Protests based on the “California Values Act” which limits state cooperation with federal immigration authorities are underway.
Hundreds of people demonstrated around the California Capitol on Monday to urge the Legislature to try to stop Trump’s mass deportation plans. They carried banners that said “Not one cent for mass deportation” and “MAGA out of California.”
Deportation Resistance
Gateway Hispanic reports States Resist Trump’s Mass Deportation Plans: California, New York, Maryland and Colorado Push Back
In response to former President Donald Trump’s mass deportation plans, states like California and New York have been vocal in their opposition, asserting their authority to protect immigrant communities from federal enforcement.
California has long been at the forefront of this resistance. Under Senator Alex Padilla and Governor Gavin Newsom, the state has emphasized its commitment to shielding immigrants, particularly through Senate Bill 54, the “California Values Act,” which limits state and local cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
Federal Clash
The conflict has raised significant questions about the balance of power between federal and state governments. Trump’s mass deportation agenda, which seeks to ramp up enforcement, clashes with the policies of these states that prioritize immigrant welfare. California and New York argue that they should have the discretion to create policies that reflect their values of inclusion and protection for all residents, including undocumented immigrants.
California and New York can argue all they want, but Federal law trumps state law on this issue.
Eagle Pass, Texas Revisited
On January 12, 2024, I discussed Texas National Guard Seizes Eagle Pass Park to Stop Illegal Immigration
Over the objection of the Eagle Pass mayor, governor Abbott seized a public park that borders the Rio Grande river.
Governor Abbott placed 29 miles of razor wire only to have the Biden administration remove the wire.
On January 22, I commented Texas Showdown, Supreme Court Lets Feds Cut Abbott’s Razor Wire
In a 5-4 ruling, the Supreme Court sided with the Biden Administration. Federal authorities will cut the razor wire and open the illegal immigration floodgates.
But in an appeals ruling on November 28, a US appeals court ruled Texas has right to build razor wire along border at Eagle Pass.
This seems more than a bit bizarre that an appeals court apparently overrules the Supreme Court.
But it appears Texas tried again with a new angle based on safeguarding property as opposed to setting immigration policy.
CBS Austin reports U.S. appeals court rules Texas has right to build razor wire along border at Eagle Pass.
In its official ruling, the court says Texas is entitled to a preliminary injunction because the state is seeking only to safeguard its property — not “regulate” Border Patrol.
The ruling also affirms Texas’ right to build wired fences for immigration enforcement.
Be Careful of What You Wish
The first part of the ruling above is narrow and seems correct. The second paragraph screams nonsense.
More accurately, it was nonsense when the Federal government disagreed.
Immigration policy belongs at the federal level. We do not want California, Illinois, or New York setting their own immigration policies. I thought so under Biden, and I do so now. Unlike others, I am consistent.
Texas has no more right to set immigration policy than California. However, Texas should be able to safeguard its property.
The distinction is important.
Of course, I was blasted by hypocrites who wanted Texas to set immigration policy but now don’t want California to do the same.
The Texas Tribune comments:
“It was shocking to me that the federal government would go out of their way to cut razor wire to allow illegals to cross when we’re just trying to protect our own land,” Paxton said during a Wednesday evening appearance on Newsmax. “This wasn’t their land. This was our land, our private property. It had nothing due to the federal government. So this is a good win for Texas, a good win for the country, that this court recognized our ability to protect our land.”
A spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Should I Just Kiss My Illegal Immigrant Husband Goodbye?
That’s the question the Wall Street Journal asks today in its post Migrants Prepare for Mass Deportation
Immigrants without legal status or in mixed-status families are avoiding going out in public, scrambling to apply for asylum and attending legal workshops ahead of Donald Trump’s return to power, fearful they will be swept up in the president-elect’s promised mass-deportation campaign.
“There is a lot of fear, a lot of concern,” said Lizeth Chacón, director of Workers Defense Project, in Texas. “There’s so much our community needs to plan for.”
Yvonne Sanchez, a stay-at-home mother in the Milwaukee suburbs, has started taking steps to prepare her five children should authorities arrest her husband, who is a Mexican immigrant in the country illegally and the family’s sole breadwinner.
Her husband has worked in the U.S. for nearly three decades, since he was 16 years old. Although Sanchez is a U.S. citizen, and the couple has been married for 13 years, she can’t sponsor her husband for a green card—which would grant him permanent U.S. residency—because he crossed into the country illegally. That would make him particularly vulnerable in a mass-deportation effort.
Sanchez wondered recently, “should I just kiss my husband goodbye? How far is this going to go?”
