Trump walked off a Meet the Press interview after being challenged to present evidence of voter fraud.
Trump on Meet the Press
When asked “where’s the evidence” Trump presented none. When pressed, he called Meet the Press White House Correspondent Kristen Welker crooked or stupid.
This is the same playbook forever. It’s all allegations but no evidence.
Trump is something like 0-50 in the courts.
Q: Why?
A: It’s a crime to lie to a judge. So Trump’s attorney generally don’t.
Trump’s lawyers never present solid evidence in real courts. Instead, they make absurd claims in the circus-court of public opinion.
Lies on No More Wars
Lost Not Stolen
Please consider LOST, NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election.
We are political conservatives who have spent most of our adult lives working to support the Constitution and the conservative principles upon which it is based: limited government, liberty, equality of opportunity, freedom of religion, a strong national defense, and the rule of law.
We have become deeply troubled by efforts to overturn or discredit the results of the 2020 Presidential Election. There is no principle of our Republic more fundamental than the right of the People to elect our leaders and for their votes to be counted accurately. Efforts to thwart the People’s choice are deeply undemocratic and unpatriotic. Claims that an election was stolen, or that the outcome resulted from fraud, are deadly serious and should be made only on the basis of real and powerful evidence. If the American people lose trust that our elections are free and fair, we will lose our democracy. As Jonathan Haidt observed, “We just don’t know what a democracy looks like when you drain all the trust out of the system.” Paul Kelly, “Very Good Chance” Democracy Is Doomed in America, Says Haidt, AUSTRALIAN (July 20, 2019).
We therefore have undertaken an examination of every claim of fraud and miscount put forward by former President Trump and his advocates, and now put the results of those investigations before the American people, and especially before fellow conservatives who may be uncertain about what and whom to believe. Our conclusion is unequivocal: Joe Biden was the choice of a majority of the Electors, who themselves were the choice of the majority of voters in their states. Biden’s victory is easily explained by a political landscape that was much different in 2020 than it was when President Trump narrowly won the presidency in 2016. President Trump waged his campaign for re-election during a devastating worldwide pandemic that caused a severe downturn in the global economy. This, coupled with an electorate that included a small but statistically significant number willing to vote for other Republican candidates on the ballot but not for President Trump, are the reasons his campaign fell short, not a fraudulent election.
Donald Trump and his supporters have failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate results significant enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 Presidential Election.
We do not claim that election administration is perfect. Election fraud is a real thing; there are prosecutions in almost every election year, and no doubt some election fraud goes undetected. Nor do we disparage attempts to reduce fraud. States should continue to do what they can do to eliminate opportunities for election fraud and to punish it when it occurs.
But there is absolutely no evidence of fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election on the magnitude necessary to shift the result in any state, let alone the nation as a whole. In fact, there was no fraud that changed the outcome in even a single precinct. It is wrong, and bad for our country, for people to propagate baseless claims that President Biden’s election was not legitimate.
Executive Summary
This Report takes a hard look at the very serious charges made by Trump and his supporters. The consequences of a president and a major party candidate making such charges are monumental. If true, our electoral system is in desperate need of repair. If not true, that must be said because such false charges corrode our democracy and leave a significant share of the population doubting the legitimacy of our system, seriously weakening the country.
Every member of this informal group has worked in Republican politics, been appointed to office by Republicans, or is otherwise associated with the Party. None have shifted loyalties to the Democratic Party, and none bear any ill will toward Trump and especially not toward his sincere supporters. Many of us have worked over the years in polling places as part of Republican Election Day Operations looking for the same sort of fraud and irregularities Donald Trump claimed in 2020. Such vigilance is entirely appropriate and must not be stigmatized as “voter suppression.”
Fraud, irregularities, and procedural deficiencies formed the basis for challenging the results in five of the six highly contested Electoral College battleground states of Arizona (page 7), Georgia (page 27), Michigan (page 36), Nevada (page 47), and Wisconsin (page 64). In Pennsylvania (page 53), Trump verbally attacked the elections as fraudulent, but his lawyers never filed such charges in court.
Of the 64 cases brought by Trump and his supporters, twenty were dismissed before a hearing on the merits, fourteen were voluntarily dismissed by Trump and his supporters before a hearing on the merits, and 30 cases included a hearing on the merits.
Only in one Pennsylvania case involving far too few votes to overturn the results did Trump and his supporters prevail. Repetition of these false charges causes real harm to the basic foundations of the country, with 30 percent of the population lacking faith in the results of our elections.
Post-election reviews and audits: In addition to the numerous legal cases, the six states conducted post-election reviews at the insistence of or because of the Trump allegations. This Report discusses those efforts, which also failed to support the allegations from Trump and his supporters.
After the dismissal of all 64 court cases and state reviews, Trump and his supporters have continued in the sixteen months since Joe Biden’s Inauguration with claims of a fraudulent election. Each has been refuted. ….
Lost Not Stolen Summary
- There is no evidence of any widespread misfeasance or malfeasance that would have affected the result of the 2020 Presidential Election in Arizona.
- Nearly all claims of voter fraud have failed, and no one’s vote was counted more than once.
- The Trump campaign’s claims about the Dominion voting machines were proven false by independent audits.
- The report from the now-defunct Cyber Ninjas has been debunked, and even it reaffirmed Trump’s loss and found 99 additional votes for Biden.
