Will Biden stay in until the bitter end? Be forced out by the 25th amendment? Drop out voluntarily? Let’s discuss when and how. I have specific dates and reasons.
Betting Odds
The Betting Odds on Polymarket suggest a 60 percent chance that Biden drops out. But it does not specify how.
Biden can drop out voluntarily. In the voluntary category I include extreme pressure (but not threats) from friends, associates, and major contributors.
Biden can drop out involuntarily in several ways. Two ways are easy to count. The first way for Biden to be forced out is by the 25th Amendment. The second way is something that will eventually happen to all of us.
An ambiguous setup is Biden drops out under threat of the 25th. I’m not sure how one can prove that other than the majority of his staff voluntarily admits it, which I don’t think they would.
There is a third obscure involuntary way.
All In Good Conscience
I rule that option out.
How Close Are We to the 25th Amendment Approach?
“You could debate the exact order, but right now we’re about half way up this ladder,” says Nate Silver.
Much of 1-7 is well underway but desperation still clings.
Please Walk to Podium
Image from Axios on Biden Preparation.
How Long Has This Been Going On?
For those seeking a musical tribute: How Long Has This Been Going On?
The above version is from Ace.
Fact check on who first sang that: Originally written as a duet for Smarty in 1927, the song was later introduced in the 1928 musical Rosalie by Bobbe Arnst as Mary O’Brien. Adele Astaire and Jack Buchanan originally sang the song to describe the excitement of a first kiss.
The answer to the above question is at least three years and possibly much longer.
The question at hand now: How much longer can this possibly go on?
Timing
On July 1, I commented The DNC May Nominate Biden a Month Early to Stop Replacement Calls
The Democratic National Convention is August 19-22. Well who cares about that? We may find out on July 21 when the rules committee meets.
The DNC is meeting early to ensure the nominee is set by Ohio’s Aug. 7 deadline.
Q: Why speed it up further?
A: To make Biden the official presidential nominee and Kamala Harris the official VP nominee ASAP.
Q: OK, but what does that do?
A: Short answer, lots. Long answer below.
What Happens Then?
Please consider What happens if a presidential candidate dies or steps down?
If it happens before the nominating conventions, the assembled delegates at the conventions will select the new nominee from among other candidates or potential new entries into the race. If, for example, Barack Obama had died in advance of the 2008 convention, Hilary Clinton, John Edwards, and the rest of the Democratic primary field would have worked to curry favor from various delegates prior to the official nomination. Delegates would have then voted, and a new nominee would have been announced. The same process would have occurred had Obama simply dropped out of the race.
If the death comes after the candidate has been officially nominated, though, the two major parties have different rules for selecting a new candidate:
In the Democratic Party “the members of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) choose the new nominee during a special session called by the chair. Per the Task Force’s explainer, “The DNC chair is required to consult with Democratic congressional leadership and the Democratic Governors Association, and then reports to DNC members who choose.”
The Democrats actually engaged in this process in 1972, when vice presidential nominee Thomas Eagleton withdrew from the race, and was replaced by Sargent Shriver after a vote from the DNC.
The Republican Party, meanwhile, vests the power to choose a new nominee with the Republican National Committee (RNC). As the explainer lays out, “members would vote as part of their state delegation under the same vote distribution used for the convention itself, and delegation members could divide their votes if they did not agree. Alternatively, the Republicans could reconvene the national convention.”
It gets messier after ballots are printed and someone dies or is stopped out voluntarily or involuntarily shortly before the election.
But it’s not as bad as it seems. Voters cast their ballots not for a specific candidate but for a slate of electors pledged to that candidate through the electoral college.
The slate would not vote for a dead person or someone who is not running no matter what the cause. But this would be very confusing to the public.
This appears to be Biden’s handler’s battle cry,
Hang On Sloopy
At a minimum, Biden will try to hang on until July 21. That’s only 13 days from now.
If Biden resigns after the DNC makes it official, even if that’s before the convention, it kills any chance of an open convention.
Then if Biden drops out, the DNC will “choose the new nominee during a special session called by the chair.”
Forget about this nonsense “The DNC chair is required to consult with Democratic congressional leadership and the Democratic Governors Association.”