“I’m advising folks, make sure your affairs are in order,” said Lily Axelrod, an immigration attorney in Memphis, Tenn. “If you have kids, make sure their guardianship and custody situations are in order if, in the worst-case scenario, you are detained.”
Roughly 860,000 immigrants are living in the U.S. with a form of deportation protection called Temporary Protected Status, granted to people whose countries are deemed too dangerous to return to. Trump has vowed not to renew those protections—granted to people from countries including Venezuela, Haiti and Honduras. The first set of protections, which covers 239,000 migrants from El Salvador who have lived in the U.S. since 2001, is due to expire in March.
Hundreds of thousands more have entered the country under the Biden administration with explicit permission, granted a form of temporary status called humanitarian parole. Trump has promised to take their protections away, too.
Kateryna Kyrylova came to the U.S. under Biden’s humanitarian program after fleeing the Russian siege of her home city of Mariupol, Ukraine, where a bomb killed her grandmother, her only living relative, and another leveled her apartment building. After searching in an online forum, Kyrylova found a retired military couple in San Antonio, willing to financially sponsor her.
“I understand that he wants this illegal immigration to stop—it’s a huge problem for the country,” Kyrylova said. “I just want him to give me a chance to stay and live my life.”
Things That Make Sense
- Deporting everyone on the ICE list charged with violent crimes regardless of other circumstances
- Deporting recent arrivals with no job and no sponsorship
- Deporting Venezuelan gang members
Things That Make No Sense
- Deporting spouses of US citizens
- Deporting parents of US citizens
- Deporting people who have been here for years, are employed, and are leading productive lives
- Deporting people, especially Afghans who risked their lives aiding the US for years in holding off the Taliban and who would immediately be killed upon return
- Deporting people without understanding the economic impacts
Deport Them All Foolishness
Deport them all is both economically stupid and morally unjust.
People who propose such policies are economic illiterates. Most of them just parrot whatever Trump says without question.
But, if Trump wants to unleash a massive round of inflation by creating work shortages, all he has to do is listen to alleged mandates “deport them all”.
October 1: What Would Trump’s Mass Deportation of Immigrants Cost?
The Middle Ground
We need sensible immigration policy. Mass deportation of 10 to 15 million immigrants (or even 6 million) is not sensible.
It’s a dirty, not-so-secret, fact that red state and blue state alike depend on migrant labor for crops and construction projects.
However, an open border is not the answer either. We can do without the crime and shelter costs that uncontrolled immigration bring. Flying Haitians (or anyone else) here is beyond ridiculous and begging for problems.
I suggest we deport criminals, have a reasonable amnesty program for hard working immigrants who have been here for years, and mostly close the border using the military if necessary.
Future immigration should be based on our genuine needs.
October 18: How Difficult Would it Be For Trump to Deport Millions of Immigrants?
Trump’s Pledge
“As soon as I take the oath of office, I will terminate every open border policy of the Biden administration and begin the largest deportation operation in American history.”
Trumpian Bravado vs Reality
Fortunately, despite his harsh rhetoric, Trump seems to understand some of the economic arguments.
On November 11, the Wall Street Journal commented on Trump’s Mass Deportation Promise
He has a mandate on the border and to deport criminals. But more than that could get ugly fast.
In short order, Mr. Trump will move to reinstate the border policies of his first term, such as Remain in Mexico, which seemed to work. Under that deal, migrants claiming asylum in the U.S. were sent back to Mexico while their cases were pending, which might take months or more. The idea was to break the incentives to game the system. Given the backlog of asylum cases, letting migrants into the U.S. while they wait is an enticement to come.
The political rub may be Mr. Trump’s campaign promise to conduct “the largest deportation operation in the history of our country.” How it goes depends on what Mr. Trump means. Speaking Monday on Fox News, Mr. Homan said the priority will be “public-safety threats and national-security threats,” as well as migrants who “had due process” and “their federal judge said ‘you must go home,’ and they didn’t.”
Good to hear, and add what Mr. Homan told “60 Minutes” last month. “It’s not going to be a mass sweep of neighborhoods,” he said. “It’s not going to be building concentration camps. I’ve read it all. It’s ridiculous.”
Instead he said Mr. Trump’s plan would involve “targeted arrests,” and eventually “worksite enforcement operations.” If officers making an arrest also find an undocumented grandma in the house, will they detain her? “It depends,” Mr. Homan said. “Let the judge decide.”
