”

AussiePete
AussiePete
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

*Headline* –

“The Vice-Presidential Library tragically burned down yesterday. Both books were totally destroyed. One of them hadn’t even been colored-in yet….”

Flavia
Flavia
1 year ago

He better be good at obeying the boss’s orders.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  RichardF

Thats not a debate, thats suicide on live tv.

whatever
whatever
1 year ago

So let me get this straight: Mish is taking a private comment in a private communication, and is using that to make judgement calls? Do I have that right? This was not a policy or public notice, but something 1:1?

If this is true – a private conversation – there is all sorts of wrong with that. I guess if Mish has never ever said something disparaging about anyone else in what he thought was a private conversation – like grousing about a love partner, a parent, a boss. Crap, you should hear what my wife and I say in private to each other about my sister-in-law, but we are all sweet and nice at family functions. Do you think digging up private conversations and airing them is morally okay and shows the character of the person in the private conversation, or the person who revealed it and is using it?

Then we have the Supremes sending abortion back to the States, Trump saying that is the right move, and publicly stating to leave it there with no changes (and stating that he personally approves abortion to three months), AND we have the platform of the republican party moderating their stance on abortion. And Mish goes off on…the abortion stances of federal officials? Really? Of all the problems in the US that is your main concern at the federal level?

I am not thrilled about the choice since I don’t think he brings much to the ticket, but leave the histrionics at home. Ask ten people on the street and I bet maybe two of them would know Biden himself was a former VP, and probably zero could name Gore, Mondale, Cheney, and maybe only one could name Kamaaaala.

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago
Reply to  whatever

+10

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago
Reply to  whatever

Mish, was that Vance tweet from “6 hours ago” posted this morning on his ride to Milwaukee?

Scott
Scott
1 year ago
Reply to  whatever

Yes, struck me that Mish threw a little tantrum there. Totally uncalled for and emotional.

The Window Cleaner
The Window Cleaner
1 year ago

Its no problem. Half of Americans are stupid and cultish, Vance and the repubican party does not have a problem with lies and border on psychotic rejection of proven facts and realities. The republican’s only problem is the dems are the majority party, abortion and they ave no policies to satisfy swing voters and swing states.

Scott Craig LeBoo
Scott Craig LeBoo
1 year ago

Dan Quayle moment. History doesnt repeat but it rhymes.

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago

Ross Perot did in Bush by splitting the Republican vote, not Quayle.

Scott Craig LeBoo
Scott Craig LeBoo
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

No but Q was the laughingstock for years. Ross just quietly faded away …

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago

Vance is no laughingstock.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

He was/is laughing all the way to the bank.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Kamala has cornered the market on rhymes – Dr Seuss on crack. She should read her stories to the kids every week like Barbara Bush.

Last edited 1 year ago by Avery2
CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
1 year ago

Publicly, he called the Republican presidential candidate an ‘idiot‘…

and said he was ‘reprehensible.’

Privately, he compared him to Adolf Hitler.

J.D. Vance once compared Trump to Hitler. Now they are running mates | Reuters

Hey, at least he kept the Hitler comment private! Just imagine if that went public.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Who treated their dogs best: Hitler, Biden or Noem?

Last edited 1 year ago by Avery2
Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

I’d be more concerned if he said “Putin is Hitler” and believed it like the other 90% of congressional dolts.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago

Rome burns and we worry about mean words…

John
John
1 year ago

But can the Trump Team beat the soon to slotted in Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg powerhouses?

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  John

lol. Buttgeek on the ticket would cause every black man except Billy Porter and Ru Paul to stay home.

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago

I’m not enthused but I’m still voting Trump.

guest
guest
1 year ago

Vance will make a nice Goebbels.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago
Reply to  guest

The governor of Illinois is fatter than Göring, though.

Last edited 1 year ago by Avery2
Scott Craig LeBoo
Scott Craig LeBoo
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery2

But Pritzker does follow the script Ill give him that. He never veers from the demo playbook.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Was in cahoots with Blago, but feds only went after the latter.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery2

pound for pound you get way more government in Illinois.

realityczech
realityczech
1 year ago
Reply to  guest

sounds like you need more fiber in your diet.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  guest

actually I think Bidens Department of Disinformation and its Dr.Seuss rhyming pyschopath was much closer to Goebbels

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/24/politics/dhs-disinformation-board-shut-down/index.html

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
1 year ago

Congrats JD!

BTW, read his book, Hillbilly Elegy. It’s a great book. VP Vance will be one of the most iconic rags to riches stories ever.

Scott Craig LeBoo
Scott Craig LeBoo
1 year ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

Is JD one of those scumbags who got a billion dollars interest free to buy up America too? Why 1 out of every 4 houses is owned by a corporation?

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Yes. He personally owns all of Wisconsin.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

he is planning on putting more holes in the swiss cheese so you pay more for less. They are devious, to do so much with so little, practically nothing turned into billions. so many worries, so little time

Anon1970
Anon1970
1 year ago

No. He made something of himself in spite of his white trash background in Appalachia.

