Three Reasons the Save Act Is Unconstitutional

The SAVE Act won’t pass, and that’s a good thing.

Save Act Background

The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act is federal legislation that would amend the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) to require individuals to provide documentary proof of U.S. citizenship—such as a passport, birth certificate, or certain REAL ID-compliant documents—when registering to vote in federal elections.

States would be prohibited from accepting registration applications without this proof, and the bill includes provisions for alternative processes, voter roll purges, and penalties for non-compliance.

The act requires the voter ID to be the same as their birth certificate.

This places an extraordinary burden on women who would need a birth certificate and a marriage certificate to register to vote. Multiple divorces and remarriage is particularly problematic.

The act would be unconstitutional for three reasons.

1. Congress Lacks Authority to Impose Voter Qualifications.

The U.S. Constitution delegates the power to set voter qualifications—such as age, residency, and citizenship—to the states, with limited federal overrides via amendments (e.g., the 15th, 19th, and 26th Amendments prohibiting discrimination based on race, sex, or age).

The SAVE Act’s proof-of-citizenship requirement effectively establishes a new national qualification for voting by mandating documentation that verifies citizenship status, which exceeds Congress’s role under the Elections Clause. This clause allows Congress to regulate procedural aspects like how elections are conducted, but not who is eligible to participate.

In Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council of Arizona (2013), the Supreme Court struck down a similar state-level proof-of-citizenship requirement for federal elections, ruling it conflicted with the NVRA’s simpler attestation process.

By amending the NVRA to impose such a requirement nationwide, the SAVE Act is overreach.

2. Violation of the National Voter Registration Act and Supremacy Clause Issues

Although the SAVE Act seeks to amend the NVRA, it would conflict with the NVRA’s original intent to streamline registration and reduce barriers.

The NVRA requires only a sworn attestation of citizenship under penalty of perjury, and courts have invalidated stricter state measures as preempted by federal law.

Kansas’s similar proof-of-citizenship law, for instance, was ruled unconstitutional after blocking over 30,000 eligible voters.

The SAVE Act’s nationwide mandate could be seen as an end-run around these rulings, potentially violating the Supremacy Clause by forcing states to adopt federal standards that disrupt their own election administration without clear constitutional justification. This preemption of state processes, including online and mail-in registration, would impose unfunded burdens on local officials and expose them to legal risks, further straining the federal-state balance.

3. Undue Burden on the Fundamental Right to Vote

Voting is a fundamental right protected by the First and Fourteenth Amendments, and laws imposing severe burdens must survive strict scrutiny—meaning they must be narrowly tailored to a compelling government interest.

The SAVE Act would disenfranchise millions of eligible citizens who lack easy access to required documents.

Estimates suggest 21 million Americans don’t have readily available proof of citizenship, with disproportionate impacts on women (due to name changes), low-income voters, rural residents, students, older adults, and minorities.

Requiring in-person submission and excluding common IDs like student or state-issued cards adds barriers, potentially amounting to a modern poll tax if obtaining documents incurs costs (violating the 24th Amendment).

Non-citizen voting is already illegal and exceedingly rare (e.g., audits in Georgia and elsewhere found negligible instances), so the Act’s burdens far outweigh any demonstrated need, failing constitutional tests under cases like Anderson v. Celebrezze (1983).

Federal Power Grab On Voting Still Flunks Basic Civics Test

CATO reports Federal Power Grab On Voting Still Flunks Basic Civics Test

The Framers greatly feared that a president or ruling national faction might someday gain power over the administration of elections. The Constitution guards against this danger by placing primary responsibility for elections with the states, subject to a rulemaking power that Congress has wisely used sparingly. The proposed SAVE Act, which passed the House yesterday, and the broader MEGA Act would impose rash, perhaps even unworkable, new rules while arming the president with dangerous new powers to harass and menace localities and officials whose decisions on election administration are not to his liking.