Some of Mr. Trump’s advisers, including Mr. Miller, have talked about mass deportation in sweeping terms. But enforcement priorities are up to the President, and Mr. Trump has suggested he isn’t interested in illegal grandmothers.
When he visited the Journal recently, we asked about aliens who have been here for years, who might have U.S. citizen spouses and children. His response was that he wanted to help them.
“We have a lot of good people in this country, and we have to do something about it,” Mr. Trump said. “This has been going on for a long time. It’s a complicated subject.” He declined to specify whom he’d deport: “I don’t want to go too much into clarification, because the nicer I become, the more people that come over illegally.” Yet after stringent talk about deterrence, he ended with nuance: “There are some human questions that get in the way of being perfect, and we have to have the heart, too.”
Trump “We Have to Have the Heart, Too”
I 100 percent endorse that statement vs “deport them all” economic foolishness.
At the same time, I reject statements from California, Illinois, New York, and Colorado governors who think they can override federal law.
There is an easy middle ground that makes economic and moral sense.
Mish Five-Point Proposal
- Seal the border
- Reinstitute remain in Mexico
- Deport the criminals, gang members, and those on ICE lists, defining criminal as something other than being here illegally
- Help those who risk their lives assisting US policy in places like Afghanistan
- Work out a sensible policy on case-by-case immigration
The New Home for Hispanics is the Republican Party
My proposal is based in part on The Dignity Act , a bipartisan bill sponsored Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Florida).
For discussion, please see The New Home for Hispanics is the Republican Party
Click above to see an interview of Florida rep. Maria Salazar on Hispanics, Trump, and deportations.
What do you mean by “seal the border”? This is so vague it is meaningless.
Illegal aliens are criminals pursuant 8 U.S. Code §1181, §1182, §1324, and §1325. Liberals say, “No one is above the law.” Eat it! 😡
It’s disappointing when Mish and Peter Schiff (and probably others) drop their free-market bona fides to argue in favor of allowing invaders to remain b/c BIGBIZ needs fruit pickers and carpenters.
I’s disappointing when
1. people cannot think
2. misstate my position although it is damn clear
3. fail to understand economy
4. Do not understand a free market, what it means
5. and are so idiotically stupid as to not give a damn about inflation after what we went through
I am sure I left things out but that will suffice for now
Let’s say as a guess you keep the 10m illegals working and deport the 10 m that are not how is this inflationary
The main reason for inflation will be money creation FED, and increase of foreign investment.
How does deporting non employed people create inflation . Those people who need to eat and live off government hand outs is de flationary
How many times does this need to be explained?
Who the heck is going to work 10-15 million construction jobs, cooks, hotel workers, farm workers, etc?
Labor costs will soar due to increased competition. Productivity, especially construction will plunge. It will take longer to build anything.
Sow how the heck is that not inflationary.
Harvard/Columbia/ Stanford grads after DOGE . (Some what sarcastic) . But my point is to deport non- working criminals that drive up lodging and food and cut off all benifits for illegals . No health care , no housing , no EBT. Then the discussion has to be had about executive worker salary difference. While I hate all Gov unions and should be abolished , they may need a comeback in private space.
The robot discussion also needs to happen in terms of labor and illegal job displacement
Right! It makes no sense. It’s illegal to hire illegal aliens. These kinds of arguments are justifying yet more illegal action on top of an already illegal action. Deport them all. We don’t care about your damned profit margin.
“Fed Law” Trumps “State Law” and with Immigration specifically, because it affects the Country, hence Federal. They may/should get punished for this, but these days who knows… Idiots!!!
Fine, just don’t send them any money. They can have all the illegals they want. Just tax their own citizens to pay for them.
It’s probably time that we encourage Silicon Valley to move out of CA, so we can hand it over to Mexico. Hollywood can stay.
Another group to add to your list: Deport those who already have an “order of removal” These are people who already had their full immigration hearing and were found not entitled to claim asylum.
California is lost and not fixable. Leave those illegals for Newsom to take care of. Eliminate all federal funds being used for benefits of illegals. (Food stamps, housing, healthcare, etc). Eliminate all federal funds for all sanctuary states and cities.
California generates more federal tax revenue than any other state, and carries multiple red welfare states.
Could be it’s own country. That the US would have to import food from.
I didn’t say they didn’t have to pay federal taxes. They have to pay but don’t get any of it back until they are no longer a sanctuary state.
A little detail on your comment:
https://smartasset.com/data-studies/states-most-dependent-federal-government-2023
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That broccoli ain’t gonna cut itself.
Yeah, there was such a shortage of broccoli before the 10-15 million illegals were allowed to walk into the country. How would we survive if they all left?