- All legal claims—about Dominion voting machines, ballot counting, mail-in ballots, voter-eligibility requirements, ballot drop boxes, and conduct by poll officials— failed.
The article is 72 pages long.
It refutes Trump’s 6 claims in Arizona, 5 in Michigan, 6 in Georgia, 5 in Nevada, and 5 in Pennsylvania.
In other words, the article refutes, point-by-point, every claim.
This effort was by republicans, not democrats.
Circus-Court of Public Opinion
In circuit courts, Trump backs down. Fourteen claims were dropped by Trump.
However, easily refuted fraud claims circulate constantly in the circus-court of public opinion.
An Amusing Case in Pennsylvania
Please consider The Third Circuit Court of Appeals, DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, INC.; LAWRENCE ROBERTS; DAVID JOHN HENRY, Appellants v. SECRETARY COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA; ALLEGHENY COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
The Trump Presidential Campaign asserts that Pennsylvania’s 2020 election was unfair. But as lawyer Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign “doesn’t plead fraud. . . . [T]his is not a fraud case.” Mot. to Dismiss Hr’g Tr. 118:19–20, 137:18. Instead, it objects that Pennsylvania’s Secretary of State and some counties restricted poll watchers and let voters fix technical defects in their mail-in ballots. It offers nothing more.
The Campaign tries to repackage these state-law claims as unconstitutional discrimination. Yet its allegations are vague and conclusory. It never alleges that anyone treated the Trump campaign or Trump votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or Biden votes.
Nor does the Campaign deserve an injunction to undo Pennsylvania’s certification of its votes. The Campaign’s claims have no merit. The number of ballots it specifically challenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000-vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud or that any votes were cast by illegal voters. Plus, tossing out millions of mail-in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate and upsetting all down-ballot races too. That remedy would be grossly disproportionate to the procedural challenges raised. So we deny the motion for an injunction pending appeal.
How Ridiculous Is That?
This case was appealed despite the fact that Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign “doesn’t plead fraud. . . . [T]his is not a fraud case.” and the number of votes challenged was far less than the 81,000 margin of victory.
The remedy Trump sought, to throw out all mail-in ballots, was nothing less than an attempt to steal the election.
By the way, that opinion was written by written by Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee.
Spotlight Rudy Giuliani
Rudy Giuliani had his law license permanently revoked in both New York and Washington, D.C., due to his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.
The court found he repeatedly made false, misleading statements while pushing baseless claims about the 2020 election on behalf of Donald Trump.
The justices determined he deliberately intended to deceive the courts, the public, and actively contributed to national strife.
Every Case Is Similar
Trump says one thing in the Circus Court and another thing in the Circuit Court with real judges.
Giuliani eventually stepped over the line with ridiculous lies and was disbarred.
The rest of the cases were tossed when lawyers wisely refused to lie to judges in real courts.
Question of the Day
Q: Will this change anybody’s mind?
A: Likely not
It certainly will not change the mind of a single die-hard MAGA believer. They are duty bound as a member of the cult to believe any damn thing Trump says no matter how obviously stupid or contradictory.
Q: So what’s the point?
A: I am pleased to provide one comprehensive rebuttal to every preposterous election claim that Trump has made.
When claims of fraud arise, just send them a link to this article.
Effort to Steal the Midterms
To anyone not brain dead, it’s obvious Trump wants to rig the midterm elections.
That is the real purpose behind The Save Act.
That is what’s behind Trump’s appointment of Bill Pulte as his acting Director of National Intelligence after Tulsi Gabbard resigned was forced out.
On June 5, the Wall Street Journal reported Trump Urges ‘Less Shackled’ Pulte to Fire Intelligence-Community Employees
Trump stunned many of his own advisers when he said earlier this week that he was appointing Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, as his intelligence chief. The move was met with skepticism from some Republicans on Capitol Hill, who raised concerns about Pulte’s lack of national-security experience.
The president named Pulte director of national intelligence on an acting basis, a temporary role that doesn’t require Senate confirmation. He can serve in the role for 210 days.
Trump, in the interview, argued that Pulte’s acting status is an asset. “You’re less shackled,” he said. “It sort of gives you more power, you know, for a somewhat limited period of time.”
The president said he hopes Pulte can begin making changes across the intelligence community before a permanent intelligence director is confirmed.
“Frankly, it might be good for him to shake it up before people come,” Trump said. “Because, if he [Pulte] reduced the size, in conjunction with me…and in conjunction with possibly the person coming in…he can do a lot of the hard work and we wouldn’t have to saddle somebody that goes in.”
Pulte is one of the least qualified Trump appointments ever. But he is perfect for the job.
Q: Why?
A: He will bend over backwards, even break the law, to do whatever Trump wants.
If you don’t see the threat here, you are a MAGA cultist.
Trump Issues Order Against Mail-In Voting. Supreme Court Will Strike It.
On April 1, 2026, I commented Trump Issues Order Against Mail-In Voting. Supreme Court Will Strike It.
Here’s another set of silly Executive Orders about to be blasted sky high.
Once again, Trump is wrong. Expect an appeal.
The Brennan Center for Justice issued a brief on April 8, 2026, Analyzing the President’s Executive Order on Mail Voting
This bid to seize control of mail voting would wreak havoc on elections and harm American voters.