There’s nothing wrong with voter ID—most states use it, generally with good results. But the SAVE Act and MEGA Act have little to do with that issue. They are fueled by alarms about supposedly widespread noncitizen voting and voter impersonation that simply aren’t borne out by the evidence. Their new demands for documentary proof of citizenship (DPOC) go beyond what almost any state has chosen to enact voluntarily and would impose serious burdens on both qualified citizen voters and administrators.

The bills expose local administrators to a risk of imprisonment if they fail to tick the right boxes even when no unqualified person in fact registers or votes. The new rules would take effect immediately, requiring states to set aside existing preparations for the 2026 elections and scramble to train staff and revamp data systems on the fly. They would abolish all-mail electoral systems that are popular out West, requiring many qualified, US-born voters to pay repeated visits to a distant county office if they hope to stay on the rolls. The acts give the federal government new powers of prosecution and discretionary regulation that would be highly susceptible to misuse, as well as empowering busybody or ideologically motivated private citizens to sue.

There’s more. The bill would force states to turn over voter rolls to these same federal overseers notwithstanding serious privacy concerns and the high chance of misuse. The broader MEGA Act even reaches out to ban the use of ranked-choice voting for federal races in states such as Alaska and Maine, even though there is zero evidence that such voting has caused any election integrity problems in those states. While election reform is most likely to endure when done with bipartisan support, the bills are, at this point, almost a purely partisan play.

Pressure on Senate Majority Leader Thune

The Fraud Scorecard

  • Utah: 1 registered, 0 voted, 2.1 million registered voters
  • Idaho: 36 “likely”, voted uncertain, one million voters
  • Louisiana: 390 noncitizen registrants, 79 of whom had voted in at least one election over the last several decades (out of 2.9 million registrants).
  • Montana: 23 possible noncitizen registrants (out of approximately 785,000 people registered).
  • Georgia: A 2024 audit found 20 registered noncitizens (out of 8.2 million registrations).
  • Michigan: The Macomb County clerk, Anthony Forlini announced to great fanfare that he’d found 15 noncitizens on his county’s voter rolls of over 724,000 registered voters. The incumbent secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, investigated the 15 files. Three were U.S. citizens, four were previously removed from voter rolls, four were under further investigation and four do seem to be noncitizens.
  • Arizona: In Maricopa County overseeing voter registration, there was a total of two possible instances of noncitizens voting out of some 2.5 million registered voters.

Synopsis

While the Act aims to enhance election integrity, its unconstitutionality stems from encroaching on state powers, conflicting with established federal law, and erecting discriminatory barriers to voting.

The purpose of the act is to disenfranchise women and minorities who tend to vote Democratic.

The act is not about “voter ID” or it would not be written the way that it was.

If enacted, the Save Act would likely face immediate legal challenges, similar to prior state efforts. Courts would swiftly strike the act.

If Trump tries to do this by Executive Order as threatened, there is a near 100 percent chance of swift court strike down, and the Supreme Court will not come to Trump’s aid.

Pressure is on Senate Majority Leader John Thune to remove the filibuster so the bill can pass. He is wisely resisting the temptation.

The bill would highly likely be struck down in the courts. Removing the filibuster has serious repercussion the next time Democrats hold the White House.

Trump’s Voting Claims Are False

Also see Trump’s Voting Claims Are False. So What Is the Save Act Really About?

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pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago

Do you really think there is a illegal voting problem in the US? This is just trump whining because he lost. Plain and simple, don’t be stupid.

Steve L.
Steve L.
1 month ago

Why should illegals be allowed to vote in our elections? The Red states you cited, actively work to keep illegals from voting. The problem is in the states that do not do this – the ones that go to court to block any Federal oversight.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve L.

Are you really this stupid?

realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago

21 million americans are unable to access their own birth certificates, marriage licenses, change of name requests, passports or licenses?

this claim is bullshit. you do understand that means that those same people can’t open a bank account, rent an apartment, buy a house, serve on jury duty, board a plane or get a job or buy a car. they can’t enter a federal building or courthouse.

Utter nonsense.

Fedupwithgovt
Fedupwithgovt
1 month ago

So much time and energy spent, and wasted on such a simple thing. The country easily dealt with simple problems like this for a long time. Now it can’t. It’s the sign of a failing society.