Consult? So what? The DNC will consult, then it will do what it wants.
Q: What’s that?
A: The obvious: nominate Kamala Harris
I do not believe Biden will last until the election.
If so, the sooner Democrats can dump him the better, with one important exception. The DNC wants to control the process rather than have an open convention free-for-all.
Look for an official nomination announcement on July 21, 22, or 23. My guess is Biden becomes the official nominee on July 22, two weeks from today.
Then sometime before the convention, look for Biden to “voluntarily” quit (perhaps told to quit or else face the 25th amendment) sometime between July 22 and Ohio’s August 7 deadline.
As long as I am going out on a limb, let’s go further. Look for Biden to be off the ticket sometime between August 1-5, replaced by Kamala Harris. This conveniently resolves any potential issue with Ohio and allows (forces) the convention to get excited over Kamala.
The liberal media wants an open convention for obvious reasons (excitement, big party). And the media generally does not want Kamela. This is the ongoing battle right now.
There’s quite a bit of speculation here so let’s see.
Regardless …
The Democrats Got Their Dream Wish, Now They Have to Live With It
That dream is about to morph into Kamala, one way or another, sooner or later.
The sooner it happens, the more time Democrats have to adjust. But the DNC cannot let that happen too soon or it leads to an open convention.
Meanwhile, please note a Post-Debate USA Today-Suffolk Poll Has Grim News for President Biden
Also, I contend a recession has begun. If so, we could easily see a red wave. For discussion of the economics, please see Weak Data Says a Recession Has Already Started, Let’s Now Discuss When
KamalaToe is really dumb, but i think she can read professionally well-written speeches. That’s a path to Big Party and maybe even a D victory
Harris and Robert is a non starter. Will not happen.
I think Trump might not be very excited about the prospect of debating Kamala Harris. Though I’m not a R or D supporter due to their dollar debasing ways, she seems like the type to call out his bluff and bluster, though again, he could criticize the Democrats ways, but wait, the Republicans do the same thing. Trump certainly isn’t conservative. He proudly signed the printed money stimulus checks that fueled inflation. Funny because Biden is said to now be the only candidate that can lose to Trump, but if Harris runs, suddenly, Trump is the only one that can lose to her, which is maybe what the Democrats perceive and why this sudden turn away from Biden.
If the Ds had their convention at the Chicago United Center a couple of weeks ago instead of the debate, then they could have nominated Mick and Keith who were already there and are a year younger than FJB. The Illinois Secretary of State could help with the IDs in exchange for loaded $hoeboxes.
Even the Partridge Family, or The Monkeys would be a better choice to run things.
Biden is sharp like the edge of town. Believe me. People are saying he’s very sharp. I’m not so sure. He started taking his clothes off at our last debate. Joe’s not all there. Poopie pants Joe – that’s what I call him – and his scant bladder control makes his verbal diarrhea seem not that bad. He’s in bad shape. His wife should be more like Melania. Hot.
Most of the people arguing for Biden to leave the race remain blissfully unaware that he DID have that cognitive test and passed with flying colors. He got his “Ronnie Johnson” letter dated Feb 28, and the Parkinson’s doctor, well, if you don’t care to learn why he was in the WH, then you can choose to remain ignorant of the facts, that’s enough spoon-feeding for one day
I may write-in that Serbian tennis player for U.S. President. Not a tennis fan, but the guy seems based. He can be eligible with slight pdf mods on the birth certificate and selective service registration, then dutifully filing those docs in Hawaii.
I see Obama’s Gay Chemtrails hit your noggin particularly hard.
Courtesy of Tom Luongo
A new campaign slogan coming…
“Joe is only senile sixteen hours a day, but TRUMP IS CRAZY ALL DAY LONG!
LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
But as I stop laughing I realize how _ucked up our country really is now.
Liberals, look in the mirror you scumbags, this is all your fault. And White Liberal suburban women and NYC metrosexuals please stop coming up to my neck of the woods. I’m only 80 miles north of Manhattan but you have been calling us deplorables for years, and now you want to hang out with me at our local venues??
One lie after another ‘biden is fine’
Then gets the 25th. Sounds like democrats.
Kamala—what a joke it’s all become. My as well let AOC have a shot at it, too.