Last week, President Trump issued a new executive order that aims to illegally rewrite the rules for federal elections. The principal thrust of the order is to charge the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) with determining who may vote by mail and instructs it to refuse to deliver ballots sent by anyone not included on newly created federal mail voter lists. It threatens criminal penalties for election officials, mail carriers, and others who send ballots to or deliver ballots from individuals the administration deems ineligible. Perhaps to facilitate this usurpation of state and federal laws governing mail voting, it also orders the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to compile lists of voting-age U.S. citizens in every state, using incomplete and unreliable federal data sources.
If implemented, the executive order would inject chaos into our elections, block eligible American citizens from voting, undermine voter privacy, and expose election officials and others to criminal prosecution simply for doing their jobs.
Federal Court Hears Challenge to Trump Executive Order
On June 2, the League of Women Voters reported Federal Court Hears Challenge to Trump Executive Order Restricting Mail-in Ballots
A federal District Court heard arguments today in a lawsuit challenging President Trump’s March 31 executive order concerning mail-in voting. Plaintiffs argue that the order violates the US Constitution and federal law and risks mass disenfranchisement of eligible voters.
The Constitution makes clear that only the states and Congress can set the rules for elections. Nevertheless, the executive order attempts to override states’ mail-in voting laws by transforming the US Postal Service from a neutral mail carrier into an arbiter of who may cast a ballot by mail. The order also requires the Department of Homeland Security to build and give to each state a purported list of US citizens over the age of 18.
Plaintiffs asked the court today for a preliminary injunction to block implementation of Section 3 of the order, which directs the Postal Service to create unlawful new rules for the transmission of mail-in ballots.
“The Constitution is clear: the states and Congress — not the president — set the rules for our elections. The Trump administration is attempting to seize that power for itself with an unlawful and dangerous executive order. The order is already interfering with plaintiffs’ essential work helping American citizens vote,” said Attorneys representing the plaintiffs. “Together with our courageous clients, we’re seeking a preliminary injunction to stop further chaos in our elections, uphold the rule of law, and protect the millions of citizens who rely on mail-in voting, including people with disabilities, students, rural voters, and the elderly. We won’t let the Trump administration continue to trample on the fundamental right to vote.”
Unless that executive order is tossed, Trump will steal the election.
For now, I am 95 percent confident the court will strike that order.
I am less confident that rouge USPS workers will not delay or destroy ballots from known-to-be-blue cities.
With that, I repeat my Save Act warning.
The SAVE Act
President Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson, and Utah Senator Mike Lee are spearheading the SAVE Act.
It’s presented as a fair elections measure. In reality it is a blatantly unconstitutional act that would give Trump ability to steal the election.
Republicans tout the act’s Voter ID provision as if that is all the bill does.
I propose but without overwhelming conviction, that even if it passed, the bill is so obviously unconstitutional, the Supreme Court would kill it.
Three Reasons the Save Act Is Unconstitutional
On March 4, I commented Three Reasons the Save Act Is Unconstitutional
The SAVE Act won’t pass, and that’s a good thing.
On March 11, I noted SAVE Act Silliness: Trump’s “Go for the Gold” Killed It
The SAVE Act is unconstitutional. Trump want to make it worse. Only fools think they know more than Thune.
The Save Act will die because it is not a budget item so it cannot be passed in a budget resolution with just 50 votes.
Moreover, there are a handful of Republican Senators with enough backbone to prevent it. The fallback position is my assertion, hopefully untested, that the Supreme Court would strike it.
Polymarket has the Odds of Save Act Passage at 8 percent, down from 33 percent in February.
Eight percent is about right and that’s what I thought in February.
Regardless, all of these actions by Trump are designed to steal the election.
Three Predictions
- Trump will continue his efforts to steal the election all the way through the election and beyond.
- He will fail to steal the election
- There will be a Republican bloodbath in November
Number one is 100 percent likely. It’s ongoing and obvious.
Assuming number two is correct, I am 85 percent confident of number three.
he’s not wrong.
He is…literally…wrong.
I agree with Trump the press is stupid. Why would you continually interview a person who continually lies, is belligerent, and arrogant? What is the point? He never provides any believable information. The interviews really only provide headline shock value. It is the equivalent of a train wreck. The shock wears off after the first hundred interviews and we are now into the thousands.
The best thing they can do is just stop.
I think you’re missing something. We had a lady in Australia (her name was Pauline Hanson if you want to check up on what I am saying) who was very controversial and had a measurable effect on politics. All the priestly classes (people who live by deception) hated her. A lot of ordinary people who take their cues from the priests hated her. BUT the media types still hung around her, because she was good value for them. As an innocent sort of fellow myself, I was a bit shocked when one of her best local contacts mentioned to me that she had gone out nightclubbing with her media pack following a visit to our city in which they had condemned her as usual.
Trump is good value for your media simply because he is an outside phenomenon: he isn’t someone whose values and manners have been produced in the same sick university culture that has produced the media themselves.
“You’re Either Crooked or Stupid”
Trump Projection.!
Why do we have to choose? Why not both???
Jenna Ellis was in the room with them on election night, and testified under oath that they completely fabricated the story of election interference as a way to save face. They made a conscious decision to undermine the public’s trust in elections and democracy. There never was, and never will be, any proof because it’s not true.
What’s left of her? Everybody Trump touches is either sexually abused or otherwise severely damaged. It was sad to watch her make a complete and total fool of herself. Did she learn anything. Not one God damned thing. A total MAGA fool.