It would help if you would think beyond broccoli to the ramifications of exporting 10 million people almost none of which are working on Broccoli.
I suppose this is too hard even though I spelled it out.
I was responding to a comment on broccoli made by Roquefort. Let’s discuss increased housing costs caused by the additional demand created by 10 million illegals on an already existing housing shortage or the impact of 10 million low skilled workers entering the work force on wages.
How would you know? Last time you ate a vegetable was during the Regan administration, and that was ketchup.
I’m Vegan.
you may have to explain to roq what a vegan is. He’s having another slow day.
It’s all well and good to say that states should not be diving into federal matters as a matter of legal theory but that presupposes that the federal government is meeting its obligations. That was the whole point of forming a union in the first place. The problem with the ‘only deport the bad people’ is that even for the ‘good’ ones it is fruit from a poisoned tree and undermines trust in the equal application of law – which is already low.
The elites get pardons and sweetheart deals. Illegals get ‘humanitarian’ treatment and financial assistance. What does the average John Q Public get? The bill.
Johnny’s got a gun, and he’s tired of getting pissed on by the wealthy.
I fail to understand how assisting enforcement of established immigration law is “creating immigration policy”. There’s a difference between law and policy.
Texas is not creating policy by enforcing current law. If it is, then California choosing to inhibit immigration law enforcement is “creating policy” too and should be prohibited.
Well. the current policy of the Biden admin is that anyone can come in, say the magic words “I fear persecution if I am sent back” and be paroled into the USA with a court date in 5 years. When Texas tries to prevent all that they are interfering in Biden’s current policy.
When Democrats say no one is above the law, know that they are lying.
“California Values Act”
I’d call it Marxist Values Act. A Cuban neighbor of mine left California due to the way Democrats are running the state.
“Deport them all is both economically stupid and morally unjust.”
What’s economically stupid and immoral is having illegal aliens and their families here who will be a net cost to our economy.
We’re expected to accept that 10 million NEW illegals in the past 4 years are so critical to the economy?
Deport all immigrants, NO
Deport illegal aliens, YES, at least who came over the past 4 years under Biden and don’t have a job
As of Oct 2023, it was 14 million, not counting those who were “not counted” by the Biden regime. I’d put the number at close to 30 million today.
Even if they have a job and are paying taxes (that’s two BIG IFs), they are still a net cost to taxpayers when you take into account the cost of the welfare programs they are usually legible for.
So unless those who believe they should remain pay for them, they all need to go because I refuse to pay for them.
The proposals in this article are the best. Not to mention cracking down on child labor.
Funny how before the election it was one article after another on the net ‘get them out’ And now after the election it’s one after another “it’s going to be a disaster”.
One of the least competent administrations in recent American history is now currently giving way to one of the least impressive presidential transitions. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/how-the-neocons-won-the-transition/
The circus is coming to town!
NO AMNESTY!
We tried that in 1986 and look at where we are now.
A recent Center of Immigration study puts the net cost of illegals at just over 2 trillion dollars (assuming 30 million illegals).
The question is not whether we can afford to deport them, but rather whether we can afford not to deport them.
“Deporting people without understanding the economic impacts”
Here’s a little of bit economic literacy for you.
Illegal immigrants are a net fiscal drain, receiving more in government services than they pay in taxes (IF they pay any taxes at all and IF they have a job).
The fundamental reason that illegal immigrants are a net drain is that they have a low average education level, which results in low average earnings. It also means that a large share qualify for welfare programs, often receiving benefits on behalf of their US born children. Their contributions to the economy do not come close to covering the cost they create.
especially those who came in the past 4 years under Biden’s “let ’em all in” policy. Explain how that group is a net positive now?
Also, even if employed, the millions of additional illegals compete for jobs with the lower skilled tier of the workforce and create downward pressure on wages. This is happening at the same time that States and Municipalities are increasing the minimum wage. The country has had a housing shortage for some time. 10 million people have to live somewhere exacerbating the shortage and raising the cost of housing. Bottom line, the working class gets screwed while paying taxes that support handouts for the illegals.
My friends who voted Trump say their number 1 issue is immigration. I’m more centrist on most issues but people voted Trump because of what he said on immigration among other issues but the issue they commented on with passion was deportation of illegal immigrants. Give them what they voted for. The economy will adjust to market conditions.
… and those bottom feeders will end up out in the fields 60 hours a week.
I live close to Frederick, MD. The downtown is attractive. They have their version of a riverwalk, lots of restaurants, shops, etc. On the outskirts are expensive Soviet-style, ugly townhome developments, typical for the area. Cookie cutter to the max.