JCH1952
JCH1952
1 month ago
Reply to  Fedupwithgovt

It was already dealt with.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Fedupwithgovt

It’s not a failing society. It’s a failing President.

+888
+888
1 month ago

In France my country, student id and social security card are indeed not allowed however any state issued id with photos are accepted and for spouses they contains both the name and the birth name. People like Elon Musk point out that mail and early voting there is disallowed but elections always happen on Sundays and the labor code heavely restrict the ability of employers to request their staff to work on Sundays.

Registration is per poll office: you register to vote at a place and your re allowed to vote for your lifetime there. Reregistration is only required if you want to vote somewhere else.

Pro vote orgnizations are simply making sure everyone has photo Id in order to let peoples to vote.

Last edited 1 month ago by +888
Mark Petrey
Mark Petrey
1 month ago

TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago

Just a friendly reminder: No more voting once the AI takes over. AI will be considered sentient soon and will therefore likely be qualified to be able to run for office. Then, THE PEOPLE will vote for it with a strong majority because of the perennial gross dissatisfaction with all human politicians.

Mark Petrey
Mark Petrey
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

AI is alien to our Constitution and is such as used by government for surveillance un – Constitutional.

Mark Petrey
Mark Petrey
1 month ago
Reply to  Mark Petrey

The only reason a dog can lick it’s own ass is because it can – extrapolate that juxtaposition onto government.

This is the reason we have a written Constitution.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mark Petrey
Christoball
Christoball
1 month ago

Thanks Mish, you have corrected some of my residual bone headedness on this issue.

Voting machines and extended voting times and exteded bollot counting times are a bigger problem. Perhaps more numerous polling places would be more convenient, and place more eyes and ears on the process.

Last edited 1 month ago by Christoball
Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Great column, Mish. Very persuasive. What do you think about the constitutionality of, say, withholding federal highway funds from any state that refuses to use paper ballots with optical scanners?

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

THANKS

Commenter
Commenter
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Withholding federal highway funds is how the US govt forced Louisiana to eventually increase the drinking age to 21. Precedent exists.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago

Looks like the SAVE act won’t save republicans….

Arkansas flipped a red house seat blue…Arkansas!

And things not looking good in Texas for republican senate race.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/04/texas-latinos-turned-out-in-massive-numbers-for-democrats-talarico-00812807

The numbers were dramatic: In five different rural majority-Latino counties, more votes were cast in Tuesday’s Democratic primary than for Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election.

Trump screwed up big time with the Latino vote. Texas Latinos seem to be going all in on blue.

+888
+888
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

It depends where. Urban centers continue to turn blue.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
1 month ago
Reply to  +888

The article states “in five different rural…counties”, so not an urban context.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  +888

In five different rural majority-Latino counties

All that gerrymandering is going to backfire on midterms and beyond.

YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!

realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago
Reply to  +888

Dems love homelessness, crappy schools and crime so long as they don’t have it to see it themselves. LA, SF, Portland and Seattle are shining examples of this. Sadly.

CJW
CJW
1 month ago

Does the US not have enough problems to fix that they need to fix problems that don’t exist?

I think they should be more concerned with lack of turn out than too much.

basically 1/3 of voters don’t vote.

this legislation will push that number down considerably.

lots of people already see voting as a chore this is a good excuse to just stay home.

remember the adage, voting is a privilege and a responsibility?

lots of people don’t like that last part of the adage, and I think the common belief is that those people are young would be democrats.

So the real reason for the legislation is not to stop illegal voting but to discourage democratic voters..or so goes the republican way of thinking.

Any way to stack the deck right?

radar
radar
1 month ago

Simple, just amend the constitution.

JeffD
JeffD
1 month ago

You forgot to present the scorecard for California. Why, you may ask? Because they refuse to release their information to federal auditors.

Mike R
Mike R
1 month ago
Reply to  JeffD

Because they don’t have to because that is illegal. States are empowered to run their elections by that little thing called the Constitution.