People who still support Trump are either crooked or stupid, or perhaps both.
It seems off that in her follow up, she would blame it on the rain. I hope to see the next interview. Trump didn’t even know what network she was from.
Also intresting that he got up and hobbled off like an extremely old, fat man.
It was even softball stuff for the most part. He totally lost his shit like he did in the debate with Kamila. Harris had him babbling about immigrants eating pets within ten minutes. Welker remained composed and articulate as Trump melted down because he can not produce any evidence of voter fraud. NBC should go after him the way FOX goes after democrats so Americans are more aware of what they are dealing with.
Cover Trumps lies HARD ~ every day!
rent free trump zone.
She was willing to blame it on the rain to get another crack at blowing his lid
What!?! No one’s going to call it “The Big Lie” anymore?
Are there other lies? Is it too confusing to rank all of his lies?
But there isn’t any confusion who I am referring to…
when I call him King Chaos the Shit Talker…
is there?
The pedo octogenerian in chief is looking relatively healthy! He was able to muster up enough energy to rage for at least a couple minutes
His skin is so radiant it powers the Sun
The view from the ambulance– CHF and AAA
he doesn’t have long
https://nicholasjorcutt.substack.com/p/im-trained-to-know-when-someone-is (dying)
Thx, valuable share.
I read Robert Reich’s opinion and he is correct (I am 79), that Trump, me, and Robert have no place in government, or anywhere near the nuclear codes. Trump needs to step down and give the reins to Vance.
Shifting to Vance is like shitting in your pants and changing your shirt to get rid of the stench…
Vance didn’t want the Iran war.
The Israelis would never allow it, unless they have some blackmail material on Vance.
Do you still believe the story about the President and the nuclear codes? I liked Reagan, but I stopped believing the story when he was President. I didn’t believe responsible military officers would let him carry something like a button to launch a nuclear war around with him at his age.
I don’t think a responsible military officer should have let a twit like Jimmy Carter have it either. You could give him a dummy to keep him happy.
It’s outrageous, egregious, preposterous.
Meet the Press was all over the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Err.., OK, they blew that one, but were all over the Biden dementia story.
Err,…OK, they blew that one, but they were all over the bogus Russian collusion story.
Err,…OK, they blew that one, but they were all over Biden’s and Rochelle Walensky’s nonseical statements about COVID19.
Er,…OK, they blew that one, too.
Well, they really do suck.
And your point is? Or is this post simply meant to distract from Trump’s failure?
Sorry they are such meanies to your Mango God
just spending the money: Trump considers buying Chagos IslandsUS officials draw up proposal to bypass Britain and make its own deal to take control of Diego Garcia
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/06/07/white-house-plan-chagos-islands/
Petulant old bugger just lost it. Just hit a wall. amazing how the tone changed to just acid, the words shortening to gruff monosyllabic playground insults. It started with him repeating that “people were destroyed” like, a half dozen times or so, in reference to the weaponization fund. No names, no specifics, no evidence, just slogans started spewing forth. He was fading, from there, and just spiraled.
Trump’s Ballroom ‘Donors’ Have Already Netted Billions
You didn’t really think they coughed up the dough because they were gaga for a gold-plaited ballroom, did you?
There is so much hand-wringing over a process, VOTING, that presents Candidates that are backed by HUGE money (Donations) and then those individuals MAKE PROMISES that are nearly universally ignored when they take the jobs.
It is insane to continue doing something that is simply a waste of energy and mind-space.
I despise Judas Trump. But the 2020 election was rigged in all manner of ways.
All of the court cases were dismissed on crap like “standing”, avoiding looking at the evidence presented. 50% of Biden votes were by mail! Most with zero verification of anything. Democrats have long known mail-in ballots are an open invitation to cheating and used to talk about it openly–Jimmy Carter for instance.
The polling places shut down–only in battleground states–about 10 PM (when has that happened before?) with Trump ahead. And then oddly opened back up at 3 AM, and presto, Obiden is ahead.
The CIA put their heavy evil hand on the scales of the election, most obviously via the 50 who signed that the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation, but also in other ways. The FBI did a very similar thing, causing the censoring of the truth about the Hunter laptop when they had it and knew it was valid.
If the illusion of a republic is to persist, we need voting in person with paper ballots and one day to vote (with one early vote day the Saturday previous)
58% of Biden’s vote was by mail. According to Pew Research:
The 2020 voting experience: Coronavirus, mail concerns factored into deciding how to vote | Pew Research Center
Do you remember the Orange God telling his people to avoid mail-in ballots….. as he was voting by mail in Florida.
Most voters in Florida voted by mail due to coronavirus. Trump overwhelmingly won Florida. Fraud?
so?? this amounts to saying 58% of Biden votes were legal votes.
voting by mail is perfectly legal. so how is evidence of this evidence of wrongdoing?
Biden voters, more concerned about covid, were more likely to vote by ail instead of standing on line sometimes for hours. so of course Trump said voting by mail was fradulent. if his voters voted by mail, he’d say in person voting was fraudulent.
so what?
You are the one who is forever going on about red team vs blue team elections. I would think you would want fair elections and elections that are very transparent [the opposite of 2020]. I don’t know that it matters much. But I’m appalled that one as sharp as you would not perceive all that was wrong with the 2020 election.