The state itself is being destroyed by whackjob liberals. The governor of the Old Line state, God help us, is being touted as a rising Demoncrat star and potential future presidential candidate.
Maryland Faces $2.7B Budget Deficit, ‘Worst Situation’ in 20 Years
The five-year budget outlook is poorer than the one the state faced in the Great Recession and, without any changes, Maryland will only be able to cover 84 percent of planned spending through the 2030 fiscal year.Nov. 13, 2024 • Sam Janesch, Baltimore Sun, TNS
Maryland lawmakers were warned Tuesday, Nov. 12. of an impending $2.7 billion deficit they’ll need to resolve for the next budget year — a significant hole that all but guarantees another debate in Annapolis over whether they should make deep budget cuts or raise taxes.
The budget picture is worsening faster than previously expected, according to new estimates presented to lawmakers in a briefing ahead of the annual 90-day session that begins in January.
David Romans, an independent state fiscal analyst, described it as “an enormous gap” due to growing expenses and recent years of quick fixes to cover for slow revenue growth.
The result of that combination: A five-year budget outlook that’s poorer than the one the state faced during the Great Recession in 2008-’09. Without any changes, the state will be able to cover only 84 percent of planned spending through the 2030 fiscal year.
“That is the worst situation we’ve seen in the last 20 years,” Romans said.
The forecast doesn’t factor in any potential erosion of federal support under the incoming Donald Trump administration — though the possibility of losing federal funding or jobs in Maryland, among several other potential impacts, is alarming, analysts and lawmakers said.
“We don’t have a lot of cushion to absorb any major cutbacks in either the federal workforce or federal contract spending,” Theresa Tuszynski, another budgeting official, said in the meeting while giving an update about Maryland’s lagging employment numbers.
Though the state has a low unemployment rate of 2.7 percent, it has the second-worst job growth rate in the country, with payroll data showing a gain of around only 5,800 jobs in the 2024 calendar year, Tuszynski said. Private sector employment has slightly decreased in Maryland according to some figures, she said.
“Though the declines aren’t very big, seeing any decline, let alone month after month of decline, is just unheard of in the history outside of a recession — and the U.S. economy and Maryland economy are clearly not in recession,” Tuszynski said.
The combination of economic factors and the massive immediate gap in the next budget puts at risk a long list of priorities for Gov. Wes Moore and other Democrats.
In his first two years in office, Moore has doubled-down on his support for major initiatives while routinely stressing fiscal responsibility. He’s repeatedly said he has a “very, very high bar” for new taxes and has opted instead to balance his budgets with cuts, pulling from reserves and borrowing more.
But the latest briefing in the Spending Affordability Committee shows not only will lawmakers likely need to fill a $2.7 billion cash deficit in the next budget — which begins July 1, 2025 — but also a $300 million deficit in the current year. That’s far more than the $1.1 billion cash shortfall lawmakers faced heading into the 2024 session.
Fiscal analysts’ recommendations include drawing down roughly half of the $2.5 billion rainy day fund and another measure that would significantly slim down the state’s reserves in case of a recession. Another step could be to shift about $250 million worth of capital projects to bonds, making them more costly in the long run but saving money in the immediate future.
Those steps would still leave about $1.2 billion for lawmakers to figure out how to cover during the upcoming session. Moore will kick off the budget process in January, where he will need to propose a balanced budget plan and the General Assembly will spend the following two months debating and amending it. Moore’s office did not return a request for comment Tuesday.
At least one idea on the table will be a plan that was introduced in the last session as the Fair Share for Maryland Act. Created by a coalition of advocacy groups, it would expand taxes on the highest-earning household and on corporations while aiming to give lower earners a tax break of a few hundred dollars.
Advocates said the version it introduced in 2024 would have raised $1.6 billion annually. It was never seriously considered by Democratic leaders in the state Senate, and neither was a separate $1.3 billion plan that House Democrats proposed that relied on the corporate income tax idea as well as legalized internet gaming and transportation fees.
Some transportation-related fees — on vehicle registrations, ride-sharing and electric vehicles — were ultimately part of the $63 billion final budget agreement in order to stave off some cuts to the transportation budget and to secure additional funding for the Blueprint for Maryland’s Future.
The education reform plan is by far the biggest driver of the state’s long-term budget problems. Starting in the 2028 fiscal year, about $2 billion for Blueprint needs are unfunded, a figure that grows to $3.2 billion in the 2030 fiscal year, according to the update Tuesday.