But Her Emails
How about the hollywood clown George Cloonery. After having a fundraiser fopr Biden less than 45 days ago now says he should not run. LMFAO
I want to see liberal on liberal democrat bloodshed in Chicago. These clowns deserve Biden
The Hang On Sloopy girl . . . Wow! I remember when girls looked that good.
It shouldn’t be very difficult to get Biden to withdraw. It would be enough to organize the sabotage of a teleprompter during an interview.
LMAO. How true. Just put it out there on the teleprompter. I hereby resign as of July 10, 2024.
And 1 hour later he will deny he ever said that
If I’m Hunter, I take the odds on the 25th Amendment, and beg Dad to show up at his next press conference in his boxers.
Super smart folks here…
Ever since GW was elected and shot gun in your face Chaney was master puppeteer I thought folks as smart as you all knew….
Put on your smart folks hat.
Ray-gun?
Peanut Carter?
Blue dress sea man slick Willie?
I’d be dissing Mish if I asked him to be president.
Smart folks here indeed.
learning about facts vs towing the party line is a choice
BUTTER EMAILS
Per Donna Brazile, the Democrat nomination ballots ALREADY WENT OUT and are expected back by the end of this week to get on the Ohio ballot.
Biden will be the nominee.
2 years ago.
Like most recession calls I was early on this.
They need someone less senile. Jimmy Carter.
Absolutely insane we have a vegetable in power. Many normal people knew in 2020 that quid pro had dementia. So scary and shameful the dims and evil msm weaseled him into the White House. No doubt that obozo and co have been enjoying their third term. quid pro was the perfect meat puppet. In any case, if they now attempt to foist harris on the nation it’s probably a good thing since she is even less liked than quid pro.
Assuming the DNC wants Kamala Harris as POTUS and avoid an open convention, invoking 25A makes no sense now. Kamala would not risk her own nomination as POTUS in an open convention if she can get the nomination risk free following the DNC script.
Pretty simple solution, Joe. Trust but verify, right? So take the damn cognitive test. If he is SO sharp, he should even make a wager of it. Tell Trump “yeah,. I’ll take your test…I’ll even do it at 10pm and you can drug test me to make sure I’m clean! If I pass, then you drop out of the race. Deal?” That would put Trump in a tight spot. The only problem is, we KNOW Joe can’t pass it – and therefore, should NOT be president right now. He needs to resign office and let Camel Toe take over. QED
Dems are waving the white flag if they don’t replace plank of wood. Of course Joe can use that white flag to wipe himself with unless his night nurse or dr jill biden have some extra wipes in joe’s diaper bag.
Nah, we can just keep hitting the “Steal 5MM votes” button until Biden has 20MM more than Trump
dr jill biden will wail ageism and sexism if he’s pushed out/over a cliff. Of course she should be told she’s being accused of elder abuse and prosecuted. That will never happen, but it would be nice if we at least mimed being a nation of laws.
We are in amazing times when the NY Times editorial board excoriates President Biden so thoroughly as in this editorial. Biden’s candidacy for a 2nd term seems to be at an end. Let the Dem brouhaha for his replacement commence!
The Democratic Party Must Speak the Plain Truth to the President
July 8, 2024, 5:26 p.m. ET
By The Editorial Board
For voters who held out hope that President Biden’s failure to communicate during last month’s debate was an aberration, the intervening days have offered little comfort.
Donald Trump’s candidacy for a second term poses a grave threat to American democracy. Mr. Biden, instead of campaigning vigorously to disprove doubts and demonstrate that he can beat Mr. Trump, has maintained a scripted and controlled schedule of public appearances. He has largely avoided taking questions from voters or journalists — the kinds of interactions that reveal his limitations and caused him so much trouble on the debate stage. And when he has cast aside his teleprompter, most notably during a 22-minute interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Friday, he has continued to appear as a man in decline.
The president, elected in 2020 as an antidote to Mr. Trump’s malfeasance and mendacity, is now trying to defy reality. For more than a year, voters have made it unquestionably clear in surveys and interviews that they harbor significant doubts about Mr. Biden’s physical and mental fitness for office. Mr. Biden has disregarded the concerns of those voters — his fellow citizens — and put the country at significant risk by continuing to insist that he is the best Democrat to defeat Mr. Trump.