Except that the 2020 by all accounts was very fair and transparant. Except according to accounts that never present any evidence.
2020 was the most litigated and investigated election in history. Who do you think you’re fooling with that crap?
And of course Trump tried to steal that election a hundred ways to Sunday, starting with demanding counting be stopped and he be declared winner with millions of votes out, trying to put a non-qualified toady in at DOJ, pressuring his VP, legislators, and state officials, and having his cronies sign phony elector certificates.
Transparently coup-plottery.
When someone disagrees with your incorrect claims it does not make them stupid, Brutus. We can go at this all day if you want to be willfully ignorant.
The 2020 polls showed Biden winning by more than he did.
So wouldn’t it be more likely any vote tampering favoured Trump?
Is it possible that COVID may have shifted many millions of votes from the polling place to the mail? Or do you simply deny everything that breaks your narrative?
So what? Break down for us in baby steps why mail-in ballots are presumptively invalid.
you’re brainwashed. it was thrown out on standing because those bringing the case simply had no way to ask the court throw out the votes of tens of thousands, and in some cases millions of people. you cant’ go to court with 6 envelopes that supposedly are incorrect and ask the judge to throw out 80,000 votes. it’s idiotic.
and the whole thing made no sense. Trump won in 2016, lost in 2020 but then when Dems were in power they couldn’ fix the 2024 election? they fixed an election when they were not in power, but couldn’t do it when they were?? not how power works.
in Pennsylvania they gave the state a list of a few thousand people supposedly dead or unable to vote and the state tracked them all, and every single one was eligible to vote and none were fake votes.
Arizona had what, 4 audits all directed by a hge majority Republican officials? the last audit was by a firm where the head of it was a Trump supporter. Dems said he was hopelessly conflicted etc… and it turned out he did his job and found no issues with the vote or vote count.
who cares about Hunter Biden laptop? was that story kept under wraps?NO. it was front page news for weeks, covered by countless outlets.
if you don’t know what words mean stop using them– censorship means government stops stories from being published. the Hunter laptop story was not stopped from publication.
now Trump’s back in power had access to eerything and still ZERO evidence of election fraud. His former pick for AG, Bill Barr found no evidence of fraud. His current head of FBI hasn’t found any evidence either.
stop with this idiotic noncnse. massive fraud across dozens of states and hundreds of districts and not a single piece of non-idiotic evidence?
The Hunter laptop story was very strongly suppressed, at the direction of the FBI. You were not allowed to share it on Fakebook even. Have you forgotten what a Nazi-like vibe we lived under in the Covid dystopia? The truth was suppressed and cancelled. Lies were rewarded by the powerful, including the deep state under that cockroach Trump.
2020 was the year of extreme BLM/Fauci dystopia where the truth was called disinformation…but the election with 10s of millions of mail-in ballots was squeaky clean. Right.
Again, none of the court cases were dismissed because the evidence was weak. They were all dismissed over standing, because judges didn’t want to get their hands dirty and be accused of being politically incorrect.
There was no need to fix the 2024 election because the Epstein class had secretly enlisted Trump to be their main pimp, either with Neocon money or a Mossad gun to his head. There are not meaningful differences between Judas Trump and Chuck Schumer.
In reality, most of the cases were dismissed because the “evidence” was garbage, and many judges ripped Trump’s lawyers over it.
Your claims about why judges ruled against Trump–10 of which were Trump appointees–has no basis in reality and you can’t back them.
Your “proof” comes down to the election could not have been legit because lots of people voted by mail. That’s one of Trump’s many lies too.
Trump “Truth” Serum, doing its best work
least we forget the chads https://vimeo.com/1050224184?fl=pl&fe=sh
How many votes were stolen?
5 or 8?
Why would you expect me to know that? I provided easily verifiable points that argue against your conclusion that it was a squeaky clean election, but it isn’t an area of study for me. 50 million mail-in ballots with no/scant verification sure make cheating easy. And there were a plethora of irregularities testified to formally.
And then there is this: Do Democrats have any tendency to cheat? What about when the candidate they oppose is said to be worse than Hitler?
Just on the basis of the behavior of the CIA and FBI (theoretically under Trump in 2020 but absolutely his enemy), 2020 was not a fair, honest election.
Your “points” were a slew of false claims plus your feelings.
“Irregularities” aren’t fraud, and you likely couldn’t even name one.
Dems cheat? That’s odd considering if you go to the Heritage Foundation’s database, you can see most of those charged with voter fraud in 2020 were Republicans.
Stuck on stupid equals joining realitypollock in blocklandia
Same retreaded lies and disinfo pushed for over 5 years. No evidence was ever presented in court or elsewhere. Thirty courts held hearings on the merits and none of the cases alleged fraud.
*Twenty were dismissed before a hearing on the merits. Fourteen were voluntarily dismissed by Trump’s own team before any court could rule, meaning Trump’s lawyers did not believe their own evidence was sufficient to survive judicial scrutiny. Thirty were heard on the merits.*
https://therationalleague.substack.com/p/crushed-mics-and-empty-hands-the
Oh, and I should add that polling places did not shut down either, much less in battlegrounds states. That’s another lie you can’t back. And that lie is so easily crushed it’s hard to fathom anyone but the intetionally deluded making it. Votes were being counted during the hours you pretend places were closed.