Trying to avoid a situation where the state pulls back on those plans is one of the top goals for the groups of educators, federal employees and other advocates behind the Fair Share plan.
“Maryland already faces long-term revenue challenges that are now further complicated by uncertainties about future federal funding,” the coalition said in a statement Tuesday. “Now is the time to fix our tax system and ensure we have the revenue we need to fund the education, health, and public safety programs that make our communities stronger.”
SOVEREIGN: my Company, the very First Company in the Country to deploy ATM’s OUTSIDE of banks, with Fed Approval, decided to go after the Indian Casino business. At that time, in the early 90’s (After I had retired from owning a Silicon Valley Business), there were no ATM’s in Truck Stops, Casinos, Malls or in busy tourist areas ( and it was MY plan to attack those 4 sectors FIRST).
OF COURSE, Indian Sovereign Rights and their OWN courts. That status conflicted with FED BANKING RULES which meant that every ATM, on its own, is a TINY BANK in the eyes of the US Government.
For example, if you STEAL an ATM (Of course it happened to us, the very first, which was DRAGGED OUT OF An OUTLET MALL in Cal)….and THAT was Grand Theft of a WHOLE BANK! HA! We never caught the guys. They could not find a way to get the VAULT open inside that Diebold ATM…they dragged it down a road and a COP found it lying in the middle of a Back road. NO DYNAMITE marks were found: HA! It had the balance of $5K in it in 20 dollar bills.
Then, things got interesting for us. One of our largest Indian Casino’s told us: “OUR Courts prevail if we want to break our ATM Contract.” I have a degree in the Law (Contract Law, and Corporate Law)….however, I was not a practicing attorney.
THEY WON. We had no right to even PLEAD our CASE IN THEIR COURT.
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Now, is the ENTIRE US BORDER, encircling our Country, in control as a SOVEREIGN nation, the USA? Then the natural progression of thinking must be drilled down in this order: FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY and finally CITY.
The Supreme Court has the right, in my mind (I am not a well-educated person in that context) to RULE on FEDERAL AUTHORITY on down to the CITY LEVEL…..FEDERAL AUTHORITY MUST RULE or any State that defies that authority can have ITS FEDERAL FUNDING SUSPENDED.
This may well be where it goes. MISH, this is the MOST interesting subject matter for you to expound upon. THANKS!
Maybe put these governors in federal prison with illegal immigrant gang leaders until they change their perspectives.
Like they locked up Hillary?
Who has SOVEREIGN control?
– Hundreds of people demonstrated around the California Capitol on Monday to urge the Legislature to try to stop deportation of “Illegal Immigrants” plans.
> Obviously they feel like they are “Above The Law” They can legally protest, but I would snap pictures of everyone there, and make sure they are all legal. That’s ok to do, just as it is to legally protest in the public square.
– In response to former President Donald Trump’s mass deportation plans, states like California and New York have been vocal in their opposition, asserting their
authority to protect immigrant communities from federal enforcement.
> CA. NY, CT, CHI. etc. And no State for that matter, has authority to protect anybody, including themselves, from Federal Enforcement of a law. Get their ID’s and Fine them, Fire them, Place them in jail next to their illegal freinds if possible. They can share stories of how they tried to skirt the law, but the law won!
– California has long been at the forefront of this resistance. Under Senator Alex Padilla and Governor Gavin Newsom, the state has emphasized its commitment to shielding immigrants, particularly through Senate Bill 54, the “California Values Act,” which limits state and local cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
> Yep, CA. Has been breaking the Law for many, many decades. They have 100% “Democrat Party Control” so they do what they want to the People of CA. And just tell them to like it, suck it up, or leave! Many wealthy have left, and many, many more are set to follow. So now the burden falls on the much less wealthy, that obviously can’t afford this crap! They also can’t afford to move, and many will end up on the street with the rest of the homeless and broke. Nice State that CA. Is, to its people… NOT!!!
– The conflict has raised significant questions about the balance of power between federal and state governments.
> The ONLY conflict, is between States that DON’T Recognize that “Federal Law” Trump’s “State Law” CA. Just Happens to be the Biggest Offender, and Biggest State!!!