Since his feeble debate performance, multiple polls have shown that both Mr. Biden’s approval rating and his chance of beating Mr. Trump have markedly dropped from their already shaky levels. In response, he has adopted a favorite theme of the floundering politician, insisting that the polls are wrong in showing that his presidency is historically unpopular.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/08/opinion/editorials/democrats-biden-truth.html
Fixed a few things I see differently JoJo:
> Mr Biden’s inability of campaigning vigorously, to disprove any doubts about his inabilities, has more than demonstrated His Inabilities to beat Mr. Trump.
> Biden has oddly maintained a scripted and controlled schedule of public appearances, for someone trying to send a message of competence in their ability’s.
> Mr Biden has also largely avoided taking questions from voters or journalists. Yet another sharp contrast, of somebody with confidence and vigor.
> For more than a year, voters have made it unquestionably clear in surveys and interviews that they harbor significant doubts about Mr. Biden’s physical and mental fitness for office. Mr. Biden has disregarded the concerns of those voters.
Just saying…
Would say… my bad.
It sounds like you are agreeing with the NYT’s call for Biden to step aside? Is this correct?
Absolutely, I wish to have a competent President R, D or I doesn’t matter. One that knows reality would be great for starters…
Pro tip: if you live in Flyover and see a Sunday New York Times showing up on a new neighbor’s driveway then know in advance you are dealing with a douchebag; don’t have to look in the garage for the Audi.
Pro-tip #2. If you see Avery walking around the neighborhood, be safe and call the police.
Mish, did you recently (as in today) change something about how ads are served on the site?
Like most, I run an ad blocker (adblock plus on Firefox). Normally it blocked annoying popup ads. But suddenly late this afternoon I am getting 2 pop up ads (one on left and one on right side) floating over the main text and the comments section. This is different from the tiny ads that are normally embedded and unobtrusive.
I’ve restarted Firefox several times and adblock plus is up to date but the are still there and if you try and close the floating window ads you get redirected to other sites.
Hmm, just added UBlock Origin and it fixed the problem. Apparently Adblock Plus isn’t good enough anymore.
My McAfee subscription (that I don’t have) has expired. Time for UBlock here too.
It’s poor form and classless to rub one’s use of an ad blocker in Mish’s face, don’t you think?
To answer your question in a previous thread, my parent’s place was in North Palm Beach on the intercoastal. A year and a half ago they were getting serious people offering to buy it for all cash. They didn’t want to sell because they couldn’t imagine living elsewhere but finally at 101 years of age they couldn’t take care of themselves anymore. They sold just to get it out of their hair and moved to Texas to be close to family.
Wow, congrats on them living to 101! My parents are late 80s and still living in the house I grew up in on a 1 acre lot a few miles outside a small city (50K). They hope to remain there for the rest of their lives.
I imagine all cash offers on intercoastal water would have been pretty high values indeed because waterfront here always commands high dollar. Surprised it dropped off so much unless it was because those earlier amounts were due to people fleeing lockdowns in NY/Boston etc.
Firefox with AdBlockPlus on my Ubuntu PC. No ads here.
ubuntu linux! kudos!
i’ve been running ubuntu on older apple HW for over 10 years – love it.
Thanks
I will look into this
Then the next candidte to drop out of the race should be Trump.
You’re just mad he didn’t grab your pussy.
Funny how Biden defenders, even in the face of obvious and serious mental degeneration, won’t talk about the 25th now. You guys need to go back to playing with your tinker toys.
You mean Cameltoe Harris.
He’ll be the next one accused of having Alzheimer’s (or Parkinson’s).
I would like to see a ticket with AOC and her favorite economist, Milton Keys.
You’re right in that Trump does not and will not look good opposed to Harris. Harris can beat Trump though I dislike both the Rs and Ds because they are destroying the country with their deficit spending trillions in debt that most of the country is oblivious to but the debt will rear its ugly head with much more inflation than it already has, to where everyone is forced to notice.
1-2 weeks.
should’ve happened last week+this past weekend…
…but Dems are feckless, incompetent & incapable of strategic thought or contingency planning.
the longer it takes to replace Joetato, the bigger DJT’s electoral victory+coattails will be.