Biden went ahead in WI, MI, and GA when mail-ins or ballots from the largest metro counties–all heavily blue–were counted and reported. Biden did not take the lead in PA for 4 days. Biden led nearly all night in AZ.
Maybe better we require every citizen to report to a polling place to conduct a census every four years. Maybe give a month to report in person, vote if you want but report you must. Exceptions for the usual with census workers visiting those with legitimate excuse for not reporting in person.
I wonder what the US would look like if 90+% of citizens actually voted.
“But the 2020 election was rigged in all manner of ways.”
If only it were possible to furnish evidence that did not get laughed out of court.
can you provide a list of the court cases that were dismissed through lack of standing?
I googled it but there never is an actual case cited.
Done with voting. I think there’s going to be some real privacy issues with it.
Best to just keep your head down, until there is a safer Administration (if there ever is again).
We will get voter fraud evidence at the same time as we get Russia Gate evidence.
Both parties need to stop the distractions from the real issues (note no one mentions things like the Epstein files anymore).
Both parties are largely peopled by the Epstein class or their sycophants.
That is a prefect argument for releasing them in their entirety.
I thought they were going to “Release the Kraken” What happened?
I don’t know why he still sits for interviews with the MSM. They try to get him every time and often succeed.
Every other president could handle talking to the press without pitching a tantrum.
He’s our first special needs president.
Yea I remember Biden going on Fox News all the time and not using flash cards so he would only call on friendly reporters.
He goes on MSM because he’s a circus entertainer. He needs the attention no matter where it comes from like a drug addict need heroin or crack. And like a drug junkie, he doesn’t care where the attention drug comes from as long as he gets his hit.
It goes part and parcel to his mental illness, deviance and cruelty.
This was not an extraordinarily baiting or combative interview. To the contrary. Try listening to the actual interview. It wasn’t straight up softball, but no big thing at all. Listen to Nixon interacting with the press, for example.
That line of argument reminds me of Trump in this interview asserting that Jan 6 defendants pleaded guilty simply because they were scared. This is the big adult world where in certain circumstances you have to stand up for yourself and not just shift blame, as most every guy in prison does.
Suppose we used Charlie Munger’s logic of “always invert”?
OK, so what would Trump have to do to get removed from office?
Drop his pants and expose himself? Physically attack an interviewer? Murder somebody in broad public view?
Tell me !! (one big exception: No Open Remarks about Jews, etc. You Know What I mean)
The only way he gets removed is if he does something that causes the plutocrats to lose alot of money or control
That would precipitate the investment in reprogramming the cult and general populace
Same goes for the blue team
Usa is full of spoiled, ignorant morons that are easily led around by the nose
Money quote.
Close every military base in Europe and Middle East.
Trump is a menace to decency and democracy
At this point it doesn’t matter why
I voted for Trump in 2016-reluctantly. Hillary was the architect of the destruction of Libya, the ISIS sponsored wars on Syria and a bunch of other stupid wars–while Trump ran as the candidate for peace, not more foreign wars. He repeatedly told us the Iraq war was a mistake.
Okay. I was conned. Trump was a fraud. So I voted for Kanye in 2020. If there was voter fraud in 2020, blame Trump. He was the architect and sponsor of the Covid psyop. He allowed lockdowns which spread all over the world. He was the proud author and father of warp speed. He allowed Fauci to be de-facto dictator. He allowed the 5 key states that determined the election to change their voter laws just a few months before the election, allowing widespread ballot harvesting, massive mail-in balloting (I believe over 30% of the total vote) which absolutely could not be verified and checked to determine whether fraud occurred in the very limited time after the polls closed and the mail-in ballots were then counted.
If there was fraud, this is where it would have occurred. His Justice Department did nothing to investigate such potential fraud, nor could it have effectively done so in the limited time after the election before the Supreme Court had to make their decisions. So if you want to cry that the 2020 election was stolen-blame Trump.
How the hell Republicans again nominated this fraud loser again in 2024 is beyond me. This decision was rigged. The elites decided to bring back Trump because they really wanted the Iran War and decided that only a Republican could pull this off. After all his stupid MAGA base and army of idiot Christian Zionists assured that he would have the support of the GOP. Harris could never have pulled off this war-nor could Biden have done so in his previous term.
Now we suffer the consequences. We have lost this war. And Trump cannot and will not back down. He is trapped. He will do what his handlers tell him. Epstein blackmail files and the $4 billion in profits and bribes he and his family have made in the past 18 months assure this. His handlers are Stephen Miller, Howard Lutnick, Jarod Kuschner, Witcoff and others will make the decision. Not to mention Bibi. And even they report to much higher authorities. Our only hope is that this team of real powerbrokers make the right decision to end this war. I don’t think they will do the right thing as this would be a major setback for their cause. The World will burn before they accept defeat. They could pull back and live to fight another day-but I doubt it. get ready. The shit may be about to hit the fan.
Good that you got wise.
Too many humans keep doubling down.
Libya folded on it’s own. Full stop. Wasn’t there something about her emailing some Libya info on her personal email? Trump and crew do this crap near daily and have total disrespect for the law. Hegseth revealed a bombing time from the Pentagon on a public chat!
“Libya folded on it’s own. Full stop.”
Wait, Libya bombed itself? Or the US just intervened, because?
Yes – We can all agree you were conned.
However it would be foolish to expect anything better – and having this Republican administration in power at the moment of critical mass of AI is incredibly dangerous- now we basically have hilter with an atomic bomb before anyone else.