California isn’t the only state to refuse to bow down to King Trump and the federal government. Plenty of red states are too, including Utah IIRC.

This is not a blue/red state thing, this is state vs federal government thing. And the states have the Constitution on their side.

realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike R

LA Times reported that over 70k mail in ballots were sent out to dead people. It took California over 10 years to fix it.

Wake up. Or maybe you don’t think it’s a problem even when one D is going against another?

rafterman
rafterman
1 month ago

Maybe if we would have enforced the law at the border for the last 20 years, we wouldn’t need to have the Save Act, but we all know why the law wasn’t enforced.

Now ere expected to believe that 1 in 15 Americans can’t get a Real ID

JCH1950
JCH1950
1 month ago
Reply to  rafterman

Where on earth are you getting the 20 years? The Texas border has been wide open since at least the Alamo. Because it was good for Texas businesses.

rafterman
rafterman
1 month ago
Reply to  JCH1950

OK, 15 million in the last 10 years per CBP. Yes the border was porous from 1836 (the Alamo) until the mid 1960’s, but when you came here you received nothing.

JCH1950
JCH1950
1 month ago
Reply to  rafterman

And that’s a bullshit fantasy number. At the end of Trump’s 1st term the population was around 12 million; at the end of Biden’s term the population was around 15 million.

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago
Reply to  rafterman

it was largely enforced, the problem is the laws are dumb, namely the asylum laws. which haven’t been fixed BTW.

rafterman
rafterman
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Key 2025-2026 Asylum and Immigration Changes:

  • Application Pause: A hold was placed on asylum applications from 19 countries in Dec 2025, expanding to 39 countries by Jan 1, 2026, notes the Asian Law Caucus.
  • Refugee Resettlement: The administration has suspended refugee resettlement and set historically low admissions caps, say the International Rescue Committee.
  • Work Authorization Restrictions: Proposed rules in Feb 2026 would stop USCIS from issuing work permits until processing times drop, which could take years, and increase the waiting period to one year, reports CWS Global.
  • Fast-Tracked Denials: Policies allow immigration judges to dismiss cases without a hearing if they are deemed “legally deficient” based only on initial paperwork, according to NPR.
  • System Overhaul: The administration is targeting “frivolous” claims, with plans to prioritize safety by strengthening screenings and reviewing all previous decisions, report the USCIS and HIAS. 
pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Not fixed because Republicans would not address the issue. They would rather have the political issue than solve the problem.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  rafterman

It took me five months to get a Real ID even though I had the requisite documentation. I’m in Minnesota, with our total clusterfuck of a state government. I already had a passport and a certified copy of my birth certificate. I’m surprised the figure isn’t way higher than 20 million. Getting certified embossed copies of birth certificates, marriage certs, name changes, etc. would be a massive and expensive undertaking – way more than a poll tax which was already declared unconstitutional.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

Took me no time at all. Sounds like all of MN government is dysfunctional.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Pretty much. When four months had elapsed, I went back to the government center (took a number and waited) and asked WTH was going on. They said “maybe there was a problem with your photo”, but then did not take a new photo and the ID got mailed to me a couple weeks later. I think I just had to complain to dislodge it.

Minnesota has a culture (from Scandinavia) that no matter how messed up something is, you shouldn’t complain. I think it’s related to the Law of Jante: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  rafterman

My wife was born in Germany in 1952 to parents that were refugees from Latvia who were not German citizens, she was stateless. In 1962 they immigrated to the US. In 1971 we were married and in 1972 she became a US Citizen. Her paperwork trail is nearly impossible to reconstruct going back to her birth certificate.

A better idea would be if every four years all Americans had to report in person to a local registrar. The census would be conducted and the person could vote if they wanted, this could take place between Oct 10th and Nov 10th. Of course exceptions could be made for those that couldn’t travel due to health or other verifiable reasons. The department responsible for the census could sent out employees to contact those exceptions.

In TN you must be registered and show ID like your drivers license in order to vote.