He should have bowed out in late 2023.
true…
…but Joe Biden is a very special brand of a55hole.
even now, they will have to literally drag him out of the WH.
no class, zero dignity, supremely selfish.
Can Kamala legally hold Presidential office given she was born from 2 parents who were not citizens at the time she was born?
this is not even remotely in the discussion
Winston Smith tore “citizen” out of the dictionary and dumped it down the memory hole a few years ago.
Maybe Joe’s handlers are right.
Maybe he’s not too old.
Maybe his mental faculties are all there.
Or maybe he just SUCKS AT BEING PRESIDENT.
A degenerate criminal from the get-go.
Wrong Biden. It isn’t how long Joe can hang on. It’s how long Dr. Jill, Hunter and the rest of the gang can. Joe is just the giant floating head. The rest of them are the ones behind the curtain. The answer is: to the bitter end. I think it wouldn’t bother any of them to pull a Sampson either.
This is going to be some interesting political theater. This replacement of the Presidential candidate is not exactly Democratic of the Democratic Party. I have given up on the Democrats long ago and there behavior in 2016 and currently is cementing my views even further.
Apropos article here. I hope you’re right Carville!
After the Dems rigged the primary the first time they’ll do it the right way the second time…. Ya what whatever James. The primary was the time to castaway Joe and DEMS f’d it up royally. The powerbrokers in the Democrat party knew Joe’s mentally faculties were terrible and they shoved him on the ticket anyway. Now try and explain that to the American public. Dems are screwed and they know it. There’s no fixing this mess.
I still think the semi-corpse will be propped up, and win (by hook or by crook of course). Who else is going to automatically sign anything put in front of them without question? He is the perfect president for the deep state.
convention in Chicago.
must see TV.
Before the debate debacle, I was predicting something major would conveniently happen that would cause Americans to rally around Biden.
Remember Bush’s poll numbers after 9/11?
“What if” another 9/11 happened soon? Or a direct military confrontation with China or Russia?
Biden’s numbers would go from the 30s to the 50s. Just enough to push his corpse over the line.
9/11 happened in Bush’s 1st year. So he got support. If it happened right before the election? It would be pretty obvious and would likely cause people to move even further from the false flager in chief
Of course, no one wanted to pay for the Middle East wars in a responsible manner. So the 2001 tax cuts weren’t cancelled and no war tax was implemented. In 2003, there was another round of tax cuts and a new war front (Iraq).
A war with either Russia or China is a war that the US cannot win. At best it will be a phoney war with lots of chest beatings but if say a warship or worse an entire aircraft carrier group is sunk then how will the response be? And even in a phoney war the US still loses as no more essential rare earths from China, a collapse of the stock market and an instant depression.
Even the woke won’t vote for that as they don’t want to be drafted.
Ride’em Cowboy Joe! Never back down! Here is your one and only chance to leave a good legacy for yourself. Make those dems go crazy in their snake pit eating each other. Make them kill you.
If Biden won’t back down they may have to sic Hillary on him.
Battle of the Parkinson’s patients.
Friday…. if you did not listen or watch to the White House press interview today, you missed a lot. The media is going for the throat. Finally holding their leftist people accountable which they should’ve done four years ago. The media was sent out by the donors to start the attack. It’s over.
cant we just have utter democrat chaos at the convention first? I mean other than the Democrat created chaos in just about every city USA
I would also prefer this, but the money train has pulled away.
DNC will be an infomercial… 100% scripted, and possibly pre-recorded.
there will be no chaos/dissent… just professional-grade gaslighting.
Wacky wild option: A flatout stampede to RFK Jr. by the DNC: “Bobby, will. you. do. it?” By “it” of course, meaning “follow orders like the last two Democrat teleprompter obeying ciphers.”
It could happen.
Nah! RFK Jr has pissed off too much of the big Democratic donor constituency. Big Pharma, Big Tech, and the MIC to name the biggees. Plus the military and alphabet agencies seem to believe the only good Kennedy in a politically powerful position is a dead Kennedy.
Now putting this selection up to the actual voters might produce some unexpected results.