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
1 year ago

Read his book. It’s amazing what JD overcame to become Vice President of the United States.

I’m telling you as a public service because the MSM never will.

DAVID J CASTELLI
DAVID J CASTELLI
1 year ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

Literally just got back from purchasing it at B&N local store. Shop local

Anon1970
Anon1970
1 year ago

I read the book a few years ago. Enjoy it.

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago

Thanks Ish…people change their opinions all the time…and it’s okay. Didn’t you know that?

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmy

the difference between an Idea and a dogma….

DennisAOK
DennisAOK
1 year ago

Too young, too protectionist, too isolationist.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  DennisAOK

“Isolationist” meaning he doesn’t want the U.S. to attempt to run the whole world. He’s not “isolationist” enough, if you ask me.

Hounddog Vigilante
Hounddog Vigilante
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

well said.

Naphtali
Naphtali
1 year ago

Well, this may cement this election historically as the absolute worst this country has experienced. I may have to sit this one out.

realityczech
realityczech
1 year ago
Reply to  Naphtali

There’s 3 other options. Use your vote. Get educated.

Scott
Scott
1 year ago
Reply to  realityczech

He said “sit” not “figure”

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago

Another christian conservative wearing religion on their sleeve. Great. He’s got an indian descent wife who was a california Democrat until she married the guy. I guess they at least can’t call him a racist? I dunno. Whatever.

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago
Reply to  Corvinus

To be completely fair though, I don’t know that much about this guy. I still think Tulsi would have had the highest and broadest appeal as a VP. Missed opportunity to widen the reach of the party, IMO. I’m a secular social conservative who believes in probably most of the social agenda positions of the religious right but who also thinks religion is a weak basis for position arguments. ‘Because the Bible says so’ doesn’t appeal to me and lot of other people. Those Conservatives need to leave the Bible at Sunday school if they hope to ensure that conservative values can survive. Barry Goldwater was right.

John Shannon
John Shannon
1 year ago
Reply to  Corvinus

Tulsi will probably be selectes for another high-level position in the administration. My guess would be Secretary of Defense.

ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago

His analysis of the vacuum Trump filled in the GOP and US politics is spot on.

Still a bad Veep choice.

DAVID J CASTELLI
DAVID J CASTELLI
1 year ago
Reply to  ajc1970

Agree on both counts

Scott Craig LeBoo
Scott Craig LeBoo
1 year ago
Reply to  ajc1970

He was picked cause youll never see him .. for 4 years. Only one person in this opera and its Big Orange.

Bill
Bill
1 year ago

Your VP was actually placed in charge of something of high import–the border. So visibility is irrelevant I guess. Maybe focus on effectiveness. What an unmitigated disaster. But, a DEI hire from his lips to America’s ears–I’m going to hire a woman of color as VP (and later same mistake with his SCOTUS pick).

Also, name someone on the GOP VP list of folks that would have been “seen”, in your eyes, as usurping Donald Trump in visibility? I can maybe name one or two who are highly visibil and neither of those were interested or currently have highly effective, long-held positions they would have to abandon. My hopeful pick was Sarah Huckabee Sanders who can govern, is on Team Trump, has his confidence and served as Press Secretary. Tulsi was a Mish pick which filled gaps but Huckabee has done the executive branch. Vivek is a vocal Trump 2.0 but often continues speaking long after silence was warranted.

Not a fan of this VP pick mostly because I prefer executives to run executive things BUT your current VP is so invisible that she hasn’t been elevated to the Presidency despite it being required given Biden’s state AND when she is visible, she shrinks like a wallflower and is completely ineffective as evidenced by the one task she was assigned.

So go ahead and start talking smack about this pick while taking a shot at the former President, it’s all you got.

realityczech
realityczech
1 year ago

tell me about headboard harris.

Gwako Mole
Gwako Mole
1 year ago
Reply to  ajc1970

indeed!! always a poor idea, to have a person with above average reasoning skills in government., plus he’s white, and has testicles, so many things Trump was willing to overlook, that Biden would have shot down immediately.

Next let’s discuss whether he likes dogs or cats or god forbid fishes. You know Tulsi had nicer shoes and a funnier name. look a squirrel…

Bill Meyer
Bill Meyer
1 year ago

At the risk of being an outlier I believe Vance to be a pretty good strategic pick for the long-term good of the Republican party. Vance is a doubling down on Trump’s agenda, doesn’t outshine the boss but brings an intellectual depth to many of the issues that Trump champions. Trump is not particularly conservative…really, Vance is more so. He’s young with room to grow, just hoping the bloodthirsty neocons and those who care about every other country in the world (except ours) can be kept at bay. Vance is no Bush Republican, nor is he mindless Q MAGA either, both are good characteristics…to NOT have.

Last edited 1 year ago by Bill Meyer
Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Bill Meyer

Agree. Naphtali sitting this one out is a good sign.

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