History might judge Republican supporters – if there is history to be had.
Wow, you really do have all the answers, don’t you?
Today, Al-Jazeera reports that “the Pentagon has raised the risk of Israeli spying to the highest level.” And note that that’s Al-Jazeera: I suppose you think that is a noted Jewish site. Or maybe it’s a U.S. Establishment site.
I’m not prepared to believe that we live in a hall of mirrors where nothing is true. No doubt the secret police would like it if they could bring that about. But their narrative is still bedeviled with leaks.
I have to cut this short. I don’t think Trump is any kind of fool. I think all you people, the sort who dragged Nixon out of office, who laughed at Reagan all through his successful presidency (the only president since Andrew Jackson to be succeeded by his deputy without dying in office – or having to resign in Nixon’s case), are doing the same thing again. You’re the fools.
The mass-hysterical mugging of Nixon was at times troubling in itself. But Nixon vaguely usually played by most rules (retired lawyer here, having read at least a dozen books on it), and there is no reasonable comparison of that with Trump’s frontal assault on norms, rules and institutions. I don’t have to be a rabid Dem to assert that how you play the game does matter, even if the other guys push limits. Trump is pushing them off a cliff and, I fear, as a result, bringing a scary new Dem counter-majority in his wake. The system itself is gravely damaged.
Typical behavior for the deranged clown of dc.
Looking at it from the outside, but from having been a party worker in a very similar system in Australia, I still can’t be sure who to believe.
Who are these purportedly wise Republicans who denounce Trump? Newt Gingrich and Rand Paul were courageous enough to put their names to their comments, which as I recall it were on Trump’s side.
I wouldn’t trust ANY judges because they are the products of the educational system and are at the heart of corruption. A man of integrity should be out KILLING liars: he shouldn’t be sitting in a chamber intoning lies in an impressive setting. No doubt some of them are genuinely too stupid to see what they are doing: that is a feature of all religion. And as I have said many times before, education is the State religion of every country in the West, and teachers, journalists and judges are its priests. They lie: that is their job. I’m not as optimistic as Trump, and I think the only solution is for the soldiers (the men who live by force, not by deception) to take over for a while.
Which brings me to the journalists: they are the clever ones among the priesthood. They have to judge every day what can actually be put over on the public. The teachers work by endless repetition of stupid lies, and the judges work by intimidation and a pose of superiority, but the journalists have to judge what will actually work. When they don’t do their job well enough, you get a situation where elections go against what the priesthood want, as when Trump was elected. Obviously not all electoral officials are corrupt, or elections would never go against what the priests want.
Democracy can only work if the public are of a high enough quality. Stable civilization more or less ensures that an increasing percentage of the population will be of too low a quality. With such a population, the electorate won’t stand behind a good administrator in a reliable way, so you get these wilds swings back and forth as the electoral cycle proceeds.
Journalism had its beginning in a rebellion of ordinary people against being told lies by the then Christian priesthood of northern European countries. It wasn’t a dishonest occupation then, but it was a very dangerous occupation to be in. There are still a few journalists who take risks to find out what is really happening, and some of them pay the price. But this shouldn’t blind us to the reality of “professional” journalism in the Establishment press.
Similarly, education does still instill some real knowledge in the young. Religions don’t START OFF corrupt: they become corrupt as time goes on. Even Christianity was probably an intellectual advance in some ways on the polytheistic religions of the time when it was developed (emphatically NOT by a man named Jesus who mouthed platitudes to groups of admiring Jews in Palestine).
It is difficult to find anything positive to say about the third arm of the priesthood, the judges. Some of them may be just too stupid to know what they are doing.
Trump’s personal idiosyncrasies are well known. People elected him in spite of them. Unlike nearly all politicians, he gets things done, instead of just occupying the position. Live with it. You’ll get the usual hopeless creatures back again soon enough.
It’s funny you always post from the middle of the night in “Australia” for being a real “Australian”
I do get up early in the mornings. There’s nothing more to it than that. I am in the Eastern time zone in Australia. You’re welcome to think I’m somewhere else if you want to.
I remember when Australia was a fun and free country. Now it has speed cameras everywhere and is a virtual prosecutorial nightmare.
That shitstain Rupert Murdoch is from there and owned “The Sun” newspaper in Melbourne. It was basically a porn/sports tabloid featuring some slutty blonde named Samantha Fox and pictures of her clad in minimal outfits on a regular basis. The start of a publishing nightmare that has spewed more lies and propaganda than all the other networks put together.
The name Samantha Fox is vaguely familiar, but I may be too young to remember. In any case, I am a long way from Melbourne. I think I first heard of Rupert Murdoch when he launched “The Australian” newspaper. Is Fox News named after Samantha Fox?
One bright man I once knew said that “The Australian” was Murdoch’s conscience, and everything else he owned was cheap trash. It seems to me that “The Australian” has been getting pretty trashy lately, too. It is very much down on “anti-Semitism” without defining it. I just decided to stop bothering to buy it.
Wasn’t it Murdoch who had to close a long-established tits-and-bums newspaper in Britain a few years ago, after some sort of scandal? He’s almost a caricature of a press lord.
The sad truth is that Trump at the ripe age of almost 80 still doesn’t know the difference between evidence and lies.