I had originally stated before, by August 1’st the latest, but I had not anticipated the speed of “Donor Withdrawal”
I don’t see him lasting more than a couple weeks at most. He does have money in his coffers, but they want that spent on a real candidate, and he isn’t the droid they are looking for…
I wanted to chime in to remind that it’s Biden’s own stupid fault that we have a VP as weak as Kamala. Biden said on live television during a 2020 debate that his VP was going to be a black woman and you damn well know they couldn’t walk that back.
So, Biden severely limited his VP choices by impulsively blurting something out during the debate. Dr. Jill was extremely against Kamala because Kamala went after ol’ Joe so hard in the democratic primary debates. Calling him out on his anti-bussing stance, among other things.
He should have gone with Val Demings – former cop from Florida.
I don’t think she’s weak at all, though I do fault her for, like Trump, supporting the Uniparty debt mongering and dollar debasement. She’s strong enough to beat Trump which I think the Democrats, as bad as they are, are catching on to.
This makes a lot of sense. Good job, Mish.
He will stay in the race till the end. He’s not gonna cap 60 years in government with a one-term failed presidency. And he cant win a second term if he doesnt run. And only 2-term presidents are seen by history as “successes.” And frankly, if the people want Trump instead, Im sure Biden will just say “they got what they deserved,” when little Mussolini turns the country upside down.
Brandon doesn’t know where the valet parked his corvette. He’s not cognizant of what the people want or need.
He won in 2020 .. and you didnt
Biden has to stay in so he can control the FBI,CIA and FARA administrators……
The guy has committed treason in Ukraine and China
With a name like Castelli you are obviously mafia and too afraid to leave New Jersey. How do you feel about having someone put you down with no evidence?
Is that you Joe?
There’s so much evidence of Joe getting kickbacks from Burisma that if he were a Republican he would have been impeached and convicted.
And yet, no evidence to be found .. except of course on Fox News
Forget about Biden that Sloopy video was the best
The longer Joe stays in, the less time the replacement needs to fend off the arrows.
Of course the DNC wants to control the outcome, and since Kamala has no chance against Trump, I still expect the one person who can say they beat Trump in the popular vote to magically reappear, especially since she already has her campaign paraphernalia ready.
Regardless, as the French are demonstrating, neither side will accept the results, which means massive civil unrest.
Don’t assume she has no chance against Trump. she only has to claw her way up to the margin of fraud.
Why did Trump call Georgia saying “Find me ten thousand votes.”? You don’t think that was an attempt at fraud? Plus, Harris is one of the best opponents against Trump, though both the Ds and Rs have been bad for this country.
In my view it doesn’t matter if House Plant Potato Man stays in or drops out. Trump wins regardless (that’s not an endorsement either). It’s always “the economy stupid”, and the economy is not good. If the economy were roaring with low inflation I think Trump would probably lose despite Biden’s clear impairment. Screwing with people’s pocketbook is a sure fire way to get yourself voted. The relevant question is, how will Trump handle an economy on the verge of or already in recession? How will Trump tame inflation?
Same way he handled muh Covid: “Free cha-ching! for everyone!”
Cuts! Anywhere and everywhere, like taxes (all sorts), Corporate incentives (all sorts), Climate Change, DEI, GMO’s, ETC.
he will pivot HARD away from green energy/fraud, and unleash cheap US hydrocarbons + tax incentives to encourage domestic re-industrialization.
the world’s productive capital will flood into the US. the US will enjoy job creation + economic expansion at a scale not seen since the 1950’s/WW2.
“by the way, I’m proud to be, as I said, the first vice president, first black woman… to serve with a black president.”
Joe Biden
Congress cannot remove the president. Only the White House staff, secretaries, and cabinet can remove a president. Every such person is a carefully selected boot licker.
Biden’s elected delegates who hold a 90% majority must vote for him on the first ballot at the Democratic Convention.
Biden cannot be declared insane or inane unless he takes a mental competency test. Jill won’t allow that. No neurologist nor psychiatrist will be allowed to examine Joe Biden. Professional medical ethics prohibit diagnosis without a personal examination.
Many Democrats will vote for dementia Joe. I recall one Democrat who declared he would vote for Robert Kennedy as he viewed the televised X-ray of a bullet lodged in Kennedy’s brain.
