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German Costs to Ship by Barge are up Twenty Times and May Soon Be Impossible

Rhine Nears Critical Level

Shippers prepare for the worst in Germany as Water Level on the Rhine River is at a Critical Level.

Shipping companies prepared to halt the transport of goods on the Rhine as water levels in Germany’s biggest river neared a critically low point Saturday.

An ongoing drought affecting much of Europe has lowered rivers such as the Rhine, preventing large ships with heavy loads from passing key waypoints and forcing them to use smaller vessels or to split cargoes into multiple shipments.

At one bottleneck, near the town of Kaub on the Middle Rhine, an official gauge measured the water level at 37 centimeters (14.6 inches) on Saturday afternoon. Big, heavy ships can’t pass if the level falls below 40 centimeters (15.7 inches).

Logistics company Contargo said Friday that it was preparing to halt shipping on the Upper and Middle Rhine for safety reasons and planned to shift some of its cargo onto trucks. Road and rail freight capacity is limited, however.

Companies along the Rhine that rely on ships to receive raw materials and deliver finished goods are expected to face delays and shortages. Coal-fired power plants and gas stations could also see supply shortages, if shipping on the Rhine is halted.

Rhine is Shrinking

CNN reports the Rhine is Shrinking, Endangering Europe’s Top Economy.

Recently, Germany has resorted to firing up its coal power plants to ensure that the country retains access to electricity as Russia restricts gas supplies.

But “much of the needed hard-coal is transported from the Dutch ports of Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Antwerp by barges” along the Rhine river, adding pressure to capacity there, Deutsche Bank economists noted.

According to Henri Patricot, an oil analyst at UBS, the river’s falling water levels “is challenging shipments of energy products, which is aggravating the commodity supply situation in Europe.” The Rhine is also crucial for transporting chemicals and grain.

Researchers at the Kiel Institute for the World Economy have previously found that in a month of low water, the country’s industrial output can fall by about 1%.

Rhine to Recede Further as Climate Crisis Adds to Energy Crunch

Bloomberg reports Rhine to Recede Further as Climate Crisis Adds to Energy Crunch

A key water marker at Kaub — where the river is narrow and shallow — is poised to fall to 30 centimeters (11.8 inches) by Monday and drop further in subsequent days, according to German government data. At 40 centimeters, a level it reached Friday, it’s not economical for many barges to transit the chokepoint.

German utility EnBW Energie Baden-Wuerttemberg AG has enough coal to supply its power stations for the winter, even with disruption to shipments. Another power producer, Uniper SE, has warned that it may have to cut output at two key coal-fired power plants in Germany as it struggles to get fuel supplies along the river.

Stockpiles of diesel and heating oil in independent storage in the ARA region are currently at their lowest seasonal level since at least 2008. A shallower river makes it harder to ship this important fuel into inland Europe. 

Not Just Germany

The Wall Street Journal reports Europe’s Key Rivers Fall to Critical Levels, Aggravating Energy Crunch

In Germany, the Rhine is at critically low levels, hampering deliveries of coal and industrial goods, and is forecast to potentially become impassable for most barges at a key stretch by the end of the week.

In France, the Rhône and Garonne have been too warm to cool nuclear reactors, leading to lower output. In Eastern Europe, Danube levels are dwindling, impeding a key Ukrainian grain route.

“This is clearly making Europe’s energy problems worse,” said Fabian Skarboe Rønningen, senior analyst at consulting firm Rystad Energy. “Low river levels and warm water temperatures affect both German coal and French nuclear power, two of the largest sources of supply in Europe.”

In Eastern Europe, shipping via parts of the Danube, which drains into the Black Sea, has become largely uneconomical since vessels can only operate at around a third of their capacity, said Bulgarian captain Alexander Kamenov, whose ship, the Adora, is currently stuck at port.

With Germany relying more on coal, much of the needed supplies are transported from the Dutch ports of Amsterdam and Rotterdam, as well as Belgium’s Antwerp, by barge. The coal reserves at most power plant sites are currently only sufficient for about one week of full-load operation, according to Marc Schattenberg, senior economist at Deutsche Bank Research. Last year, the country imported nearly two thirds of its coal via the river.