Last edited 1 month ago by pokercat
Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
1 month ago

The U.S. Constitution delegates the power to set voter qualifications—such as age, residency, and citizenship—to the states, with limited federal overrides via amendments.”

You are definitely right on that (though I’m skeptical that illegals voting isn’t a factor in the routine cheating–lots of evidence on the corruption of GA administration).

Yet I’m intrigued by this prissiness about the Constitution when the Supreme Ct has ruled most of that document unconstitutional. You know, like ‘only Congress can take the country to war.’ Or “No State shall…make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts”.

And voting matters? I can’t see that it matters except for a bit of change in the folks at the trough. Forever wars, forever growing spending and growing debt…The cancer grows without regard to how Mish votes.

Denis
Denis
1 month ago

Mish what is your solution to the voting mess that 80% of the population doesn’t trust.

Your claim the save act doesn’t solve the problem, then what would you do to solve it?
Besides saying there isn’t a problem

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  Denis
  1. No machines. Many other OECD have eliminated voting machines to counter even the suspicion of manipulation.
  2. Ensure timely voting tallies. No more results coming in 3 days later. Lots of other countries manage a same night vote tally.
  3. There really is a problem with dead voters, double voting, but especially jurisdictions with greater than 100% turn out.

Every one keeps saying it is statistically insignificant, but you cannot ascertain if this is so. There are lots of court cases featuring convictions, and every election has a slate of problems about ballot stuffing, ballot harvesting, statistical anomalies. Failure to remedy indicates an unwillingness (why?).

  • Because of the crazy winner takes all electoral college votes, points of leverage and vulnerability are created in minor districts that snowball into huge effects. Next to fraud, such voter pools are subject to manipulation and vote buying attentions.
  • Another circumstance enhancing the “statistically insignificant” argument is that there are only two parties, and in many cases it is hard to recognize a political culture with any differences to a one-party state.
Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago
Reply to  Denis

the solution is for Republicans to stop lying about it. Passing SAVE will NOT make the public trust it more. if Republicans lose, they will say well it was the counting of the vote that was rigged. or it’ll be that the systems were hacked.
You don’t engage with conspiracy theories because you literally cannot pacify them.

It doesn’t make sense to begin with, they just ran with it when Trump lost, so why would you expect that even sensible ID requirements would stop Trump from claiming it was stolen if Republicans lose.

Answer honestly: if SAVE passes, and Republicans lose big in the midterms, do you expect Trump and the loser to shrug and accept the losses?

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Exactly. Trump started complaining about elections, but if you ever go volunteer at a polling place, you’ll see how hard it is to cheat the system.

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago

This attempt to exact governmental over-reach to disenfranchise specific groups of voters without solving any actual problem is typical of the right wing.

Trump is also attacking broadcasters that have been critical of him through regulation. Interesting that the rich are waging such a war against the free speech and the poor.

Not really looking forward to the Mc Donalds Soylent Green Burger.

Vote Trump/Epstein in 2028!

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago

Trump will attempt to intervene or cancel elections somehow, the more it looks like he will lose to a blue wave the more the likelihood he uses ICE Gestapo, UFO announcements and self-declared emergencies or some other made up nonsense maybe even a false flag attack. Anything is on the table for desperate people.

Looking at the panic in UAE and surrounding areas all trying to get out when SHTF should be an eye opening event.

Got exit strategy? (Don’t wait till it’s too late).

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Problem with an exit strategy is especially illuminated with what’s happening in the UAE.

If you pick a country or even area the US is remotely interested in there is an excellent chance that same event could take place in wherever you exit to. Need to pick some spot the US is never gonna care about and there aren’t many of those and of the ones there are, most aren’t places you’d want to live.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Well clearly you didn’t want to live in Canada right? Lol.

Yeah, it all comes down to choices. Do you want to live in Full Nazi America or Full Woke America? That’s what you’re going to end up with at some point. That or nuclear fallout.

If you stay, here are four states you might survive in….”most aren’t places you’d want to live.”

https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/200973/safest-us-states-to-live-nuclear-war

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Simple: go where there are no Usonian bases.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

So all we gotta do is find someplace free from risk of American attack? Like maybe Neptune?

