Forget About a Soft Landing, What’s the Shape of the Hard Landing?

Landing Patterns courtesy of the Wall Street Journal (WSJ)

Hot Economy, Rising Inflation

In Hot Economy, Rising Inflation the WSJ notes The Fed Has Never Successfully Fixed a Problem Like This. That link is not paywalled for those who wish to read.

Key Points 

  • During the past 80 years, the Fed has never lowered inflation as much as it is setting out to do now—by four percentage points—without causing recession.
  • “No one expects that bringing about a soft landing will be straightforward in the current context—very little is straightforward in the current context,” Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said last month. The central bank, he added, faces a “challenging task.”
  • Goldman analysts estimate the Fed can achieve its goal of bringing down inflation and slowing upward wage pressures by reducing job openings by about 2.5 million.
  • “There is plenty of room for businesses to reduce the number of job openings,” said Lael Brainard, a Fed governor awaiting Senate confirmation to become Fed vice chairwoman, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal last week. “I see that as being consistent both in bringing inflation down and sustaining the recovery.”

Forget About a Soft Landing 

I believe the soft landing proponents at the Fed and Goldman Sachs are in Fantasyland.

So does Danielle DiMartino Booth, founder of Quill Intelligence. 

No Soft Landing Anywhere

Regarding stock and bond market action: “You cannot even call it volatile anymore. You should call it violent. the types of swings we are seeing day to day. That’s because there is so much uncertainty about what the outcome of this is going to be. But I think that anybody who suggests the Fed can engineer a soft landing at this point, that any central bank right now can engineer a soft landing, Europe is going into recession quicker than the United states is. I think it’s just specious, just disingenuous.”

Shape of Things to Come

If we can rule out a soft landing, what will a hard landing look like? The WSJ models are so out of date. 

We need some new economic thinking and Economic Modeler Extraordinaire (EME) Rudy Haverstein leads the way with three proposals.

First I have a note about amazing success.

Amazing Success!

The Fed had such amazing success in bring about inflation. Did it ever stop to take a bow?

I think not, and what a travesty to have such unglorified success. But what’s next?

Domino Theory 

Spiral Out of Control Theory

Tipping Point Theory 

Competing Economic Theories

  • Domino Theory: Proponents of this theory believe things will take a while to play out. Things things fall one by one, but the big decline comes after a long wait.  This scenario is very orderly until the final chaos. 
  • Spiral Theory: In contrast to the Domino Theory, Spiral Theory proponents expect things to be very disorderly right from the start. And once a decline does start, no one will believe the Fed has anything under control.
  • Tipping Point Theory: This scenario will happen fast. The Fed will appear to be in control until one rate hike too many and then the whole damn thing suddenly tips over. This will happen much faster than a Domino Theory collapse. 
  • Fantasyland Theory: Soft landing

Poll 

Might We See a Minimal Job Loss Recession? 

Nonfarm Payrolls and Employment data from BLS, chart by Mish

There is one aspect of the Goldman Sachs thesis that may be correct. 

Before people start getting fired or laid off, hiring will slow. Then employers will cut hours. I do not expect to see the sustained mass firings and layoffs that we saw in 2008-2009. 

I discussed that idea in Might We See a Minimal Job Loss Recession? Why Not?

Outright Delusion

Those looking for outright delusion can find it in multiple places. For example, on April, James Bullard, St. Louis Fed President, won my Hoot of the Day award.

St. Louis Fed President Says “Fed is Not Far Behind the Curve

Also in the delusional category, Chicago Fed President Charles Evans Resorts to Hope, Does Not Foresee a Recession

De-Globalization: New Supply Chains Are Inefficient and Will Drive Up Inflation

One of the many problems the Fed faces is de-globalization. The New Supply Chains Are Inefficient and Will Drive Up Inflation

Interest rate hikes are a very blunt instrument and the Fed is in a bad setup largely of its own making.

Bear Market Is Over Says Cramer

Meanwhile, please note Cramer’s Call Bear Market is Over: “You Have Been Warned”

On March 25, Cramer touted the end of the bear market. Let’s see how well that one ages. 