Iran has just launched missiles at Israel in response to their attacks on Beirut
Israel’s National Security Minister says “Tehran must burn”, while Iran threatens that any Israel response will be met with even greater attacks.
I think we can say goodbye to the so-called ceasefire.
It was a phony ceasefire anyway.
Israel never stopped bombing its neighbors, never will, and the sooner all nations of Western Asia realize this and take action to defend themselves and put Israel back inside its borders, the better for all.
Classic propaganda. Accuse your accuser of what you are accused of doing.
There is certainly some fraud in elections and the evidence surfaces from time to time about ballots being counted without signature verification, late filed ballots, missing ballots, etc, but the evidence has not risen to the level of actionable proof that elections have been stolen. There is the famous aphorism attributed to Joseph Kennedy when he allegedly swung Cook County, Ill in favor of his son, “ I paid for a victory, not a landslide.”
If you dont understand that a plurality of our elections are rigged, and that ALL corporate media is controlled by The Evil Ones, then you are utterly clueless and a threat to our country.
He was right to act as he did
Election theft is COMPLETELY proven now
Any e ire. E to back up your claims?
Trying again: any evidence to back up those claims?
“Election theft is COMPLETELY proven now”
So, you are saying that Trump STOLE the 2024 election?
HOW HORRIBLE!
Its funny all those court cases. The lawyers could not give any evidence. Either trump and other politicians are lying. Or the dems are that smart. If they are you prob be better off voting dem.
You are the idiot we always knew you were.
Either that or provide the evidence.
Lol dummy 😂
Who proved it and in what forum? Certainly never in court, by Trump’s two hired commissions, by Trump’s hack lawyers, by Trump’s hack “auditors,” by state or election officials, or by Trump’s DOJ or FBI.
Do tell though. I’m sure it’ll be entertaining.
Our president is a weak, stupid tittybaby.
How ridiculous is it that California requires no ID to vote? As ridiculous as it would be for banks to require no ID to withdraw money from bank accounts when at the bank teller window.
California does not require an id to vote when you go to cast your vote. But California requires that you be identified before your ballot is counted. That’s why it takes California so long to release results. Ensuring that people are properly identified and are allowed to vote takes a lot of time. An important distinction.
Your first two statements are directly contradictory. The scribble on the electronic terminal for signature looks nothing like paper signatures, and furtheremore, people’s subjective “judgement” will see whatever they want to see to support “their team”. The whole process is flawed. The signatures at the polling places aren’t even checked, looking at the fact that the surge from polling place vote counts overnight is 60%+ of the vote.
If there was anything remotely like meaningful fraud by the method you propose you would have thousands of upon thousands of people trying to vote twice under the same name. It would be blindingly obvious. How can you be so dumb?
Why would you need to see a teller and present ID to withdraw money when you can withdraw all you want from an ATM with no ID?
At the grocery store also.
So he can bore the tits off her with his endless conspiracy rants, and she can’t escape because she works there.
Banks/FCU’s usually put limits on how much you can withdraw from an ATM in one day. I’ve had $500 and $1000 limits.
So does the bank when you make in person withdrawals. Try and take out more than 10K in cash and see what happens.
You can close your account at a teller and ask for a cashier’s check for the balace of the account WITH ID. Imagine if you could go in, just say “I’m Mark Zuckerberg”, and walk away with the check? Well, welcome to voting in California.
And polling stations cross your name off the list when you vote. How are you going to cheat that way at all? Makes no sense if you take 2 seconds to think it through. If there was widespread voting under false names you would run into thousands of people complaining that someone has already voted using their name.
Do not ask JoJo to think…
I vote by mail in ca. i get an email when the process my vote. If people who vote by mail start receiving multiple emails i assume they would report it.
Bottom line is this is just a continuation of republican voting restrictions. They feel the benefit because more people who vote dem would not be able to get to the poling stations due to factors like transportation or getting off work.
If Trump & his supporters do not win, then the election is rigged. If you believe that then Trump is a saint.
Disappointed with Trump over his war & inflation racket but this reminds me why I hate the left media. He mentioned evidence, undercover FBI agents herding tourists — I mean, insurrectionists — into the Capitol building after the Capitol police opened the colossal iron doors and just stood there, and she replied “that’s not true” which is an evidence-free claim.
So, its all very infuriating.
I hear there were Martians involved as well.
I would respond in a more intelligent manner to your post but I don’t know where to begin with your absurd and false claims.
Read the damn report.
I’s all fucking lies by Trump
That does not imply I like Democrats.
I like neither party and vote accordingly.
I wrote in Mish for President
Next time write in Jojo. That way I will get at least 2 votes!
The video footage that disproves that has been out for YEARS. If you haven’t seen it, you’re willfully ignorant.
Such is the way of the Trumpstien Simp.
Your logic is that Trump asserts something ludicrous and unsubstantiated that he claims to be a fact, she says ‘it’s not true’ which is correct, and somehow she’s providing an evidence free claim, not Trump.
You miss Mish’s correct point that Trump operates in the Circus Court of public opinion to sway people exactly like you, and not in the Circuit Court because the latter court requires real evidence, not bold, unsubstantiated assertions (BUAs). If trump had anything other than BUAs, he’d bring it to court, but he doesn’t so he can’t.
So, he falls back to BUAs in the Circus court because he’s got 30% of the country believing anything he says. You just proved that.
Then arrest the FBI agents. Trump has that capability.