Shipper DTG Deutsche Transport Genossenschaft eG said its vessels were currently operating at as low as 25% of capacity. “Customers now need to charter up to four ships to transport the same amount of goods as before,” said DTG manager Roberto Spranzi.

Freight rates from the mouth of the Rhine in the Netherlands to Basel in Switzerland reached 240.32 euros, equivalent to $248, a metric ton last week, more than doubling from €111.92 a month ago, according to Lars van Wageningen, manager of operations at commodity market-research firm Insights Global. Quotes a year ago were just €11.28 a metric ton.

Grain is now Shipping from Ukraine

Here’s an interesting paragraph that caught my eye.

Fewer ships are available, with demand rising both because of coal’s resurgence but also because many European ships are currently in the Black Sea region.”

Did Putin purposely allow Ukrainian grain shipments to begin to enhance the shipping problems of Germany’s industrial sector?

Regardless, there is going to be a big spillover across all of Europe. 

UK Average Electricity Cost Will Soar to $5,370 Per Year By 2023

Yesterday I noted UK Average Electricity Cost Will Soar to $5,370 Per Year By 2023.

The average household makes £31,400 but will spend £4,400 on electricity in 2023.

If accurate, that’s 14% of the entire after tax budget just for electricity. Britons will have to choose between heat and eat.

Global Outlook

Electricity costs are rapidly escalating in Europe, barge costs are up to $248 from €11.28 ($11.58), barge shipping may soon be impossible at ay cost, France is throttling nuclear power because of river cooling capacity.

Meanwhile, China’s property bubble is imploding.  

In the US, the housing boom is imploding thanks to rising mortgage rates. And finally, US  Industries Are Buckling Under Pressure of Surging Electricity Costs

Yet, delusional people believe the US will avoid a recession. 