Christoball
Christoball
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

For sure Americans will be increasingly less welcome world wide because of this war.

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
1 month ago

Does not matter if its legal or not. Passes or not. The goal is to make it seem like there is massive fraud and the dems are responsible. To unite the base/ give reason to over turn or investigate any republic losses / distraction from the files./ spark a civil war or social unrest.

Darrell Harris
Darrell Harris
1 month ago

I can certainly understand the argument that the SAVE Act is Federal overreach into what is ultimately a state matter – even though SAVE applies to federal elections. What I don’t understand, however, is this statement: Estimates suggest 21 million Americans don’t have readily available proof of citizenship, with disproportionate impacts on women (due to name changes), low-income voters, rural residents, students, older adults, and minorities.

Where are these ‘estimates’ coming from? Because if they’re coming from the Brennan Center for Justice, there’s a problem with it. They got these numbers by randomly calling…987 people nationwide, then extrapolating that to get the numbers that this argument is based upon. They make a LOT of assumptions in getting to this number.

Here is the link: https://www.brennancenter.org/media/6697/download/download_file_39242.pdf?inline=1

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 month ago

Vance is underestimated and when Trump is swept away the real ideologues will be in charge. Vance is not the average glib self-aggrandizing politician, he is much more dangerous than that (although still glib). He has a well-structured belief system, and is part of a powerful faction that intends to implement it. I also see a much more competent politician (in terms of both PR and behind the scenes stuff) than most.
With a disintegrating Trump setting both the Middle East. I believe we will be seeing President Thielism soon.

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
1 month ago

Yup making vance vp was trumps deal with the Christian rt. They get a shot in four years. But Everyone who gets in trumps orbit loses in the end. Trump will either try a third term or even after his presidency he will try to control the party. Or burn the whole party down before hand.
Somewhere i recall hearing an author saying the culture wars were a response because know one wanted to vote republican after Nixon.

Ron
Ron
1 month ago

You’d think the USA could at least have the requirements of Burundi, Somalia, or South Sudan. Is it really that hard?

njbr
njbr
1 month ago

The problem for the GOP is that noone has any idea which party will be more disadvantaged

Speaking of unknowns Pentagon says Shaheed drones are a problem they hadn’t anticipated

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  njbr

After Ukraine loaded up an 18-wheeler with drones, had some Russian clueless guy drive them to the delivery point and then unleash them on multi-million dollar Russian military jets, it makes one wonder why Iran doesn’t done the same with the USA’s electric grid, petrochemical complex, dams, or other high value military targets. Israel would be much harder with all the checkpoints but clearly Hamas got through at some point.

Just wait till AI starts giving the clueless Joe ideas for mass destruction with pennies on the dollar.

Got exit strategy?

Last edited 1 month ago by MPO45v2
Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Our economy is sooooooo large and diverse they could unleash a drone swarm or two and it would be a rounding error.

Mayhem is this administrations favorite thing!

Think how many countries we could take over if a drone swarm event happened? Heck there might even be a nice false flag event captured real time by Fox News!

😉

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  Frosty

That’s fantasy. Without electricity or refining capacity the economy grinds to a halt. Look at the KOSPI, they rely mostly on oil from the Straits which is why their market is crashing. Heck during COVID, the whole global economy almost came to a total crash and that didn’t involve a single bomb.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

The fact that the US wants Patriot and THAAD missiles back from South Korea to defend Israel probably doesn’t help. The South Koreans may figure out that the US only wants them as an implement to use against China.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Iran is hitting Israel hard with drones and missiles already. Israel censors heavily and the US media is Zio-controlled. Once Israeli and American interceptor missile stocks have dwindled low enough, Iran will bring out the good stuff. They’ll be destroying the desalination plants in Israel and probably some of the Gulf States. The big question is whether Israel will use nukes. I’m sure they would have no compunction, but can they be dissuaded by a credible threat of nuclear retaliation by, say, Pakistan or even Russia?

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