Congress can remove a President, for ANY reason. If the House says he should be impeached for whatever reason, they can impeach him with that mechanism. The definition of an impeachable offense is whatever the House says is an impeachable offense. It doesn’t need to be a broken law. If the Senate concurs, he’d be gone. I’m not predicting this (it won’t happen), but you know… AcTuAlLy.
Next, if Harris is on board with the 25th, then it just takes 1/2 the Secs + her. They don’t need a cognitive exam, they just need to state he’s not fit to serve (ie, they don’t need to prove or even declare he’s “insane”). If Biden “appeals,” the appeal is to Congress and they sort it out with a vote. If Congress agrees with Harris & the Secs, Biden is out via 25th. I think there’s a chance this will happen, *after* the nomination is officially conveyed to Biden/Harris. But the pressure on Jill to resign her Presidency will probably be enough once they demonstrate to her that they have the votes for the 25th, so she’ll likely accept her husband’s defeat at that point to spare him the 25th.
Joe isn’t dropping out of the race unless he drops dead. The threat of invoking the 25th amendment won’t make a difference. Invoking the 25th amendment would be a lot worse politically than standing behind him. Also, Kamala isn’t liked. Jill is making the decision as Joe doesn’t even know who or where he is the majority of the time.
“unless he drops dead”. That can be arranged.
Yep, now that I know the rules for the Democrats better, I agree with your analysis. I predicted earlier this year that Biden wasn’t going to be on the ballot in November, and you laid out a plausible timeline for that happening. And put to bed the Ohio problem – the voters are voting for electors, not a candidate (wish more people understood that, and the fact that we have 51 presidential elections going on in November and not just one).
And Cackling Kamala as the nominee? That’s a joke. Even the Democrats don’t want her, as shown in 2019-2020. But hey, it’s “historic” isn’t it? Second part of my prediction was RFK Jr getting electoral votes, and that could happen with Harris as the nominee. Third part of my prediction was Trump winning. I think the powers that shouldn’t be are going to let that happen, now that he’s starting to sound more like George W Bush.
Kamala isn’t going to consider the 25th until her and Biden are the official nominees.
Why would she want an open convention? She’s a lock on replacing Biden as long as she waits until her and Joe are official. So she will. And then Joe starts feeling the 25th pressure.
It is amazing how many people will fight tooth-and-nail to become/remain President right at the onset of a inflationary depression.
Biden has no idea what day it is. He likes the attention and the trips to the ice cream shop like a child would. In a way, I feel bad for him. It’s one thing to rightfully get pissed at a leader who makes poor policy choices because he’s a fool, it’s quite another thing to get angry at a leader who’s clearly cognitively impaired. It’s the equivalent of electing a chimp as president and then getting pissed because the chimp flings it’s shit at passers-by and swings from the White House chandeliers all day. What did the electorate expect?
That isn’t an endorsement of House Plant Potato Man either.
One thing for certain Joe Biden is unable to hide in his basement to avoid scrutiny.
He has to appear in the public venue to make his case.
The longer this persists the longer general public gets to meet the real Joe Biden.
Biden fatigue going to set in really really quickly.
People will be covering their eyes and turning off the sound to avoid seeing or having to listen to him. They will come to think, how on earth did I ever support that creature.
I disagree. It’s now the basement strategy on steroids. He called in to MSNBC this morning. I don’t think he will do another interview on camera. He cannot answer questions without a cheat sheet. Too risky to show him on video.
I do have my doubts that it is Bidens own voice we hear when he is getting taped, more likely an AI version.
However he has to overcome peoples doubts and that can only get accomplished with live action. Press and enough Dems at high levels want him gone. He has lost the free cloaking device press had offered over past 4 years.
45% of voters would vote for a cabbage as long as it has a (D) next to its name. Cabbage in the basement, cabbage at a podium . does it really even matter?
Even people who vote for Cabbages have to get eats.
The issues are large and Biden has no answers.
Fact of matter whole Dem party has no answers.
Trump will win on pocketbook issues.
Working minorities do not care about much of anything as long as they can Feed and House their family.
All the Dems have done is hurt the people who put them into office.
These people do not forgive or forget so easily. They do not like being taken for granted.