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JMOD46
JMOD46
3 years ago
Maybe if the Germans had located their coal-fired power plants below Kaub they wouldn’t be as worried…
SHOfan
SHOfan
3 years ago
Confusing story. How can large ships travel in 15.7 inches of water?
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  SHOfan
Barges can have shallow drafts.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
My pub has shallow drafts. ;-(
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  SHOfan
The ships are really wide and flat. Think of them like big rafts.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
This is what Germany wants. Let ’em have it.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Apparently Putin controls the flow of water in the Rhine.
In the meantime, none of the 10 ships that have left Ukraine ports so far with grain have gone to Africa or hungry countries in the mid-East.
Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Webej
It’s a complex situation. The ships that have been able to leave so far are ships that were already loaded, with the cargo already sold, and few of those have wheat on board. Instead of wheat, mostly the ships contained corn, with some safflower pulp, and soy. The quality of the cargo is suspect because they have been on board a vessel for five months. As a result, the first ship, loaded with corn, was declined by Lebanon, and the corn is now on the way to Egypt instead (which, by the way, is in Africa). Much of the rest of the wheat and corn is being offloaded in Turkey (which, by the way, is in the middle east), from whence much will be shipped elsewhere, presumably some going to the Middle East and Africa. China is receiving some safflower pulp, and England, Ireland, Iran, and South Korea are all receiving some corn. Why? They were the purchasers are the cargo that was already on the boats. The good news is that even shipments to these locations has lowered world corn and wheat prices.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Mish…your thoughts on Poland and other EU countries not issuing visas to Russians.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
I don’t believe holding private citizens hostage is the right thing to do. Of course the US does it to Iran, Venezuela etc
Crenvy
Crenvy
3 years ago
Not a single rendition of this climate crisis caused drought (and there are many with eerily the same wording) refers to a historical record of droughts or floods in Germany.
Yeah, in 1904 when the climate “crisis” was nearly in full swing /s
Quite a bit of low water also in the 40s and 50s.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Crenvy
Watching BBC in the middle of the night Pacific time, it fun hearing the news that contradicts the day time propaganda..
They went live to their reporter standing on a rock bed, who called it bedrock, talk about how the Rhine was at historical lows since they started keeping records in 1954…
Then casually mentions “at least it’s not as bad, yet, as it was in 1718 when the Rhine dried up all the way to the coastline”!!!!
The way they spread their propaganda is say “since they started keeping records”!!!
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Crenvy
The water level hasn’t been this low in 4 years. 4 years. Almost half a decade.
Tedwardspharmd
Tedwardspharmd
3 years ago
If there was ever a time for serious investment in buildout of Nuclear Power Capacity worldwide, this is it. I don’t know the specifics of the “Inflation Reduction Act” – I recall there being $30 BN set aside for Nuclear, which seems like a low number. From what I can see, a single plant costs $6-9 BN. https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx
Germany is hurting….and it was all there own doing. US has issues, but nothing like the rest of the world.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Tedwardspharmd
The question is about lack of water. Nuclear power needs a lot of it, and also lot of real estate. Problem not solved for lack of simple solutions.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Nuclear does not need a lot of water. Nuclear uses water for cooling. You can use a river as a heat sink. Or you can use a retention pond large enough and reuse the water. That’s why the big cooling towers.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Tedwardspharmd
The US is not immune.
Yes. We need nuclear. But building a new facility takes years and the energy crunch is just starting to hit us now.
Timing the future is exceedingly difficult.
The entire world is in the middle of an energy transition to renewables and oil companies all over the world have been preparing for the future by reducing capex spending on oil and gas for the last decade.
But we have more demand for energy than expected, and less renewables than expected. And less oul and gas than we could have had if oil companies had invested more.
The result, as predicted by Realist here over two years ago, is an energy crunch that will put upward pressure on oil and gas prices for the rest of this decade.
Trying to “blame” someone for this situation is a waste of time. It is what it is. The important thing is to recognize the situation and look for the investment opportunities it provides.
Got oil stocks?
MIFE
MIFE
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
(Full disclosure – talking my book. I am generally conservatively invested but have a tilt towards value and energy.)
Crescent Point Energy is a small favourite for me to have as a small position to weight towards energy. P/E is under 4 and is falling. Huge free cash flows and clearing debt like crazy. Next step is special dividends to return to shareholders. That cash has to go somewhere.