An interesting point is the Mayor of NYC is somewhat on board with plan
One has to wonder how much of this cooperation from NYC is based on the investigations of Adams, hoping to stay in power with help from Trump
At one point you advocate to “and mostly close the border using the military if necessary” and later in the post you write “Seal the border“. I go for seal the border as if there are leaks, mostly what is leaked will be the most undesirable with the drugs and horrendous crime. Second point I would like to emphasize is the cost to have the illegals here. They get schooling but their schooling costs more to accommodate the language issues, medical care, all the freebees from housing and food to cell phones, incremental services costs due to population increase such as fire and police protection and more traffic congestion. On the contribution side, I doubt they cover their incremental burden. I do not agree with deporting everyone for the reasons you detail, but I do not believe there should be a single exception going forward or we are just undermining the legal entry process. Basically, we either have immigration laws we totally enforce, or we end up with a mostly sealed border and the consequences.
There is another aspect of illegal immigration that does not get enough attention, and that is congressional representation. Currently a congressman represents about 80,000 people. Who knows the actual number, but if it is 16 million, then some 20 seats have been taken from legal persons and given to illegal.
Did the US economy have extreme labour shortages 5 years ago before the 12 million or so illegals arrived under Biden? Can any shortages be filled by any of the millions of unemployed Americans? Then any vacancies still left can be filled by vetted legal migrants.
As for splitting up married couples well that is a choice the couples made when they got married. The US spouse can always go with their foreign spouse. When I married my wife I lived in a slum in Cairo with her until permits were finalised. Millions of other couples do the same thing so I ignore all the sob stories the leftist media makes.
– Then any vacancies still left can be filled by vetted legal migrants.
> Exactly! America Loves Immigrants! We are a land full of immigrants! We are also (we were until Harris and Biden came along) a Country with laws, and yet another reason immigrant’s come here! So please still come, as we want you here, but “Do It Legally Please” and then “Welcome Home”
– As for splitting up married couples well that is a choice the couples made when they got married. The US spouse can always go with their foreign spouse. When I married my wife I lived in a slum in Cairo with her until permits were finalised. Millions of other couples do the same thing so I ignore all the sob stories the leftist media makes.
> Pick a Country and live happily ever after, but stop complaining about a wonderful life that awaits you, if you play by the “Rule of Law” It’s that easy!
China Is in an Economic Collapse, Political Collapse Is Near, Chinese Economists Reveal the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40G2LBCZmdc
“There are some human questions that get in the way of being perfect, and we have to have the heart, too.”
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Translation: Very few people are getting deported. We looked everywhere and there are only a few hundred illegals in the US who have committed any crimes since my first administration.
Hint: The word “Illegals” and Larger Hint: Entering the U.S. without “Permission” via a “Legal Port” of entry, IS ILLEGAL!!!
Deport the criminals, gang members, and those on ICE lists, defining criminal as something other than being here illegally
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How many of these are here and how far back are we going ? I heard the FBI had a list of every illegal immigrant who committed a felony since the mid 1970s and the number was like 50,000 people. If you are talking about any criminal (even a misdemeanor), then that number may be in the hundreds of thousands. I don’t think you can go back any further than the Immigration reform act of 1986 that legalized everyone that was here illegally as long as they came here before 1984.The definition for criminal activity needs a better definition.
You obviously don’t understand what a “Hint” is…
“You heard”.. HaHaHa! lol
People are saying… only the best people (spreads and waves hands)
My popular vote tracker says 49.79% for Trump and 50.21% against Trump. This is no mandate.
You can lie to yourself, but it changes nothing. Oh, and the “Mandate Still Exist” too…
Lol! You guys are freaking nuts.
IT NO LONGER MATTERS, right, VooDoo? DO YOU VOO by the way?
Who do?
Time to ignore this idiot
How do you propose to “seal the border” ? Is that like with glue on an envelope ? I say it is nearly impossible to seal the border. There are about as many visa overstays on visitors visas as illegal immigrants. If you wanted to stop all illegal immigration, you would literally have to stop issuing vistors visas. I personally would not have a problem with this as I don’t have anyone from overseas visiting me on a regular basis. But if we are talking about stopping all illegal immigration, you have to stop all visa programs. There are overstays and fake work visas on fake jobs in the millions
– How do you propose to “seal the border”
> It’s 90% sealed, but Harris & Biden collapsed a bunch, ripped out a bunch, set up work around for them, and allowed them to walk right past the Border Guards. That’s called the “Harris/Biden point of entry (Anywhere and At Any Time) and THATS ILLEGAL!!!
– There are about as many visa overstays on visitors visas as illegal immigrants
> Yet another issue to deal with, but much different. We have there names, locations, where they work and everything.
– If you wanted to stop all illegal immigration, you would literally have to stop issuing vistors visas.
> Actually just the opposite! We would want to issue A Whole Lot MORE OF THEM,
– I personally would not have a problem with this as I don’t have anyone from overseas visiting me on a regular basis.