I strongly disagree with Cramer: Most People Have No Idea How Much Stocks are Likely to Crash

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Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
I favor the Skyrocket Theory. It is similar to the Tip Over Theory but much more spectacular. There will be a bunch of illuminating but smoke hidden low level activity. Most of which is unclear save for those with the best seats (they came early). Then there will be a great whoosh with a vaguely defined upward trail. Suddenly there will be a mighty burst of dollars for a few seconds and the pieces fade and die as they fall to the ground.
Direct deposit and autopayments will make this the most interesting hyperinflation ever!
CCR
CCR
2 years ago
How utterly silly is this comment?
  • “There is plenty of room for businesses to reduce the number of job openings,” said Lael Brainard, a Fed governor awaiting Senate confirmation to become Fed vice chairwoman, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal last week. “I see that as being consistent both in bringing inflation down and sustaining the recovery.”
Christoball
Christoball
2 years ago
Perhaps the bug on a windshield theory.
AWC
AWC
2 years ago
I’ll take the Stagflation Theory, for about 5 years or so, with inflation running 7-9%, with blips higher here and there, which they’ll jaw bone back into range. The Fed doesn’t have the cajones to crash this thing now. It would start an instant revolution. They’ll go for revolution later, on someone else’s watch, like the politician animals they are, rather than sooner.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
2 years ago
None of the previous recessions mentioned had so much personal and government debt with so little in personal savings as in today’s financial system. With the FED neither preventing such a dramatic change in inflation and interest rates, nor taming them, the FED has already shown itself to have no control. I favor the spiral theory.
MPO45
MPO45
2 years ago
I sometimes can’t follow the logic of this blog or commenters. What is going to cause a hard landing? If it’s demand destruction that will only happen if people can’t afford to buy things or there is nothing to buy. The news out today is Verizon is starting pay at $20/hour and CNBC is reporting Apple employees in NY want to unionize and start pay at $30/hour. Rest assured, $30/hour is on the way sooner than most people think.
So what’s going to cause this hard landing?
It is more plausible we have serious economic trouble from Geo-political risks (China invading Taiwan or Russia setting off nukes) than anything the Fed does or doesnt do.
Let’s also do a thought experiment. ASSUME that the Fed DID count housing as part of inflation, would that make any difference? Would the Fed say, “oh look housing is expensive and its causing inflation, let’s raise rates!” If it hasn’t done that in the last two housing bubbles why do it now? Would it matter anyway?
AWC
AWC
2 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Agree, the “target” now will be goosing lagging wages to appear to mitigate the damage caused by their profligate helicopter money fiasco. It will all fail,,,,,,,4 or 5 years from now, on another watch.
TCW
TCW
2 years ago
Reply to  AWC
Just read they’re coming out with another student loan forgiveness plan…same as handing out money.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Beat the rush. Ask for $50/hr now. No, wait, ask for $75/hr now and you may not have to ask for more money in January.
Karlmarx
Karlmarx
2 years ago
Ya gotta agree with Mish. Kinda like the dollar might just be the brick house that all the piggies run to
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx

Difference now is, there are all these odd looking crypto bunkers along the way.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
You missed a theory. Cluster Fudge Theory: no matter the magnitude or cause of the economic situation, we will still ‘fudge’ it up because we are all Keynesians now. Progressives always know what is best for you.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
The soft landing scenario would have been if they started raising rates in the summer of 2021. Still perplexed as to why they didn’t do this when the labor market was getting hotter and inflation was rising quickly. It would have been a steadier ship now if they had started in 2021. There will be no soft landing because they waited too long. A day late and a dollar short.
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
2 years ago
It’s like they have no idea what they’re doing. Or, what they’re doing is known only to the very few. Not sure how we’re supposed to know which.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple
I don’t think they are all even looking at the same data anymore. It falls on the Fed chair imo. It has turned into another committee devoid of any leadership. Jerome Powell needs to be fired for lack of leadership.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple
They have no idea.
They are going to steer the ship in a direction as long as it looks promising and once it doesn’t they will steer in another direction and claim this is the way they planned to go all the time.
thimk
thimk
2 years ago
“De-Globalization: New Supply Chains Are Inefficient and Will Drive Up Inflation “.
I believe that this is a very key statement.
JeffD
JeffD
2 years ago
More likely? Hyperinflation as people realize currency is worthless as the Fed won’t do what it takes (mass bankruptcy of zombie corporations). Add “hyperinflation” to your survey and see what happens.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  JeffD
Hyperinflation is absurd – totally
Do you even know what it means?
Total complete loss of faith in currency, it goes to zero, like Venezuela , Weimar, Zimbabwe.
The US dollar would have to go to zero vs the Yen, Euro, Yuan, Ruble, etc.
To believe that is likely is ridiculous.
JeffD
JeffD
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
He who laughs last, laughs best. If you don’t believe it so strongly, add it to your surveys to prove it gets less than 3% of votes. Or are you afraid? Argentina has gone through several bouts of near-hyperinflation. It can happen here.
JeffD
JeffD
2 years ago
Reply to  JeffD
Already, inflation is at 20% a year considering how many trimmed mean adjustments were made to CPI, so I guess that’s “no big deal” but somehow near hyperinflation is ” ridiculous”.
thimk
thimk
2 years ago
I’ not so worried about what the feds are going to do , but what Biden will do. the feds are smart to tighten and take some froth out. not sure i like the idea of reducing the number of job openings as proposed by the fed . seems counterintuitive. The feds should not have lowered rates during the covid /stimulus hysteria .
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
2 years ago
Reply to  thimk
No one has explained the actual mechanism by which 2.5M job listings are removed. Legislative fiat? Gentlemen’s agreement? FED policy (if so, what)? Destroy the economy (if so, how and why)?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple
Inflation will increase the cost of labor (and become embedded in wage structures), which will send jobs to cheaper labor countries (not necessarily China).
Alternatively, increased regulation of supply. Reducing the 5-day working week to 4 days will reduce full-time jobs, probably not filled by employers. Reduced demand for goods and services since inflation rearranges spending/consumption patterns. To increase demand, more emphasis is placed on reducing supply cost–hence fewer employees… I think all of the above will have adverse effects on the US economy.
Until there is increased nationalism, I think globalization continues. Then, of course, global conflict. Jobs are military and defense related.
ajc1970
ajc1970
2 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple
I was hiring like crazy until February 2020. Then I wasn’t, dropped my job listings and 6 weeks later laid off my entire staff, including a recent hire still in training.
Perhaps that example was an anomaly, but these things can turn on a dime.
Basically if you employ people, you probably also watch your revenue. If you see it drop and you’re running a small business, you’re always ready to switch course.
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
2 years ago
Reply to  ajc1970
Sorry to hear that, sounds like you fall under the heading “destroy the economy.” That seems like the most plausible way, but how will they deal with civil unrest?
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple
Brutal militarize police if it gets threatening.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
There are a lot of armed citizens in this country. What you describe would work well elsewhere (Canada, Australia, Europe etc) but will be a much harder thing here to accomplish due to armed citizenry.
At the end of the day even the Police want to go home to their families.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Reply to  ajc1970
When you can’t make payroll you let people go.
Only big companies can finance payroll.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
2 years ago
Could you please send the videos to the Eccles building?
Then again maybe not, they couldn’t possibly make the connection.
Curious-Cat
Curious-Cat
2 years ago
Well done, Mish. Great presentation. Very informative. Much more useful than political commentary.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Curious-Cat
Strange; I thought it was political comedy.
shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
When is all this going to happen? We’ve been waiting a very long time.
Dean_70
Dean_70
2 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
The Fed had tools to keep kicking the can down the road. It looks like the end of this road is 2022. They’ll try to bounce back quickly after the crash but they are just about out of tools.
They’ll push to escalate the Ukraine situation for direct involvement as the last measure. Stay tuned for a chemical/nuclear device set off in Ukraine to pull in NATO. The West as a whole has a major economic crisis brewing. War will be the answer.
thimk
thimk
2 years ago
Reply to  Dean_70
possibly , Governments will be spending a larger portion of GDP on defense spending , limited resources will accrue to the military , inflationary for the public . the timing of the Russian incursion and China’s lock downs seems suspect. Guns or butter , what will it be ??
hhabana
hhabana
2 years ago
Mish! Those are great videos! Represents some of the financial blunders I did in my life. lol.
Food and other prices still going up in the stores and gas still expensive. Gonna be a rough landing. Noticed more “specials” from retailers.
Karlmarx
Karlmarx
2 years ago
Reply to  hhabana
Gas prices in fla seemed to magically jump a dime today
Dutoit
Dutoit
2 years ago
What will it look like? For ordinary people, for everyday’s life. Which consequences on the strains that exist already in society ?
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Jimbob Noskill will come on hard times, and blame Hector Mexicano. Same as it ever was.
jim_f
jim_f
2 years ago
I vote for none of these, but I’m not gonna tell you how it will play out.
billybobjr
billybobjr
2 years ago
Mish one of your best ! The links are hilarious. I am going with we are already in the domino theory but will enter the
tipping point sometime in the not to distance future and the unraveling will occur fast .
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Loved the videos. I don’t know this will play out, but I suspect 5 years from now, the FEDs balance sheet will be a lot higher than it is now.

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