With nat gas going crazy and no possible solution coming fuel switching to oil this winter is almost a given. If US stops pulling from SPR and starts refilling (like I think they should if used as intended – I am not US citizen though so no real interest here from me) then oil should go up significantly. Hard to see that much demand destruction imo.
Good luck to all.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  MIFE
I own Crescent Point as well. I now follow Eric Nuttall, who runs the largest energy fund in Canada. I tend to own everything he owns. That was a tip in this comment section from Eddie.
He has been pushing many of the small and mid cap Canadian producers to use their prodigious cash flow to pay down debt, buy back shares and increase dividends. His fund was up 190% last year.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Got companies building mini-reactors? NuScale Power maybe?
Crenvy
Crenvy
3 years ago
Reply to  Tedwardspharmd
So, your saying that building more nuke plants in Germany (heavy, heavy carbon footprint for construction and maintenance) will reduce drought *in* Germany … O…K …
Probably reduce floods too?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
OT but bot really. There is stuff growing 100 years ahead of schedule due to climate change. Hopefully that ice age is coming soon.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Many of the morons here keep saying that the climate models have overestimated the effects of global warming, when in fact they have “mostly” underestimated the effects.
Now, I know that some of the morons will now reply with stupid quotes from politicians and reporters who sensationalize what scientists actually say in order to get attention. And they are too stupid to know the difference.
Global warming and climate change are going to impact us all. I can’t change that. But I can try to take advantage of the investment opportunities that arise as a result.
Crenvy
Crenvy
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Actually, none of the dire predictions for climate change for over 80 years have come true. None.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Sources… he don’t need sources… he’s got feelings.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
The link is mostly meaningless. It just basically says rising C02 levels in of them themselves warm the earth and most climate models also predict this. No one disputes this. What’s questionable is the effects of this. Saying there will be more hurricanes, etc… is where the science has derailed.
Leave science to the scientists. Not to amateur investors.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
“Leave science to the scientists. Not to amateur investors.”
Agreed. Yet many here completely deny the science and the scientists and prefer to believe moronic conspiracy crap.
Like denying what the scientists at NASA are saying.
They are saying that climate models actually do a very good job of predicting the warming we are getting.
That’s good enough for me. Now, how do I make money from these scientific facts?
For the last two years I have made a lot of money in oil stocks. I expect them to continue to do well for several more years, but I am always on the lookout for the next big thing where I can get in early.
I now think the next big thing will be Hydrogen. Biden’s new Inflation Reduction Act will provide big subsidies for green hydrogen of $3/kg. This is going to make the US the world leader in this nascent industry. I am currently investigating this area and identifying the companies that stand to benefit. And I will be happy to share that info here. Though, of course, the morons here will reply with the usual garbage. Thank goodness I discovered the Ignore button so I don’t see so many moronic posts now.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
Okay. And why do you think I care about that?
Or are you trying to convince me that we should dirty the air?
What’s your point?
What is the investment idea?
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Trees growing farther north than before. Sounds like good news to me.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
More of deserts in North Africa are turning green..
According NASA the amount of green is spreading throughout the world, with these warming temps..
Which to me should be “GOOD”, more areas to grow food!!!
Yet the Man Made Global Warming crowd thinks is wrong, which brings to my mind, why do they support killing off more of the worlds population??
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
This bear market bull run might soon be over, but the next one will reach a higher low, the last point of distribution, because heavy rain
will soak the Rhine.
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
3 years ago
It does rain in Germany. When it rains, which it will, the problem is solved.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Bay-Brit
Oh my goodness. That’s brilliant. I can’t believe no one else thought of that.
Now: when will this rain come? How much will it be? And how much will the Rhine go up? And for how long? Because, all those things are “kind of important”.
On a side note: when will Lake Mead and Lake Powell fill up again? They are both below 30% capacity and have been dropping for years. Doesn’t it rain in the US?
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Lake Mead will never fill again as the population it serves is much too large for the amount of water it gets, regardless of droughts. It does rain in the US but interestingly not everywhere gets the same amount of rain. The weather forecast for Berlin is pretty wet next week. It’s always driest before the storm.

PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Bay-Brit
That is the problem. Too much water in some places and not enough in others.
As explained by the climate scientists, global warming means warmer air sucks more moisture out of the ground leading to drier conditions in places like the US south west. That warm wet air moves east and is now dumping record rainfall over and over again in place like Kansas.
And it is only going to get worse as the atmosphere continues to warm and suck even more water out of the US southwest.
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
You are aware that suns spot activity is seriously exceeding official predictions. The heat of the sun is not constant and it is hotter now as it is more active. A hotter sun is sufficient to explain a hotter earth. Occam’s razor.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
No, it’s you.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Too much water in some places and not enough in others.
This has always been the quintessential problem in economics as well:
Too much money in some place, not enough in others.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
This has been happening since humans have appeared on the earth, and I’m betting it happened before humans appeared..
So it’s called Cycles..
Which most of the Global Gov’ts and Environmental terrorist don’t believe in… Its humans causing the problem according to their “BELIEFS”!!!
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
I wrote commentary a while ago that we would soon be reaching the “rationing” scenario and we get closer and closer to that day as problems and crisis keep piling up. There are still massive labor shortages and it isn’t just the US. Here’s an article from Greece which mentions marine shipping as well. Germany has labor issues as well.
In the US, I predict a critical labor shortage leading to big goods and services shortages around late 2025 based on the way demographics are going. Whichever political party is in power 2024 will get the blame for the mess that comes after.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
I think this all a bit overdone. There’s been no shortage of labor anywhere to the point of things stopping completely. Even during Covid it didn’t happen. Living near a large airport matters. Living near a larger city matters.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
You should spend some time on the antiwork reddit sub forums. It’s not just boomers retiring, it’s a whole new paradigm with young people.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Made possible by stimulus checks.
Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Yeah, around here we call the youngsters that just leach wooks
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Not that I disagree wit them, but, They’ll get tired of living in vans eventuality.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Yeah. Recall the young kids in the back-to-nature leave-the-corporate-world of the late 1960’s? They grew up in the 80’s and 90’s and built the world everyone is now complaining about.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Trump put a spell on the Rhine. A decade after 2016 low SPX might make a rd trip to close Trump election
gap Oct 31/ Nov 7 2016. That will form a 5:0 wave with 2009 low. Got it ?
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
I read an article on Yahoo News that quotes a person working in the LNG export business. This person said there’s as much as $200M in profit right now on every shipment of LNG to Europe. The article quoted the person as saying, “This is insane.”
Yes, it is indeed. But, there’s a lot of insane things going on right now, many of which are creating enormous wealth for the top 5% or so.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
Did you know that “you” are allowed to get rich as well? You can participate by buying stocks in energy companies that are creating enormous cash flows and profits.
Or you could hide in fear in your basement and complain about all the insane things going on right now. Which is what many here do. You don’t have to be one of them. Take advantage of the opportunities that you are talking about.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
The black man is keeping him down.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
German railroads just announced that it plans to give the transportation of materials and equipment essential for energy production priority on the country’s rail networks over passenger services and other industrial requirements should water levels on the Rhine fall further.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Jeez ! Another setback for idiotic masochist Germany, armtwisted and blackmailed, as they are, by the US of A ! Almost wrote ‘the fckn US of A’ , restrained myself in the very last second though ….thank gowd …
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Lol! So the US is now shrinking European rivers? Good one.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
It’s a secret DARPA program.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Why don t you analyse my comment before posting nonsense ….’another setback’… on top of US’ caused ones, that is ….and coal transport HAS increased dramatically, since YOUR hypocrital Criminal Cowards Nation invaded Ukraine indirectly ….Criminal Coward Nation ….fck ! Democratic state channel, CNN, should change its name : CCN !
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
The US invaded Ukraine. Wow. This just keeps getting crazier. Are you high?
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
….are you ignorant ?
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Nope. And I am tired of wasting time with you. I will now hit the Ignore button so I never have to see another one of your stupid posts again.
Strange. Mish cancelled Realist, who provided all kinds of great advice, yet he lets you post all this sh*t. I don’t get it. But hey, its not my blog. Mish can do what he wants.
Oh well. At least I won’t have to see your garbage posts any longer.
Bye Brussels.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
bye Zardoz , realist etc …
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Where’s the ignore button on this forum?
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Click on the poster’s name.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Ah. Thankx. Never tried that
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Comrade Yoda suffering with Belgian Potato Syndrome. Russian get sick if they eat strange potato too much. Cause hallucinations and delusion of adequacy
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
It is a US installed regime that doesn’t lift a finger without consultation
Kiev has been shelling Donetsk since 2014, random civilian targets … war crimes & genocide (bolstered by official and media comments)
The US keeps the regime from bankruptcy
The US has been training 5-6 batallions/year since 2015 to NATO interoperability standards
The US was building military/Nato facilities all over, including along the Black Sea
The US was practicing storming the beaches during Sea Breeze exercises
NATO & their armies are doing exercises with the Ukr Armed Forces in Ukraine
The US has and is supplying their gear and ammunition