> We can all see why that would be, if true…
Hillary: “Did I ‘clean my phone’? Is that like with a cloth and some Windex??””
HaHaHa!
lol
If the US can take over entire countries on the other side of the earth, it can close the border.
…and yes, the US military has every right to protect and enforce the US border.
It’s not about sealing the border. It’s about delivering lucrative contracts to cronies.
You had me at ‘California’.
You simply cannot have a bunch of militant idealogues in a few states superseding what is in the best interests of a nation. Trump needs to make this abundantly clear to these radicals.
So no state’s rights. Got it. What’s next, a monarchy?
I am still waiting on an answer as to when weUS citizens were asked if it was OK to have 10 million people violate our naturalization laws?
Talk about elitism in the guise of libertarianism.
The rich must be served at the lowest possible cost.
That is the reason illegal immigration continues.
You must not remember when Reagan signed a bill legalizing many in 1986.The Immigration Reform and Control Act legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.
The US traditionally has around 1 – 1.5 million illegals enter the country going back a couple of decades. Under Biden it went up to around 3 million for 3 years, so there is probably around 5 million more immigrants than normal. The simple fact of the matter is that the border is 3000 miles long and the manpower needed to seal the border, 24 hours a day, is prohibitive. Nobody wants to pay for it.
We could handle it with snipers.
Save those for the billionaires that dare to show their faces.
It was at least 15 million officially as of last year. Not counting those that got away obviously. I’d guess approaching 30 million all told by now.
A recent Center of Immigration study puts the net cost to US taxpayers of 30 million illegals at just over 2 trillion dollars.
Sadly, there isn’t much anyone can do about the matter. Dems still have super majorities in the legislature, the Republican party here is lame and voters keep voting for the bleeding hearts.
California moved towards Republicans by around 20% more than 2020. I think they are swinging back to the center. Also seeing a lot of people returning to California.
The people that went to Texas got a hard lesson on just how bad a place can suck.
We’d be happy to get to the center but it isn’t happening as just this article alone indicates.
More may be voting for Republicans but there aren’t enough to get a significant increase in Pubs WINNING elections, which again, is why the Dems continue to have supermajorities in Sacramento, which allows them to continue with past policies.
Unsure about any significant population growth in CA other than illegals and the homeless/destitute/poor migrating here for all the benefits available to them.
In San Mateo county, which is one of the wealthiest counties in the USA and thanks to our bleeding heart politicians, there is no residency requirement for getting any kind of government assistance. Roll in, register for help & benefits, granted at the expense of the county taxpayers..
When observing demonstrations like this I wonder how many of these demonstrators have a vested interest in having illegal immigrants in abundance. The increasing hiring in the Government sector over the last few years is well known. Many of these employees have been hired to handle this massive influx of newcomers. If these Government employees were to to have less illegal immigrants to provide services to then their jobs could be in jeopardy. If I was one of these employees or a family member of one–then I might be supporting illegal immigration also. My paycheck is at stake.
Good.
Immigrants made American great and can do it again.
My ancestors got off the ship without papers.
Mine came with papers.
Mine came with a greencard in hand ! BOOYAH.
My parents came here the right way and made the effort to learn language and not take any handouts. Illegal immigration acceptance is a slap in the face to them.
ICE can start deportation efforts in Red states, which will push illegal aliens to Blue states. The feds can then set up shop in Blue states to detain illegal aliens with efficiency. Once SCOTUS rules States must report arrested illegal aliens to the Feds AND detain them for the Feds to take away, the only safe place for illegal aliens to go will be back to Canada or Mexico.
Trump Trump Trump. Marsha Marsha Marsha
Texas just building a wall which have been proved time and time again to be effective.
Effective at making the wall builders wealthy on government money.
Obviously it was effective and working or it wouldn’t need to be cut down.
Texas unveils its new border-area ranch, site of proposed deportation detention facility
The first National Socialist mention of ‘concentration [detention] camp’ can be found early as 1921, taken from the Nazi propaganda publication Völkischer Beobachter: ‘One can prevent the Jewish [immigrants at the moment ] hollowing-out of our people by, if necessary, isolating those responsible in concentration [detention] camps.’
Jews did not take the hint to their everlasting chagrin.
50/50 they keep them in the camps and use them as slaves.
Throwing this out there… If TX is “not allowed” to assist in the enforcement of federal immigration law as a state, is it not just as wrong to inhibit the enforcement of said law by the Feds (as in the case of CA and the sanctuary “places”)?
Mish’s 5-point? ABSOLUTELY