The US supplies intelligence on a minute by minute basis
US military are actually making strategic & tactical decisions for the UAF (as per many on the ground journalists)
NATO figures and US reps have been calling this “our war”
So, it is clearly a war between Russia and US (with its NATO vassals).
The US wanted the war and will continue it to the last Ukrainian, before they toss the country in the trash: Hell they even sent Kamala Harris to Poland to read from her teleprompter that Ukraine would become part of Nato, tantamount to a declaration of war.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Putin did it.
Stop making $hit up. You managed to write it anyway.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Your restraint is admirable. Colerful, but always sharp and to the point.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Yes, when you’re a baby, it’s always dad’s fault. LOL
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Fewer ships are available, with demand rising both because of coal’s resurgence but also because many European ships are currently in the Black Sea region.” WSJ
Black Sea container traffic is down over 35% this year so I wonder how they got that conclusion.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Wheat and coal don’t travel by container ships, they use bulk carriers. But I don’t think coal and wheat use the same ships, so the overall question remains, why is wheat shipping in the Black Sea affecting coal in Europe?
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
That part doesn’t make sense since to me. Bulk traffic is down as well in the Black Sea since there is less stuff to ship compared to before. Doesn’t add up.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
Not only that. River barges would break in two at the first sea swell.
River barges might be used on the Danube, which connects to the Rhine, but the Rhine-Main-Danube canal somewhat restrict which boats can actually cross the water shed. There remains the holds … they don’t use the same holds for grain, gravel, sand, oil, coal, etc.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Here is my post from 2 days ago; though it was related to electricity:
Lots of problems with electricity generation.
Electricity production is being impacted by less hydro-electric as rivers and reservoirs dry up (like Lake Powell and Mead).
France’s nuclear system is running at drastically reduced rates due to shrinking and warming rivers.
Germany’s barges can’t deliver coal on shrunken rivers.
China’s coal mines keep being flooded by unprecedented rainfall the last few years.
Not enough renewables being built to satisfy growing demand.
Etc
So as we continue to demand more electricity we are relying more on natgas to make up the difference.
Nothing I can do about it except recognize the problem and invest accordingly.
Two good natgas stocks: DiamondBack Energy and Tourmaline.
TOU paid a special dividend Aug 12. FANG on Aug 23.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Tourmaline has a year low/high of 29.25 – 80.67. Currently at $76.46, you are advising to buy close to an absolute peak in a volatile market. LMAO. I’ve always made money with buy low, sell high. It seems intuitive?
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Why would you share your investment ‘secrets’ with us …..again ? ….I wonder ….Philanthropy ?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Easy to see why he is asking for investment advice. Take a look at the Tourmaline price chart: TOU.TO
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
I am wealthy today because of the investment recommendations of Realist and Eddie on this blog. They are no longer here (and I miss them dearly), so I figured I would do my part to carry on their philanthropic legacy. Its as simple as that.
In addition, I keep hoping to find some other new investment ideas in the comments section. Unfortunately, the only other person making investment recommendations is MPO45. A shout out to him!
Everyone else appears to be useless cranky old men who complain about the government full time and wouldn’t know an investment opportunity if it fell in their lap.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
….Gonna share a fn secret with you , don t tell anyone though ….watch fn CNBC ! Btw, ‘Realist’ is still among us , in case you didn t know his new name is Zardoz ….or is it PapaDave ….by any chance ?
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
I am everyone! I am your babooshka and Vladimir Putin and the man who sell you potato that make you act crazy! I am all around you comrade!
William Janes
William Janes
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Prove it!
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  William Janes
Hi cranky. I rest my case.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Will pickup shares of ITT. XYL is also a big player but a bit overvalued right now.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Nice. Thanks.
William Janes
William Janes
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
You are a little late to the game: we are well into the second quarter. Who knows maybe you are a tout for some hedge fund?
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  William Janes
What do you mean late to the game? I am an investor and I invest in instruments for the LONG term. I don’t work for a hedge fund but if I did so what? Feel free to click IGNORE on my handle so you don’t see my comments anymore. Problem solved.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  William Janes
Late! Lol! I “was” a few months late when I started following Realist and Eddie in the comment section on this blog about 2 years ago. Following their recommendations has made me wealthy. I am not a hedge fund manager. I am just a simple investor.
After they disappeared, I decided to follow their lead and began to comment about the decade long opportunity in oil and gas stocks. That was many months ago. Feel free to look back through my comments and see how long I have been making recommendations. If I was a hedge fund manager, I would be promoting my fund.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I am new here, but curious. Did Realist and Eddie constantly complain about not getting enough investment opportunity advice as you constantly do PapaDave?
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
3 years ago
Necessity is the mother of invention. Germany and Switzerland need to build smaller ships with shallower drafts. Alternatively they could transport coal over land. Maybe Greek ship builders could work off some of their nation’s debt. This is a business opportunity.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
Or they could put wheels on em.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
Well said. Opportunities arise when problems appear. The key is to find the right investment opportunity. I like natgas stocks here.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Bah… it’s just weather!
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Correct, just weather, not religion.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
3 years ago
Yes, we will avoid a recession.
But we will not avoid a depression (or worse).

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